[Discussion] Would you be interested in working in a community project?

[Statharas]

So... what happened to this place :?

I lack a monitor for my laptop, i am hoping that I will find my old desktop's monitor to use.

 

[morbent]

Yes I know that Stath, but we can still think on the idea of the game.

 

[Amargaard]

Personally, I'm more interested in character designs and roles as well as the storyline rather than the gameplay and stuff, which I will stay out of, leaving it to whoever are good at such things. Because if we succeed in creating unique characters and an exciting plot, we have already gotten far in the process of making a great game
Though, I'd recommend that we make two playable heroes - either switchable, like Mario and Luigi in the Mario-series, or a small sidekick who always follows the main hero like in Ratchet & Clank or Jak & Daxter (Which are also awzum games, that we could get inspiration from).

The storyline I had in mind
The Hive's bee-queen has been manipulated by her evil royal advisor, and have mistakenly ended up selling the Hive to her advisor's master, some unknown evil mastermind, turning the Hive into a powerful fortress of evil and slavery.
However, all this is unknown to our main character, who was adopted away from the Hive before it's fall to evil, and raised by moose? Anyways, he comes to knowledge of his biological home's fate and sets out on the usual heroic journey to save them all - soon he meets his sidekick/loyal friend, a small robotic dog or something, that follows his journey, eventually ending up fighting through the Hive with their advanced weaponry that they have found during their journey.

How does that sound? Of course it's only roughly thought of and written down, but that's what an idea phase is for, right?

 

[Bernkastel]

Why would you really have it be something that's actually Hive related, you monster.
You spit out the words of misery from your cakehole.

What is required here wraps around these words; pain and agony. From these two ingredients all the happy worlds are made of

 

[Binsu]

I have really noticed that we keep changing ideas so we cant start with this one.... lets take one idea and done...

 

[morbent]

Lets make a poll and vote.

 

[avtoritet]

Lets make a poll and vote.

I Agree!
Let's Start another Tread Discussing Possible Genre / Characters & Who's Working On What Sector.

 

[Amargaard]

Yup that'd be the best option

 

[morbent]

So... who's gonna create one ;D

 

[Foronisus]

So... who's gonna create one ;D

Same question

 

[rover2341]

Statharas would create one right? or someone under hes leadership. as he would be the one mangeing the project. At least that's my impression.

 

[Amargaard]

Well, let's ease his job a little and find out what genres we want
*RPG
*Platform
*.. I don't know what the different genres are called.. :b

 

[morbent]

RTS, MMORPG, 2d side scroller, etc.

 

[Jazztastic]

Oh its [self=http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/site-discussion-97/hive-community-built-game-idea-219927/index2.html#post2196390]this thread again[/self]

Well I'm definitely not going to take the time to retype it all out, so here are my thoughts - http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/2196390-post18.html

 

[Amargaard]

Jazztastic got a point that we need a great leader if we are to succeed - I'd stick with a character designing role

 

[Xonok]

Jazztastic got a point that we need a great leader if we are to succeed - I'd stick with a character designing role

And I can be the annoying guy that forces people to make everything perfect the first time.

 

[Statharas]

If someone is willing to take over temporarily for me, It'd allow the project to move on a bit.

 

[Amargaard]

Wait, after turning the thoughts around in my head for some time, I came to think.. why even have a leader? What's so important about it? This is a community project, why not let us all be leaders and make the decisions together instead of having some Hitler-dude in front?

 

[Statharas]

You love poking DSG on the sides, don't you.

 

[Bernkastel]

Without a leader, there is no person who has a higher authority which gives this person no position to give orders to others, as they're considered equal.
People will get sloppy, when there is no leader and no progress will be made.
And making the decisions together would end up in one being against everyone else and nobody being able to do anything about it, as all are equal and one cannot be shot for not following others, and then these things would need to be twisted and turned until everyone are satisfied, which might not even happen in the end.

 

[Amargaard]

Okay okay whatever, just a suggestion you know :b

 

[Statharas]

Not to mention how nobody would put everybody working together.

 

[Dr Super Good]

This is a community project, why not let us all be leaders and make the decisions together instead of having some Hitler-dude in front?

Because everyone would try and make the game they want to make and so nothing would be made that is able to be stuck together. As long as a universal goal is set, there can be as many leaders as nescescary but setting a universal goal usually requires a leader.

 

[Just_Spectating]

and so we follow dsg

 

[morbent]

Hmm... so what now, we vote for leader?

 

[Binsu]

Lets make DSG the leader.

 

[Bernkastel]

You can't make one leader. The person must also accept the task that has been offered.

 

[morbent]

So...? :\ ... we can't waste 10 more days thinking on who the leader should be. Like we did with the game style. And actually everything else.

I'll count the votes.

1 vote for Doc
1 vote for Stat

 

[Bernkastel]

Before a so called vote can be called, you'd require volunteers for the duty. It'd be foolish if someone who didn't want to do it would get all the votes. Thus the voting being useless.

