Warcraft : Orcs

[LordPerenolde II]

I had the campaign tested over and over by some people, over a long time, and none ever complained about bonus objectives. Not even people who downloaded and commented in this thread. They are there for the final maps and for the purpose of the entire remake: entertain.

Ok, i'm seeing just now your 3rd map video and the biggest problem i noticed is that you really lack a proper micro game. Seriously, don't take it too personally, but your micro game is terrible. I can only see it improved a bit towards the end, but it didn't look generally promising.
I've recently replayed for fun all maps towards mission 9 without having to save(except for mission 2 which is where i really lack the necessary speed). I don't wanna imagine what had taken to you for the subsequent maps if you're experiencing this difficulty just at the 3rd one. As i've seen the bonus objective had you trick around for a while; that was the intention. Game is pretty easy when you're able to command 12 killer spearmen at once. Had to rise the stake a bit. Glad it paid off. Anyway, i agree with the kill-counter issue.

 

[Jayborino]

I had the campaign tested over and over by some people, over a long time, and none ever complained about bonus objectives. Not even people who downloaded and commented in this thread. They are there for the final maps and for the purpose of the entire remake: entertain. Ok, i'm seeing just now your 3rd map video and the biggest problem i noticed is that you really lack a proper micro game. Seriously, don't take it too personally, but your micro game is terrible.

Shrug, that's easy for you to say considering you made the campaign and know the mechanics inside and out. You've not had anyone complain about the bonus objectives, so you can count me as the first one; I'm always happy to give my honest feedback, but hope it did not come across as rude! I've never played WC1, never used Necrolytes, never learned the proper way to deal with catapults, etc, and this has been/will continue be a fun learning experience - please don't brush me off as simply being a poor player though.

Of course I don't know what I'm doing because I never played the first game. My original opinions still stand such that this campaign is definitely not accessible to most people because it can get very irritating to play for some different reasons, just like WC1 was. That's what your aim was to recreate and I stand by saying you've done a great job!

I've played and showcased A LOT of hard campaigns in WC3 and SC2 both that really challenged my multitasking skills and required scrappy, fast thinking, but nothing made quite like this. Looking forward to completing it soon!

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Sorry, i kept modifying the post as i studied more the video you posted. See some new text now. As i said, don't be offended, nor take as a personal offence what i just said about your micro management(but seriously: you see a necro going ahead on the front-line, send it back asap!!), and NOT, I DIDN'T say you are a bad player AT ALL!!!!! I love you for what you did; true is that i would like to make a donation for your efforts. Any way i can do that?

 

[Jayborino]

Apologies, I didn't take offense, but was standing by my opinions while still emphasizing that I definitely appreciate how accurate this remake is. I don't take donations for the channel, but thank you. You deserve to get all the credit for the sheer amount of effort and passion you put into this project, it really shows. I just showcase your, and others', hard work!

You should prepare for more blunders by me, I'm doing all this blind and I think many viewers enjoy it that way as well, like getting stomped by catapults

 

[LordPerenolde II]

I'm glad we sorted it out ok. ^^' You said you're over the 6th map, right? the 8th map is my favourite one of the entire project(excluding the bonus maps of this campaign). The real fun is about to begin!

 

[Luffy]

Holy smokes, this got an update?

It might be a signal that you might make a Warcraft 2 one sometime in the future :3

 

[LordPerenolde II]

There is another thread in which i discuss about ideas and such for this. It might happen, but i'm gonna need help this time.....

 

[Graetgames]

link pls

Do you Have YouTube/Google Account? there should been a Watch History in it.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

what this has to do with the review HE mentioned?

 

[Graetgames]

I thought you are talking about youtube lol

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Yes, but i was curious to see that review, that's why i asked for the link.

