Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[igncal30]

This campaign and rise of the blood elf are truly awesome!!!, it make play wc3 again, I only hope that you can update this one too, the only flaw is the new lich king jaja... but still great campain!!!

 

[tomoraider]

Tomoraider Like it!! I know some bugs may occur, but no games is perfect! Scale it 5/5!

This campaign and rise of the blood elf are truly awesome!!!, it make play wc3 again, I only hope that you can update this one too, the only flaw is the new lich king jaja... but still great campain!!!

Thanks, glad you liked it!

 

[MaxHothhowzer]

Love it although I have one issue. I don't like the model for lothar

 

[Anaxie]

Tomoraider

Do you happen to have a guesstimate on v3.0 release?

Two weeks? A month? 3 months? Fall? Winter?

I don't expect the time given to be accurate I just think most people are eager for a general idea when.

Any additional levels or intermission floating around in your creative mind?



We all know seeds of faith didn't pan out.

Maybe another cataclysm based expansion but focusing on the forsaken worsen war.

Could be simple for levels. The sack of gilneans, the silverpine resistance, searching for godfrey, silverpine p2 ending with crowley surrender and godfrey backstab, shadowfang keep, hillsbrad, the battle of andorhal.

 

[tomoraider]

I don't know when it will be done. I don't work very consistently, so it's hard to tell. I don't think I'm even half-way done, so it will be a while.

 

[Anaxie]

106,000 downloads. You could break into the industry with both of your campaigns as proof of concept. I would of payed $60 alone for RotBE and CotF as a standalone 2nd expansion to WC3 which is pretty much what i treat them as.

 

[Nanang Kiroh]

Hmmmm.... Awesome that campaign. Good luck for this campaign @tomoraider.

 

[Verb8im]

How's progress going on 3.0?

 

[Arjuna]

Awesome until now, just started and am in chapter 3
Well, it's 2017 but i think u still will appreaciate the report of bugs and errors, so here we go:

(just those i realized up to now, will update it as i progress in the campaign)
- in chapter 1, in the dialogue after the destruction of the first outpost to take over there goldmine, in the line that goes like "And you Dreadlord, you will be meet the same fate as the others of your kind." the be has to be removed .. i think in some other dialogues of 1st or 2nd chapter, i saw something else, but i will go through all dialogues later again
- the Laboratory's "research" effect, the lightning strike, i think it is supposed to hit this spire that starts to glow? But for me, it just hits the ground right side next to the building or depending on camera angle just goes through the roof
- some of the highlighted shortkeys don't work, but that may be due to my warcraft not being the english version? (Therefore some tooltips etc. are english alongside stuff that isn't ...pitty i can't change game language) Example, building Guard Towers, <G>, does not work by pressing G, but there is no game intern command (attack, move, stop, etc.) that uses <G> and would have higher priority and block your custom key binding, hmmh..

 

[tomoraider]

How's progress going on 3.0?

Pretty slow, haven't really been working on it lately. I'll get back to it soon, hopefully.

Awesome until now, just started and am in chapter 3
Well, it's 2017 but i think u still will appreaciate the report of bugs and errors, so here we go:

(just those i realized up to now, will update it as i progress in the campaign)
- in chapter 1, in the dialogue after the destruction of the first outpost to take over there goldmine, in the line that goes like "And you Dreadlord, you will be meet the same fate as the others of your kind." the be has to be removed .. i think in some other dialogues of 1st or 2nd chapter, i saw something else, but i will go through all dialogues later again
- the Laboratory's "research" effect, the lightning strike, i think it is supposed to hit this spire that starts to glow? But for me, it just hits the ground right side next to the building or depending on camera angle just goes through the roof
- some of the highlighted shortkeys don't work, but that may be due to my warcraft not being the english version? (Therefore some tooltips etc. are english alongside stuff that isn't ...pitty i can't change game language) Example, building Guard Towers, <G>, does not work by pressing G, but there is no game intern command (attack, move, stop, etc.) that uses <G> and would have higher priority and block your custom key binding, hmmh..

Most of the dialogues will be updated in the next version, but thanks for reporting that, regardless. The Royal Laboratory's lightning strike, that's an issue with the model I believe, I can't fix it. As for the hotkeys, I honestly don't know why it wouldn't work. I suppose it might be like you say because it's not in english.

 

[Arjuna]

Hi tomoraider! I gladly help where i can.

