Chronicles of the Second War: Tides of Darkness

[dafirus]

That secret mission unlocks after collecting all dragon figurine pieces, did you collect them all? I believe they are three fragments

Oh, I see!! thank you!!

In act 1 have a secret mission too?

 

[Nkara]

Hi,

I found another bug, in Stratholme mission after destroying Cathedral nothing else happens, I don't get another mission, gates became invincible, and I am stuck with my siege, I try using goblins sapper, catapults but no luck, I tried to attack from port, but gates there are also invincible.

Same thing is happening to me. It feels like a quest should pop up when Mara Fordragon appears (or slain) but nothing happens after killing her and destroying the Cathedral.
I tried restarting the mission, tried toggling god mode on and off, tried bombing everything with zeppelins, but still nothing happens and no more quests will show after the Cathedral.

 

[HSN]

thanks bud for WC2 campaign, it's amazing

 

[Wiimeiser]

Huh, I only found the head but I think I unlocked the mission anyway... Strange...

 

[Lang0005]

That secret mission unlocks after collecting all dragon figurine pieces, did you collect them all? I believe they are three fragments

I found 3 in the same mission. Is that it or is there more?

 

[rcshaggy]

I found 3 in the same mission. Is that it or is there more?

I believe there will be more in the next mission after you complete the first one with the Ancient Dragon Statue thing...
Still haven't gotten there yet myself, but I am sure they won't lock you out of a special mission without having to find everything though.

 

[Morris]

I found 3 in the same mission. Is that it or is there more?

there is one in the chapter where you have to escort Cho'Gall
that's the last piece, it should drop from a fire elemental on a small island near the end but it didn't drop for me

 

[sergei 23]

Good morning brother, when is the new company coming out, a continuation of this one, but for a company with people ?

 

[gummybear90]

DOwnload the latest campaing file patch and start form act 3. Rend diapearence will be fixed if you re-play mission 9 in new patch

I am so sorry for being a complete dumb person, but when you say "download the latest campaing patch" where is it exactly? all i see is a download of the entire campagin game again, do you mean to download CSW_Tides_Of_Darkness_EN.w3n again?

 

[Gekidou]

Never played the original warcraft 2 , but man this remastered is amazing cant believe the work the put here , fans doing better than that trash company.

 

[Standhaft]

Regarding secret missions, I found like... 2 or 3 already. This campaign is impressively and downright insanely long. I'm not sure I even found all the secret missions... lol.

For the dragon mission, you find the first 2 (3?) parts in the first mission that the dragon fragments appear and once you have found them all Zuluhed makes a comment like "I'll have to keep my eyes open for more parts" and the last part is actually in the next mission.

 

[FlorianGeyerGiebelstadt]

Masterpiece
played all chapters with hardmode (included secrets), Jan-12-2024 Bundle version.

Storyline & cutscenes are well made and It seems faithful to Blizzard's most of media-mixes it looks like properly harmonized.

Terraining work has so great size to play (as was the case with the original), but it's natural and beautiful. The fortified castle walls and the sieges were a very fresh and interesting experience.
custom 3d models and textures are perfect.

In the case of game-level design, in exploration missions, there are many interesting discoveries and the difficulty level is consistent or gradual.
In the macro mission, I felt like the difficulty level went down fast with time, but this is a lot of Warcraft 3's own problems, so I can't rate or evaluate to makers. (Blizzard is providing bad Naval AI(Sea Transport is especially too bad) and requires so much effort and precision in design and scripting)

Things I think need to be fixed (but not important)

• In Quelthalas, the OrderId of ability of Fel-Runestone must be different each other. The same OrderId's spells causes an error. But it's okay even if I exclude Felrunestone because the opponent's attackwave is not strong and my heroes are powerful.
• In Quelthalas, Please separate Enforcer and Fanatic, not in the same grunt group, or make Frenzy's auto-cast active after training. It's hard to find one by one and turn on the autocast. However, it's generally easier to mass-produce and assault Ogres on the enemy, so it doesn't matter if you maintain the current difficulty level.

Questions?

