Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[Zaljinzoo]

Well I know that we still aren't making heroes but I'm still ganna work on them, but I'll post them in my album and stop spamming this thread XD, P.S. i am working on models for every hero I design so check my album for updates =D

 

[Troynl]

Dab you still forgot the mountains south of Nagrand.
and there are no Islands
http://www.wowwiki.com/Fileraenor_map.jpg

 

[AIagremm]

Yap, there will still need to be islands... and Im still not sure about those mountains. I mean there's no evidence that they were there, and if they were where did such a landmass(that was tall enough there was snow on top)go to when the world shattered.

 

[Troynl]

there where mountains in the south. the Frost Wolf Clan lived there.
and BTW the Planet torn apart with magic.
the place where the portals were isn't destroyed.
and the mountains where possible on a earth plate.

 

[Zerox]

The Tales of Raviganion.http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-tales-of-raviganion
They have a completely different MPQ and some interesting new game play concepts aswell.

So yeah, it's been done before.

Interesting I'll have to take a look.

 

[Cthulus]

DaB, just saw the newest map.. I can't say it. Wait, yes I can! It looks great! Magnificent!
That's the kind of stuff we need more of! Great job!

 

[dab]

DaB, just saw the newest map.. I can't say it. Wait, yes I can! It looks great! Magnificent!
That's the kind of stuff we need more of! Great job!

Yeah, but as Alagremm mentioned, the isles still need to be added, and details will be added, such as a minor "icon" or statue for the dark portal, shattra and the other main locations ^^

 

[AIagremm]

Zerox, TToR is quite interesting, and very well-made, however I just hate their models, and they have no campaign. First I was thinking about making it only races, but then I changed my mind.
So we will first make the mod itself: races, AI, maybe UI and screen models and stuff.
Loading screens perhaps... And then in the second version we will make the campign.
Or we can even do something like this:
v0.1 - Beta
v1.0 - mod itself
v2.0 - with the orc clans campign
v3.0 - with the draenei campign, and so on...

However we should also make the demo to keep up the interest.

 

[arthas_king]

We must 1st make the starting screen.

 

[AIagremm]

Main menu screen model?

 

[arthas_king]

Yep, instead of the frozen throne, maybe add Hellfire Peninsula, and btw TToR cant play at my PC Do you know what i can do?

 

[izaiphovias]

An orc and a draenei fighting in a forest =D

 

[arthas_king]

Hey, you should avoid the ''Noncontributory'' posts like Rui said.....But i dont think its that cool, i think an Orc with a Clefthoof watching a village with a campfire and lights.

 

[AIagremm]

Orc and draenei fighting is too hard and not in place.
Main screens are always great buildings or landscape's.
i was thinkin of the temple of karabor or auchindoun and terrokar forest on both of them.

 

[arthas_king]

Meh, black temple dont fits, neither terrokar does, something at Hellfire Peninsula will be better, maybe a valley.

 

[Fussiler1]

... Shadowmoon Valley..?

 

[Troynl]

you can use Oshu'gun for menu
or Hellfire Citadel or Shattrath City

 

[arthas_king]

Im trying to tell a valley of Hellfire Peninsula, Karabor is too Draenei-ish and the mod is supposed to be Orc-Lore.

 

[Troynl]

dunno how you guys gonne make the menu screens but when you take them from wow don't use temple of karabor or auchindoun because those buildings changed a lot.
if you want Orc Lore base use Nagrand because Hellfire Peninsula became red long after the defeat of the Draenei

 

[Deolrin]

Tronyl, they have modelers in their team. I doubt they will take anything from World of Warcraft.

 

[AIagremm]

Oshu'gun? Now there's an idea!

And we have a lack of modellers.

 

[Troynl]

i say use something in Nagrand or old Shadowmoon Valley because those plases where importaint during the war in Old Hellfire didn't a lot happen only main fortress was there and Throne. not a lot draenei lived there.

 

[Cthulus]

Hey, we had quite a few ideas about such things.
By the way, had a new idea.. Instead of using Grunts, since the Orc Clans were more primordial and calm in those days, and not quite as militaristic, maybe a lighter, yet surlier, unit would suffice. I was thinking we could have the Huntsman, a tough Orc unit that replaces the Grunt as the basic trooper of the Orcs. Just an idea, but I think it works well. They wouldn't wear much, or any armor, and maybe just a loincloth of even cloth "pants", and possibly a torque or an ancestral totem or icon. Using a spear or bone club, these large Orcs are responsible for dealing with wild beasts and other problems. Understand me? Just an idea, by the way.

 

[izaiphovias]

The idea is good, but a bone club would be weird, too "stone age" for them, the spear is better.

 

[Cthulus]

By bone club, I mean a club, but unlike the overly-fantasy type used by Ogres, and other races in WCIII.

 

[Joss]

Sorry I've been inactive for a while. THW crashed meh internet for a little while :/

Anyway, I've decided to go back through this thread and re-discover my past ideas for Heroes that I've suggested. After doing so, I will then and them to an album on my profile specifically for such concept items. I'll also post new ones here and in the album, and other concepts I can think of, as this is still just the concept phase (dont take this last remark the wrong way, it seems to me like we're moving at a really good pace).