I found some new stuff, don't know if its intended:

- Guard Towers' arrow abilities have a shorter range than the actual attack range. I was wondering yet "damn, are in this mission all scarlet crusaders magic immune like the golems?!" because they all had full mana and were only shooting their basic attack, so i selected a tower and manually wanted to fire an enchanted arrow on an enemy, then i knew the reason -- oh, out of range even if the tower an attack them <_<
- As units are undead, their automatic health regeneration is only active while standing on Blight Ground. Since You seemingly used the Nightelf-tech for "summoning" buidings, so there is no Blight created around one's buildings (since Blight is even not needed for "summoning" other buildings), but that forces one to repeatedly buy these skulls at the relic shop for creating Blight in order to have health regen. But with an enemie's priest coming by and casting dispel, the Blight is gone again :S
I can't and don't want to decide if its good or bad that Blight is not needed for building (your Forsaken abide to your rules and conception of their cuture), but one of two things should be done: let buildings create Blight OR give all units health regen regardless of Blight.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Or make a special, blight-spreading building that acts similar to the Protoss Shield Battery; a building with the sole purpose of providing regeneration.

 

[Anaxie]

Or dont make the terrain ugly as fuck since there is already scourge and apply normalunit regeneration

 

[Arjuna]

@Anaxie, i think that may be the best solution, and if some lore-based skeptics are disapproving this, then let's say: "normal undead"=mental slaves of the lich king, need blight=lich king's touch to have the ability to regenerate, "Forsaken" = own will. Done

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Oh, and i found another curiosity :O

-> After possession-ing (don't know the Banshees' ability name in English ) a priest of the scarlet crusade, i realized they have a new spell called "Dark Aegis" -- my question is, is the ability really correct as it is?
It is basically Inner Fire (which the priests still have beside the new one), just without the dmg%+ and armor is +3. I.F. gives +5, so Dark Aegis is in all aspects worse ...
Furthermore, manually (and i think even by the AI) this spell can *not* be cast, since it uses still the same spell string as I.F. (i mean the line in the editor under Ability Tab > Text - command string - use, or how it may be called in English), so regardless which one of both you want to cast, normal I.F. will be cast; Dark Aegis only if you immediately recast it while I.F. is still on global cooldown).
Another problem is finally, both spells even still use the same Buff/Effect type, so that they overwrite each other and only one of both can be active on a unit at the same time ... all in all, i am totally confused by this spell atm

 

[tomoraider]

Hi tomoraider! I gladly help where i can.

I found some new stuff, don't know if its intended:

- Guard Towers' arrow abilities have a shorter range than the actual attack range. I was wondering yet "damn, are in this mission all scarlet crusaders magic immune like the golems?!" because they all had full mana and were only shooting their basic attack, so i selected a tower and manually wanted to fire an enchanted arrow on an enemy, then i knew the reason -- oh, out of range even if the tower an attack them <_<
- As units are undead, their automatic health regeneration is only active while standing on Blight Ground. Since You seemingly used the Nightelf-tech for "summoning" buidings, so there is no Blight created around one's buildings (since Blight is even not needed for "summoning" other buildings), but that forces one to repeatedly buy these skulls at the relic shop for creating Blight in order to have health regen. But with an enemie's priest coming by and casting dispel, the Blight is gone again :S
I can't and don't want to decide if its good or bad that Blight is not needed for building (your Forsaken abide to your rules and conception of their cuture), but one of two things should be done: let buildings create Blight OR give all units health regen regardless of Blight.

Or dont make the terrain ugly as fuck since there is already scourge and apply normalunit regeneration

@Anaxie-> After possession-ing (don't know the Banshees' ability name in English ) a priest of the scarlet crusade, i realized they have a new spell called "Dark Aegis" -- my question is, is the ability really correct as it is?
It is basically Inner Fire (which the priests still have beside the new one), just without the dmg%+ and armor is +3. I.F. gives +5, so Dark Aegis is in all aspects worse ...
Furthermore, manually (and i think even by the AI) this spell can *not* be cast, since it uses still the same spell string as I.F. (i mean the line in the editor under Ability Tab > Text - command string - use, or how it may be called in English), so regardless which one of both you want to cast, normal I.F. will be cast; Dark Aegis only if you immediately recast it while I.F. is still on global cooldown).
Another problem is finally, both spells even still use the same Buff/Effect type, so that they overwrite each other and only one of both can be active on a unit at the same time ... all in all, i am totally confused by this spell atm

You're totally right about the guard towers, I completely missed that. I'll need to fix that! You're also right about Dark Aegis, I gave them that ability all the way in the first version of the campaign just to add some flavour to the Scarlet Crusade, to show a bit they're corrupted, but yes, it doesn't work since it's literally just Inner Fire. I believe I already removed it, but I honestly can't remember on top of my head.