 

[redwings1340]

This is really cool, I'm playing through your orc campaign right now, since I've never played the original warcraft before. This looks masterfully put together, and I have no complains about your work in it so far (only done the first two missions). One thing that strikes me upon playing is quite simply how... bad the mission designs are in the original game. These levels are so unnecessarily big, having only one town hall and having to long distance mine sucks, and trying to hunt down stragglers on the map is really annoying. I guess that's some of the charm of the original game though, it's interesting seeing how Blizzard got better at making campaigns throughout the years.

EDIT: On level 2 there's a minor bug where if you beat the level in about five minutes, but the timer goes below five minutes before you the victory is processed, it will tell you that you failed the optional quest before it tells you the reward for the quest. It doesn't matter much because I got the quest reward anyway, but its probably a simple 'turn off trigger' fix.

EDIT 2: On level 5 you have an optional quest to not lose any buildings, and I just lost it because I tried to construct a farm too far away from the town hall. While I can see how the trigger would activate there, that's kinda frustrating because I was pretty far in to the mission at that point.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Answers contained in the quote under each scoreline.

This is really cool, I'm playing through your orc campaign right now, since I've never played the original warcraft before. This looks masterfully put together, and I have no complains about your work in it so far (only done the first two missions). One thing that strikes me upon playing is quite simply how... bad the mission designs are in the original game. These levels are so unnecessarily big, having only one town hall and having to long distance mine sucks, and trying to hunt down stragglers on the map is really annoying. I guess that's some of the charm of the original game though, it's interesting seeing how Blizzard got better at making campaigns throughout the years.
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Yeah, original game's maps were as much as plain, barren and somewhat boring; but that graphic, that pace, that vintage feeling of something NEW(warcraft was a milestone of its genre, together with Dune) is something that can't be recreated, something that i couldn't remake.

EDIT: On level 2 there's a minor bug where if you beat the level in about five minutes, but the timer goes below five minutes before you the victory is processed, it will tell you that you failed the optional quest before it tells you the reward for the quest. It doesn't matter much because I got the quest reward anyway, but its probably a simple 'turn off trigger' fix.
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Yeah, i know it and tried many time to fix it, but didn't work. Anyway the bonus still remains and stacks up for the campaign(as well as for the bonus maps unlock requirement)
If you look on my youtube channel(advantix3ple) i'm taking on a longplay rec where i play hard mode and experience the bug myself(with live commentary of curiosities about the project map after map).

EDIT 2: On level 5 you have an optional quest to not lose any buildings, and I just lost it because I tried to construct a farm too far away from the town hall. While I can see how the trigger would activate there, that's kinda frustrating because I was pretty far in to the mission at that point.
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I think i knew about this and thought of a way to fix this, but probably ended up forgetting about it. I'm sorry. Now that you brought up the "bug" i will go back looking for it and see if i can really fix it.

Anyway, thank you very much for playing and(if i can tell) enjoying my work! Give a rating as well if you would be so kind.

 

[redwings1340]

Yep, I'm definitely enjoying it! The bonus objectives have been somewhat difficult, but otherwise I've been getting the levels without too much issue, up until the level where they have conjurers and scorpions, I keep dying early there. I'm finding out now that catapults are insanely strong in the original game. It's been really awesome so far, I can tell it took a lot of time and dedication to make this.

 

[Luffy]

There is another thread in which i discuss about ideas and such for this. It might happen, but i'm gonna need help this time.....

Oh is there? Where is it? Sorry I didn't know that. I would love to give suggestions and help with whatever I can.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Oh is there? Where is it? Sorry I didn't know that. I would love to give suggestions and help with whatever I can.

