Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[RED BARON]

Keep up?
Wait...didn't this project died already?

No real progress for like......half a year? Only words....only words...

Well writing does it too As it shows they are at least still considering it and thereby properly also working on it behind the curtain.

 

[dead-man-walking]

Keep up?
Wait...didn't this project died already?

No real progress for like......half a year? Only words....only words...

If you know that its dying already, why did you support it on the first place...?

 

[Brombie]

Fall of Draenor is a total game modification that includes totally new tilesets, four new races and 5 campaigns

Just completing one map takes a very large amount of spare time, and not least, dedication...

 

[dead-man-walking]

Just completing one map takes a very large amount of spare time, and not least, dedication...

Attention to you and all other people who just piss on this:
Keep. Your. Bullshit. To. Yourself.

We don't want to see you angsting over "OH GOD IT TAKES SO LONG OH WAIT YOU ARE JUST GREEDY FOR MODELS LOLOLOLOLOL". Fuck that. Keep it on your own ass. This thread is for actual feedback. If you want to pester Al, then pester him instead of angsting and bullshitting everywhere.

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[tommynator]

Attention to you and all other people who just piss on this:
Keep. Your. Bullshit. To. Yourself.

We don't want to see you angsting over "OH GOD IT TAKES SO LONG OH WAIT YOU ARE JUST GREEDY FOR MODELS LOLOLOLOLOL". Fuck that. Keep it on your own ass. This thread is for actual feedback. If you want to pester Al, then pester him instead of angsting and bullshitting everywhere.

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[JokeMaster]

In the world there are two types of leaders: cowards who say forward! and heroes who scream Follow me! Alagrem is one of the first type. Yeas he has a team but he isn't working on the project. We have no skinners, how do you want to make a mod without skinners?? This was going to fall shortly after it came up.

 

[Cthulus]

While I can (SOMEWHAT) agree with your metaphor usage there, I'd have to say that the reason Fall of Draenor is really slowing down to a near-halt is because it's become understaffed.. half of you so-called 'project members' have taken a hiatus from the project for a number of reasons, and the other half just isn't active anymore

Al tried to get a skinner, if you hadn't noticed. And now we have one or two independent skinners actually helping out, last I checked. In addition, he's made it abundantly clear that he isn't a modeler or a programmer, some of the most basic and important roles the mod requires. Which is why your "absence" brings the project closer to it's demise.

He can't do those things himself, pretty much. The things that Al can do mostly depend on those other things I mentioned, which the staff contributes. Plus, why should he try to work hard if everyone would rather be off doing their own thing, but still want to be a staff member?

Think about it, guys. Please.

 

[deepstrasz]

Now listen, I'm sure there are a lot of skinners and whatever the mod needs. Al should just break time and get them. I would continue doing my part then.

 

[The World Is Flat]

I will help however i can, this project should not fail.

 

[Wolfe]

Yes, there are plenty of skinners out there and plenty of coders, modelers, etc. But how many do you think are actually still interested in WC3? Or better yet, a massive campaign that requires full focus and determination? Fall of Draenor has not shown much progress to us and a lot of artists and other modders are put off by that. It isn't just as simple as stopping and recruiting.

 

[deepstrasz]

Listen daddio, this project can be done by one man if he really has time to learn model and skin creation. The rest is just plank. Don't say that everyone is not interested if you're not. It's not about recruiting, though if payment is what some would want then that explains the motivation absence.

 

[Orly_YaRly]

I supported this project when it was still alive. I hoped it will be released and that it will be the most awesome thing so far....

...but SC II got released.
With advanced graphics, map editor and else, the Warcraft is slowly dying out. Not to mention the WC III project. So many people left WC III for SC II already that many maps and mods are abandoned....

...it's sad.

 

[deepstrasz]

It's stupid. Two different universes and various game modes that can be created in both or just in one of them.

 

[JokeMaster]

And how do i see alagremm wasn't active since the last 2 or 3 pages wich means he's not interested in the mod. If he would he would do something to keep this thing alive, and if he is not who elshe should be??

 

[Bernkastel]

Pfff... This is getting pretty scary, cause if this will actually fail im going sad and then i will find and kill Alagremm, so i suggest you to wake up there wherever you are Alagremm! >:/

 

[kingbdogz]

Pfff... This is getting pretty scary, cause if this will actually fail im going sad and then i will find and kill Alagremm, so i suggest you to wake up there wherever you are Alagremm! >:/

You're threatening to kill him over a modification project that he does in his own free-time? Crazy.

3 weeks doesn't mean it's failed. Heck, 3 months doesn't mean it's failed, just things haven't been going as smooth as he planned. Until Alagremm announces it is dead then it's still alive. Give him a rest, he said he had a nasty virus and is still recovering.

 

[Bernkastel]

Well.. Honestly it bores the hell out of me when i simply see new models and stuff, but i cant see any of the maps and stuff getting any kind of progress -.-'

Cause imo the models arent the most important as they could have temporary models until the models are made.

