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Concept Art Contest #6 - Tribal Princess

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Don't know if you'll like this princess of mine.

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Hi-tech is not tribal. Species is irrelevant as long as it being a princess can be recognised and it being tribal can be recognised. There should be no need to explain what your final concept is, the design must be intuitive.
 
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Well wait, tribal is a system of social organization.

"A social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties..."

Tribal is:

"Of or characteristic of a tribe or tribes."


Now I'm assuming you mean that it needs to be "Similar to the stereotypical amazonian tribesman or woman."

But that doesn't mean it can't be a robot dressed up as a tribal person, doesn't it? Now you said that it can be of any species, and i'm assuming that that can include non-organic life. (AI.)

That is my take.


@ Peekay

Thats great, i really like the detailing on the head!

But, I don't think nudity is allowed here, so, tone down the boobs.
 

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Non-organic life can't be tribal (because non-organic suggests something else than nature made it, and this something else has to have the necessary technology for this - and as such, this something is not tribal). The point is not dressed up as, it's actually being tribal through and through. Tribal defines a stage in society's evolution, if you will. A fairly primitive, early stage in evolution, too. Please don't try to stretch the theme, it's so annoying when people do that because it means I have to make even stricter themes to prevent all the "no, you can't do that, no, you can't do this" ..

Pretty much everything between no society at all and a society built up of multiple groupings are tribal. But don't stretch that either. One village. Probably one leader. Hunting and/or gathering food. As soon as there's an actual farm in there, it's no longer tribal. Mostly animal hides for clothing. You all know what is meant.
 
Non-organic life can't be tribal (because non-organic suggests something else than nature made it, and this something else has to have the necessary technology for this - and as such, this something is not tribal). The point is not dressed up as, it's actually being tribal through and through. Tribal defines a stage in society's evolution, if you will. A fairly primitive, early stage in evolution, too.

And yet something created can evolve itself, even socially. There is no rule of the cosmos that because one society is more advanced another can't be within a different state of societal development. ( I know you probably didn't mean this, but it sounded like it.) There are still tribes today who match your description of tribe.

There is also no rule that says an advanced lifeform knows its advanced. A Robot society could still go through a tribal state.


Please don't try to stretch the theme, it's so annoying when people do that because it means I have to make even stricter themes to prevent all the "no, you can't do that, no, you can't do this" ..

Pretty much everything between no society at all and a society built up of multiple groupings are tribal.

Tribal does have a specific definition.


But don't stretch that either. One village. Probably one leader. Hunting and/or gathering food. As soon as there's an actual farm in there, it's no longer tribal. Mostly animal hides for clothing. You all know what is meant.

A robot society could match the exact description you make, just because they themselves are advanced doesn't mean that they are. :p

I know I'm being annoying, but I feel like its a point that needs to be raised.
 

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So robots hunting animals for fat to smear into their joints. What else would they need? Energy, so if they're even alive they are probably powered by sunlight. What else do they do? Robots just don't offer a likely scenario. Also, as robots don't reproduce thus don't really evolve with new ideas and adept to the environment like organic lifeforms do, they wouldn't really pass through a stage in social evolution, thus if they were tribal they would probably also stay tribal until they rust and die.

As for societies being in different stages; yes, I know, but a society created by a society that is already at, say, where we are, will follow in that very pattern. You wouldn't actually program a robot to not live like we do, if you were to make an AI. A tribal robot would be of little or no use to us. I know there are tribes today, such as in the Amazonas and parts of Africa. However, I'm a bit reluctant to say they fit into tribal, because they are influenced by the modern society. If they have no ties with our society, though, they are tribal.

@PeeKay, I don't know of any rules explicitly forbidding nudity, so long as it's not erotic or suggestive thereof. Still, knowing American standards when it comes to nudity, I would advice against it. People may be offended, and there are stricter people within the staff than me who could see it fit to intervene.
 
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"Is not limited to".. I'd say nudity violates site rules. Also Kimberly always put black boxes infront of the breasts when she drew them naked, because she said it violated the rules, so I guess this has been up for discussion before.
 
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tell that to optimus prime. living cybernetic organisms, who's to say someone couldnt hamhandedly wrestle robots into some sort of artificial evolving lifeform archetype at a 'tribal' stage of development?

i feel my creativity being oppressed.... also suppressed.... also you're a jerk cause u no liek optimas praim
 

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shiiK. The oppressor of creativity, the suppressor of awesome.


Err, as far as I've understood it, the alien predators are a highly developed society, but they have a sport where they are stationed on some planet to hunt something. In the process of hunting, they may appear tribal, just as humans who traverse the wilderness with nothing else than clothes, a dog and the tools they need to make for their survival may seem tribal in lifestyle when isolated. A tribal princess has no choice but to be tribal. It's not a hobby. :v
 
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shiiK. The oppressor of creativity, the suppressor of awesome.


