WW3: Nuclear Sunrise v1.34

[HFR]

Of course... But, with a good coder and a good system... well...

 

[Ham Ham]

Battalion system used in Godfall Chronicles wouldnt work on this map because it requires 1 computer player for each player. (Players only controls the captains, and troops are computer controled). Since this map is for 10 players, I would require more 10 player slots to make the armies
But, Tau Empire, did you told people to use "Load Nearest Infantry" to quickload infantry into APC/IFVs? That gradualy reduces the number of units to be controlled at same time.

I removed UI on version 1.02 because that medieval thing dont fits with a ww3 map. I calculate adding a Starcraft UI would increase the mapsize arround 100 to 200kb. Do you people agree with this?

HFR, I noticed they cant build hospitals because they dont have repair ability. I will fix this making their "race" as orc. Thanks for reporting. +rep

About massive armies problem, what about adding again generals? They can use an ability called "Full Scale Assault" that allows move all nearby units at same time, and one called "Cease Advance" that makes all units stop.

 

[HFR]

Well, generals can be very useful.

Also, why not add more veicles for some countries? Maybe Cascavel for Brazil and T-72 (weak support tank) for Mother Russia?

 

[Tau Empire]

Nah, it will probably lag the game badly once ordered, just create a squad, then a squad leader is selected to represent the squad, so it's managing more than 12 units.

 

[Tau Empire]

If he wants more vehicles I could just give him a big list lol, but you have to think the building is limited to 11 vehicles, because after 11 you can't see it.

 

[HFR]

Do not double post...

Ok, no more veicles...

And playing against only 1 or 2 computers is boring... You can do what you did at Gulf War:

- Make the AI build less units. Ok, the countries are now stronger and bigger, but with a lot of attacks, they can fall.

- Make the AI build PLANES! At least bombers or helicopters.

- Increase the cost of the units. This way, massing is hard to make.

- Make the AI capture the PoWs.

Also, add a "Load all PoWs" at the PoW Camps. It's annoying for a player to manually select the PoWs in the middle of a war. Even using the hotkey (P).

 

[Ham Ham]

HFR, AI fucks up in ww3 due the mapsize. AI is not good with Epic Sized maps. If you noticed, on Gulf, each AI sends like 40 units per attackwave and game dont lags (exept if you are playing with all 11 AI players)

I will try ordering AI to send helicopters on next version.

Well, EVERY vehicle factory has some vacant spaces. Something like 3 to 5. I would apreciate more vehicle suggestions. The only thing I dont want is more aircraft because Airfields are full.

HFR, Cascavels are not used in military operations anymore. It is a soo outdated vehicle. Urutu too, it canot stand against any contemporany combat vehicles (its better than cascavel by anyways), but brazilian army dont see any need to replace it (BLAME LULA!)

 

[HFR]

I don't remember the name, but a light armored veicle was used by the Brazilian Dictatorships in the "wars" against the rebels during the 60s. It was Cascavel? Then, it's really old

 

[Tau Empire]

Maybe you should add a list of vehicules in the game, cause I already forgot which are in it lol.

 

[Ham Ham]

Maybe you should add a list of vehicules in the game, cause I already forgot which are in it lol.

Well, you can browse them on the unprotected version I uploaded few posts ago. I would thank a lot if you could make a list of vehicles, and include in the tutorial how to best use them on every player (of course, dont tell every single tactic, because players are supposed to be creative in their tactics. If they have a list with all possibilities, game will not be fun)

 

[Tau Empire]

Brazil has everything since, like Ham says blame Lula lol.

North America
Ticonderoga class cruiser - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga_class_cruiser , what's fun about cruisers is that they have Tomahawk missiles lol.

Arleigh Burke class Destroyers -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer

Coyote Reconnaissance Vehicles- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_Reconnaissance_Vehicle

European Union
Leopard 2A6 (Think you already have it.)
Challenger 2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2

Japan
-Type 90 tanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_90

Russia (yaa )
T-95 Tanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-95

That's all I can find you might need to create some new ones.

 

[HFR]

How he can add T-95? It isn't even in service!

 

[Tau Empire]

The map is in the year 2011, and it suppost to be in service around 2010, so there you have it lol.

