Zwiebelchen

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I've responded to your message...pizza boxes? Really!? our pizza boxes are pretty small, where do you live that it can operate as a bin?

I have my theories on how it works. I can only guess and say for the black out and brain reset

that it is simular to the choking game. during which the supply of blood Is cut off from the brain, causing the brain to be flooded with oxygen when the supply is returned to normal. however instead of cutting the supply off, I just increase the oxygen supply. how this causes a blackout or rejuvenative effect....who knows. I'm sure most of these odd things have no real explanation.

I think you may be right about the stopping of the heart though. I've tried stopping my heart in hospital when I'm hooked up to the machines. it never works. yet when I try it at home on my blood pressure and heart beat machine, it shows my heart has stopped and my blood pressure has gone up. it's a pretty lame super power anyway. I'm glad I can be so open about it regardless.

what is your secret Zwiebelchen?

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Ok, I will change the theme to be more like an ambient music.
Aaaand, they all are different than midi sounds

Like you want a smoother music?

What do you mean?

Hey! Remember a request you did on the Music workshop? Well, here's a WIP, to see if you like it or not :P

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=0qk285

Now, I reliase you're the famus map cretor

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Hmmmm, so maybe I can't actually finish it yesterday nor today. Had an important appointment earlier. I'll just send the map when its done around this week.

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Hmmm, am I missing something?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/211785-albums5481-picture101082.html

Gotcha, can't wait to work on Gaias again.

Hi, Zwie! I'm very sorry for being gone for a long time without messaging you. I was very busy this past few months that I did not have enough time to visit hive and do anything for Warcraft 3 in particular. I currently have a one month vacation although I can see the half of it to be spent on other stuffs that I'd missed(games, shows, etc) but I'm willing to work on Gaias again(I missed working on world editor so much). I can see myself having a lot of progress done on 2-2.5 weeks of terraining without rl stuff interruptions. Just tell me if the last terrain map that I had is still the one I'm gonna be working on since I already had some small stuffs done there but if there is a new version of the map that you want me to work with its fine, it shouldn't be that hard to replicate the stuffs I already made on the last map.

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(Post) Effective solutions

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(Post) wow, and I thought that that's not possible anymore. geej

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(Post) Haha! Same here

Hello Zwiebel, would one terrain be enough to judge my Terrain Skills? Im a big fan of your map and it would be awesome to work for the map.

Could you take a look at this? I'd appreciate your input, as your threat system is essentially for AI as well.

I See you are Online.

- How is the Music?

Your Request has been Done. Please comment on it ^^

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(Post) They are indeed Under Pressure

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If you still take request; then I could need several tracks for ambient music for a snowy mountain terrain.
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1. Hey, I remember that in Gaia.
2. I can take that Request if NightStalker Couldn't. Just Saying. Do you have any Problems with it?

Fair enough. Sometimes you just have agree to disagree I guess. I respect that you call it now instead of both of us spending dozens of posts going in circles saying the same things.
I'll definately read that article you posted. It's always good to see things from the other side's perspective.

Anyway, good talk! I enjoy these discussions with you because they are kept civil. It's not often one is able to discuss such a controversial subject without unpleasant adjectives getting thrown around.

And yeah, people throwing around trash like that are indeed assholes.

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And why would you think letting everyone in would destroy anything? Let's consider a fact here: as an EU citizen, be it greece, portugal, spain, poland, czech or whatever country, you are free to go in any other EU country. Permanently. No questions asked. Why is it that we don't see millions of immigrants of these countries here? Some of those countries are on the edge of bankruptcy. There is no denying that the life standard in germany is way higher than in our neighbouring country poland. Why is it that we don't have millions of polish people here, even if they are free to come and stay here at any time? It's because they aren't willing to give up their former life, even if it might result in some improvement.
The point is: Refugees aren't here to get a better life. They are here to survive a war. A war that we (as industry nations) are responsible for. We make billions of dollars in weapon exports to exactly those countries that demand shelter. Most of them are likely to go back after the war has ended. If not, they started families here. And then why would we force them to go back?

