Useful Survival Systems v. 2.0

[Moderator]

12th Dec 2015
IcemanBo: Too long as NeedsFix. Rejected.

15:23, 20 Oct, 2012
Magtheridon96:

There's some room for improvement:
- You can cache things like (Triggering unit) and (Owner of (Triggering unit)) instead of repeating them more than once because function calls in this game are pretty slow :/
- Instead of having like 12 events for each trigger involved in commands, you can iterate from 1 to 12 on map initialization and add the events to the triggers yourself.
This way, you avoid generating 12 lines of code for event registration for each trigger, but instead, just 6-8 for all the command triggers combined
- If a dummy unit (or any other unit that must have it's death-type set to "Can't raise, does not decay") is given an expiration timer, the unit will not be totally removed from the game, so you're going to have to add one extra trigger that runs upon unit-death. This trigger would check if the type of the unit is equal to the dummy-type that you're using here, and then it would remove it from the game.

 

[Aspard]

12/10? Inventory flooded then?
Give me an appropriate example, where this can be used instead of another bag system and I won't vote for rejection.

 

[baassee]

Gosh Aspard is back!

On topic

Store the plyer number as a temp integer and use it in the array to increase effienecty drfhdfhdj

 

[tjordell]

12/10? Inventory flooded then?
Give me an appropriate example, where this can be used instead of another bag system and I won't vote for rejection.

In example, survivals. I will update the spell as much as i can and work with it really often =)

 

[Aspard]

Gosh Aspard is back!

Ha-ha! Fear of me, mortals!

drfhdfhdj

Cool word, for what does it stand for?

In example, survivals. I will update the spell as much as i can and work with it really often =)

I pretty understand in which kind of map I can use this system. The question was: Why should I prefer this to another? Especially with possibility to pick up 12/10 units and not MUI?

 

[tjordell]

Gosh Aspard is back!

On topic

Store the plyer number as a temp integer and use it in the array to increase effienecty drfhdfhdj

Yes ofc =)

 

[baassee]

Cool word, for what does it stand for?

well as I couldnt spell the word infront of it, I lacked of patience and hit some random keys. Call it rage if you want, I wouldn't disagree

 

[MortAr]

Back.. wait what?
You made a system that has been already invented into the game.. ?

And, what if my lumbers or stones becomes greater than 100 ? You can't track the levels of the ability after that, 'cause the maximum possible level-value is 100 .. ?

Unefficient and I don't see how this is going to be used by anyone, since its clearly useless.. (or at least for me)

Also, the way you construct the structures is awful, I mean I would need a thousands of ITE functions to make like 10 buildings to be built with this "system" ..

 

[tjordell]

Backpack system? Oh come on, im tired of this.
Someone delete it.

Wtf? It's not only a backpack system.
I did this system most for peoples that are creating Survival maps. It's useful in that kind of maps.

MortAr Everyone have rights to upload a system here if it follows the rules.

Back.. wait what?
You made a system that has been already invented into the game.. ?

And, what if my lumbers or stones becomes greater than 100 ? You can't track the levels of the ability after that, 'cause the maximum possible level-value is 100 .. ?

Too unefficient and I don't see how this is going to be used by anyone, since its clearly useless.. (or at least for me)

I did a combo. To show the downloaders!

 

[Aspard]

well as I couldnt spell the word infront of it, I lacked of patience and hit some random keys. Call it rage if you want, I wouldn't disagree

Great, here is your personal "Meter of Rage":
[||||||||]

Be patient, dude! You are running out of petience! Do you want to get negrepped and become "Evil servant"? I saw one today looking through Contest Depositery. He had about -50 rep and 4 red gems And it was written "*** decided to join the evil force" ))

 

[tjordell]

Back.. wait what?
You made a system that has been already invented into the game.. ?

And, what if my lumbers or stones becomes greater than 100 ? You can't track the levels of the ability after that, 'cause the maximum possible level-value is 100 .. ?

Unefficient and I don't see how this is going to be used by anyone, since its clearly useless.. (or at least for me)

Also, the way you construct the structures is awful, I mean I would need a thousands of ITE functions to make like 10 buildings to be built with this "system" ..

So? That will not cause any lag or crashes? And as it seems that you don't know is that there are people who like to make STABLE maps. With that i mean that the highest cap of lumber/stone is 10 or a bit more. Stable maps are much fun than maps like "EPIC MEGA LVL 99999999 HUGE MAP!".

 

[MortAr]

Whatever. Im leaving it to the mods.

 

[tjordell]

Do so.

 

[Aspard]

So? That will not cause any lag or crashes? And as it seems that you don't know is that there are people who like to make STABLE maps. With that i mean that the highest cap of lumber/stone is 10 or a bit more. Stable maps are much fun than maps like "EPIC MEGA LVL 99999999 HUGE MAP!".

