Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[AIagremm]

Signoftheend, JokeMaster. The Orcish Clans campaign will have shamans and pyremasters. Orcish Horde camapign will have warlocks and necrolytes.

Well I mean that we need to remake the Kennel. It looks just great, but doesnt quite look uncorrupted-orcish. Plus we could add a throught(you know the thingy with water for animals). A windmill also could has been added, but I think that would be kinda too much.

Well Im still not sure about the Peak idea, so we'll do it later.

Shaman building... actually I dont know. I have two variants:
1.Shaman building like in Garadar

Shaman building

2.Some sort of Spirit Lodge kind of building.

Also here are some other building screens.

Kennel

Tower

 

[signoftheend]

Signoftheend, JokeMaster. The Orcish Clans campaign will have shamans and pyremasters. Orcish Horde camapign will have warlocks and necrolytes.

Okay, that's good. I was afraid the Clans would be demonic and the Horde would be shamanistic, and all of us lore freaks would get all pissy and stuff.

 

[AIagremm]

Dude, did you see my user title? Its between my name Alagremm and my avatar.

 

[signoftheend]

Yeah, that's true... I think I was thinking more along the lines of gameplay reasons, and not being able to decide on other spellcasters. And some of the earlier posts made it seem like they were going to be put together. You, more than anyone, would be completely unlikely to mess with lore for any reason.

 

[AIagremm]

Well we are going to have a special system.
In the beginning of a melee game you are able to build Shaman Rise. If you build it you are able to train shamans and pyremasters. However after you built it you are able to build another building - Warlock Shrine. If you built it you are able to build warlocks and necrolytes, but your Shaman Rise becomes useless - you cant do anything in it and that final. Even if you destroy all your warlocks and Shrines you still wont be able to build shamans or pyremasters again. If you choose the dark way by building the Shrine, your shamans become warlocks and your pyremasters become necrolytes.

 

[Hjorleif]

That's neat. Good idea, having a choice between light and dark, basically.

 

[kingbdogz]

Well we are going to have a special system.
In the beginning of a melee game you are able to build Shaman Rise. If you build it you are able to train shamans and pyremasters. However after you built it you are able to build another building - Warlock Shrine. If you built it you are able to build warlocks and necrolytes, but your Shaman Rise becomes useless - you cant do anything in it and that final. Even if you destroy all your warlocks and Shrines you still wont be able to build shamans or pyremasters again. If you choose the dark way by building the Shrine, your shamans become warlocks and your pyremasters become necrolytes.

Sounds like my pathing system

Signoftheend, JokeMaster. The Orcish Clans campaign will have shamans and pyremasters. Orcish Horde camapign will have warlocks and necrolytes.

Well I mean that we need to remake the Kennel. It looks just great, but doesnt quite look uncorrupted-orcish. Plus we could add a throught(you know the thingy with water for animals). A windmill also could has been added, but I think that would be kinda too much.

Well Im still not sure about the Peak idea, so we'll do it later.

Shaman building... actually I dont know. I have two variants:
1.Shaman building like in Garadar

Shaman building

2.Some sort of Spirit Lodge kind of building.

Also here are some other building screens.

Kennel

Tower

Are those in-game? If so nice! The new graphics in my modification are similar, yours is a little better though.

 

[AIagremm]

What pathing system?

No those are screens from WoW xD
The orcs of Outland never changed their architecture, so their buildings are just like they were before the First War.

 

[kingbdogz]

What pathing system?

http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=143759

No those are screens from WoW xD
The orcs of Outland never changed their architecture, so their buildings are just like they were before the First War.

Haha, sorry I've never played WoW.

My graphics are actually pretty similar to those screenshots though, we've been working hard to improve them.

 

[AIagremm]

They are? Intriguing.

Anyway, as I understand the pathing system is making two ways of progressing? I planned something similar for FoD as well - arakkoa can choose between Terokk or Rukhmar, Ogres can choose between freedom and Gronn, Draenei can choose between Light and eredar magic and orcs can choose between shamanism and warlock powers, however somehow I forgot about it.

 

[MogulKahn]

This tower is for Orcs?

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, they look like it. In my opinion they are quite interesting.

 

[MogulKahn]

I think its very good.I dont know who is modeler (maybe JokeMaster) but its epic.But i dont understand shaman house(tree with roots?) and we ll have Maghar orcs or just fel orcs (or noram greenskins!)?

