Dark Kael W.I.P.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Concept Art


Dark Kael
3 Orbs floating around him=Black with green flame?
Hair= Silver? blonde?
Eyes=Glowing Green, Glowing white, Glowing Dark?
Cape= Black?
Leg Armor= Same color maybe black instead of red?
Chest Armor= grey metal-like?
Sword= Blue? with Green and black flames?

Skin So Far

Dark Kael Rendered in Magos (Color V 1.0)

 

[Horror.Man]

Sephiroth_VII, Your work is good, a little rough on the edges, but everything seems to be proportionate.

Something I noticed was that it's a little messy. Perhaps you were going for a more original feel with the drawing, but you can also use Paint or even expensive programs to touch and remove unwanted scratches or pencil marks.

Promise me you'll keep updating this, fixing these minute details. It'd be interesting to one day see the final piece.

 

[Kimbo]

Nice, i like the armour, although I thought you were requesting at first.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

I need color suggestions! O and Horror man the reason my drawings are messy is because i am left handed :O

 

[Ratherion]

Dark Kael should be something like.... your sig, lots of black with red highlights, then with some more... dusty steel for the armor, that would be nice.

 

[Horror.Man]

Sorry Sephiroth, I wasn't aware you're left-handed. Still, good though.

 

[THE_END]

Hmmm
I'm assuming you may need a..skinner for this?

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

No I do not need a skinner for this. I need help tho..I've never done this before. Anyway Uploaded new stuff. I think the skin looks good, and i even made his eye glow light blueish by adding alpha and cutting hole in eye socket and overlapping face over crystal thingy. But problem now is it won't fit on a 256x256 and 512x512 is to big!

 

[THE_END]

Hmm..
Condense the model's skin
If the thing your showing above is the skin file then that is just WAYY too big

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Does it HAVE to be 256x256? Can't It be like 356x356 I don't know if scaling down everything will make it screwd up or not but I'll try it.

 

[Kimbo]

...

Why didnt you just use ingame textures?

BTW, textures HAVE TO be in the dimensions of 64,128,256,512,1024 etc

 

[donut3.5]

Powers of 2 ftw.
I was thinking a purple and black combo for him, sorta like undead arthas +cape +orbs and stuff.
--donut3.5--

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Well for me it would be hard to make this with in-game textures. So I thought I'd just make one. It has pieces from about 11 pics.

 

[Horn]

the reason my drawings are messy is because i am left handed

Lamest excuse ever.

 

[Eleandor]

Actually it's not. It's quite hard to draw with a pencil on paper without making streaks all over the paper because you constantly rush over your paper with your left hand.

That's one of the worst UVmaps I've seen by the way, it doesn't even use 50% of the space :s. Judging by the materials you're using, you might want to use ingame textures. the sword looks like Frostmourne, the armor looks like a blood elven armor, the runes are litterally the wc3 ones, etc.

 

[SuPa-]

every texture he has up there is from wc3
So he might as well use in-game textures, since they're all in-game, and CnPing them on to a canvas just increases the file size

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Hell yea! Its beautiful.*tear in eye*
Managed to squish all that stuff into a 256x256 and I believe there is NO wasted space. Now all all have to do is color manipulations and I'll have a Dark Kael skin.

 

[Dionesiist]

Let's see how you pull of the model now

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Updated first post with the Model Screenies. Still have to change skin a bit and then Unwrap it on the model.

Some of the things from my original concept art were done differently in the model. I decided not to cover up his mouth with the cloak(or cape whatever you want to call it) The Sword in the model is much fatter too, but I think it looks better than the original concept.

Constructive Critisism?

 

[Elenai]

what program do you use to make this model Sephiroth *please say its gmax*.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Yes it is Gmax but I Imported the Kael model into it and then did my changes. The Big problem with Gmax is you can't import somthing and have all the animations working. I don't know if theres a program out there that can do this for Gmax, at least not that im aware of. So I DLed Milkshape because its supposed to be good at animating.

Animating this will be very hard since the only thing I ever animated was a box with a screwd up death animation. So if anyone wants to do it, PLZ be my guest and PM me.

For his death animation I'd like him to neal down on one knee with both hands on the sword, with the sword sticking straight up and down. Then after that dissapate.