[Campaign] - Wc2 Remake: concept and ideas

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Project is now on

PATCH v2.6

Ver2.6 CHANGE LOG:

- Archers on map 5 slightly moved aside the middle of the right bridge to prevent a very little(yet possible) chance for AI units from getting stuck there while attacking in a big balled-up fashion.
- Trees on southeastern corner of map 11 slightly moved to prevent AI units from getting stuck underneath while attacking.
- Timer for Hard mode on map 10 increased from 5 to 8 minutes.
- Timer for Hard mode bonus objective on map 12 increased from 5 to 6 minutes.
- Rain of fire/cloud of poison: Damage of each wave reduced from 18 to 13, decreased number of waves from 4 to 3, decreased building resistance to the spell from 25% to 0%, increased mana cost from 28 to 30.
- Water Elemental attack type changed from Piercing to Magic, as a bypass for the Footmen Defense ability.
- Upkeep removed
- Damage of Chaos/Magic attack type decreased from 1.30 to 1.20 on heavy armors.

Special thanks to Jayborino for his gameplay videos which gave me the mood to play the campaign again one more time and find out things to fix and balance once more.

I'll be playing the Human Campaign as well for the same purpose. Thanks again everyone for playing.

 

[redwings1340]

I noticed in mission 6 (I hate that mission with a passion now, it took me so many tries to do, lol) that you can get in to low upkeep when you reach 51 food. Is that intentional? I've never played the original warcraft, but I doubt that there was upkeep in it.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

I noticed in mission 6 (I hate that mission with a passion now, it took me so many tries to do, lol) that you can get in to low upkeep when you reach 51 food. Is that intentional? I've never played the original warcraft, but I doubt that there was upkeep in it.

Of course there wasn't any, but you have be extremely camper to reach that value. Also with all the buildings, the building limit bound and so on, i can't imagine where you'd put all of those farms. xD
I honestly thought no one could ever get there because of each single unit food cost of 1 and the casualties you may have with enemy attacks.
Also I forgot it takes 51 food units to get to low upkeed. Thanks for reporting this.

 

[redwings1340]

you have be extremely camper to reach that value.

I actually almost lost the mission even after I reached 50 food. That bridge was just so hard to cross, the humans had like 5 catapults on the other side of it, and just melted all my troops, lol. I actually needed to build up to above 50 supply to beat the level.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Re-updated and re-uploaded. Thanks for the spot. I would give you +rep but i have to spread first.

 

[corvus_mortis]

I was playing this campaign in Chapter 9 if I do not remember when I immediately thought of using a "thereisnospoon" trick for the conjurers to invoke many water elementals, it was at that moment that I saw a cleric attack a farm and later attack the Peasants, why did AI do that?

 

[LordPerenolde II]

I don't understand the connection between the elementals summoning and the attacking cleric.
Anyway i guess AI prioritizes units over buildings but again what you said wasn't very clear. Later when? When the farm got destroyed? When he spotted the paesant close to his acquisition range? There is no custom script in that anyway so i don't know.

 

[Jayborino]

Managed to complete map 9 here, definitely one of the hardest so far! A tip to players struggling with enemy catapults, it helps a lot to run one unit around with queued actions to distract the shots, while you use anything else to kill it.

I think map 6 was the hardest so far, but that may also be because I wasn't quite mentally prepared to deal with catapults, you start with fewer resources, and have no Warlocks yet! I'm enjoying this campaign more with each mission that passes. Great stealth section addition to Northshire Abbey

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Managed to complete map 9 here, definitely one of the hardest so far! A tip to players struggling with enemy catapults, it helps a lot to run one unit around with queued actions to distract the shots, while you use anything else to kill it.

I think map 6 was the hardest so far, but that may also be because I wasn't quite mentally prepared to deal with catapults, you start with fewer resources, and have no Warlocks yet! I'm enjoying this campaign more with each mission that passes. Great stealth section addition to Northshire Abbey

Good to have your feedback on the go. I'm glad you like map 8, is one of my favourite(excluding the bonus maps).
If you got past Hard map 9 which at this point i think it's the most difficult one indeed for both races, you'll definitely get to the bonus in no time.
Looking forward for saturday! And i can't wait to have your feedback on the bonus maps! I'll give my usual comment(about map 8) for you to stick when i'll see it. Take care.

 

[BluesMan74]

wonderful work!