 

[AIagremm]

Those are WoW models, for pity sake! Im just showing the concept for our buildings!

Shaman thingy is rather made out of stone. Its like two natural archs combined.

We will have uncorrupted orcs(who are in modern times called mag'har) and green orcs in the campaign. Fel orcs didnt exist back then.

 

[MogulKahn]

K man!
I was thinking this is house.xD

 

[lightning brigade]

Hey guys it's Lightning, just so you know I play wow, so I can glean some lore from outland, and if they truly "never changed their arcitechture" then they would be the perfect source of ideas for our models. I can take some screens of mag'har village if you wish alagremm.

 

[AIagremm]

Nah, I have WoW as well, plus for those of you who have Burning Crusade installed, I'd highly recommend to download WoW Map Viewer.
I use it to check out mag'har and draenei architecture, Outand and stuff.

 

[JokeMaster]

I have WOTLK and there is only 1 thing wron i cannot export those models! (if i could we would have more things to base on)

 

[Mulgrim]

get the word "export" out of your vocabulary, we're not using them, we should try to be as original as we can, which means designing our units. like the clefthoof model.

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. Also, I just hit a jackpot with one fellow, who wishes to donate a load of Nagrand doodads to us. They include fully animated trees, rocks, doublearchway of shamans and cool flying islands, which we sadly dont need.
The only minus is that trees have WoW skin, however it is easy to change.

 

[Cthulus]

Sounds like a good idea. Should we make custom skins for them, or use Blizzard skins?

 

[Mulgrim]

that depends uf we can't find any in game, personally though i prefer to make my own

 

[AIagremm]

I garee with Mulgrim.

 

[Mulgrim]

i'm gona try and storm some ideas this week for systems, thoughts on systems anyone?

 

[AIagremm]

Glad you mentioned it *wink*

Anyway, I'd like to show some shaman concepts I found.

Shaman

Shaman 2

Shaman 3

All three are very good.

 

[Mulgrim]

right I was thinking more

but with a long hood that runs down as a pelt-cape on the back, 2 chains running down the collarbones from the hood, same naked/tattooed design and a robe bottom. I'd plan to make the face alpha-shaded so it doesn't reveal the whole face. It's hard to explain, i'll try my hand at drawing it if I find time.

 

[AIagremm]

Hm... intriguing. However this guy actually looks more like a pyremaster to me.

 

[takakenji]

he looks like a runemaster, actually

 

[Mulgrim]

that's cause he is a runemaster.

what's a pyremaster?

and are we just going to reskin the current shaman then? or another wolf helm?

 

[AIagremm]

Yes, but orcs dont have runemasters, but they do have pyremasters and his runes and eyes look fiery.

 

[Cthulus]

That last one.. something like that would be great.
Maybe with a wolf pelt and some bracers, but otherwise perfect, IMO.

 

[GhostThruster]

Those concept art picture are like a fusion of Beastmaster, Druid of the Claw, and, well, Shaman. You can make a simple edit out of the Beastmaster model; change its skin, remove axes and swap with claws, and change the body stature and add/remove some animations.

 

[Mulgrim]

? orcs have runemasters, but rare. http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Runemaster that concept I showed is one

 

[AIagremm]

Here's the list of orcish classes: Hunter, Rogue, Shaman, Warlock, Warrior, Death Knight, Blademaster, Farseer, Peon, Raider, Wind rider, Grunt, Necrolyte, Beastmaster, Pyremaster, Spirit champion, Barbarian, Bone crusher, Berserker, Necromancer, Assassin, Spymaster

However some can exist.

 

[lightning brigade]

I downloaded image three cause I liked it best. I am going to edit it in GIMP because I found some awesome stuff I could do to images. Still experimenting. When we need voice actors this may come in handy

Also, when I was fiddling with an image I found on the internet and made this because I wanted to show you an example of what GIMP could do.

 

[AIagremm]

Intriguing, however the parchment looks like dried-out clay.