As for the blight, I'd rather keep it as it is, and I already figured out something a bit more interesting than buying skulls from the shop, so hopefully that will work out.

 

[Verb8im]

Any progress about 3.0?

 

[Arjuna]

You're totally right about the guard towers, I completely missed that. I'll need to fix that! You're also right about Dark Aegis, I gave them that ability all the way in the first version of the campaign just to add some flavour to the Scarlet Crusade, to show a bit they're corrupted, but yes, it doesn't work since it's literally just Inner Fire. I believe I already removed it, but I honestly can't remember on top of my head.

As for the blight, I'd rather keep it as it is, and I already figured out something a bit more interesting than buying skulls from the shop, so hopefully that will work out.

BIG EDIT OF MY POST: (arrived chapter 7 now) i am so sorry .. this Regenerativ Flesh uprade!, you thought on that blight stuff (first glance, it seemed u just forgot that units have blight related life regen, therefore my older post, and my sorry now). Then, it has to be a bit struggly at the beginning until you get this upgrade, that's good! ..so maybe the old method: blight radius around the city hall, or something new - i am already curious

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- Lor'Themar's "Flames of Retribution" aren't intended to harm own units too, isn't it? Tool tip at least states "to all enemy units", but it burns my poor Lor'thy to death too XD
- Just a cosmetic thing: The tool tip of his "Blood Cry" does not mention the attack speed reduction.

- When approaching the Forge of Souls area, Vereesa says "This must be the place. Thread carefully." ..most probably my English is wrong as always but i say "tread carefully" in such instances ?

 

[Arjuna]

Humm... in 8.2, after loading a quicksave, the great atmosphere you created by the darkness lit with the torch, was gone :s

 

[Dr. E]

Hi, I just replayed the campaign, and It's better now than it was originally. But one thing that is really bad is the oggrimar lvl. The concept is great, but the terrain is bad on that map, and the map itself is kinda small, it makes it hard to push into undead bases, although that part after you manage to defend seems as a bonus part anyway. But it really doesn't feel like oggrimar. You maybe could've done like two forward bases protecting the outer wall, and then inner base protected by inner wall. Maybe even some premade event where those outer bases fall, and undead get to the inner wall. It could also be sweet to make a little orc habitat outside the outer wall that gets destroyed in part of the cinematic. The rest of the maps are great, and I also like Phaelynne part very much, it adds to campaign a lot. You could also make some unique items, and add cinematic like in blood elves. But the one in the middle of the map with arthas Anyway GL, great job on making the campaign.

Edit Best map for me is retaking of undercity, only because of Sylvannas statue xd. But seriously very great map.

 

[tomoraider]

Glad you liked the campaign. And, lucky for you, that map is getting heavily revamped in v3.0!

 

[N1ght1ng4L3]

Really well made map!
Had to log into my account of 3 years to post this comment

 

[Fallensk]

Hi Tomoraider !
I just want to know how far did u get with update of this campaign cuz i cant wait and try it !
Good luck and keep working

 

[tomoraider]

Really well made map!
Had to log into my account of 3 years to post this comment

Thank you, glad you liked it.

Hi Tomoraider !
I just want to know how far did u get with update of this campaign cuz i cant wait and try it !
Good luck and keep working

I'm not sure, maybe about halfway done? It's going to be a while.

 

[Anaxie]

Thank you, glad you liked it.



I'm not sure, maybe about halfway done? It's going to be a while.

don't sell your work short. even 1/4 done would be fast. and this is a campaign VERSION update.

I'm still thankful we even have 2 outstanding full campaigns from you in the first place considering the average abandonment rate for campaigns across the last 14 years.

i hope you will..... change... the rather poor Kil'jaeden RotBE model in the future.
considering we now have THIS to work with.

 

[Verb8im]

Jaina (Before and After Theramore)

This is a great Jaina skin that you can replace the current one with.

