Dark Soldier

[Moderator]

Misha 10th Dec 2013

Moderator's Review:

That is one groovy model

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Looks awesome, great usage of textures & cool animations!

 

[Heinvers]

Looks great

Soo you finally finished it! Great usage of textures!

 

[Roland]

I wish the second version is the Holy soldier :< But Looooks awesome and Jaw dropping!

 

[Tal'Rarity]

8/5 - GJ

Make a Light Soldier too. =P

 

[Roland]

8/5 - gj

make a light soldier too. =p

I AGREE WITH THIS! Yay!

 

[TheWhiteWolf]

Finally done :3 Sry mate, I 'must spread some reputation again before...' so no rep for now

 

[-Grendel]

his corpse appears during stand-victory

 

[Marshmalo]

wow this is such an amazing looking model, you done a really good job, so realistic and only 230 for such a nice model. When I saw it i thought it would be much bigger in file size.

Actually I just realized if I don;t use the portrait file its only 120 kb! Defo need to use this in one of my maps some where! I love good quality, low file size models.

 

[Freddyk]

his corpse appears during stand-victory

Thank you for your feedback, i've fixed it.
I also changed the spell "light" effect to purple for more "dark" feeling.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

One of the best. 5/5.

 

[knight820]

Now this what I called ''Amazing''!!
And... yeah very DARK out there.

 

[paladinjst]

finally it's come out ! nice ! wish u do more human heroes like this
5/5

 

[NourmeusXL]

its out!!!

 

[InfernalTater]

This is amazing. It is nice to see such a good-looking unit using a polearm. Most polearm units are just poor edits of the felguard.

You did a great job being careful with the cloth. Most people who add robes to units end up having lots of clipping. On yours, there is only a tiny bit of clipping near the waist during some animations.

Really, though, this unit looks freakin' awesome. 5/5.

 

[UgoUgo]

This is very good, but I tend to try hard finding the flaws in the animations!

This is what I noticed

• In Attack - 1 and Attack - 2, the weapon and the chest should not stop moving at the same time when the weapon was swung. (Just try it in real life, swing your arms and try to stop it immediately. You will notice your body stops at slower rate)
• In Attack - 3, the weapon slides a lot.
• In Stand Channel and Stand Victory, the model slides. (The model also slides in other anims, but it is not that noticeable)
• There's geoset clipping in Attack - 2 (A black fragment appears on his right shoulder)
• Another geoset clipping in Stand Channel (His right arm intersects the shoulder when lifted)
• The cloth in the middle (loincloth?) looks a little stiff if you ask me. (Animating a cloth can get very tedious, so I understand if you refuse/lazy to animate/tweak it)

Still, this is a very good model. The belt looks very nice!

 

[Vinz]

Amazing! Vote for DC.
E: And please make a screenshot icon!
E2: And can you make a version without the upper body's clothing(only armor left, and leave face cover)? Imo it looks better, because he looks like wearing a jacket otherwise. Thanks in advance.

 

[InfernalTater]

In Attack - 1 and Attack - 2, the weapon and the chest should not stop moving at the same time when the weapon was swung. (Just try it in real life, swing your arms and try to stop it immediately. You will notice your body stops at slower rate)

Not true. I just picked up the nearest long pole and swung it exactly the same way. My hand closer to the base and my body stopped at the same time, and my hand further down the pole stopped last, just like this unit. You might swing differently, but that doesn't mean everyone does.

In Attack - 3, the weapon slides a lot.

The handle sliding through your hands is an important part of taking advantage of the handle for longer range. In a normal stance, you would hold a polearm or spear in the middle, and when thrusting, you would want it to slide forwards through your hands for maximum range.

In real life you could accomplish this by first tightly gripping and thrusting forwards, then lessening your grip, allowing the spear to continue moving through it with its original velocity, and then tightening your grip as it reaches its maximum range. You would then return your hands to the middle of the spear by either pulling one hand over the other like rope, or by lowering the hand in the back and letting gravity pull the weapon back to you as this model does.

The rest of your points were valid, though.

The cloth in the middle (loincloth?) looks a little stiff if you ask me.

 

[UgoUgo]

Not true. I just picked up the nearest long pole and swung it exactly the same way. My hand closer to the base and my body stopped at the same time, and my hand further down the pole stopped last, just like this unit. You might swing differently, but that doesn't mean everyone does.

How the heck you swing your arms and then stop immediately without having your body to vibrate even in the least? I tried different varieties of the movement and my body still experiences the momentum?

Edit: Alright after another few tries I managed to perform the same action. And I can tell that it wastes more energy and is very inefficient.

Edit 2: What I meant was the chest should be moving first rather than the arms to produce an energy transfer. My mistake due to difficulty to explain actions into words.