• Even if I complete Hinterlands Ploy, items and levels of Doomhammer and Zuljin are not loaded to next mission as they are. (But since it's literally a lost chapter, it could be the intended thing?)
• Won't you consider placing grid-hotkeys in the sequels? It's natural to follow the original WC2 hotkeys, but there are many new elements, so I think it's worth considering.

p.s
I've seen problems with framedrop and crash during loading, but I recognize that this is entirely Blizzard's mistake (single-core game that is released on 2020 year)

 

[Supa82]

Hello,

I'm a big fan of the lore of Warcraft. I played Warcraft for a long time since first game... Your mod is a good job. I found pleasure to replay at War 2 woth your mod.

But I have a problem. When I want to play, i can't save it because the game crashed. ("Application has met an unexpected error") Cheat codes doesn't work too. I have tried many things (reinstallation, antivirus software disabled...), computer is recent too. Nothing is working.

How can I do for resolving my problem?

Thanks for your response. And again good job for your work.

 

[gummybear90]

Hello... i need help with chapter 14, even though i destroyed all the ovsertories i cant seem to get to the citadel and the archmage

 

[Aswel]

What an amazing campaign. I hope you guys will continue to work and go Beyond the Portal as well.

 

[ProtoMan03]

How to progress chapter 10 Stratholme ? I found gold mine and nothing happened, no workers to build great hall

Hi there, first, I want to say wow, what an incredible job on this campaign. I'm havings tons of fun. Thank you to all the devs! The community owes you all.

Unfortunately I seem to be having a bug at chapter 10 similar to kov here. The side mission works when I find the fountain of power, but nothing happens once I find the goldmine, and I can't seem to get past this. I think I saw at least one other mention of this issue on this thread but did not see a response yet. Any suggestions?

Thank you!

 

[MorderiTor]

Hello... i need help with chapter 14, even though i destroyed all the ovsertories i cant seem to get to the citadel and the archmage

You must steadily move toward the barrier, each time there will spawn enemies that you need to defeat, and then it will move closer and closer to the mage, it sometimes takes a few seconds to move the barrier to the next point.

 

[Kapanol]

Yeah I also have the problem with the dragon figures or whatever they are, I collected two out of three in the first mission that had them and then in the swamp mission with Chogall i killed the fire elemental but it didn't spawn... so is there any way to unlock it? I did the mission again but it didn't appear either

 

[MorderiTor]

Yeah I also have the problem with the dragon figures or whatever they are, I collected two out of three in the first mission that had them and then in the swamp mission with Chogall i killed the fire elemental but it didn't spawn... so is there any way to unlock it? I did the mission again but it didn't appear either

There are three pieces one on the enemy island and two on the continent, and then in the next mission you have one as a drop from elemental, so you should have 4 to unlock bonus mission 1

There is possibility that if you failed to collect 3 mission in the stronghold then in next mission it won't drop.

 

[Standhaft]

I just finished all the missions. Truly amazing work. However, the epilogue always crashes for me so I haven't been able to watch it. I searched on youtube but haven't found it. Can someone upload it for me please?

 

[kingfirex2]

amazing campaign

insane cinematic

 

[Fazinis]

Great job, I hope you don't stop after this project. Maybe we still need to work on the voiceover, correct the details of the environment on the maps, the water shores, because the ships seem to be sailing on land.
But really, very good project, thank you.

 

[mnadeau1992]

I love it. 9.5/10 because of bugs. Would've given perfect 10 otherwise.
I am stuck in the Dalaran mission with the Cross Island. I've killed the Archmage and the Citadel but the mission doesn't end. It's stuck at ''Destroy the citadel'' which never finishes despite the citadel being destroyed. I've tried killing every units in the map but it doesnt help. There is also a bug where the bottom observatory was never destroyed by the army of the dead and it was stuck there trying to attack the invulnerable building instead of the one to the right that was killable. I had to use dragons to help them. I redid the mission with invulnerability cheat code to go faster and I get the same bugs again but this time Teron Gorefiend died. I don't know how to move forward.
Couple other bugs from the version I downloaded include non-appearing Rend in later missions and chogall runing away from the boss fight in phase 2. That seems fixed from the latest patches from what I've read, thanks.

 

[Morgimir]

Hey, ive been trying to run the installer and it keeps telling me its not a valid warcraft 3 file? What would you advise?

