Charmander

[Moderator]

01:11, 23rd Jun 2009
BlinkBoy: You did a nice job this time. The model fits well into wc3. I find it very appealing. However, animations don't truely blend, some attacks don't start and end on stand ready, and it looks kinda weird. Also Death lacks motion. I'll approve this, yet, try improving it a bit more.

 

[HappyCockroach]

Charmander

Give me credits for making this model!

It is squished. In Import Manager it will show as 67KB model, but the truth is that the size consumed is around 24KB.

Visit my Pokémon Model Gallery

 

[kimpakim7]

Another awesome model! You're so creative with all theese in-game textures

 

[HFR]

Ok, tested it a lil' bit, review time:

[+] The ingame skin is good, more realistic, better than those plain textures that the pokemon models generally use.

[+] Some animations are ok too.

[+] The size is a very good point. Perfect for those who make big pokemon maps (like us).

[+ -] Some animations are choppy.

[+] In some animations (like the attacks and stand ready), his eyes change to a "horizontal-egg form", like it were doped or drunk.

[-] The UV wrapping at the belly line needs serious works.

Overall, a good model, with a decent use of ingame texture and a very good size. But some erros at the animations and the bad UV wrapping at the belly line ruin a big part of it.

My rating is 2/5, with the current "bugs". Fix those and it mighty increase.

 

[HappyCockroach]

The eye becomes like that because he is angry. Also, in his anger the tail's fire becomes bigger.
The 'choppy' anims appear in other viewers like magos, they run smoothly in-game.
The belly line would need too much work to be fixed, it is already rigged and animated. There are bigger priorities, I say.
2/10 ? Damn, I though the model was ok.

 

[HFR]

Sorry, my mistake >_>

I didn't tested it ingame. I'll test it when I'll terrain the map.

Ok, the belly line is hard to fix, but say this to a mod. He/she'll say that, even it requires blood, it has to be done.

 

[HappyCockroach]

In addition, the particle system is completely messed up in Magos, you should see it in-game, since it is oriented upwards and magos does not support this.


Overall, you can judge models using magos, but the reviews aren't 100% accurate ;P
(Don't reply to this one please)

 

[Yixx]

Omg,, i so lol'ed at the walk anim xD,, it looks really funny. Good job on this one again!

 

[Devine]

judgin from the screenshot ... why does his head have another color? also ... charmander doesn't have scales D:

 

[HappyCockroach]

The other charmander you'll see are damn plain-colored, what doesn't fir war3 at all. I just gave him my style and an in-game texture to save filesize.

 

[Zerox]

Awesome I'm glad you finished him. But due to looking more Dino than Charmander I declare him PREHISTORIC CHARMANDER! Creative name huh?

It does look nice though. But as you've said it sure does have a more wc3 look to it. xD

 

[HappyCockroach]

Cretive indeed..
It was supposed to look exactly like that. =P

 

[Gyrosphinx]

So cute eyes...

Love it

 

[BlinkBoy]

why is the people here such a big arses when judging? This shit is better than most of the crap I see submitted here. this deserve a rate bewtween 3 and 5. A very good addaptation for wc3. Too bad morons here rate a model according to "if the model is useful or not".

 

[HappyCockroach]

Actually they rate about "Is the model exactly the same as the cartoon", including:
- Plain textures
- Some impossible things to do...
The thing is that 2/5 = Lacking. And it does lack stuff, like most of the models.

But thanks for the feedback, and yes, I'll improve it. I thought that the 'Blend Time' got rid of all animations that would'nt end at the same position...I'll change the ones that need change.
I'm agree with you about the death animation. I just tried to repeat an excellent anim I made in an humanoid model and I failed.. xD ...actually the death anim is one of the reasons why this model is tagged 'Barney'. lol
The attack animations look weird mostly because of the blending problem? Or they actually look weird themselves?


