Director's Cut Horror Project - Dualism

maddeem · Apr 15, 2012

Skyrim has awesome graphics. Warcraft Engine doesn't.

No, it all depends on the model, and the model texture. Warcraft 3 can hold skyrim models and textures. The only thing warcraft 3 can't do is duplicated skyrim's reflections, shadows and lighting.

Hashjie · Apr 15, 2012

maddeem said:
Warcraft 3 can hold skyrim models and textures.

I highly doubt that. Way to many polygons for wc3 to handle...
Not to mention the file size.

Drunken_Jackal · Apr 15, 2012

@maddeem
Im refering to the BUILT-IN Models/Textures.

Fingolfin · Apr 15, 2012

maddeem said:
No, it all depends on the model, and the model texture. Warcraft 3 can hold skyrim models and textures. The only thing warcraft 3 can't do is duplicated skyrim's reflections, shadows and lighting.

Problem is that the lighting does about 99% of the atmosphere in a game.

Jazztastic · Apr 15, 2012

Drunken_Jackal said:
@maddeem
Im refering to the BUILT-IN Models/Textures.

That's odd, you said Warcraft Engine.

Sverkerman · Apr 18, 2012

Hi everyone I'm home again! ;D

Foronisus · Apr 18, 2012

nice to hear that

Drunken_Jackal · Apr 18, 2012

Jazztastic said:
That's odd, you said Warcraft Engine.

Most of the times I just type like a mindless ape.
So expect mistakes.

xorkatoss · Apr 19, 2012

wow i made a joke that this was like Skyrim and everybody took it seriously xD

i thought it was like Skyrim bcz of these pictures and the first person view

and btw the quality of the models might not be like the one Skyrim has but cmon look at them!!
they are so damn good for a wc3 map...

sonofjay · Apr 19, 2012

xorkatoss said:
wow i made a joke that this was like Skyrim and everybody took it seriously xD

i thought it was like Skyrim bcz of these pictures and the first person view
and btw the quality of the models might not be like the one Skyrim has but cmon look at them!!
they are so damn good for a wc3 map...

Most of us know those models, many of us have those models, but the great thing is Sverker made used of those model, and if Dualism become a successful map then all of the hard work that Born2Modificate given to those models will not be wasted. I hope B2M see this project.

Sverkerman · Apr 20, 2012

New update video uploaded to my youtube channel.

Sverkerman · Apr 20, 2012

Look what I did today!

sonofjay · Apr 20, 2012

Haha I lol'd on that one you deserved a rep for that :psmile:

Sverkerman · Apr 22, 2012

I am currently finishing the last few houses interior. Once that is done I am starting the coding which will take me around 1-2 weeks.

Then the Beta of Dualism will be released.

Also, I am looking for people which can help spread the word about dualism on some major sites such as reddit or 4chan when Beta is released.

Drunken_Jackal · Apr 22, 2012

You forgot one site.
9GAG.

Sverkerman · Apr 22, 2012

Sverkerman said:
such as

If you wanted me to state ALL sites in this thread another 10 more pages of comments would be added =3

Drunken_Jackal · Apr 22, 2012

Let go

Didn't see it, lol.

Sverkerman · Apr 24, 2012

Half of the interior done!

I have 5 houses left to design before starting to program Dualism.

EDIT: Oh and I need more Beta testers! Check the thread front page for info.

Hashjie · Apr 25, 2012

Sverkerman said:
Half of the interior done!

I have 5 houses left to design before starting to program Dualism.

EDIT: Oh and I need more Beta testers! Check the thread front page for info.

Could you give an indication on how far your project is from completion?

...% scripts
...% terrain
...% sounds
etc?

Sverkerman · Apr 25, 2012

100% sounds
38% terrain (out of whole map) / 97% out of Beta
100% main systems

Then I got all the triggers to do which are:
interractable objects, reading system, voice acting for all texts, items, candle locations (thats a pain to trigger correctly), doors, scare sounds, monster spawns, traps, and loads of other small things. However, all of these are easy and very very fun to make ;D

So at the moment all terraining stuff, UI stuff and Main Systems are pretty much done.

sonofjay · Apr 25, 2012

So we are getting near to beta test, you should find more people to become a beta-tester if you really want 15 testers

Sverkerman · Apr 25, 2012

Yeah I'm doing my best to find them. I bet there are several people checking this thread that would like to test beta and have the resourses needed to do so just that they are not PM'ing me ;P

If you want to Beta test PM me! Don't be afraid I wont bite ^^

xorkatoss · Apr 29, 2012

100% sounds
38% terrain (out of whole map) / 97% out of Beta
100% main systems

ahh good, im glad this map is getting close to beta

candle locations (thats a pain to trigger correctly)

i don't get it...trigger it? why don't you just use Alt+PageUp/PageDown?