Explain me then, when I collect all this stuff quickly I reach the number of 12/10 lumber and stone. Is that possible, how do you think? And! When I try to collect more - they spam my six inventory slots. Let's look - overall there 18/10 lumber or stone. Are you still sure your system isn't buggy?

 

[Kingz]

Hmm, shouldn't you be able to save any number you wish in a hashtable instead of using ability levels?

Just an opinion.

EDIT:

I suggest you to not show the resources as you do them now.
You should just make the ability you activate show the resource number tied to that ability.

Also this is good if you want to implement custom resources i guess.

 

[tjordell]

Hmm, shouldn't you be able to save any number you wish in a hashtable instead of using ability levels?

Just an opinion.

EDIT:

I suggest you to not show the resources as you do them now.
You should just make the ability you activate show the resource number tied to that ability.

Also this is good if you want to implement custom resources i guess.

Thanks Kingz. I'll do that. +rep and credits for you'r suggests =)

 

[tjordell]

bump

Info for bumping: Have updated my system.

EDIT: Added this above =)

 

[Aspard]

bump

Ehem... You are violating two HW rules:

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Not an offence, but, please, read rules ^^

 

[tjordell]

Ehem... You are violating two HW rules:

Thread Bumping

Thread Bumping

Hive Workshop users are permitted to bump their own threads.
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Double Posting

Please do not double post in threads or make two of the same thread. We have an edit button for a reason, if you accidently double posted/threaded, please delete it before we do.

Not an offence, but, please, read rules ^^

Sorry =) Whon't repeat that =)

 

[Aspard]

I still insisit on your reading rules - there are many different interesting positions here

 

[tjordell]

I still insisit on your reading rules - there are many different interesting positions here

I've bumped this but it whont get to the top of the spells section... =(

 

[Aspard]

I've bumped this but it whont get to the top of the spells section... =(

Yes, it won't. Anyway, moderators check the spells (as for me) in random order, so bumping will lead to nothing.

In order to really bump your system, you should wait about a week and then Update the file with a new one.

 

[Midnighters]

Whatever. Im leaving it to the mods.

Good idea.

Great, here is your personal "Meter of Rage":
[||||||||]

Be patient, dude! You are running out of petience! Do you want to get negrepped and become "Evil servant"? I saw one today looking through Contest Depositery. He had about -50 rep and 4 red gems And it was written "*** decided to join the evil force" ))

You do not have to sit on this thread and cause him to get frustrated, I asked him to make the system and he did as I asked.

Ehem... You are violating two HW rules:

Thread Bumping

Thread Bumping

Hive Workshop users are permitted to bump their own threads.
Threads bumps must include new details and / or information, not just simply a word or vague comment.
Threads cannot be bumped within 48 hours of the most recent post.
Posts that violate these rules may be deleted by moderators without warning.
Threads that consistently violate these rules may be closed after the author has been warned.

Double Posting

Please do not double post in threads or make two of the same thread. We have an edit button for a reason, if you accidently double posted/threaded, please delete it before we do.

Not an offence, but, please, read rules ^^

He did not double post, and he was telling he updated the system, therefore, he technically did not break a rule.

 

[Aspard]

Man, read topic first, please! ^^

You do not have to sit on this thread and cause him to get frustrated, I asked him to make the system and he did as I asked.

That was post to Baassee, not thread-starter!

He did not double post, and he was telling he updated the system, therefore, he technically did not break a rule.

He DID double-post and for me message containing only one word "Bump!" isn't telling about any kind of update. The second part has been added after my post just in case of making the post "not rule breaking", got it?

Anyway, he accepted he was wrong, why are you trying to be a lawyer?

And the fact that this system has been done for you doesn't let both of you right to upload bugging stuff to the community and telling us to leave the thread cause it's not for us. If it wouldn't be for whole community, you could share this using e-mail / pastebin.

 

[tjordell]

Aspard, You're have a chat here with baassee, this is a thread for my system. Not for you and him to CHAT!?! There is an button named "Chat" in the top left corner on this site. Try it =)
And that you're posting to him is useless s***load of crap! I don't want it to be in this thread! DO I NEED TO ADD A BIG RED TEXT IN THE THREAD THAT READS: DO NOT POST S***LOADS OF CRAP HERE! THANKS!
Do i really need to do that? Is that really necessary?

 

[Aspard]

We stopped chatting at the middle of the previous page, what are you talking about?

 

[Midnighters]

Man, read topic first, please! ^^



That was post to Baassee, not thread-starter!



He DID double-post and for me message containing only one word "Bump!" isn't telling about any kind of update. The second part has been added after my post just in case of making the post "not rule breaking", got it?