Thanks blinkboy =D

 

[ikillforeyou]

I rate this:
[Rating by ikillforeyou]
+.5 for animation clearness.
+1 for being original
+2 for small filesize with a custom texture
+1.5 for being damn cute and functional

-.3 for messy wrapping on the back/side
-.35 for no hero glow for a hero
-.35 for not mentioning that this is a hero

That equals 4/5, good job.

If you have problems with my review ask me, i personally like this better then most other "Cartoon" models on the hive. +Rep for over 3/5

 

[hackterm]

one of the best pokemon models created 5/5

 

[hackterm]

i was waiting for models like that good job

 

[gunggang777]

this is very cute ! nice +rep

 

[krisserz]

Heh nice!

 

[tee.dubs]

tasty

 

[TheGodOfIron]

The model looks okay, you need to improve on the animation, kinda stiff.

 

[Darkxs]

Looks nice HC good to see that you recolored the eyes

 

[HappyCockroach]

I didn't recolor it at all. 0.0

 

[CloudMax]

God damn, this requires more then a 2/5
If a modeler that everyone knows uploads a green piece of slime, it gets a 5 becouse it was made by "that guy" and it looks wierd.
But when people actually try to make something useful, people throw away low rating and say whats wrong.
I dont get it.. seriusly. i give it a 4/5 :]

 

[Narandza]

Can someone reskin it to be a... to be... a creature or a pet in some maps?

 

[Zerox]

Can someone reskin it to be a... to be... a creature or a pet in some maps?

That would depend. Some people would already say he's a creature and a pet. XD

 

[HappyCockroach]

Can someone reskin it to be a... to be... a creature or a pet in some maps?

You meant for the eyes? Maybe I do another eye texture to it... =P
In addition, you can change the texture via MDL editing to use the Purple thunder lizard (vizir) or the green thunder lizard, it won't resemble a charmander.
Not to mention about deleting the particle system via the Node Manager in magos, so it looks like a dinosaur whelp.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

you know the "angry" eye thing? dont do it. looks nothing like being angry so just get rid of it. it just looks like its changing eyeball size which is kinda freaky
other than that, like your other models, i love it ^_^

 

[NomarX]

Whoah. Love the textures! You are just great at these types of models! And i for one think the animations are pretty smooth. Everything from the fire to the eyes are great! Overall this is a solid model! 5/5

 

[Neogecko]

wh isnt he "just" orange? i don't realy understand why he is Orange/darkred

 

[togera90]

well it has the whole charmander body like...but to me it looks like its a statue to rockish looking and the skin isnt really a charmander look if you were going with a cartoon version if not then its 4/5 just need to make it not look like a rockish statue

 

[HappyCockroach]

wh isnt he "just" orange? i don't realy understand why he is Orange/darkred

well it has the whole charmander body like...but to me it looks like its a statue to rockish looking and the skin isnt really a charmander look if you were going with a cartoon version if not then its 4/5 just need to make it not look like a rockish statue

I knew I should face comments like this. This is not Charmander from Pokemon then, ok? It's just a model FOR WARCRAFT III. thank you.

 

[Yixx]

Happy Chanoeka to you too
This pokemon is made for our Project, Pokemon RPG,
We have made a decision, which is that we use/make models that fit Warcraft III, AND pokemon, not only Pokemon.

That is your explanation,,

 

[thedeathunterxx]

HEHEHE

POKEEMANNZZZ !!!

8 /10 for choppy animation , but WTFC ! =)

 

[kikicamkd]

Can some1 tell me how can i open tool for animation?

 

[krisserz]

[/b] you forgot

 

[Jimnaboo]

Your use of in-game textures makes me so happy that I may die. Also: please team up with an animator. I'm sure you can find a decent one in the forms who would be thrilled to slap his name on a beautiful model like this - assuming you're okay with sharing. +rep
(3/5)

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

Can some1 tell me how can i open tool for animation?

dont be so rude. this is a model section where we critque and praise models.

back to the model - i hate flat anime texture so well done using such a suitable ingame texture.

 

[PrisonLove]

The model would be incredible if the texture looked correct. Right now he looks like volcano-camo charmander. Make his body orange-red, with the light orange for his stomach like he has in the game, and this will be a great model.