 

[Anaxie]

Jaina (Before and After Theramore)

This is a great Jaina skin that you can replace the current one with.

grey cloth instead of white. how hideous looks like shes wearing full plate

default is fine

 

[Banished]

Hello

I wanted to play warcraft single player but I was bored of the original campaign just because I played it so much. Reddit forwarded me here and I am so glad they did! I am at chapter 9 and this campaign is incredible. Very well designed. Orgrimmar level is especially fun. The campaign picks up after that and you get invested. I will definitely play rise of the blood elves after this. Thank you!

PS: You might want to change how you define difficulty though. When I read there was a hard option I looked everywhere to find out how to set it to hard. Later in the posts I have found out you just meant between medium and hard.

 

[Ahman]

One of my favorite campaigns so far. I liked the way that the end wasn't canon 100% as it would look weird to make Bolvar Fordragon the lich king, because he wasn't introduced in the whole campaign. I also liked the voice acted dialogues, pretty well done.
5/5
Are there any projects you have in mind, tomoraider?

 

[tomoraider]

i hope you will..... change... the rather poor Kil'jaeden RotBE model in the future.
considering we now have THIS to work with.

Jaina (Before and After Theramore)

This is a great Jaina skin that you can replace the current one with.

I think Kil'jaeden's model is fine. I am not a big fan of using WoW models, they're too detailed for WC3. Occasionally I use them, but I prefer not to if someone else made a model of what I need. As for Jaina's skin, she's getting a new one, but not that one.

Hello

I wanted to play warcraft single player but I was bored of the original campaign just because I played it so much. Reddit forwarded me here and I am so glad they did! I am at chapter 9 and this campaign is incredible. Very well designed. Orgrimmar level is especially fun. The campaign picks up after that and you get invested. I will definitely play rise of the blood elves after this. Thank you!

PS: You might want to change how you define difficulty though. When I read there was a hard option I looked everywhere to find out how to set it to hard. Later in the posts I have found out you just meant between medium and hard.

Glad you liked it! Interesting you think Orgrimmar level is the most fun, most people didn't seem to like that one. And you're right about the difficulty, which is why in RotBE v3.0 it's defined as just hard, and it will be in CotF v3.0.

One of my favorite campaigns so far. I liked the way that the end wasn't canon 100% as it would look weird to make Bolvar Fordragon the lich king, because he wasn't introduced in the whole campaign. I also liked the voice acted dialogues, pretty well done.
5/5
Are there any projects you have in mind, tomoraider?

Thank you! I am currently working on a v3.0 update of this campaign.

 

[Doomcore]

 

[MinorCharacter]

Played through both of your campaigns and the quality is phenomenal, like Blizzard made it themselves. Really looking forward to v3.0! If you ever decide to cover Cataclysm as a Night Elf campaign, or Mists of Pandaria as a Horde campaign, I'd love to help out with planning and writing, only things I am really good at, though I am trying to learn my way around the editor for my Rise of the Horde project.

 

[Anaxie]

Played through both of your campaigns and the quality is phenomenal, like Blizzard made it themselves. Really looking forward to v3.0! If you ever decide to cover Cataclysm as a Night Elf campaign, or Mists of Pandaria as a Horde campaign, I'd love to help out with planning and writing, only things I am really good at, though I am trying to learn my way around the editor for my Rise of the Horde project.

You mean legacy of lordaeron and tides of War?

Those exist

 

[MinorCharacter]

You mean legacy of lordaeron and tides of War?

Those exist

Did not know that, will have to check them out.

 

[stein123]

I think Kil'jaeden's model is fine. I am not a big fan of using WoW models, they're too detailed for WC3. Occasionally I use them, but I prefer not to if someone else made a model of what I need. As for Jaina's skin, she's getting a new one, but not that one.

lol who suggested WoW models? they look horrible in WC3 :s

 

[tomoraider]

Played through both of your campaigns and the quality is phenomenal, like Blizzard made it themselves. Really looking forward to v3.0!

Thank you, glad you liked it. Can't wait to finish v3.0!

 

[Verb8im]

Thank you, glad you liked it. Can't wait to finish v3.0!

Can I ask what some of the additions to 3.0 are? New models, skins, or even a new chapter?

 

[tomoraider]

Can I ask what some of the additions to 3.0 are? New models, skins, or even a new chapter?

There will be lots of new stuff. It's going to be a much bigger than RotBE v3.0.

 

[Cr4nKi3]

This was a really good campaign, well done!
I just had one "complaint", the music was a bit too loud which lead to me not hearing the voice acting in some sequences.