Anyway, he accepted he was wrong, why are you trying to be a lawyer?

And the fact that this system has been done for you doesn't let both of you right to upload bugging stuff to the community and telling us to leave the thread cause it's not for us. If it wouldn't be for whole community, you could share this using e-mail / pastebin.

Whether he did double post or not you still shouldn't be disrespectful.

As for not having the right to upload, well, I see differently, it is uploaded to get constructive critique, not flaming from someone that thinks they are better then everyone. You should be giving him credit for trying, and be giving him tips to improve, rather then telling him it is unworthy of being uploaded.

I am not trying to be a lawyer, but you are in the wrong in what you are saying, and if you are not told, you will simply continue to do as you are.

And yes, please stay on topic and use the chatroom for unneeded chat.

 

[tjordell]

So? Are the threads really for chatting? Check if that is in the rules also =) I would laught my a*s off if it this would be there: "The Threads are ONLY for chatting =)"

EDIT: Let's just stop flaming to eachother. You let me be (also this thread if you seem it strenuous) and i let you be. =)

 

[Aspard]

I still can't get the idea of your offending me, I didn't tell a single bad word in tjordell's address, just informed him, that he was breaking the rules.

Using your own words: "If he is not told, he will simply continue to do as he does".

That's all.

I have nothing against this thread or tjordell, that was Mortar- who asked for the thread delete, not me.

 

[Midnighters]

I still can't get the idea of your offending me, I didn't tell a single bad word in tjordell's address, just informed him, that he was breaking the rules.

Using your own words: "If he is not told, he will simply continue to do as he does".

That's all.

That was directed towards you, and in light of what you said, maybe you should let a moderator tell him. You have no power over what he does.

 

[Kingz]

He DID double-post and for me message containing only one word "Bump!" isn't telling about any kind of update. The second part has been added after my post just in case of making the post "not rule breaking", got it?

Wrong.

Double posting is when you post offtopic(unrelated) posts about something, bumps DON'T need to have a "Bump" word for them in order to be a bump nor are they required to have anything except "Bump".
If he provided an updated version he has a right to make a new post notifying everyone that the resource has been updated or simply to bring his post up(bump in short).

Hope this clears up the whole confusion that is going around here.

 

[tjordell]

Wrong.

Double posting is when you post offtopic(unrelated) posts about something, bumps DON'T need to have a "Bump" word for them in order to be a bump nor are they required to have anything except "Bump".
If he provided an updated version he has a right to make a new post notifying everyone that the resource has been updated or simply to bring his post up(bump in short).

Hope this clears up the whole confusion that is going around here.

Thanks =D

 

[tjordell]

Aspard, Stop caring about that now. Just move on. Give me any tips about what i can improve and what i can also create.

Everyone, Plz tell me something more to do. Or atleast a new spell/system you want to be created =)

 

[Aspard]

Everyone, Plz tell me something more to do. Or atleast a new spell/system you want to be created =)

Yeah, inventing something new is really difficult... What about some poison spells? Check baassee's ones, try to imagine something new. That would be really cool

Well, let's talk about your system:
1) I can't build buildings! It always shows me that the place is already taken! Anyway, where I go...
2) I can suggest that the previous one floating text should disappear before the appearance of the second one. Sometimes it's difficult to understand how many exactly resources you got and these numbers covering each other spoils the view of the system
3) You'd better make resources showing by using a type-in command than a skill. That would be better, if you don't reserve another one button from skills panel for such a common thing
4) You should make your system to work so that it can be simply copy-pasted. Avoid using (Type of unit not equal to (Test Hero)) - what if there are about fifty units on the map with such an ability?

Also there is a bit problem, that you should make a seperate trigger for each kind of counstruction. ;(

 

[tjordell]

4) You should make your system to work so that it can be simply copy-pasted. Avoid using (Type of unit not equal to (Test Hero)) - what if there are about fifty units on the map with such an ability?

Also there is a bit problem, that you should make a seperate trigger for each kind of counstruction. ;(

I've solved that problem =)
And the test hero thing is for the map only. Not in the trigger they're going to copy paste ^^.

 

[Kanadaj]

This is crappy... If I want something like that I make it WITH multiboard system, so I don't ahve to always write that crappy -resource, which is everything but user-friendly thing... Resources MUST be visible without chat commands... Also it's not so hard to make my own, even without deep knowledge of the game's system (like JASS or whatever), but users can better see what they did than pasting your script in their map -.-

 

[tjordell]

Ok, then i'll try to make a Multiboard also, some ppls want to have with commands cuz the Multiboards will be for score or something like that, i'll also create a system like; when a player types "-showresources" or "-sr" the resources will be shown' in the multiboard and when the players types "-hideresources" or "-hr" the resources will be removed from the multiboard. How does that sounds? =)

 

[Kanadaj]

Not that bad... But to be honest, those ppl who can implement a system liek this correectly into their map and make the buildings and etc. work, they'll know how to make their own system, coz it's an easy-to-make system xD

 

[tjordell]

Well i'm working really hard to make this work. It's good you're pointing things, then i can improve more and more. Thanks kanadaj. =)

 

[Br3akth3w1nd]

Nice, just what I needed. You should make a sell button/command tho.