 

[HFR]

Oh right, but everyone knows almost nothing about it.

 

[Tau Empire]

You just have to imagine it, like Peter Pan lol.

It's supost to be a ''Super Tank'' cause it uses a 130mm cannon instead of the traditional 120mm.

 

[HFR]

Yeah, it can be even used ingame, but:

- I wonder which model you're gonna use.
- It's a super tank, but remember: the tank cannot be imba. As for example, here are the most powerful tanks:
1) Black Eagle: Highest attack and HP, but low range and very expensive.
2) Leopard 2A6: The highest HP and attack of all MBTs, but rather expensive and a lower range than most of others MBTs.
3) M1A2 Abrams: Decent ammount of HP and attack. Not so expensive, but not so cheap.

As Russia already have the best tank in the game, the T-95 must be at the third or fourth positions.

 

[Tau Empire]

Well think about this what was the main thing about the T- Series, firepower, and durability, besides it's not suppost to say if it's superior to the Black Eagle or not, if it was Soviet Russia then it would of just sucked lol.

 

[Ham Ham]

Well, best if I ignore T-90 and keep the Black Eagle. It wouldnt be good having 2 super tanks for russia.

Tau, I saved the ships you sent on my harddisk and will implement them latter. Any more suggestions?

 

[Tau Empire]

Ya the large hydron collider as a super weapon lol. Creates a mini black hole at a spot and all unit will take damage over time from it.

Funny suggestion.

 

[HFR]

Ok, moar suggestions:

Yesterday, I went to Black Eagle's page at wikipedia, and it says that the project was cancelled... Maybe replacing it with the T-95.

Also, can you give to me a unprotected 1,29 version? I want to add some ground paths between America and Africa/Europe, as the AI doesn't reach there...

 

[Angry_Bovine]

Just posting here to tell you that I will be playing the map with my local friends and post what I think, so that I may join upon your discussion!

 

[Ham Ham]

HFR, take a look on a few posts back and you may find the 1.29 unprotected version.

Angry_Bovine, well, I think you should wait for 1.30, wich will be very improved

 

[Tau Empire]

So Ham got a idea when it's gonna be released and is it gonna have the mini games we suggested?

 

[Ham Ham]

I want to release it soon as posible. Maybe tomorrow. I still dont worked on newer minigames because first of all I want to finish all techtree ballancing and units stuff, then keep the work going on minigames. Maybe I can add one more (the mad scientist with an Ion Cannnon)


BTW, I'll just rename Black Eagle as T-95 and remake his decritpion

 

[Tau Empire]

Did you add the one with the reward is a BFG? Cause everyone loves BFG's lol.

 

[Ham Ham]

Well, I can add on this one. BFG can be acquired inside the scientist base

 

[Angry_Bovine]

Angry_Bovine, well, I think you should wait for 1.30, wich will be very improved

Alright, I'll just wait till then

 

[pomelito123]

I want to release it soon as posible. Maybe tomorrow. I still dont worked on newer minigames because first of all I want to finish all techtree ballancing and units stuff, then keep the work going on minigames. Maybe I can add one more (the mad scientist with an Ion Cannnon)


BTW, I'll just rename Black Eagle as T-95 and remake his decritpion

Oh, tomorrow!!! i will just get it after school......
Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!! Mini-games!!!
maybe you can add one every releases....

 

[Tleno]

USA must steal stealth bomber's plans from USA in order to buy it from secret research center. Is that normal?
Also, UFO is too weak.

 

[Discohydra]

Who said a UFO would be stronger or weaker than human technology?
By todays standards, there is no way to balance a UFO in this game

 

[Tau Empire]

Other than the fact that UFO's has the technology to travel into space, while we're here with satellites only and we only reached Mars, with a drone.

O a funny thing: I've seen the new transformers movie, and the US destroyer has a railgun on it, would be sweet if there really was a railgun on this map.

 

[pomelito123]

O a funny thing: I've seen the new transformers movie, and the US destroyer has a railgun on it, would be sweet if there really was a railgun on this map.