 

[LordPerenolde II]

wonderful work!

Too kind!

 

[Arjuna]

Is it intended, that Demons - after getting their cleave passive - are attacking with their spell animation? That seems so fucking retard ...

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Is it intended, that Demons - after getting their cleave passive - are attacking with their spell animation? That seems so fucking retard ...

Yeah i know. I tried to fix that to the normal animation but there was no way.

 

[Krogoth]

Have watched playthrough of your campaign, this is very well done.
Looking forward to see your WC2.

 

[LordBekks]

Making a comment mostly to vote 5/5. Amazing campaign. Had the feel of the old WC1 whilst improving UI and making life easier for players with little things (like allowing more units to be selected simultaneously). I also thought the bonus objectives were freaking amazing, I hope they'll be implemented in the WC2 remake... which I'm dying to be released.

 

[Dragoonx]

10/10

 

[Omicron]

Hey, really want to play this, but for some reason, whenever i start up the campaign, it tells me that there's not enough memory resources to process some object. CustomObject (.?AUCustomObject@@)

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Hey, really want to play this, but for some reason, whenever i start up the campaign, it tells me that there's not enough memory resources to process some object. CustomObject (.?AUCustomObject@@)

As far as i know, unfortunately, all crash issues like this i'm getting are due to the latest patch messing with projects made with the earlier ones. I shall recover the link where i found a working 1.28f wc3 and put it in my signature so that people can play either this or my future wc2 remake.

EDIT: Link here Warden

 

[Omicron]

As far as i know, unfortunately, all crash issues like this i'm getting are due to the latest patch messing with projects made with the earlier ones. I shall recover the link where i found a working 1.28f wc3 and put it in my signature so that people can play either this or my future wc2 remake.

Thanks, dude.

 

[Omicron]

Question, how do I install the 1.28?

 

[ReD2222]

Hello there! I have a small issue about bonus missions. After tearing my ass apart I somehow managed to strike Stormwind keep once, and bonus objective was completed saying I've unlocked bonus stages, but after the secret intro nothing happens and I'm getting back to mission select without any unlocked bonus chapters... Any suggestions? (Game version is 1.30.2 - well, the actual one)

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Question, how do I install the 1.28?

I think there should be an installer in the folder; just do it in a different directory than your original updated wc3.

Hello there! I have a small issue about bonus missions. After tearing my ass apart I somehow managed to strike Stormwind keep once, and bonus objective was completed saying I've unlocked bonus stages, but after the secret intro nothing happens and I'm getting back to mission select without any unlocked bonus chapters... Any suggestions? (Game version is 1.30.2 - well, the actual one)

Are you sure you're not getting any "secret intro" button or something like that? If not, then try to switch to 1.28f which i linked in my signature below.

 

[ReD2222]

I think there should be an installer in the folder; just do it in a different directory than your original updated wc3.


Are you sure you're not getting any "secret intro" button or something like that? If not, then try to switch to 1.28f which i linked in my signature below.

I have got a secret Intro, but not any Secret chapter 1 after seeing the intro etc.

 

[knighthawk]

i need help, i redownloaded frozen throne with the older version but there is no campaign folder to put the files into.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

i need help, i redownloaded frozen throne with the older version but there is no campaign folder to put the files into.

The campaign folder should(still) be in mydocuments/Warcraftiii folder, or something like.
Make sure you don't run battlenet with the older version, and place a shortcut of the 1.28f exe on your desktop. Avoid clicking to the exe icon if it is in the start menu. Just saying.

I have got a secret Intro, but not any Secret chapter 1 after seeing the intro etc.

Sorry for the late reply, but you should definitely switch to 1.28f(check my signature) for better performance.

 

[ArcEnCiel]

Hey, could you make an "easy mode" aside from a "hard mode"?

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Hey, could you make an "easy mode" aside from a "hard mode"?

lol easy mode should be banned from all videogames. Just play "normal mode" instead.