 

[THE_END]

Looks good
Glad to see you slimmed down that skin
What colors you thinking of mainly making it?
I would go with that dark red, black, and some silver like in your sig

 

[Ratherion]

Dark Kael should be something like.... your sig, lots of black with red highlights, then with some more... dusty steel for the armor, that would be nice.

It seems we agree....

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Posted 3 Pics of The model, UVW unwraped using skin color V1.0. I'll alter the colors and probably have about 4 different ones.
For those of you who are to lazy to go to the first post, Heres a Pic!

I made the Sword Smaller and thinner. Because before it didn't look like he was capable of carrying the massive sword.

If you Find anything you dislike at all Plz tell me! So I can fix it. Do these colors go well together?^

 

[Ratherion]

Very nice!

Work on the shoulder texture a bit and add some depth to the colors and it will be exellent

 

[THE_END]

Yea now you just need to revamp parts of the skin
Then this thing will be sexy

 

[Deleted member 126647]

UV on the shoulders and chest are dodgy.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

UV on the shoulders and chest are dodgy.
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Ok I understand that the shoulder pad is too plain but the chest? Can you explain a bit more in depth? The chest armor plate looks fine to me. It just randomly appeared on there when I was doing the UV wrap and I then I said Damn that looks good! So instead of making him have the red chest plate from the Skin I left it that way.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I meant the UV Wrapping itself, for the model. The shoulder textures look extremely stretched and awkward, same goes for the chest.

 

[Kimbo]

Colours are bad I think.
Black (grey), red, green and yellow...horrible.. like a vege pizza.

And yes, the unwrap is VERY messy, dont stretch it.

The way the uv and colours are layed out makes him look like his chunky, fat or bulging.

Fix those issues and im sure it would be nicer. by alot.

 

[Massive_attack]

he is going to re-texture the red/blood-elven parts i think.

Oh and yess that shoulder looks like crap.

Also: perhaps you should consider changing hair colour.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

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I can't think of a color that would go good for the glove. Tried to fix shoulder best I could. If I have to redo the whole UV map that would be HORRIBLE. I'm no expert at this. I tested it in game and the orbs where too small so I scaled them up. Also scaled the whole model to a bigger size, because it looked to small in game and changed some colors. Good now?

 

[Ratherion]

Try a red for the glove, gj on the shoulder... but maybe add a bit more.. design instead of making it all one big peice of metal

 

[donut3.5]

Definitely red.
What would be cool is black laced with red outlines of the scales.
Also, since the theme is red, the eyes should be red too.
Hm, but where to stick that teamcolor..
--donut3.5--

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Made face pale,glove black,cloak darker,hair silver, and UVed the chest armor. Made the grey gaunlet have larger spikes. Don't want to change eyes unless you really want me too. should I change anything?

 

[THE_END]

Sword change the darn sword
I hate seeing Frostmourne being wielded by Kael

 

[Ratherion]

Yea... make it.. well give it some gold trim/insignias, that would look much more blood-elfy

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Blood elfy huh? Behold! Blood.
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did symbols on the cape too.
good now?

 

[donut3.5]

The wrap on the cape is awful...
I can see the squares plain as daylight.
--donut3.5--

 

[Ratherion]

But other than that the red looks pretty good to me.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

I'll try my best to fix the cape..but its hard to get it right. The top-most symbol is good i think. Other than that is there anything that needs changing?

 

[Ratherion]

Your still missing some gold trim, that would add alot in my eyes

 

[THE_END]

Yeaa some gold trim
And make those runes blend in more
Right now their placement is just horrid to look at

 

[Massive_attack]

instead of 3, why not one big rune in the middle? (a red rune too, that would look gr8)

just my 2 cents.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Is one Rune better? The reason I made it blue is because the flame on the orbs will be blue, and his eyes are already blue.

I'm thinking of making the rune team color. He already has Team glow, what u think?

 

[Ratherion]

Me likey! I find it cool you you did the portrait.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Still think I should add some gold trim on the sword? Thats not teh portrait, the portrait will be the regular one with my skin applied and blue flame emitters in the eyes.

 

[donut3.5]

I would say change all blue to TC. That would be awesome.
Did you add anims yet? If so, what from?
--donut3.5--

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Anything you dislike or think needs changing? Updated.

 

[THE_END]

Get those orbs some particle emitters..STAT!