Err, as far as I've understood it, the alien predators are a highly developed society, but they have a sport where they are stationed on some planet to hunt something. In the process of hunting, they may appear tribal, just as humans who traverse the wilderness with nothing else than clothes, a dog and the tools they need to make for their survival may seem tribal in lifestyle when isolated. A tribal princess has no choice but to be tribal. It's not a hobby. :v

Well, the only moment that at predators society hunting is some sort of cult and, aswell, such high person as princess or prince should have a greatest symbols of this cult. In primiveal society structure - stronger warrior becomes king. Who said that hi-tech civilisation cannot be oriented around war\strength? So, thier cult leader can be aswell a woman. I guess the only point there is a type of choosen society.

Also, for example, look at post-apocaliptycal themes, for example Fallout world can mix hi-tech with primitivism.

Aswell - "Waterworld" movie also mixes technology with primiveal forms of society.

Anyway, there is also Warhammer world that too includes primiveal society with high technological level.

Sorry for bad english, i hope you understand my point.
 
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Well, Shiik, explain me please, did nudity violates site and contest rules ?

This has nothing to do with nudity. :|
Are you even reading what they're saying?


As for societies being in different stages; yes, I know, but a society created by a society that is already at, say, where we are, will follow in that very pattern. You wouldn't actually program a robot to not live like we do, if you were to make an AI. A tribal robot would be of little or no use to us. I know there are tribes today, such as in the Amazonas and parts of Africa. However, I'm a bit reluctant to say they fit into tribal, because they are influenced by the modern society. If they have no ties with our society, though, they are tribal.

But that's boring and uncreative. I think PeeKay should be allowed to draw whatever he wants, anytime it's a tribal princess. I know I have no say in this, but seriously, to me it looks like PeeKay isn't trying to 'stretch the theme', he's just trying to be creative. And creative he is.
 
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But that's boring and uncreative. I think PeeKay should be allowed to draw whatever he wants, anytime it's a tribal princess. I know I have no say in this, but seriously, to me it looks like PeeKay isn't trying to 'stretch the theme', he's just trying to be creative. And creative he is.

Well, i just ask'd for have more correct "theme". Aswell theme has enough space for fantasy, like north (scandinavian\siberian folk)\east (arabic\indian\chinese\japanese folk),\west (redskin)\south (south american (brasilian)\african\earlier egyptian etc.) Australian, Indian ocean island small nations. And all these can be shown aswell like shaman\warrior in different forms of environment, like caves\jungles\beaches etc, that realy forms appearance\clothes.

And so, you are free to add any kind of fantastic details :)
 

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I never said PeeKay's entry is stretching the theme, Deolrin. It is just fine. TWIF, however, is stretching the theme a bit too far for my liking.
 
So robots hunting animals for fat to smear into their joints. What else would they need?

This:


Buut...

so if they're even alive they are probably powered by sunlight. What else do they do? Robots just don't offer a likely scenario.

Bollock. They could have a similar process to a humans, using chemical pools located within their 'torso' to break down food or matter substances to burn as energy, by converting them to sugars/ect.

Its entirely plausible.

Also, as robots don't reproduce

Says who?

thus don't really evolve with new ideas and adept to the environment like organic lifeforms

Why not?

do, they wouldn't really pass through a stage in social evolution, thus if they were tribal they would probably also stay tribal until they rust and die.

Or not, who is to know the software mutation capabilities of the robots? that sort of thing is subjective.

As for societies being in different stages; yes, I know, but a society created by a society that is already at, say, where we are, will follow in that very pattern. You wouldn't actually program a robot to not live like we do, if you were to make an AI.

Why not? it could be a social experiment, creating artificial mechanical human replicas to preform social experiments, or it could be some strange, strange thing we couldn't understand. Or it could be for shits and giggles.

A tribal robot would be of little or no use to us.

Entertainment, research? Maybe it wasn't made by us, maybe it was made by another race with unintelligible goals. Or because they can.

I know there are tribes today, such as in the Amazonas and parts of Africa. However, I'm a bit reluctant to say they fit into tribal, because they are influenced by the modern society. If they have no ties with our society, though, they are tribal.

And there are still plenty out there which match the stereotype you're describing who also have contact with modern civilization.

@PeeKay, I don't know of any rules explicitly forbidding nudity, so long as it's not erotic or suggestive thereof. Still, knowing American standards when it comes to nudity, I would advice against it. People may be offended, and there are stricter people within the staff than me who could see it fit to intervene.

I'm not one of those people with "american standards." All i know is that people who post nudity are banned. So there must be a rule, right?
 
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Art dictates that nothing should be censored. In my opinion... It's a just a boundary you don't cross, defiling art... I think nudity is fine, so long as it is not pornographic, I'm sure the rules don't agree with me...

Peekay's wip/submission is absolutely exceptional, why ruin it.
 
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Personally, I don't see any reason you can't have an inorganic life form be tribal. Or have princesses, for that matter.

Not that I have any specific idea off-hand, just that it doesn't seem blatantly impossible to me.
 
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