 

[plamfinator]

Both this campaign, and the Blood Elves were fantastic btw. The only thing I wanted to ask, is what is the point of the Kirin Tor guys being in the fourth level? I can't get to them, I can't attack them. What are they there for? I've been clearing out this entire level so I can try to get to them. I've killed every red unit and building, Varimathras has only a town hall. and I'm killing all the servants as they spawn them. Just curious. Thanks for making these. I would love to see some more preferably an Orc campaign, but I know how much time it takes to make something like this. Thanks again!

 

[Nanaki772]

Very well made campaign.
Rating: 4/5 Very much approved.

Sadly not 5/5
Main & biggest reason(s) being..
1. The ending, it was actual bs. Where was Bolvar and Tirion? Didn't like it at all tbh. "The Lich Queen" Yeah, no thanks.
2. Some of the dialogues in the beginning of the campaign was quite childish, some comments there that were kind of unnecessary but yeah it's pretty small.
3. On almost all of the maps where you had a base and you had to fend off against the computer, the attacks were too frequent.
You barely had any time to set up towers before they attacked and when you had killed that squad off, they send a new one from all ways.
You could make the time of the attacks a bit more delayed like Blizzard did with theirs.

Overall it was a very very good campaign and I really enjoyed playing it.
Felt almost like playing a Blizzard campaign, haha.

 

[tomoraider]

This was a really good campaign, well done!
I just had one "complaint", the music was a bit too loud which lead to me not hearing the voice acting in some sequences.

Thanks, and I agree. I am working on balancing the music and voice acting in v3.0.

Both this campaign, and the Blood Elves were fantastic btw. The only thing I wanted to ask, is what is the point of the Kirin Tor guys being in the fourth level? I can't get to them, I can't attack them. What are they there for? I've been clearing out this entire level so I can try to get to them. I've killed every red unit and building, Varimathras has only a town hall. and I'm killing all the servants as they spawn them. Just curious. Thanks for making these. I would love to see some more preferably an Orc campaign, but I know how much time it takes to make something like this. Thanks again!

Thank you, glad you liked them. There is no point to them, unfortunately, but there will be in v3.0!

Very well made campaign.
Rating: 4/5 Very much approved.

Sadly not 5/5
Main & biggest reason(s) being..
1. The ending, it was actual bs. Where was Bolvar and Tirion? Didn't like it at all tbh. "The Lich Queen" Yeah, no thanks.
2. Some of the dialogues in the beginning of the campaign was quite childish, some comments there that were kind of unnecessary but yeah it's pretty small.
3. On almost all of the maps where you had a base and you had to fend off against the computer, the attacks were too frequent.
You barely had any time to set up towers before they attacked and when you had killed that squad off, they send a new one from all ways.
You could make the time of the attacks a bit more delayed like Blizzard did with theirs.

Overall it was a very very good campaign and I really enjoyed playing it.
Felt almost like playing a Blizzard campaign, haha.

Glad you liked it. I agree with all your points; all that will be addressed in v3.0.

 

[plamfinator]

I realize it is a ton of work to make one of these campaigns, but if you're looking for any ideas, I would love to play a good Naga campaign. I've been looking for one on Hive and can't seem to find one.

 

[Nanaki772]

@tomoraider Also a question. Is Phaelynne basically the same person as Grand Apothecary Putress from WoW except erm gender change lol.

 

[Dage]

Best custom campaign so far and only reason why I came back to WC3!!! One of better decisions in my life <3

 

[tomoraider]

@tomoraider Also a question. Is Phaelynne basically the same person as Grand Apothecary Putress from WoW except erm gender change lol.

Eh, sorta. I don't think I based her on Putress when she was created, but later when I added Putress' story parts to the story, I simply gave them to her.

Best custom campaign so far and only reason why I came back to WC3!!! One of better decisions in my life <3

Thanks, glad you liked it!

 

[Radin]

Best campaign EVER!

 

[Zelda95]

is this still being updated? if so, when is the next update?

 

[tomoraider]

Best campaign EVER!

Thanks!

is this still being updated? if so, when is the next update?

It is. No idea when it'll be done, though.

 

[Vediovus]

how to get sylvanas windrunner sounds on cruse of forsaken..

 

[tomoraider]

how to get sylvanas windrunner sounds on cruse of forsaken..

You can open the campaign in the World Editor and extract the sound files.