Warcraft: Orcs and Humans

putoconcarne · Oct 29, 2009

Not sure if this has been fixed already, but change the hotkey for the Cleric's Healing Ability from "H" to "E" (if that's not taken yet). H is already the hotkey for Hold Position and so it shouldn't be used anymore otherwise every time I press H to make the unit go on Hold Position, my Clerics are ordered to Heal instead. I don't recall anymore but if there are, well go fix 'em.

Also, just for polish, I suggest that you use hotkeys that are located on the left part of the alphabetical keys to help those who are too lazy (i.e. me) to extend their fingers to the letter "I". Not that it matters, it's just kinda easier that way...

Lastly, nerf the Siege Weapons. Some have noticed it too, apparently. Yeah, they're supposed to be strong like Artillery are in real life but they seem to be too good at killing loads of units when they're ideally mostly for taking out bases and defenses. Of course, I haven't played WarCraft I so I'm not sure if they're really supposed to be that strong.

Anyway, 4/5. It's fun and it's a great rendition (?) of the original game.

supertoinkz · Oct 30, 2009

yer, they are that strong

also, prepare for a big update this Sunday

EDIT: Updated it early >.>, also when would this be reviewed?

Tleno · Oct 30, 2009

Ask Bounty Hunter or ap0calypse...

Ironside · Oct 30, 2009

Review requested by author.

Barathrum's Review (Map Reviewer)

Description (Includes THW description, map description and Loading Screen):"

THW Description: The Hive description uses changelog, screenshots, enough text (+4/4)
Map Description: This one is pretty empty so better improve it (+0.5/3)
Loading Screen: <Empty> (+0/3

All together for these 3: 4.5/10

Terrain:

Well the terrain looked ok to me... (+10/10)

Gameplay:

Well as for the races, perhaps some custom models would be great, then also I'd like to see some hints & a quest menu... Perhaps even a leader/multiboard... (+7/10)

Quest menu, Hints:

Quest menu: None (+0/5)
Hints: None (+0/5)

Aditional Information:

Score Board:

0%-49% = 1/5 vote for rejection
50%-60% = 2/5 but i vote for either Rejected or Aproved
61%-70% = 2/5 but i vote for Aproval
71%-80% = 3/5 vote for aproval
81%-92% = 4/5 vote for aproval
93%-100% = 5/5 vote for aproval

Results:

Total: 21.5/40
= 53,75%

Vote for Aproval?= Yes
Vote for Rejection?= No

Map Rating: 2 (Lacking)

supertoinkz · Oct 31, 2009

updated
LOWERZ FILESIZEZ

also new batch of screenies

Trilby · Oct 31, 2009

I cant train knights, even though I have a stables and blacksmith.
Also Trees never die. No matter how many peasants are chopping the tree, it will never fall. That is all.

supertoinkz · Oct 31, 2009

well, the trees hp was 99999999
well if u say so, i'll set it to 99999

well, im not on WE today, i'll fix those bugs

Tleno · Oct 31, 2009

I don't rember trees dying in WC1...

supertoinkz · Oct 31, 2009

they die
i already played all warcraft gaemz (except wow)

Tleno · Oct 31, 2009

Good thing. Wow wouls steal your soul! Boo!

CloudMax · Oct 31, 2009

tleno said:
Good thing. Wow wouls steal your soul! Boo!

That is one of the worst myths ever tbh :O
I have played it for 5 years, i just quit playing it when i feel like not playing it.
Its just if you dont have anything else to do, you continue playing it until you find something more fun to do for a change

And in this case you should not count wow in the list, becouse i think your a RTS gamer and not a MMORPG gamer, huh?