The first world countries have a responsibility here. The responsibility to apply the rules they preach to others to themselves aswell.
You know what my biggest gripe with the refugee problem is? That the UK, a developed industry nation bailed out of this responsibility. To me, the UK is the epitome of the problem the european union is facing. Instead of embracing a united europe, they seclude themselves from the rest and leave the burden to others. To me, the UK are nothing but uncivilized cowards. I hope denmark won't go the same route. I hope germany won't go the same route. We are wealthy. We can afford taking in a few thousand refugees.
Syria has only 20 million inhabitants. That's less than one quarter of germany alone. From those 20 million inhabitants, only 4 million actually emigrated from the country up until today.
These 4 millions spread out over the entire european union and the middle east. How much do you think actually make their way to the western european nations? How much do you think will stay in the neighbouring countries?
If anyone has the right to complain about refugees, it's those countries. Not us. We fucking buy new phones every two years. We can afford feeding a few refugees.
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We have already seen the effects of allowing mass immigration, Malmo as I just showed an example. We don't have a problem with EU country immigrants which just further proves my point that there is a fundamental problem here. Despite Greece being screwed right now, they are not the ones immigrating to Denmark and being over-represented in crime statistics. This further goes to show that this is a cultural issue more than anything else.

Honestly I don't buy the fact that the West is responsible for every bad thing in the world. It's getting old honestly. There's been problems in the Middle East for a long ass time. And while the West might have had some hand in the creation and arming of the problems there, things like ISIS are mainly a product of their own religion and culture. I'm tired of the countless of innocent people being killed in Islam's name being blamed on the West, instead of blaming the people doing the actual killing.
Even the Crusades that people love using as guilt-trips today were actually retaliations against hundreds of years of Islamic warfare.

Yeah, we might be able to afford taking in more people. But instead of paying with money, we'll be paying with the blood of innocent people we lose to the undeniable increase in crime. And that's not a price I'm willing to pay.

Indeed, there is no way to know beforehand. And that boils it down to where you and I are probably in disagreement; I don't think that living in Denmark is an inherent right that everyone is born with.
I believe in helping people, but if allowing mass immigration from these countries actually put other people at risk, that's where I draw the line.

It might be harsh, but the Dane born in Denmark has more right to be there than a refugee. So it makes sense that a refugee commiting such a harsh crime gets deported since he obviously has no plans of integrating properly into the society. The Dane is born there, where would you send him if not prison?
This is of course complicated by second generation immigrants who obviously can't be deported to a place they've never been. Technically they are as much a Dane as I am. In that case I would of course not support deportation.

If my brother was homeless I would offer him my home to live in; I wouldn't for a stranger. Being my family member has that privilege.
Now imagine that I DO offer my home to the homeless stranger and he in turn destroys my property. I would throw him out. I probably wouldn't with my brother. Because my brother has more right to be here than the stranger.
I know this is the kind of metaphors that people don't like so I hate to bring it up. But it does have some truth to it.

I disagree, the world would be a much better place with a murderer or a rapist in prison. I don't care much for forgiveness or even punishment. Having him/her locked up means that they aren't a danger to the people around them. Prison is all about the safety of the general population. For some reason many people make it all about the perps instead of the victims.

The unfortunate case you mentioned is not really a question of integration but rather discrimination. Which is of course still a problem some places. And this needs to be addressed obviously. I will point out that often the opposite will also happen because people are too scared of being politically incorrect. I remember a case of a train conductor not being willing to make an immigrant move from his seat (it was booked by someone else) in fear of being "racist".

Have no idea why I distinguished between rape and crime actually :P

And I'm not sure you know exactly how much immigration Sweden has had. Take Malmo for example. 40% of the population has a foreign background, with 30% being born outside of Sweden.
We have a lot of immigrants wanting to immigrate to Denmark going to Malmo because it's so close to Denmark and Sweden's immigration policies are much more lax than ours.
And now look at crime rate comparisons between Malmo and Copenhagen (1 hour away):

http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Denmark&country2=Sweden&city1=Copenhagen&city2=Malmo

Hell it even has higher crime rates than New York City:

http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Sweden&city1=New+York%2C+NY&city2=Malmo

Granted that site might not be 100% accurate, but it's something worth thinking about. And a quick google on Malmo crime will show you that it's not a very safe place to live.

Malmo's got big issues with violence and anti-semitism.

Again this all seems a bit too far fetched to be coincidences, especially considering the state of the countries these people come from.

Copy-and-paste of my message since we apparently can't discuss this in the thread :/


I agree. And I've never been an advocate for "throwing them out as fast as possible" but I do believe that there is huge integration problem. And I believe that while the system must take part of the blame for this, the majority of blame does lie with immigrants not being willing to integrate.