 

[morbent]

Yea, I guess you're right. But we can't wait for all the volunteers to reply :\ this chat is too slow, lets vote and after that or during that voting people will say who wants to be a leader and such... and if someone who doesn't want to be the leader gets all the votes then we'll just choose the second winner by votes.

 

[Amargaard]

What about the guy who created the thread? He might want to be leader as well

 

[morbent]

So Amargaard votes for Stath.

Btw, you can multivote if you want.

 

[Amargaard]

Yeah, whatever - I'm sure my job will be the same no matter who will lead the project ^^

 

[Statharas]

So...? :\ ... we can't waste 10 more days thinking on who the leader should be. Like we did with the game style. And actually everything else.

I'll count the votes.

1 vote for Doc

Implying we even chose a game style

 

[Jolly_jumper]

hehe maybe write what qualifications are needed to be the leader of the project?
I'm guessing the leader would require to have a good knowledge of the game engine we'll be working with so that needs to be descided on first, but before we can descide on what game engine to use we need to descide on what genre/game type we're making so we pick the best game engine for the project...

So i guess we were on the right track by trying to descide on genre(which still hasn't been descided AFAIK ), after that is descided we need to figure out which game engine to use before we can make a justified descision about who should be the leader

Just my thoughts

 

[Statharas]

I am actually thinking of DSG for this, if he agrees.

 

[morbent]

Well, you see there comes this problem - we CANNOT decide what the genre will be, cuz we have different opinions. The leader has to decide that. So, we must first choose the leader and then he will choose everything, with probably 1-2 more people, some kind of advisors or something.


Just counting:

2 votes for DSG
1 vote for Stath

(if of course, Dr Super Good agrees to this)

 

[Bernkastel]

As mentioned earlier, a leader cannot just decide it, atleast I wouldn't personally want to work on a project that I didn't like a slightest bit.

 

[Jolly_jumper]

lol so you need someone to dictate everything is what you're saying?^^
If you choose one person who holds all the power when it comes to desciding what game you're gonna be making it would no longer be a community project, it would be the dictators project with the community as helper slaves...

 

[Bernkastel]

Without a leader everyone will be sloppy. Only worthy to die beneath the heel of a boot.

 

[morbent]

"If you choose one person who holds all the power when it comes to desciding what game you're gonna be making it would no longer be a community project, it would be the dictators project with the community as helper slaves... "

Well, I guess I am saying this cuz... hmm.. ok, you saw, what happened when we were trying to decide what the genre of the game will be. Nothing. No final solution.

Or make a poll, or the leader to decide the genre of the game, that's my opinion on this =)



I don't see how else we can do it.

 

[Foronisus]

"If you choose one person who holds all the power when it comes to desciding what game you're gonna be making it would no longer be a community project, it would be the dictators project with the community as helper slaves... "

Well, I guess I am saying this cuz... hmm.. ok, you saw, what happened when we were trying to decide what the genre of the game will be. Nothing. No final solution.

Or make a poll, or the leader to decide the genre of the game, that's my opinion on this =)



I don't see how else we can do it.

Poll best choice

 

[Statharas]

Just a slight notice to everybody

This is the game development forum, not the Wc3 development forum.

#privatemessagesillyness

 

[morbent]

Hey, btw, I was thinking.. why not create a Facebook/Skype/Something else chat where we can all see the messages that have been written and such.. I mean it would be a lot faster. A skype discussion for example, would be great. You get all written messages as.. hmm, how can I name this, as a... visitor message, I mean, with this (1) <You have unread messages> etc.

 

[avtoritet]

I'm volunteering for this "powerfull" position, as i'm experienced in independant tasks and organizing events. this would be a piece of cake

 

[Just_Spectating]

I'm volunteering for this "powerfull" position, as i'm experienced in independant tasks and organizing events. this would be a piece of cake

This is where Reputation is kind of important.
You may think of it as an arbitrary thing, But you won't get many to nominate you, sorry

 

[morbent]

Well, no reputation isn't important that much. Every person is, not his reputation. A guy with 600 rep can still be mean, rude, etc. So the other way around is possible too. A guy with -50 rep to still be capable of handling a project.

But that's just my point of view. Anyway, I vote for DSG (if he agrees of course), since he is, in my opinion, and experienced person who seems to know a lot more about games than most of us (I'm talking about game engines and such) and he also has that passive spell which makes people listen to what he says at least in my opinion.

Add: [NOT because of his rep, posts, join date, awards or anything of that sort]

 

[Statharas]

It's called making an investigation.


Anyway, in case you haven't noticed, I cannot lead this (at least until I get a monitor).

 

[morbent]

Don't worry, you can, until you get a monitor we.. well, we won't have done much I think. Or until then, someone else can take that post temporarily if you get the most votes

 

[Dr Super Good]

Why does everyone want me to lead? Seeing how I have not really finished anything before it seems a rather bad choice...