 

[Wazzz]

Ok, tested it a lil' bit, review time:

[+] The ingame skin is good, more realistic, better than those plain textures that the pokemon models generally use.

[+] Some animations are ok too.

[+] The size is a very good point. Perfect for those who make big pokemon maps (like us).

[+ -] Some animations are choppy.

[+] In some animations (like the attacks and stand ready), his eyes change to a "horizontal-egg form", like it were doped or drunk.

[-] The UV wrapping at the belly line needs serious works.

Overall, a good model, with a decent use of ingame texture and a very good size. But some erros at the animations and the bad UV wrapping at the belly line ruin a big part of it.

My rating is 2/5, with the current "bugs". Fix those and it mighty increase.

Um... you come up with 1 bad thing, 1 neutral thing and a whole bunch of good things, yet you only give it a 2? Sounds kinda... what's the word... oh, I'm sure someone else is thinking it right now by any chance
But srsly, you come up with 1 bad thing, so why isn't it useful? I actually don't think it's lacking in any respect, but I haven't tested it ingame yet.

Glad we discussed using the Salamander textures, BTW

 

[ike_ike]

Is everyone in this place blind, or what?

Lovely model, HC. The skin is GREAT. As opposed to being a flat monochrome piece of craaaaaap, it actually looks decent in Warcraft terrain and whatever. The animations aren't remotely as bad as everyone else makes them out to be, too.


...

And I still can't see this UV map problem on the belly.

 

[Dusanak]

I agree with Wazzz.
And ike ike I think like you, that model is great! Good work.

 

[BanananaHead]

I like how you used the in-game textures, and the pretty small file size. This is obviously expertly done and deserves +REP for all the effort and hard work put into this. But what I'm seeing is a pattern, and that pattern is that people who have negative rep, are usually the ones who have joined recently, I'm not saying new members are bad, but it's not like the world itself is getting better either =\
What I absolutely like about the model, are the unit's eyes, not just the portrait, I love how you did they eye and you aren't even know for anime-type models. This is obviously a great example of excellent modeling, and good use of in-game Textures...5/5!
But what could be done...(well what I see in your snap-shot...My comp's acting really crappy... and if I were to download one more file...My comp would prolly crash! >_<)...is a small clean-up of the textures because (it's really good!...but...) I see stripes on Charmander's back, which I'm sure isn't there in the show/video games. And also, the claws... pokemon that are supposed to be obtained at a low level, are supposed to look somewhat "cute" like all of the beginning pokemon, and there's nothing cute about the model's claws (just a suggestion...) maybe remove the points? If I can recall...Charmander doesn't have points on the tips of his claws...but I don't really know, I haven't seen what Charmander really looks like for a long time.
Anyways, after this long post I will say again: This is an excellent example of good use of textures, and good modeling skills found here only on THW, all of the modelers here are proof that THW has some of the highest quality ones around, not saying that any others are bad, but we have a lot of the good ones, good work HappyCockroach, and expect some reputation

 

[a7xpwns3]

So I herd you liek mudki... Oshi- it charmander!

MAke a mudkip next so I can make a cinematic version of teh epic "so i herd you liek mudkipz"

 

[HFR]

Um... you come up with 1 bad thing, 1 neutral thing and a whole bunch of good things, yet you only give it a 2? Sounds kinda... what's the word... oh, I'm sure someone else is thinking it right now by any chance
But srsly, you come up with 1 bad thing, so why isn't it useful? I actually don't think it's lacking in any respect, but I haven't tested it ingame yet.

Glad we discussed using the Salamander textures, BTW

I just like to be harsh. And the belly line needs a good fix!

 

[alem]

cool!!

 

[kikicamkd]

Really GOOD but i cant see it in W3!

 

[Wisdomsage]

Looking at the screenshot, i really like the scale texture everywhere but the head. It looks kind of wierd to me, like he has hair or something. Other than that pretty darn good. unofficial 4/5