 

[lightning brigade]

I'm sorry about that, I failed to clothify it correctly. Although I can't imagine denizens of draenor having paper seeing as their seems to be no papyrus. Not to mention there seems to be very few true trees. Rather fungi have taken over. In my opinion, they would use something a little akin to clay, as it would be quite annoying for races to go to nagrand from zangarmarsh as that could take days. Also, hellfire shows evidence of being, with zangarmarsh, a land of fungi. Another study shows that the terrokar trees are too large to be able to be cut down quickly. Conclusion: I believe that it would be hard for draenor denizens to gain parchment or paper quickly, but we could add it in for lore reasons as there were many tree-bearing areas on draenor. It is perfectly plausible, it just has some very tiny hassles.

EDIT: I fixed up the picture and now it's looks more like sandpaper or rough cloth.

 

[AIagremm]

Well parchments are also used in Warcraft, in places where it coldnt even has been brought.

Hey, check out what I found out while checking stuff in the Internet!

Great Troll War

It appears it is for the Warcraft III window that opens while WCIII is opened.

 

[kingbdogz]

Hey, check out what I found out while checking stuff in the Internet!

Great Troll War

It appears it is for the Warcraft III window that opens while WCIII is opened.

I think you are referring to the splash?

 

[AIagremm]

Right, I completely forgot how it was called.

Nicely made, isnt it? Even better then the WCIII's ones.

 

[Mulgrim]

so that would replace the screen that comes up when you start up wc3? i dont get it

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, it does.

NEWS: Fall of Draenor is also represented on Mod DB now!
I created it only yesterday and it is already ranked 94 of 11,186!
The images were viewed 365 times and there were 158 visitors! And to think it was only approved today, it is now on the third place on the list of WCIII mods.

 

[takakenji]

nice!

 

[dead-man-walking]

33 of 11,188, for real?!

OH.
MAH.
GAWD.
WUT.
TEH.
FCUK.
BBQ.

 

[supertoinkz]

that splash, hmmmm, I'll search the mpq how to replace that

 

[MogulKahn]

Gj Ala!

 

[Joss]

1337th post above ^

Anyway, you guys will be able to check out the sample FoD music I'm making soon, and to get a glimpse at a pice of my music, head over to noteflight.com, take 2 seconds to make an account (its free), and search for Omens W.I.P.

 

[lightning brigade]

Okay so I have spent almost 2 hours creating a masterpiece of much worth.

Draenor's Destruction

Now there are a few things about this image. I spent a couple hours making this so I would like to salvage it in any way, shape, or form I can. Anything you want me to fix I will. For example. you don't want Kiljaeden in there? We discuss it, I tell you why I think we need it. you don't like that point? I take it out. Now I put a lot of lighting effects in there. The most notable is the supernova. Which I masterfully painted behind an outline of an orc that somehow got itself into my picture. It worked well though, and makes a nice artistic stripe. Now you may use this, I made it for you and me to use in Fall of Draenor, but please give credits. What you will use this for, is up to Alagremm, it's his master plan after all.

Now let me lead onto something else entirely. First of all, although we won't be seeing much of him, I think we should have a final movie scene that will, in essence show the coming of Kiljaeden to Draenor, and commanding his foul demons to burn it ashes and corrupt each and every one of its beautiful lands. Therein, Draenor would become a place of desolace and hellfire, a place of life that lives only because it is hardy enough to live in the fel essence of the demons. For in time, this very land, through the decades, would become outland, a planet broken and destroyed. Outland would later be besieged by alliance and horde forces, as well as other factions looking for new worlds to capture. But that is beyond the point. The ending should feature kiljaeden but should NOT be a happy ending, but rather an ending the reaps destruction and delivers foul doom upon the hand of it's unloving master. That doom is Kiljaeden...

I hope you like my picture in any case. Hope the posting gets faster, it's getting kind of slow at the moment. Hopefully the posting will speed up as will the ideas. Keep it up guys.

 

[takakenji]

i would move kiljaeden down so you don't see his legs cut off, also why is that fel orc so blurry?

you should also remove that orc outline and put something like "Fall of Draenor" in the middle, but keep the lines just make the outline different

otherwise i like the picture

also draenor wasn't destroyed by kil'jaeden, it was destroyed by ner'zhul.

 

[lightning brigade]

Dunno, I may have to consult Dab on how to reduce blur in GIMP, until then that's the best I could make, anyway, can you still see kiljaeden's legs are cut off? It's still WIP so lemme check it over... Oh no... I accidentally merged the one that was not supposed to be merged so now I have no way to unmerge it...That's great... I might have to do it over from scratch...ah well I'll get around to it. That sux...