 

[Elrath]

I'm still unable to progress mission 14, I destroyed everything and no quest progression. Any idea how to fix this one lads?

 

[Flinn]

I am so sorry for being a complete dumb person, but when you say "download the latest campaing patch" where is it exactly? all i see is a download of the entire campagin game again, do you mean to download CSW_Tides_Of_Darkness_EN.w3n again?

Yes, you need to download the campaign file again, as custom campaigns can't be patched in the traditional sense.

 

[Danym333]

I completed the campaign and it was amazing. Best campaign ever in any RTS. Few minor bugs but nothing "whosyourdaddy" cheat code couldn't bypass lol

 

[Prophallus]

For me it crashes after finishing Lost chapter 1 after subjugating the dragon queen, when cinematics starts after the mission is complete it throws me out to windows and wants to send a report to blizzard. Anyone know how to fix or get around this?

Edit: Reloaded a previous save and had to redo some stuff, but this time it worked, no crashes.

 

[MorderiTor]

For me it crashes after finishing Lost chapter 1 after subjugating the dragon queen, when cinematics starts after the mission is complete it throws me out to windows and wants to send a report to blizzard. Anyone know how to fix or get around this?

You can't fix it, I got around it by skipping ending cinematic and choosing end campaign not next mission, try it should help.
Thanks to that metod next mission is unlocked form campaign main screen so you will have to enter it and choos it manually.

 

[stein123]

Just commenting to congratulate the whole team, you guys made one of the, if not the best wc3 campaing i've seen so far, from zul'aman to the temple of sargeras the quality skyrocketed, hope you guys get more recognition, and hope to see what's next!

 

[Kapanol]

So is there a way to unlock the lost chapter 1 without the statues? Pretty sad you can't play a mission if you missed one statue lol, I unlocked and played lost chapter 2 somehow but the first one with the dragons and whatever it is I don't have

 

[MorderiTor]

So is there a way to unlock the lost chapter 1 without the statues? Pretty sad you can't play a mission if you missed one statue lol, I unlocked and played lost chapter 2 somehow but the first one with the dragons and whatever it is I don't have

You need all statues or to unlock it in camping editor, there is no other way.

 

[Zigallen]

I love it. 9.5/10 because of bugs. Would've given perfect 10 otherwise.
I am stuck in the Dalaran mission with the Cross Island. I've killed the Archmage and the Citadel but the mission doesn't end. It's stuck at ''Destroy the citadel'' which never finishes despite the citadel being destroyed. I've tried killing every units in the map but it doesnt help. There is also a bug where the bottom observatory was never destroyed by the army of the dead and it was stuck there trying to attack the invulnerable building instead of the one to the right that was killable. I had to use dragons to help them. I redid the mission with invulnerability cheat code to go faster and I get the same bugs again but this time Teron Gorefiend died. I don't know how to move forward.
Couple other bugs from the version I downloaded include non-appearing Rend in later missions and chogall runing away from the boss fight in phase 2. That seems fixed from the latest patches from what I've read, thanks.

I am having the exact same issues. Updating to the newest version fixed the problem with Chogall running away, but I am experiencing the same things with Rend not appearing in gameplay even though he is present in the cutscenes and even has dialogue, as well as the mission not registering the destruction of the Violet Hold and not being completable.

 

[orglee]

Hi, I'm having issues with some textures.

What should I do about it ? I've restarted the PC and tried to reload the mission but it didn't help.

 

[Abelhawk]

I'm trying to download the Asset Pack and it says the transfer has expired.

 

[Tamplier]

I'm trying to download the Asset Pack and it says the transfer has expired.

I updated the links

 

[Tamplier]

I am having the exact same issues. Updating to the newest version fixed the problem with Chogall running away, but I am experiencing the same things with Rend not appearing in gameplay even though he is present in the cutscenes and even has dialogue, as well as the mission not registering the destruction of the Violet Hold and not being completable.

Rend disparearance can be fixed only if you play misison 9 agian in the latest patch.

 

[ProtoMan03]

Is there anyway to skip through missions? In trying to solve my chapter 10 bug I lost my save file and progress... the usual cheat "allyourbasearebelongtous" doesn't work.