You would then return your hands to the middle of the spear by either pulling one hand over the other like rope, or by lowering the hand in the back and letting gravity pull the weapon back to you as this model does.

Take a look at the animation again. The spear does not retract normally.

 

[Kam]

I appreciate that you included a unit version.

Your work is all original so far.

 

[Councilor]

Looks built off of demon version of demon hunter? Nice job.

 

[Edge45]

Another model made by Freddyk with custom anims
radicoolll 5/5

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Awesome, need icon

 

[Cakedog345]

Keep doing such awesome work!

 

[CreatorD3292]

There is a problem. Team brown color + black is a little similar. in game u hardly tell the different

 

[InfernalTater]

There is a problem. Team brown color + black is a little similar. in game u hardly tell the different

That's always been a problem for some units. Still, you can generally tell who's attacking anyway because surely they have some other units that you can see the color on more easily. And then of course there's always their name or the minimap in case of emergency.

 

[Freddyk]

There is a problem. Team brown color + black is a little similar. in game u hardly tell the different

I tried to find a solution that gives good results for all colors, while avoiding flashy results. I think the result is fine, brown has always been an almost neutral color anyway.

 

[CreatorD3292]

wow. them look like power ranger :V. kidding. good job.

 

[Vinz]

The back view is pretty weird since he looks like a banana. Please make the armor more visible.

 

[InfernalTater]

I tried to find a solution that gives good results for all colors, while avoiding flashy results. I think the result is fine, brown has always been an almost neutral color anyway.

I'm colorblind, so half of them look the same to me anyway.

The back view is pretty weird since he looks like a banana. Please make the armor more visible.

Peanut butter jelly time!

 

[The Wanderer]

this is nasty! 5/5.

 

[Mike]

Great one!

 

[Melth]

This is EXACTLY what I was hoping to find when I started looking around for a good model with a spear or polearm. Thank you very much for this excellent model.

If you're still working on this, I think a black-cloaked version could be very cool as well.

By the way, are there any icons you recommend to go along with this? I've been using Medivh since the cloak color matched in my case, but of course it's not a perfect fit.

 

[Vinz]

If you're still working on this, I think a black-cloaked version could be very cool as well.

You can, of course, meddle with the team color.

 

[Freddyk]

You can achieve almost black color by tinting the geoset with geoset anim. Some blueish color like (R:100,G:150,B:200) works quite well.

For icon, Acolyte or Cloak of Flames might fit.

 

[Melth]

This is a dumb question which shows I know nothing about modeling, but what do you mean by "tinting the geoset with geoset anim?"

 

[Freddyk]

This is a dumb question which shows I know nothing about modeling, but what do you mean by "tinting the geoset with geoset anim?"

Well it's about editing the model in Magos' War3 model editor...
You probably know how to tint a whole unit in World editor? Geoset anims allow you to tint just a part of a unit (called "geoset") in Model editor.

Here are a few hints if you want to do it:
- open the model in War3 model editor
- menu Windows > geoset manager
- Ctrl+click on the cape > corresponding geoset gets highlighted > remember its name
- menu Windows > geoset anim manager
- right-click > create new
- select the geoset ID and the color, check the box "use color"
- you're done!

Maybe there are tutorials for this but i don't know them.
Experiment!

 

[plakkoek]

i should say that the colors can be updated cuz only purple make it look good further of that its a good model though 4/5

 

[Aggrius]

You have no idea how much I appreciate that you've supplied the proper values for the editor AND a no-glow version. You're saving anyone who wants to use this model a lot of work! Good-looking, good usage of textures, some slightly awkward looking moments in the Attack 2, Stand 1 and Stand 2 animations, but hardly noticeable in-game I'm sure.
+rep for you

 

[McQvaBlood]

I really like this model, but Attack - 2 is subpar compared to the rest. If you could rework or just completely remove that, I would be forever grateful.

 

[Revan014]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!!!!!!!

 

[emperor_d3st]

This is really hot.

 

[Warseeker]

Unique Model but where is his portrait??

 

[RagnarokBazil]

Gives a FF V Gilgamesh feel

 

[Medieval]

Thanks a lot!!

 

[Hive_Parasite]

Holy mother of god,this model is awesome.Where do I vote to put this on DC?

Edit:Could you please add a spin effect to go with a thunder clap based spell I created for this?

 

[Rondstat]

This is an incredible model!

I was wondering if I could get your permission to do a couple of very minor edits (changing the face and chopping the blade off of the polearm). I'm working on a campaign set in the 2nd War, and this could make for one badass Teron Gorefiend!

 

[Archian]

Great model! Loving the animations.

I love that you provide a guide for object editor values! If only more people would do that It's just very nice addtion to a resource submission. It's like a "how to use properly".

 

[Medieval]

I used this badass model to rplace Death Knight, thanks a lot!