My mother had a collegue from Somalia who is a doctor like herself; he is a refugee and has a law-abiding family.
In school I had a classmate from the same country; he spent his sparetime getting into fights and telling us how he beat up a guy (stomping his face) for looking at his shoes. Also a refugee.
Both in the same situation. Both had the same rights and opportunities since coming to Denmark. The difference was in how they integrated. It wasn't a case of the system treating them differently but rather that my mothers' collegue chose to do something with his life, integrate and actually take advantage of the opportunity of a free education.
This is of course just an example taken from my own experience and doesn't reflect immigrants as a whole. But I think it reflects a big part of the integration problem. The choice whether or not to integrate from the immigrant.

I don't think throwing all of them out is the solution. But neither is ignoring the problem. I personally think our punishments for violent crimes in Denmark are way too soft. On average people get around 16 years of prison time for murder, and rape is much less. Harsher prison times would probably help scare off some of the bored second generation perpetrators.

In extreme cases (we had a case of an 11 year old girl being raped by a refugee a few years back) I think deportation is the right choice. I don't care if there's a war going on in his home country, he does not belong in a civilized society.

And you're right that the statistics I showed were for legal immigrants not refugees. But as I did point out many of the legal immigrants we have in Denmark were originally refugees or descendants of refugees. And yes the biggest problem is actually the descendants or second generation immigrants. And while you could say that the gap between classes could be a reason (it probably is, for some) I don't believe that it accounts for for 100% of the difference in violent crime rates. Rather I think it's mostly a cultural issue and one that needs to be addressed instead of sugar-coating it in fear of being called racist.

I'm a white Danish guy and I grew up less privileged than some of the second generation immigrants (obviously not all of them). Many of my immigrant classmates had Playstations and Xboxes growing up. My mother didn't start earning good money until I was already out of the house. My mom couldn't even afford a car back then.
Not trying to say that I had a bad childhood, I had a great childhood! And obviously I was extremely privileged compared to many parts of the world, because of free education and health care alone! Just saying that many of these "underprivileged" immigrants who turned to crime because of the "huge gap" between me and them actually had more money than I did as a child or at least as much as me.

You're probably right that much of the statistical difference in crime in Sweden is because of awareness and crimes being reported more often. But 300%? I think that's a stretch. 1975 is not that long ago. If we were talking 100 years I'd be more inclined to agree.
I think denying that the crime/rape rates has gone up is wishful thinking honestly.

The refugee camps is something that could be handled better I guess, but personally I don't have a solution for that. As I said the camps are for people who are applying for a residence permit or even people who's been denied one. What are we gonna do? Just open the borders and let everyone in? We've seen before that that doesn't work.


I guess we could open a thread in MT, but I'm worried a thread dedicated to this subject alone wouldn't stay clean very long.

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Lol =)

Hey Zwiebelchen, would you know how to fix the dummy mipmaps that crash a mac?

Hey zwiebelchen are you planning on switching to dota 2 reborn? I would love to play your creations on there

I moved GetCamOffset back to the submission section.

Hey Zwiebelchen, can I know where did you get the tall grass model from your ORPG Map?

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(Post) thanks for want to help

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(Post) We need more hardcore rpgs, get to work!

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(Post) Thanks a bunch dude.

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(Post) Nice from you

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(Post) hahahah oh man, I'll just not comment back about that XD

I was wrong there indeed, but that claim had nothing to do with the original post Anyway, anymore you feel i should know before we can end this discussion?

I do understand that thread's purpose, it was about following up on a rule change in the model section. I made a comment about it, where i immediately said, in the self same comment, that i had to change; not the rule. And apparently that was enough start a long winded discussion and waisting everybody's time. Good enough?

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XD sorry, I thought it was something different.

You're PlayAnimationForDoodadsInRect function.

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I actually played around with the PlayAnimationForDoodadsInRect function a lot for my external highres texture pack and noticed it's pretty damn well optimized. It's not like enumerating destructables or units at all!

I ended up using a single function with almost 200 consecutive PlayAnimation functions (as you don't have much choice... it's not a regular enumeration that allows a custom callback so I couldn't implement a lookup table) in a 50k doodad map and it only creates a barely noticable hickup.
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Can I use it?

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(Post) Great idea!