 

[rcshaggy]

I updated the links

Would I have to update my Asset pack and the Installer too for the new patch fixes?

 

[Rommel]

Now, here comes the big review!

First things first, I must say that Warcraft II has a very special place in my heart, and while it probably hasn't aged as good as Diablo or Starcraft, or been a industry-breaking hit like WoW, there was something truly magical in its graphics, music and story. I recall the impression it left in 1995 with its SVGA hi-res (yes, 640x480 was a huge upgrade over 320x200!) graphics, attention to detail and never-seen-before stuff like sea combat and winter landscapes.
Well, with CSW, now it's that 1995 again for me. And yes, I remember most missions' gameplay and terrain well enough to appreciate their new versions almost 30 years later. But there are two aspects of this campaign that I liked even more: visuals and story.

There were plenty of attempts of recreating Warcraft II in Warcraft III, some almost literal, some only loosely based on the setting. I think Scars of Conflict came the closest regarding graphics and style. Still, I always thought detailed 2D sprites are a pain to reincarnate into low-poly 3D models, so Reforged with its distictively new, realistically proportioned but cartoonishly bright model style provided much better opportunities. CSW's promotional screenshots and freebie models released here on Hive were already very impressive, but the end product looks so much better. It doesn't just recreate ancient game's graphics pixel by pixel but rather captures the general feel of it, as well as recognizeable details, and mixes it with modern designs of characters and landscapes. Things like new tilesets, Blackrock Spire's interiors, design of hobgoblin bodyguards, or the layout of Zul'aman are something similar to what we all expected from Reforged - art evolution based on existing canon, the new weaved into the old, giving a coherent picture.

The same can be said about the story, too. CSW does a great job at welding Warcraft II, Warcraft III and WoW's canons, and that's no small achievement, given the sheer number of retcons over the years. While the campaign's story diverges from Warcraft: Chronicle which is the closest we have to official Warcraft history (like Death Knights introduced much later than in Hillsbrad, or Gul'dan having very specific reasons to take part in razing Quel'thalas), I'd say it's probably for the best as it concentrates on recognizeable points from all three games, and combines them in a way that is understandable for people unfamiliar with lore but gives plently of "wheeee!" moments for die-hard lore geeks. And fanon retcons like making Durnholde the actual prison at Tarren Mill where Zul'jin was held (and having a certain orc child watch it from the walls) make quite a lot of sense.

I also liked that while the cast is made of well-known characters, all of them have some small details making them more relatable. Zuluhed is the closest we have to a nice guy here (ironic given his role in subjigating Alexstrasza), a calm, composed, honorable old shaman. Rend and Maim have some brotherly rivalry but also are genuinely loyal to each other and the Horde's cause. And while the narrative makes it clear we're playing as the bad guys, there's quite some moral greyness, especially considering Zul'jin's agenda. The story also gives a good idea of how much was Orgrim's success based on improvising and a good (or bad, in Gul'dan's case) choice of underlings. While the last mission is obviously "what if" (combining last two missions of the original Warcraft II campaign where orcs actually succeed in razing Dalaran and Lordaeron), others do not deviate from the actual canon and provide a very sensible picture of the Second War.

Did I mention that CSW has some of the most jaw-dropping cinematics I've seen in a custom campaign? I absolutely loved how remastered Warcraft II cutscenes were weaved into the whole plot, from the iconic "Tides of Darkness" scene of approaching orc fleet, to the burning of human corpses on a proto-Slaughterhouse wheel. Gul'dan raising the Tomb of Sargeras followed by Utok's ride through the fields is probably the most memorable and well-executed scene. Lost Isles and Tomb of Sargeras are, in general, the crown jewel of the campaign, mixing Warcraft II's story, TFT's map layout and WoW: Legion's concept and graphics. Fantastic work. A close second is the secret Zul'aman mission, especially its final twist.