Sverkerman · Apr 29, 2012

This is the way I do the candles:
1: Place candle doodad.
2: Candle's fire doesn't show because of the night models script. I place a unit at the same location as the candle for a clicking event, a light source in form of a unit for hide/show purposes and lastly the fire which also needs to be a unit so ALT+PageUP/PageDown doesn't work there, the Z height needs to be set separatly.
3: Make a init trigger for hiding the Fire unit and the Lightning unit.
4: Make a trigger for when the selection unit located at the same location as the candle doodad is selected, the candle lights up (The fire unit and the lightning unit are being shown with the hide/show unit action)
5: You got yourself one of the ~90 candles the BETA will have.

Time per candle - 15 min.

Kithraya · Apr 30, 2012

Sverkerman said:
2: Candle's fire doesn't show because of the night models script.

Open candle model with War3 Model Edior and go to node manager and open proper particle of fire. Then tick "Unshaded" in Flags section. Now fire will be displayed with enabled DNM script.

Sverkerman · Apr 30, 2012

Dear Goris.

I have unfortunately already come to the same conclusion. Thankfully, I was able to work around this problem and come up with a fitting solution. I actually like the fact that candles doesn't show their fire as a model while using the NightModels script. This enables me as a map creator to further customize Dualism, giving players the possibility to light candles up instead of having them being lit all the time.

I sincerely thank you for taking your time and posting on my thread in order to help me success with Dualism.

Drunken_Jackal · Apr 30, 2012

^ Dont be a rude person. Somebody is trying to help. At least try to say it properly.

Sverkerman · Apr 30, 2012

@Drunken Jackal
Rude? In which mannor am I being rude? It's rather you who is being rude for calling me rude ;/

Oh well, I edited my post to fit your standards <3

Kithraya · Apr 30, 2012

:O

I will refer to the post before your edition.

No, no no... I wouldn't dare to give any suggestions for Director's Cut project.
You say that something is not working/possible. I am saying that it is not a truth and giving the solution (yeah, really sorry about that). This is simple.

maddeem · May 1, 2012

Goris said:
:O

I will refer to the post before your edition.

No, no no... I wouldn't dare to give any suggestions for Director's Cut project.
You say that something is not working/possible. I am saying that it is not a truth and giving the solution (yeah, really sorry about that). This is simple.

I really must agree, lightning systems of any sort are simple in nature.

Drunken_Jackal · May 1, 2012

@Sverkerman

You still edited it to make me look stupid.
Anywho, good luck with the systems

maddeem · May 1, 2012

Lets keep our cool guys, wouldn't want a moderator to come sniffing around...

Sverkerman · May 1, 2012

@Goris
You are 100% right, you stated that something which I stated did not work, could indeed work. However, stating such a fact wont help the project since I already got a solution for that. Now, you couldn't possibly know this unless you follow every single part of Dualism.

@Drunken Jackal
I dislike when people comment on how I respond to people. This is a development thread not a "Learn-how-to-respond-and-be-a-nice-person" Thread. I am human like anyone else, sometimes I'm in a bad mood for personal reasons thus making me respond to people in a less pleasing way. However, I do not feel like I was rude towards Goris. I simply stated a fact.

UPDATE

Dualism progress has been slow this week. I got 2 houses left to do.

I believe that the Beta will be out in 2-3 weeks depending on how much free time I got, I'll try and set a release date pretty soon.

satoshikid · May 2, 2012

This project has caught my attention xD It looks very nice so far~

I hope you do very well~

Sverkerman · May 2, 2012

Thank you satoshikid, I am actually just about to start a terraining session right now before breakfast. Hopefully I will pull trough with the 3 remaining houses today, that would be a great accomplishment.

satoshikid · May 2, 2012

Well, then I wish you good luck in accomplishing that feat

Sverkerman · May 3, 2012

I need more beta testers! Beta is getting closer!

xorkatoss · May 3, 2012

Sverkerman said:
I need more beta testers! Beta is getting closer!

not trying to be smart or anything but aren't 7 testers enough?(since it's just beta)
also there is smth i was wondering...is this map MP or SP?