Lol, Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen

 

[Angry_Bovine]

BTW, I'll just rename Black Eagle as T-95 and remake his decritpion

I sorta re-read this, and realized that Black Eagle's a really weird name for a Russian super-tank. Hah, that's probably the best way to fix it then.

 

[pomelito123]

Lol, Black "EAGLE" = A Super-Tank, lol really weird i also thought that black eagle is an aircraft.

 

[Ham Ham]

lol, I really forgot to rename Black Eagle
ok, i'll do this on next version.


Here is the update, but Im gonna add veterancy system for units and a few more units I forgot to add on this version.
This one still has lots of new things, including BFGs

Hey guys, what you think about the new image preview? Best than older one?

 

[pomelito123]

Lol, looks like zombie infection.....

Veterancy system looks like Heroes and Empires by I forgot the name(i really forgot the name)

okay testing it later i better go to school.....

EDIT: I still have 1 hour before school so i cant test it..... maybe later after school 7:40 P.M. Phil. time i will call my friends too to test it.

 

[Ham Ham]

ok, well, you can test it in solo while you cant play with your friends. just dont go get late for school

 

[pomelito123]

Lol, I want to test it in school during break but i forgot there are no War3 in school computers =DDD. maybe on Internet cafe outside of school before the class i'll just put it in the USB.

 

[vegetation]

Hey ham ham, i don't know what is the problem with that map but its way too laggy. I like the map but i can't play cause of the laggg can you try to fix that?

 

[Angry_Bovine]

Hah, you still have school? That's a bummer. I tested by myself and noticed several misspellings and a number of grammatical issues. I'll take the time to compile all of them some time, or revise them. I noticed at least one bug in game, the most pertinent being perhaps the fact that the Field Medic really doesn't do anything. She can't correctly build the Field Hospital (or whatever it's called) and she can't heal units. The hospital just sits at 80 hp and doesn't get built up, though it does exude a healing aura. I would either give her a "Build Tiny Structure" ability instead or you'd have to give her the ability to repair. Well, the other option is just to give her an actual healing ability (like in StarCraft) and remove the ability to build hospitals. (I mean, does it really make sense that a medic builds the hospital? I'd leave that task to the engineer.) That's all I had time to test before my laptop shut off due to running out of power. I'll go test some other systems and tell you how that goes.

 

[pomelito123]

hey vegetation, do you play with an AI or two?

EDIT: Just second away from Angry's Reply

Hah, you still have school? That's a bummer.

of course i'm only 14 yrs. old

 

[Ham Ham]

vegetation, lag occurs when you try putting more than 2 AI players

 

[Angry_Bovine]

of course i'm only 14 yrs. old

Your district must be diff; I ended schools a week ago =\

 

[vegetation]

sorry forgot to read the description... did it with 4 AI... But it give less fun

 

[HFR]

I already played with 3 AI and no lag

Also, as Black Eagle has been cancelled by Russia, the T-95 is an good option. Also, my school ends in 1 week, so, I'll have a lot of free time.

 

[Tha Flamestorm]

Empire earth 1 rules

Its a song of the Empire Earth 1 game.

OFF TOPIC: Nice game isn't It?http://ee.heavengames.com/ if you want maps and stuff for it
ON TOPIC: yeehaaw, new and fun map by ham ham for me to play!

 

[Angry_Bovine]

I just had a weird idea, that would allow for a grouping/squad system. What if each team was actually just one player with mass shared control? This wouldn't allow for un-alliances though... (unallying doesn't make too much sense though in the face of nuclear annihilation.)

 

[Tleno]

I already played with 3 AI and no lag

Also, as Black Eagle has been cancelled by Russia, the T-95 is an good option. Also, my school ends in 1 week, so, I'll have a lot of free time.

Well you can just rename black eagle into T95.

 

[pomelito123]

Your district must be diff; I ended schools a week ago =\

I'm in Philippines.... Valenzuela City.....

and what week ago.... no class...
or you are not in school anymore...
or you graduated already...
or the school has A(H1N1) so it has been suspended...
or none of the above...

 

[Ham Ham]

I did a new update to fix the medics thing, ballance some things, and fix some bugs =)
Also, I reduced the number of units inside the dungeon in pacific, and now, when a zombie kills somebody, it gets zombified.