Now, does CSW have drawbacks? Yes, becauses nothing is perfect ^^ Still, most of them are either on the "to fix" list or are more of a matter of taste and opinion. Some of the bugs at launch outright broke the game (and that's why I generally never buy games or download campaigns before the first major patch is released)). Text in dialogues and mission objectives would benefit from additional proofreading - there are still plenty of small typos, some mixed up punctuation, missing capital letters etc - things like "cross island" or "Twilight Hammer" (instead of "Cross Island" and "Twilight's Hammer") may be very minor errors but they're still noticeable. What's probably more serious, at least from my point of view, is the general dialogue style - I appreciate including details like allusions to Warcraft II's briefings with direct quotes, but they sound somewhat not very fitting for actual character lines (they were clearly meant to be narrator's speech, not something said by heroes themselves), and many are too verbose and poetical given the setting and circumstances. That's still a better thing than Blizzard's current writing, mind you, or generic AAA games dialogue style where medieval fantasy chars speak like modern teenagers (God of War: Ragnarok, I'm looking at you!), but there were quite a few instances where I was left with "that's a bit out of character" impression. Besides, while the amount of sound work is amazing and voicing quality is very good (and some voices, like Nekros or Anasterian, are genuinely perfect), there's a certain lack of emotion at some points, mostly with Orgrim and Zuluhed.

Nevertheless, that certainly this didn't affect my general, very positive, impression of the campaign.

What else could be improved, if you ask me? Well, the opening cinematic is a bit too long, and perhaps it would have been a good idea to make it a playable quasi-mission like Re-Reforged interlude where Jaina is walking around burning Stratholme - making a playable Saurfang walk between points of interest in Stormwind, talk to Orgrim, check the prison etc. Also, default Warcraft III "Sad Mystery" music would have been better changed to something different in the opening, it's too recognizeable.

Perhaps the ending of the Quel'thalas mission could be redone, now it feels a bit rushed (at least compared to Zul'aman and Tomb of Sargeras awesomeness that follows) - dragons are seen clipping through the trees and the battle before the gates of Silvermoon is just a lot of units randomly attacking each other. Also, how did Utok survive for a month in that pit? Was expecting Zul'jin instead resurrecting him via some voodoo (not to mention Gul'dan would have made sure Utok is dead).

And the ending cutscene left me somewhat puzzled - if we razed the Capital City in the actual mission, what city's walls are being breached? Not to mention Orgrim's "the Tides of Darkness are now at hand" speech feels like it belongs to the mission's beginning instead.

But then again, these are very minor issues indeed. In general, not only this project is a top notch campaign/mod, it's something that feels like Blizzard's own work - and I mean the old, legendary Blizzard, of course. My salutations to the team and deepest respect for the amount of work and love put into it. Wish you the best of luck with the sequels. You've established a new quality level for the community, and honestly, this project alone is worth buying Reforged for. Lok-Tar Ogar!

 

[ShadiHD]

@Rommel probably one of the best feedbacks we've got in this entire community, thanks a lot for your heartwarming praise and very on-point feedback on certain regards.

we are indeed planning to further polish this campaign, that includes quality of life improvements for some voices, visuals, and even cut-scenes, as this will be the standard quality quota that we aim for as we move further.

we are very pleased honestly to see the fans "discuss" the ending of this campaign, and debating it being canon or not, I promise you this, we left this huge cliff-hanger on purpose. wait till you see the Alliance campaign!

 

[The Nightmare Book]

First of all - thank you for such a project you've made! It's a pleasure to play and relive stories of WC2 in new shape.
But this campaign is strangely designed for Hard Difficulty.

I'm trying to play every custom project here on maximum difficulty, so here comes the problem:

• Naval AI. It's not working properly, maybe due to a custom oil resource. On some missions, the bot uses his ships to harass players' oil patches, on some - ignores and sends only transport vehicles to transport his units.
  Bot doesn't build new ships, and doesn't properly rebuild shipyards and ship buildings whenever it's possible. AI is stuck when you destroy all of the transports, making any naval mission absurdly easy and allowing the player to complete a mission for any length desired.
  Hard Difficulty, as it stated by Reforged itself, should be for "warcraft veterans". However, AI doesn't make any valuable effort to protect himself on naval, so you can outrun him with your shitty 0/0 ships (when he has from FIRST naval mission 2/2!) slowly yet steady.
  Maybe disable oil for AI and just make his ships cost more gold/lumber to compensate? This may allow AI to build them properly.