If this map is MP then it will be good for all the testers to "get together" and play it on Garena or b.net

PROXY · May 3, 2012

Goris said:
:O

I will refer to the post before your edition.

No, no no... I wouldn't dare to give any suggestions for Director's Cut project.
You say that something is not working/possible. I am saying that it is not a truth and giving the solution (yeah, really sorry about that). This is simple.

Still Sverkerman, the solution that Goris has give you takes about... 30 seconds. Your's takes 15 minutes. I think you see the difference? And now don't come with the: "I used to do it like this, so I'll continues it this way", that's just ignorant.

Chaosy · May 3, 2012

i would love to test dualism out in beta but i dont really got knowage in this type of game so i wont suit. good job so far anyway

Sverkerman · May 3, 2012

@xorkatoss
Dualism is single player obviously, you can't host maps with a filesize bigger than ~8 MB and Dualism is currently 90 MB big. I will provide a hidden download link for all beta testers.

@PROXY
Would a "I'm a ignorant kid, deal with it" cut the deal? ;P

@Chaosy
Umm... This is a new type of game I don't think that anybody got knowledge about it. Feel free to apply if you wish to play beta.

At the moment I got 10 Beta Testers (Edited main post)

Oh and...

ALL DUALISM TERRAINING IS NOW DONE!

ERYFKRAD · May 4, 2012

Why, congratulations, boss.

xorkatoss · May 4, 2012

Sverkerman said:
@xorkatoss
Dualism is single player obviously, you can't host maps with a filesize bigger than ~8 MB and Dualism is currently 90 MB big. I will provide a hidden download link for all beta testers.

ok good, i prefer SP maps and i can't w8 for beta test!!
ill start testing the map as soon as the dl link is provided

EDIT:
i noticed a little spelling mistake you did in the first page

Sverkerman · May 4, 2012

@xorkatoss
+rep to you! Thanks!

Also a quick update:
I've finally started the programming of Dualism and progress is fast as hell! I love the way this is turning out, this is just the kind of game I wanted to create!

Overall progress with triggers ~14%

Issues I am currently having:
Can I hide that ugly armor icon somehow? (the one located to the right of the selected unit's portrait)
Grey... the inventory slots are ugly. Contacting you about this now.

Kithraya · May 4, 2012

Sverkerman said:
Can I hide that ugly armor icon somehow? (the one located to the right of the selected unit's portrait)
Grey... the inventory slots are ugly. Contacting you about this now.

Replace icon of proper armor type in Game Interface.
If you want to hide it, I propose to use this transparent texture: View attachment non.blp
Same about inventory slots. Just replace path with your own imported icon/skin path.

Sverkerman · May 4, 2012

@Goris
Thanks a lot, I managed to fix the Armor type.

Inventory slots tho, is there any specific path which needs to be overwritten? I can't seem to remember how to change that even tho I did it with Grey's work just a while ago.

Kithraya · May 4, 2012

I am guessing that you mean replacing the whole inventory console texture. Unfortunately, inventory slots, aren't just single 64x64 icons.
(Except for the None version) Therefore, they are included in one of 4 main console textures. -> HumanUITile03.

Code:

UI\Console\Human\HumanUITile03

Anyway, I don't know whether it will be useful, but:

Code:

UI\Console\Human\HumanUITile-InventoryCover.blp

Sverkerman · May 4, 2012

Alright, this is a editing job for Grey in that case. Thanks for being so helpfull Goris. Feel free to apply for beta, maybe I can teach you something you don't already know.

yeohxin · May 4, 2012

Can I sign up for beta test?

Sverkerman · May 5, 2012

@yeohxin
Yes of course! Check the main post and reply to me with a PM about which of the tasks you will be able to complete.

Update:
I contacted Grey and he has been working his butt off to fix the errors I've pointed out, a loading screen, a preview screen and about 18 icons. Triggering progress is still very fast! I will be able to set a release date shortly!

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