They are entierly different games, but they all appear in the same "world" :>

So you can still say that you have played all Wc3 RTS games!

supertoinkz · Oct 31, 2009

Imma also planning to convert Battle Realms

but after the one in mah signature

Tleno · Nov 1, 2009

Hmmm, so you're a professional converter now?

supertoinkz · Nov 2, 2009

LoL

conversion is fun

Kuritany · Nov 2, 2009

Awsome map! It need more units to be more funny but it's awready much cool.
I don't understand why we get resorces 100 by 100... Why?
4/5 :infl_thumbs_up:

CloudMax · Nov 2, 2009

Kuritany said:
Awsome map! It need more units to be more funny but it's awready much cool.
I don't understand why we get resorces 100 by 100... Why?
4/5

Becouse you feel almighty when you have 10.000 resources insted of 1.000!

Lol.

Well, yeah, i asked the same thing, didnt get an answer :O
I dont see the reason in using an extra 0 in the end of everything xD

Trilby · Nov 2, 2009

It was like that in Warcrafts 1 and 2.

CloudMax · Nov 2, 2009

Trilby said:
It was like that in Warcrafts 1 and 2.

I know that but it is just an useless flaw that was in wc1 & wc2.
Why do you think they changed in wc3? becouse it was just stupid.
And it would just be easier if it wasnt a 0 after everything in the entire map, without a good reason :s

supertoinkz · Nov 2, 2009

well, the costs of the units always at the power of 100 (if u know math).

Trilby · Nov 4, 2009

It made things seem not-cheap. I'd rather get a grunt that costs 600 gold than one that costs 60.
And they changed it in wc3 is that things don't seem overpriced. A 2500 Gold Grunt? D:

CloudMax · Nov 4, 2009

Trilby said:
It made things seem not-cheap. I'd rather get a grunt that costs 600 gold than one that costs 60.
And they changed it in wc3 is that things don't seem overpriced. A 2500 Gold Grunt? D:

That was not the reason to why they did in in wc3.
They removed useless factors from the game making it more simple aswell.
I dont want to sit there counting how many 0 the items cost without a reason.

But its the creator that choose not we, so w/e.
I just said that it seem useless to have an extra 0 on every single thing in the entire freaking map without any reason at all :O

supertoinkz · Nov 4, 2009

prepare for another big update
-better techtree system
-all models would be changed
-bigger filesize

I got the models from a friend. Im still finding WC1 sounds and musics.

CloudMax · Nov 4, 2009

supertoinkz said:
prepare for another big update
-better techtree system
-all models would be changed
-bigger filesize

I got the models from a friend. Im still finding WC1 sounds and musics.

Sounds nice.

Except for the music.. why use warcraft 1 music that takes alot of space when you simply can use the music from warcraft 3? Both is warcraft after all and i rather have a map with lower filesize than a map with a song from warcraft 1 insted of warcraft 3.

And do not forget to give credit to the creators of the models!

supertoinkz · Nov 4, 2009

The pack --- gave me costs 31.5 MB
I'm sure it has lots of custom textures.
So I'll use my modeling skills (little but <3) to UV wrap it to original textures.

Also I still need to make a trigger that will alert the player when an enemy is nearby.

EDIT: -~~All models would be changed~~ Not all, only cleric :C (I don't wanna make my map's filesize go up)

Trilby · Nov 5, 2009

LTGH said:
That was not the reason to why they did in in wc3.
They removed useless factors from the game making it more simple aswell.
I dont want to sit there counting how many 0 the items cost without a reason.

But its the creator that choose not we, so w/e.
I just said that it seem useless to have an extra 0 on every single thing in the entire freaking map without any reason at all :O

Ok, then, but I don't have a problem with it.

supertoinkz · Nov 5, 2009

Okay, I have some bad news, when I patched 1.24, I can't save it D:
If someone wants to help me fix it, pm me.
I'll also trust him the map

CloudMax · Nov 6, 2009

supertoinkz said:
Okay, I have some bad news, when I patched 1.24, I can't save it D:
If someone wants to help me fix it, pm me.
I'll also trust him the map

Maybe some information?
What World Editor?
Do you use any add-ons for the WE?
Are you using custom triggers?

Do you get any error messages etc?