• ABSURD of level difficulties. Let me speak of two examples: Razing Tyr Hand and Lost Isles.
  • Mission "Razing of Tyr's Hand" is a ducking mess:
    • The first part of this mess is timed caravans. When a player doesn't have much time to build ships, let's send to him 2 2/2 frigates and then, on the next caravan, 2/2 battlecruiser! Cause why not?! But we only start!
    • When water freezes, you will instantly regret that cause of constantly SPAWNED WAVES of a bunch of knights, footmen, ARCHERS, and ballistas (that with 2/2 grades instantly shoots most of your stuff). It's ABSURD to send on player on such a squad, but ABSURDISH IS TO SEND THEM EVERY 2 MINUTES!
    • How I can defeat those enemies, I cannot properly reinforce - when I finish with the last one of the previous bunch, a new bunch has arrived! It's not normal, it SHOULD check when the current attacking squad is dead and THEN start a timer, maybe with less time to wait. Otherwise, you should use cheats or somehow know it before.
    • However, when you manage to break through the constant onslaught and exploit closing/opening Tyr Hand Keep gates (AI closes them if your unit is nearby, sometimes), you can build an expansion and properly macro from there.
    • This mission was so frustrating for me, but I managed to complete it on the first try.
  • Mission "The Lost Isles" is a pure joke and here's why:
    • You have 2 base enemies: dark blue and purple, right?
    • You can chill. Yes, just chill - Dark Blue will sometimes harass you with Stormreaver warlocks and a bunch of stuff, while Purple will use useless Goblin Flyers most of the time. He attacked me with his units ONLY TWICE. He ignored his dying ally and stuck on his isle, waiting for my dreadnoughts to burn him down at the coastline.
    • Bossfight is interesting, however, I think that Chogall should cast quicker on Hard Difficulty his stomps and create 2 Orbs / Cultists at the same time. Such a small change, but it will increase difficulty a lot. And his last phase lacks something... Maybe some berserk timer like WoW boss?

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Don't think that I'm just hating you, please don't! I'm enjoying the campaign myself and blaming Blizzard for not fixing reforged lag with had models. The voice lines are pretty good, the cinematics are good, and the overall gameplay is good!
But difficulty hiking is bad.

 

[rcshaggy]

Oh and I kinda know those links work right, since I see this for the Campaign missions now...
Just have to replay the missions and get to where I last was, and do some more...

 

[Tamplier]

Would I have to update my Asset pack and the Installer too for the new patch fixes?

only the campaign file need to be updated this time

 

[rcshaggy]

only the campaign file need to be updated this time

Thank you and yeah...
Just like I said earlier I will play to get where I left off, and go from there.

 

[t1000mutalisk]

Just got the new patch, and....Rend is still not showing up in Act IV

 

[tj66]

Hi guys. The asset links aren't working, main + mirror. It brings you to the 'wetransfer' general page.

 

[ShadiHD]

Just got the new patch, and....Rend is still not showing up in Act IV

restart from mission 9

 

[Vyldaen]

Hi everyone! It fills my heart to see this game come to life and see that there is a real community for wc2, even for people who have not played the original. WC2 is a game I grew up with so this was something I went into excited and nervous for. So far without having completed the campaign this game is beyond amazing and I can not wait for the next part (human campaign) already.

With that said I have seen the hot fix updates but I must confess I am having a hard time updating it. I thought at first like most people it was a simple hot fix download and after looking for some time I thought maybe I gotta download the game again since it said "updated on x date". So I did that yesterday, I deleted all the files and re downloaded the whole thing just in case. Somehow I did NOT lose my progress in game, however...no updates occured. Dal Rend is still missing from the mission against gul'dan and Cho'gal. If there is something I am missing please let me know and I am more than willing to do it. I love this campaign and truly can not wait to continue and replay.

Thank you to the team for really putting your hearts into this making such an amazing game and re-telling of a classic warcraft story.

 

[CodeKiller]

Installation guide is wrong.
The installer is provided WITH the asset... Meaning you don't need to download it again. (no FTTH = big waste of time, for me it was 20 sec but still...)
Reboot... Yeah of course... just to run a game I will reboot the whole computer...