 

[Graetgames]

Hey, could you make an "easy mode" aside from a "hard mode"?

lol easy mode should be banned from all videogames. Just play "normal mode" instead.

im with LordPerenoldell on this one.

if theres an easy wone we can at least Roll with that campaign with no problem haha

 

[deepstrasz]

lol easy mode should be banned from all videogames. Just play "normal mode" instead.

Not everyone has good reflexes or two hands.

 

[Graetgames]

Not everyone has good reflexes or two hands.

yeah but what happens if someones lazy or noobinsh (by which i mean who didnt play Warcraft 1)

i would say buy it. it's cheap.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

yeah but what happens if someones lazy or noobinsh (by which i mean who didnt play Warcraft 1)

i would say buy it. it's cheap.

In the first map in normal mode the AI doesn't attack, so it gives you all the time in the world to familiarize yourself with the mechanics and the structure of the game. I remember when i first played wc1 and i was about 8 or something, it was my first RTS ever and i had no idea what it was about, so i thought the Peasant was the hero of the game and the Footmen were the common soldiers going to die quickly. I didn't know anything about english language so i couldn't figure out anything by myself. Then the best friend came as usual to help me out in finding clues with videogames, expecially when i used to get stuck without being able to complete or get past levels, and slowly we figured out how it worked.
Just like any other game, every level gives you a new challenge, putting you to test what you've learned that far. Warcraft simply excelled in this, even without tutorial.

 

[AbsolutePsycho]

So I have completed this on Hard difficulty with every optional quest, and it definitely feels harder that Human Campaign. Because humans have healing, obviously, and especially because of auto-casting it's was much easier in human campaign. Now, orcs have Raise Dead, ofc, but it's not nearly as good and requires more micro. I know, this is how it was in WC1, but one major difference: there was no auto-casting for player. That is what influences the difficulty a lot on "Hard" mode. So I think Necrolytes need to be buffed in some way. Maybe change "Dark Ritual" so that they could consume skeletons to heal themselves? Because sacrificing alive unit just to restore mana... I never used it, because mana restores quite quickly anyway, so you never need it.

A few other things to mention:

- Enemy Necrolyte can use Raise Dead after death, sometimes even on himself!!!

- Maybe different skeleton model should be used for Raise Dead? Currently if you kill human, it raises "Grunt Skeleton". And you already have another model in your campaign - "generic skeleton" in dungeon missions. I think they would be more fitting for Raise Dead and they also look like ones from WC1, too.

- Also need to mention that in WC1 catapult shot didn't explode units to pieces, so there were corpses left behind as from any other death. But here we have usual WC3 explodable corpses, and this makes things even worse for Necrolytes!

- Footman shield ability is a bit overpowered. Just try shooting 1 footman with 12 spearmen, that's gonna look ridiculous considering HP damage exchange... Blocking damage is perfectly okay, but I think there shouldn't be any deflecting.

- Orc mission 2 bonus reward seems much worse than in Human mission 2, and the human optional quest is also much easier. Maybe it should be "+2 damage" for spearman, but "+25% speed" for archer? Considering upgrades, archer "damage*speed" would be (4*1,25 = 5 ---> 6*1,25 = 7,5 ---> 8*1,25 = 10), and spearman "damage*speed" would be (6 ---> 8 ---> 10). I think that would be fair.

- While playing both campaigns, I was constantly thinking: isn't spear/crossbow range too high? It certainly doesn't feel that long in WC1 (there it's about 1/3 of a screen), maybe reduce it from 800 to 600? Same for catapults.

- Level 4: Optional "Slime" quest says "Do not lose any unit against Slimes", however it's more like "Kill all Slimes without losing any unit to them". Because at first I just ran around them completely ignoring them, but in the end this quest wasn't completed. If it counts towards "Total completion", that would suck if player didn't notice that.

- In mission 10 enemy Cleric was healing my Raider, lolwut?