Many things could cause the map to be unable to save.

supertoinkz · Nov 6, 2009

fixed it

i reinstalled my wc3
I also got small modeling skills and might make building models. ^^

supertoinkz · Nov 9, 2009

The estimated relase date of a new version is tomorrow (GM+8) afternoon 5:00 pm (^^)

Changes:
-Rain of fire/Poison Cloud uses a new system
-Fixed the techtree system, it works now
-Changed the Cleric model
-Added 2 heroes, Grand Marshal and High Warlord (still no skills >.>)
-Added Creeps
-Added a pawnshop in the middle where it buys your items ^^
-The two Minor Summoning spells uses new system
-Added a new "Kill a Critter" trigger

-Improved AI (They beat me now D

-Changed the colors;
Human: Blue, Teal, Sky blue
Orc: Red, Orange, Yellow

Please wait ^^

Trilby · Nov 10, 2009

Cool. I saw your Cleric model, but I think it got rejected D:
I downloaded it, and it looks cool, but it looks like a dwarf. D:

supertoinkz · Nov 10, 2009

yeah, it got rejected D:, DonDustin said it's body wrap is so messy

Trilby · Nov 11, 2009

Huh. But why does it look like a dwarf?

supertoinkz · Nov 11, 2009

Because its head is from the mortar team....

BEHOLD, THE ULTIMATE UPDATE!

See Changelog for changes made (its big)
Also, two more and it would be like Warcraft 1
If you want to help me achieve that, pm me. :>

Kazzo · Nov 11, 2009

nice map i think but i can't play it i think is because my version of the game!

Trilby · Nov 11, 2009

Yeah, that's a huge problem. You can't play it on either versions 1.24 or 1.23 DX

CloudMax · Nov 11, 2009

Trilby said:
Yeah, that's a huge problem. You can't play it on either versions 1.24 or 1.23 DX

Then someone should fix that, and that would be fast :O
Becouse the map should be compatible with the last version of warcraft 3 or the map doesnt really belong here :S

I mean, its not THAT hard to fix... Just redo the triggers that needs to be redone

supertoinkz · Nov 11, 2009

Oo
I'll redo it
can someone pastebin me (6)Andorhal.w3x ?

Numerion · Nov 11, 2009

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=ynvojz

There ya go

supertoinkz · Nov 11, 2009

please wait
I still have classes :C
Numerion tnx!

supertoinkz · Nov 12, 2009

fixed
i wish it would work D:

Edit: Update ^^

slake · Nov 13, 2009

lol realy nice map i like the style much but more custom models pls
and keep updating this map shurely has future
oh and i give you a 4/5

supertoinkz · Nov 13, 2009

im so happy it works ^^
well about the models, i'm still requesting the Dawn of Chaos creators to borrow their models

Trilby · Nov 14, 2009

It's still not working for me.

putoconcarne · Nov 14, 2009

^ Not working for me either... I tried to update the game with the latest patch but still doesn't work.

supertoinkz · Nov 14, 2009

wth is happening D:
i think i'll redo the map

Thazrog · Nov 14, 2009

lol havent played ur map or even DL'ed it, but I hate u becoz ur map has like 40more DL's than mine permanently!! u bastard!

looks nice tho, sigh wish people could rate my damn map 2 0.o

supertoinkz · Nov 14, 2009

GOOOOOOOOOOOD NEWS!

It works now! ^^
tnx to LTGH and Forgotten_Warlord for their efforts for testing the map
see changelog ^^
Remember to report bugs

Also, I'm currently working on the road system

*Edit: If I add the planned road system, it would be a big problem for the AI, so any ideas is open for an alternate road system

I will change the blight texture to something like dirt, then use the channel to build a unit with no model (only ground texture) at the target point. That unit will make the blight.

putoconcarne · Nov 14, 2009

It works.

Apir.

supertoinkz · Nov 14, 2009

(ulol ^^)

well, I got the blacksmith model finished ( i made it)
will go now make barracks

Trilby · Nov 14, 2009

It works now.

It's pretty awesome and I like the new Models.
btw, the R in Orcs is capitalized in your sig D:
EDIT: Cheat enabled you wascally wabbit lol

Warcraft: Orcs and Humans

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