 

[tjordell]

Br3akth3w1nd, how do you mean? A sell spell for the Building? Thanks for commenting =) I'll improve =)

 

[Sporling]

Thanks for the nice system! I just love Survival games! just need some help to add more buildings^^

oh and Aspard, please shut up =)

Complete Translated to Germany see link below
Komplett übersetzt zu Deutsch siehe folgenden Link

 

[Br3akth3w1nd]

Br3akth3w1nd, how do you mean? A sell spell for the Building? Thanks for commenting =) I'll improve =)

I mean an ability or a button to sell some of the gathered items. For example if the player needs gold more than lumber he could get some by selling some of the lumber with an ability, command or some kinda button.

 

[Septimus]

As for not having the right to upload, well, I see differently, it is uploaded to get constructive critique, not flaming from someone that thinks they are better then everyone. You should be giving him credit for trying, and be giving him tips to improve, rather then telling him it is unworthy of being uploaded.

You're obviously at wrong place. Read the spells rules.

Use
The spells section should not be used to get feedback or help on your coding--please use the Triggers and Scripts forum for that. It should also not be used to send spells to friends and then delete them--please use the Pastebin for that.

Spells section are for complete work. If it was confirm to have no bug during inspection and several positive opinion from experience user at forum, then only upload it at here. Why upload it right away without proper checking only to have it rejected sooner or later?

Wrong.

Double posting is when you post offtopic(unrelated) posts about something, bumps DON'T need to have a "Bump" word for them in order to be a bump nor are they required to have anything except "Bump".
If he provided an updated version he has a right to make a new post notifying everyone that the resource has been updated or simply to bring his post up(bump in short).

Hope this clears up the whole confusion that is going around here.

Unfortunately, bump does not work at resources section. If my memory serves me right, Ralle have some sort of rules about bumping at resources section (Got to ask him though).

(Unit-type of (Dying unit)) Equal to Test Hero

Instead of dying, change it to triggering.

As for the other problem, it already been mention by mod.

 

[tjordell]

The_Reborn_Evil, The Temp_Player is saved in hashtable and i change it in the other triggers. For me it haven't caused any errors. And i thought, for the location leak, that i dont needed to use a location variable for the location variable but i might be wrong.

EDIT: Septimus, I was unsure from the event. But i will fix that. Updating this night. And i will also add the system Br3akth3w1nd wanted.

EDIT: The_Reborn_Evil, I need the Temp_Player as it should be to make the whole MPI. Otherwise there's no way that it will be MPI if i dont use a For each loop in every trigger and that will make the system a bigger chance to lag.

 

[Noobsmoke]

i don't like it

 

[tjordell]

Good to know

 

[Noobsmoke]

it looks too simple ...

 

[Statharas]

Wrong.

Double posting is when you post offtopic(unrelated) posts about something, bumps DON'T need to have a "Bump" word for them in order to be a bump nor are they required to have anything except "Bump".
If he provided an updated version he has a right to make a new post notifying everyone that the resource has been updated or simply to bring his post up(bump in short).

Hope this clears up the whole confusion that is going around here.

Maybe you should read the rules before you disagree with them.

Rules

Thread Bumping
"To bump a thread on an Internet forum is to post a reply to it purely in order to raise the thread's profile. This will typically return it to the top of the list of active threads." »Source and complete details here«

1. Hive Workshop users are permitted to bump their own threads.
2. Threads bumps must include new details and / or information, not just simply a word or vague comment.
3. Threads cannot be bumped within 48 hours of the most recent post.
4. Posts that violate these rules may be deleted by moderators without warning.
5. Threads that consistently violate these rules may be closed after the author has been warned.

Double Posting / Double Threading

Please do not double post in threads or make two of the same thread. We have an edit button for a reason, if you accidently double posted/threaded, please delete it before we do.

It clearly states that he must not "BUMP" the thread/resource/whatever with a single word without a serious reason to, which only includes updating threads or reviving old threads, which is neither.

Double posting HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OFF-TOPIC. I mean, it clearly says it, DOUBLE POST. Posting a reply under your reply.



As for the system, I believe its useless, as it doesn't do anything that's not possible with a simple gui trigger for each.

Revive? There's a gui for that.
Boards? There's a gui for that.
Items? There's a gui for that.