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Was 11 sep fake? Is Jesus the sun? Does Banks control the world?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by RED BARON, Sep 15, 2007.

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What do You believe?

  1. All in the movie i true!

    18.8%
  2. Some parts of the movie is true (Post which ones)

    31.3%
  3. I only believe in the fake 11 september

    12.5%
  4. That movie is fake, I dont believe it!

    37.5%
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  1. RED BARON

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    This movie contains a number of facts we know is true, we see movie clips from CNN and so. And they actualy convience you.

    You should realy see this movie

    http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

    It is actualy more then a wake up.

    Feel free to be critic, discus or similar here in this tread
    But see the movie
    http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

    You get some answears which actualy explains many things you maybe wondered about.
    But also dont take everything for true, judge it.

    But see it! :infl_thumbs_up:

    Is is proved the fact with jesus, but does you believe it? :pal:
     
  2. GST_Nemisis

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    yeh there is alot of consipiracy around all of it, tbh im not sure what to believe about anythings anymore. so long as i got steak and counter strike im happy.
     
  3. DarkDenizen

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    No, no, not steak and counter strike, it's pizza, caffeine and counter strike. Regarding 9-11, I'm a bit skeptical as to it being a hoax. Not sure even the people in our government would see the logic in blowing up such an important pair of buildings.
     
  4. MySpaceBarBroke

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    The video takes an eternity and a half to load, so i'll load it up on g3 torrent and say right now that i am particularly skeptical of 9-11 theories, though i always take conspiracy theories with a skeptic's point of view. It's stupid how some genius could think that he can pull a fast one on the government, a huge juggernaut of power, about aliens/fake moon landing/9-11 and not get killed by such a "corrupt" power before the "truth" reaches our noses. Apparently Watergate happens every week.
     
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    Just a few days ago my Social studies mentioned it( i love this dude by the way). Since it was 9/11 we were talking about it for awhile. After talking about it and learning a bit more he said that a lot of people think the we 'did it to ourselves'. He said that though the videos may be VERY convincing, every single point made in these videos have backfired from cold hard facts. He gave a few examples(though i no longer remember them sadly) but i remember this; imagine the money it would take to pay off people to be silent? And for so many years? Besides, why would they hit the center of our economy?!

    Aside from that there was a social studies teacher at this same high school that for 2 weeks TOUGHT HIS STUDENTS about the conspiracy. Long story short he was kicked out of the school before you can say idiot, but before htat happenedd one of the other teachers took all of this information he had and countered it with a huge list.

    Thing is i do know in some ways the government is corrupt, and i do know that some of the government would have done this, but the truth(or at least what i believe) is that we did not do it to ourselves.
     
  6. Hakeem

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    Maybe you should research the steal used in the towers and the combustion temperature of jet fuel. Or maybe you should study demolition. And watch some videos, one tower started to tip over.
    I find it hard to believe that the terrorists were so evil that they defied physics.
     
  7. MySpaceBarBroke

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    The government isn't made of angels, but i'm almost certain it stops at bribery and wire tapping. Conspiracies of epic (hellz yeah) proportions don't happen every day, but bored college students with laptops sure do.
     
  8. Hakeem

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    And defying physics is common as well?
     
  9. MySpaceBarBroke

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    I love how this is their most common argument. Let me give you a little filling in.

    "Though steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C"
     
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  11. MySpaceBarBroke

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    Since you don't trust the government and all, I doubt my sources can override some government conspiracy site, but here's something from a 9/11 faq from NIST.

    And here's something Popular Mechanics
     
  12. Hakeem

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    Neither of those I consider trustable either. I'm too lazy right now to care to look for anything. Lets instead look at less debatable physics. It doesn't matter that the planes couldn't bring down the towers, what matters is how they came down.

    One tower started to tip over. Just try stopping that. Only one way it could have fallen the way it did after that.
     
  13. MySpaceBarBroke

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    "Tipping over" isn't very specific, nor is it very damaging for whatever it covers. Try sourcing or, better yet, making a nice picture.

    Furthermore, I don't find a website made specifically for revealing 9/11 scandals to be very trustworthy either. I'd rather trust a site that is primarily for science, or better yet, the government, kthx. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
     
  14. Hakeem

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    Yes, it is rather hard to find an unbiased site about this subject.

    And this is what I mean by "tipping".
     
  15. MySpaceBarBroke

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    Wow, you managed to misinterpret the information. The argument wasn't about the WTC "tipping over", it was about how the WTC was hypothetically supposed to tip over, rather than crumble as it did. And the argument against it was that the WTC had multiple floor fires spawned from the jet fuel, as well as had its foundations destroyed, resulting in its collapse.
     
  16. Hakeem

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    You seem to have misinterpreted, the top of the south tower was tipping over and falling. The only way it could have continued the way it did is if it was broken up. In other words: explosives destroyed the top of the south tower.
     
  17. MySpaceBarBroke

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    You basically just reiterated what I said. Now reply again to the argument against it that I posted.
     
  18. Hakeem

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    Do you have any idea what it would take to cause the top of the tower to break apart enough to make it fall as it did? Jet-fuel-fire is nowhere near sufficient.

    Take these 3 pictures:
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    Guess which one is WTC.

    This has "controlled demolition" written all over it. There is no way in hell that thing collapsed the way it did from a plane.
    If you want an explanation see here: http://www.truememes.com/911_physics.html
     
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    Hakeem, are you saying that the tower was SOPPOSED to tip over but didnt?The top right pic was a rather low building, cant tell about the other, and the bottom one is just a pile of rubble lol
     
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    [​IMG]

    If nothing else, this should lighten the mood a little.

    Please, do continue.
     
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