 

[Cthulus]

It's all good in the hood.. Alright, sounds good to me. If you want to me to draw a sketch for a hero, send me a PM with an extremely detailed description, and wait a long time.. I don't get much time nowadays. Just here if anyone needs me..

 

[arthas_king]

Hey guys, do you want me to Draw a Thunderlord WolfRider Concept? i have some nive paper.

 

[Cthulus]

I will kill you if you do.. but go ahead, punk. Try it..
I just channeled Clint Eastwood successfully! Booya! But suuure, why not? Go ahead.

 

[arthas_king]

Why if i attemp to draw something, im a punk?

 

[Cthulus]

It's a Clint Eastwood/spaghetti western joke, arthas_king. SILLY!
But whatever, go ahead.

 

[Troynl]

dunno if replacing grunt is realy needed because when the orcs attacked the Draenei they made a much Metal armor and Weapons.

and don't call it Thunderlord Riders but Sythegore Arm Riders because the Thunderlord didn't had more Riders then other clans befor the Second war.

 

[Cthulus]

Well, first off, they weren't a bunch of military-minded brutes at the time, so Grunts might not fit as well. They may have used armor once they underwent the rage though.

 

[Troynl]

during the war they became more and more military minded

 

[AIagremm]

No, I think we will leave the grunt be. They are the trademark of the Horde.

 

[arthas_king]

And the Raiders are the Trademark of the Thunderlord clan, the Warsong Outriders are like an improved and more brutal version of them.

 

[AIagremm]

I dispise Warsong.

 

[arthas_king]

What does Dispise means?

 

[AIagremm]

Its a lighter form of "hate" and another variant of dislike.

 

[arthas_king]

So you prefer the Thunderlord Raiders instead of the ones that Garrosh recruited at the Horde?

{EDIT}
But remember, we shouldn't go off-topic.I still want to be the melee map maker.If you want i will start another map like Chilly River, i hope a mod checks it out

 

[Cthulus]

Yeah, I know we're keeping Grunts, since they're as much a trademark as Peons, Blackrock, FOR THE HORDE and Work Complete! It was just a suggestion I made if you really wanted to make this mod really work at being realistic and more connected to 'Lore'. And Troynl, it was only after they conquered the Draenei and other of their fellow natives that they REALLY established an actual military system, instead of just huge swathes of Green bearing down onto the enemy with mindless charges and brutality, although those traits were incorporated into their racial strategy.

Arthas_King, if you make the melee maps, please make them a lot better then the stuff you uploaded, because those are, in my opinion.. kind of bad. We need something a lot better, so if you do so, get someone to help you.

 

[Avex]

If not said already (33 pages? nty)

Don't just do:

Terrokkar Forest
B.E. Mount's
Hellfire Penn.
Netherstorm
Zangarmarsh
Shadowmoon Valley.

Note that Outland is PART of Draenor, there were probobly many many other regions, be creative, if not stated make up your own names for them and be creative!

Good luck!

 

[AIagremm]

Of course not however creativity not always is going according to lore.

There will be such tilesets:

• Grassland(Hellfire Peninsula uncorrupted)
• Hellfire Peninsula(Corrupted)
• Terrokar Forest(+Shadowmoon Valley uncorrupted)
• Bone Wastes(Possibly, most likely will be a part of corrupted Shadowmoon valley or Terrokar tileset)
• Shadowmoon Valley(Corrupted)
• Nagrand(No changes here)
• Fields of Farahlon(Future netherstorm, looks a bit like Nagrand)
• Zangarmarsh(Also no changes here)
• Blade's Edge Mountains
• Apexis Fields(This one is actually made by me - its a theorized land west of BE Mts.)
• Underground(Draenei dungeon, f.e. Auchindoun)
• Underground(Natural caves, and with a little help from doodads they may become Oshu'gun)

 

[Cthulus]

Interesting.. Sounds pretty nice so far. I like the idea.

 

[arthas_king]

Nice idea, but name the one Underground(Auchiondun)

{EDIT}
I have an idea for the opening screen, oshu'gun, a sun and some grasses.

 

[AIagremm]

Yah, mittey, it's just like your captain been planning to do it.
But ya forgot thee Spirit Fields around, but tha shining sun and grasses will be too, lad!

Oh, and I wont name it Auchindoun because it will also be used for other dungeons)

 

[Cthulus]

Alagremm, why are you talking like an elderly Scotsman? xD
I personally think it should be more action-packed.. the opening screens.

 

[Deolrin]

Do you see any action on the WC3 already existing opening screens?

 

[arthas_king]

I mean the ''Single-Player'' ''Local Area network'' ''B.net'' nemu and etc. the starting menu i mean

 

[Cthulus]

Ah, well, I count RoC's screen as action. Major movement, SFX like explosions, so on. Maybe an Orc on the plains or something, tossing an axe around?