And yea.. Ofcourse im crazy, and also ofcourse i was serious about killing him

 

[kingbdogz]

Well.. Honsetly it bores the hell out of me when i simply see new models and stuff, but i cant see any of the maps and stuff getting any kind of progress -.-'

Cause imo the models arent the most important as they could have temporary models until the models are made.

And yea.. Ofcourse im crazy, and also ofcourse i was serious about killing him

Wow fuck off, don't tell me you'd seriously kill him over a fucking mod. Go do something with you're life.

Models are extremely important to a full-conversion modification, and maps are the easiest part.

 

[deepstrasz]

You realize this is becoming a complaint thread. Also Alagremm does whatever he likes. I, we whatever want to see his demise written and this thread closed if he doesn't wish to continue. From now on, no more silly questions and posts.
Comprende ?

 

[Bernkastel]

Wth.. Ofcourse i wasnt serious about killing him -.-'
and if you truly want me to fuck off then i can do that, if you so persistantly want it.
All i simply meant was that i'd want to see some actual progress by others aswell...

 

[kingbdogz]

It's hard to tell sarcasm over the internet, poorly written text doesn't suffice.

Regardless, I'm sorry I jumped out on you. I hope you can forgive me. :/

 

[AIagremm]

Actually I havent been posting in this thread lately since I(seemingly correctly) was expecting people to begin flaming me.

And no, the mod isnt dead. HoS has been in development since 2003, yet no one said it was dead. I had little time lately, but let me assure you, I am working on the storyline and concepts for skills and models.

Speaking of concepts, I have a matter that you people could be of assistance in. The main character of the draenei campiagn is still not made and I had an idea of making Nobundo the main hero of the campiagn. I propose this since he seems to be an important person as he lead the defence of Shattrath. Would you want to see him as the main character?

 

[deepstrasz]

The master has spoken ! All heed the call ! Hail !

 

[JokeMaster]

Deepblade shut up...Kingbdogz shut up...Garshilian shut up...
You're guys are so annoying!

To the Nobundo thing i think a mix of Akama, Nobundo,Velen(2,3 misions) also Vindicator Maraad and Karsius the Ancient Watcher could be used(they don't must be playable).

 

[The World Is Flat]

Glad your back Al!

 

[Deolrin]

Kingbdogz shut up...

Seriously; huh? What did Kingbdogz do? Last time I checked he was defending Allagremm.

 

[deepstrasz]

So we'll begin at Velen's run away then ? Fall of Draenor implies events before that too. A change of name then ?

 

[Bernkastel]

Hmm.. Indeed. Hail to the Lorekeeper!
And King.. Just that i dont really care about things that people say to me or the things that they say about me, as i experience that in real life pretty much i mostly simply ignore these things, so there is no reason to apology.

Uhh.. And now i get more stuff like shut up and etc. also i was the one whining here, so dont blame others for the things i say here. -.-'

 

[JokeMaster]

Seriously; huh? What did Kingbdogz do? Last time I checked he was defending Allagremm.

Becouse those 3 begin silly discussions...Ah fuck the best way to have order is to shut up. So no more words from me.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Do you acually have any maps done?

 

[RED BARON]

I have no idea.. how my post for something else ended up being switched around.. But heck.. Just ignore this one for now.

 

[GhostThruster]

Wow, I haven't been around FoD for a long time.
Alagremm probably won't remember me...
But I've been reading the previous few pages. Guys, why is there so much arguing in this thread? Seriously, it's like a battlefield. Go to any other project thread, and there's no disputes. Let the man do his job.
And so what if progress is slow, so what if the project may die? Are you guys gonna cry like wimps? Why don't you let Alagremm work and kill your boredom and impatience by playing some SC2 and studying? Or do what I did, play a few hours of the Hive's DC maps.

Good luck on the project Alagremm. I hope people stop harassing you. Perhaps you can create your own hero for the lore. It's before WC3 and WoW, and Draenor gets exploded, so you can just say at the end of the campaign that the Draenei hero dies.

Offtopic: Um, also, I'm curious. Do mods EVER come in this thread? The amount of f words is astounding!

 

[RED BARON]

Well Hiver modders really don't care about swearing.. as long as its stays on topic. (Yea, this post was also switched around, but changed it to the correct).

But I agree that impatience is sad, since its amazing that they are still going - as I've written before.

 

[kingbdogz]

Offtopic: Um, also, I'm curious. Do mods EVER come in this thread? The amount of f words is astounding!

I'm pretty sure swearing is allowed at the Hive as long as it's not too overboard. Come on, we're all gamers. Gamers swear, even the little 10 year olds.

Becouse those 3 begin silly discussions...Ah fuck the best way to have order is to shut up. So no more words from me.

I didn't "start" the silly discussion. I'm sorry, but I didn't know it was wrong to defend Alagremm after I thought he was being threatened because of his inactivity.