- In secret mission 2 the whole escape sequence felt dragged out and complete copy of mission 8 with nothing new to add, and pretty pointless because these two brigands die outside in the next cutscene anyway. Also, if during mission one of them dies, it should cause gameover, because you need both of them alive to step on the buttons. And the boss fight was nice.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

So I think Necrolytes need to be buffed in some way. Maybe change "Dark Ritual" so that they could consume skeletons to heal themselves? Because sacrificing alive unit just to restore mana... I never used it, because mana restores quite quickly anyway, so you never need it.

As i told you in the other thread, i'm not really interested in applying new changes at all. I think i was inclined to the Dark Ritual ability just because of the "dagger trust" animation of the Necrolyte model. Anyway as of now i do think it needed health regain too.

A few other things to mention:

Yeah, i can see there's quite a FEW things you mentioned!

- Enemy Necrolyte can use Raise Dead after death, sometimes even on himself!!!

Raise dead spell on ai doesn't normally work, so i had to manually recreate the whole process using triggers, and it took some coding on its own. The result is that when any unit dies within a fixed range away of the necrolyte(with enough mana), it generates a skeleton and takes away the needed mana. In this way the same happens even if the necrolyte himself dies but he still has enough mana for the spell.
Yet i'm surprised you found it out just now and not in the Human campaign, where you have to deal with them for almost its entire duration. That's good.

- Maybe different skeleton model should be used for Raise Dead? Currently if you kill human, it raises "Grunt Skeleton". And you already have another model in your campaign - "generic skeleton" in dungeon missions. I think they would be more fitting for Raise Dead and they also look like ones from WC1, too.

I decided to put Grunt skeletons because the icons of the skeletons in wc1 were grunt skeletons, and the "generic skeleton" has its own different stats. I will but use the latter type for Raise Dead on the wc2 remake.

- Also need to mention that in WC1 catapult shot didn't explode units to pieces, so there were corpses left behind as from any other death. But here we have usual WC3 explodable corpses, and this makes things even worse for Necrolytes!

I know but there is nothing i can do about it. Every Artillery-type weapon in wc3 squishes units upon kill. I tried to fix it by making their attack projectile-type, but the result is that they have a minor tracking capability, so they become sort of OP. Imagine a catapult with boulders you can't actually dodge.....

- Footman shield ability is a bit overpowered. Just try shooting 1 footman with 12 spearmen, that's gonna look ridiculous considering HP damage exchange... Blocking damage is perfectly okay, but I think there shouldn't be any deflecting.

I made this in order to give the player a flexibility of mindset to apply for dynamics like this in the battlefield, and not just having to spam missile units ftw like in the original wc1. In this way Grunts still become a viable option for enemy footmen, and even more reasonable with the Health buff bonus! The same in the human campaign, you'd want to train more archers to deal with enemy Grunts and footmen with Defend to crush their Spearmen parties!

- Orc mission 2 bonus reward seems much worse than in Human mission 2, and the human optional quest is also much easier. Maybe it should be "+2 damage" for spearman, but "+25% speed" for archer? Considering upgrades, archer "damage*speed" would be (4*1,25 = 5 ---> 6*1,25 = 7,5 ---> 8*1,25 = 10), and spearman "damage*speed" would be (6 ---> 8 ---> 10). I think that would be fair.

The Grunt health buff makes the Attack-speed buff (more)possible to achieve. The two combined, with the Necrolyte Curse attack buff, are what makes more possible facing the Slimes without losing units(with due microing ofc). The damage upgrade to spearmen wouldn't have been effective against slimes because they take only 1 damage per attack.

- While playing both campaigns, I was constantly thinking: isn't spear/crossbow range too high? It certainly doesn't feel that long in WC1 (there it's about 1/3 of a screen), maybe reduce it from 800 to 600? Same for catapults.