 

[Wolfe]

kingbdogz, no. It isn't wrong to defend Alagremm from the hordes of impatient people who fail to comprehend the immensities and trials a campaign exhibits in its creation. But how could they understand? Have they ever created a fully-fledged campaign? No.

From now on, and I think Alagremm would very much appreciate this, if you don't have something productive or contributory to this modification, then don't say anything at all.

 

[rcshaggy]

A campaign doesn't take like a snap of fingers like most people say.
It takes time, so be patient.
Al and his loyalists will get back to this when they can.

So shut up and talk of something productive. Go read a book or play some other stuff.

 

[JokeMaster]

kingbdogz, no. It isn't wrong to defend Alagremm from the hordes of impatient people who fail to comprehend the immensities and trials a campaign exhibits in its creation. But how could they understand? Have they ever created a fully-fledged campaign? No.

From now on, and I think Alagremm would very much appreciate this, if you don't have something productive or contributory to this modification, then don't say anything at all.

I have created a campaign together with 2 guys in something about 2 weeks.

 

[Wolfe]

I have created a campaign together with 2 guys in something about 2 weeks.

Was that campaign a complete modification? Complete, balanced new races with a complete new set of models, textures, UI, etc.? Five whole new campaigns with nine or so maps? Was that campaign even good? Who knows. But I doubt you recreated everything in just two weeks. Besides, I'm sure you were undisturbed and your team were fully committed to the campaign. But, nevermind. This is extremely off-topic and I honestly don't care about what you've accomplished, I only care what Alagremm and his team ARE accomplishing.

Back to the point, I wish you all luck on this mod. ^.^

 

[GhostThruster]

JokeMaster, you're part of the team! Why the hell are you mocking Alagremm, when you're part of the freakin project?

Alagremm, if you read this post, perhaps you might think of just releasing a demo map. Nothing fancy. Just add like 1 race only and just a few basic systems to satisfy people's hunger and prove that there is progress. The map can be protected and like 2v2, and even if those damn nerds get deprotectors, if you add minimal(though not non-existent) content, they won' have much to steal from.

 

[deepstrasz]

Lord Pyritie send your wrath to clean the THREAD !

 

[Pyritie]

Lord Pyritie send your wrath to clean the THREAD !

no go away

 

[RED BARON]

Lord Pyritie send your wrath to clean the THREAD !

Well they are still talking about the map project and it keeps the thread active. So not that required.

 

[JokeMaster]

Was that campaign a complete modification? Complete, balanced new races with a complete new set of models, textures, UI, etc.? Five whole new campaigns with nine or so maps? Was that campaign even good? Who knows. But I doubt you recreated everything in just two weeks. Besides, I'm sure you were undisturbed and your team were fully committed to the campaign. But, nevermind. This is extremely off-topic and I honestly don't care about what you've accomplished, I only care what Alagremm and his team ARE accomplishing.

Back to the point, I wish you all luck on this mod. ^.^

The campaign wasn't the best becouse the cinematics couldn't be skipped, we had some probems wirth the triggers and so but the rest was made. We were undisturbed coz we worked on vacation .

JokeMaster, you're part of the team! Why the hell are you mocking Alagremm, when you're part of the freakin project?

Piss of dude it's my thing what do i think...If you have a problem with it go and say it to your mommy...

 

[AIagremm]

Seeing as this thread is active as never before, and even the mighty mod has visited us, I have to make this announcement.

FALL OF DRAENOR NEEDS GOOD MAPMAKERS FOR CAMPAIGN MAKING AND TESTING
Sorry, it took me so long to do this fellows.
Anyway, though I can terrain myself, a good playable map terrainer would be perfect. Mostly we need people who know how to work with GUI and perhaps JASS, as well as Object Editor, to test the techtrees.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Acually, i had a guy like you on my project.
(not saying you do, but he did this
Mocked my leadership
The other team members.
Did nothing, said he did.
I fired him.

I would suggest you cool off. Not saying you do nothing (cause you do)
But that doesent mean you have to be a bitch to al.

 

[JokeMaster]

Seeing as this thread is active as never before, and even the mighty mod has visited us, I have to make this announcement.

FALL OF DRAENOR NEEDS GOOD MAPMAKERS FOR CAMPAIGN MAKING AND TESTING
Sorry, it took me so long to do this fellows.
Anyway, though I can terrain myself, a good playable map terrainer would be perfect. Mostly we need people who know how to work with GUI and perhaps JASS, as well as Object Editor, to test the techtrees.

Wanna se my Black Morrass??

 

[AIagremm]

Huh? Sure...

 

[JokeMaster]

Here ya go:
(It was made in 3-4 hours and it has to be finished[Don't even look on the second map it's almost empty ] but now i don't have enough time)

 

[Bernkastel]

I was just wondering that i could terrain some non-outdoor places if needed.. As i cant really find an inspiration for the Ogre and Arakkoa UI <.<

 

[JokeMaster]

Arrakoa eggs feathers, sticks, broken wood/trees. and purple runes.
For ogres broken bones, chains teeth and stones you cann also add maces.Maybe a bit of blood.