All maps of both campaigns are slightly scaled up from the original wc1. I noticed this only when they were all terrained and i obviously decided to keep them like this. As a matter of fact the range of missile troops and catapults reflect the scaling, but so does the speed of every unit as well, which thus can cover the distance required to reach said units at the same pace as they do in the original wc1.

- Level 4: Optional "Slime" quest says "Do not lose any unit against Slimes", however it's more like "Kill all Slimes without losing any unit to them". Because at first I just ran around them completely ignoring them, but in the end this quest wasn't completed. If it counts towards "Total completion", that would suck if player didn't notice that.

Don't be offended but i frankly don't believe you. I don't believe you found the space to RUN beyond the slimes AND complete the level WITHOUT getting even one unit killed by them in the process!! I'm 100000% sure every player in the whole world and in Warcraft history faced those Slimes as soon as they came out of the Fog of War, clogging their way. Even if you walked all the way back you can't outrun them: they leash back, eventually, and even if you cheese them back and forth with the spearmen the timer is set on purpose!

- In mission 10 enemy Cleric was healing my Raider, lolwut?

Well, as you're saying this happened to you only once in the entire campaign, so it's ok. I know why this happened, but i won't spoil it.

- In secret mission 2 the whole escape sequence felt dragged out and complete copy of mission 8 with nothing new to add, and pretty pointless because these two brigands die outside in the next cutscene anyway. Also, if during mission one of them dies, it should cause gameover, because you need both of them alive to step on the buttons.

Not really a copy. This time you have 2 units to manage and there are also footmen patrolling around, not just archers. Old warcrafts had this curious feature where you were dead and unable to finish the map, yet still able to keep playing it. You're not supposed to know why you have to keep both alive till the end, yet why there's two of them?
The same you should say if you press the buttons at the beginning of the map without knowing the purpose of it, like Jayborino did in its first attempt.
Anyway, you're obviously not supposed to know IN ADVANCE that there's no happy ending to those guys, but they were the protagonists of it, and not Garona. The secret maps are focused on the Brigands' actions, involving both Orcs and Humans(reflecting the title of the game).
By the way: did you try to save both footmen and Grunts in the first map? Didn't hear you mentioning that. That's also what makes it somewhat flexible.
Also, NO RATING for this campaign?

 

[AbsolutePsycho]

Raise dead spell on ai doesn't normally work, so i had to manually recreate the whole process using triggers, and it took some coding on its own. The result is that when any unit dies within a fixed range away of the necrolyte(with enough mana), it generates a skeleton and takes away the needed mana. In this way the same happens even if the necrolyte himself dies but he still has enough mana for the spell.

I expected something like this. In that case the mistake you made is not checking if necrolyte is alive, which should be easy to fix.

Yet i'm surprised you found it out just now and not in the Human campaign, where you have to deal with them for almost its entire duration. That's good.

I did notice it in Human campaign actually, but just forgot to mention it there

I know but there is nothing i can do about it. Every Artillery-type weapon in wc3 squishes units upon kill.

Hmm, just checked, it seems to be hardcoded with "Can/Can't raise, Does decay" and "Weapon Type: Artillery". No easy workaround... :|

I don't believe you found the space to RUN beyond the slimes AND complete the level WITHOUT getting even one unit killed by them in the process!!

Well, believe it or not, I did it. No cheats, if you were implying that.
For me at that moment, on the contrary, it seemed that the best solution NOT TO FIGHT the slimes (because I couldn't possible know that all my units would be healed), so I thought it was some trick.

Even if you walked all the way back you can't outrun them: they leash back

No, they lost aggro, if I didn't attack them for a long time.

did you try to save both footmen and Grunts in the first map?

If you mean secret level 1, I saved all of them in cage1 (approached from the south, ignored spearmen, broke the wall, then spearmen get despawned), lost almost all of them in cage2 (not possible to me, too much fighting guards, can't ignore them), saved all except 1 in cage3 (rushed to the wall again).

Also, NO RATING for this campaign?

Totally forgot about that. Too much typing, haha.