Warcraft III - Fall of Draenor

[Deolrin]

Cthulus, your idea(s) is(are) quite good, but it could be really, really hard for the modeler, unless we get someone who is a real expert in this. But what I think is that you guys should leave this for now, as you should concentrate on the melee maps and campaigns. Btw, I think you said somewhere along the lines something like "Battle.net support". How is it going to work, and do you guys really plan something like that? I mean, that's something that has to do with Blizzard, imo.

Also, I am really interested, where is this project going now, that you have found a programmer? Do you need any unit model-edits or anything? And what are you working on at the moment?

 

[Cthulus]

Well, It wasn't serious, debode.
But right now, We have two, possibly four models almost done or being worked on. BNET capabilities are also planned components of the final version of FoD. But yeah, we will eventually need more model-edits and so on. Currently, we're working on the Shaman unit. *No further Leaks*

 

[AIagremm]

Im talking like a pirate, laddie! Its Pirate Day!(Come on! You havent seen the Hive news?)

Actually, TToR has a battle.net support... I think. I mean that they can play their mod's melee in battle.net. Or maybe they use something like Garena?
So actually, I have no idea, but it would be a really important addition.

And right now we are in need of modellers, however they seem to have no need in us.
Mulgrim is prelly good, but we cant have only one modeller. Plus we need a skinner.

 

[Cthulus]

Im talking like a pirate, laddie! Its Pirate Day!(Come on! You havent seen the Hive news?)

Oh yeah, my friend Ian mentioned it on Facebook.. hehe.

Yeah, Debode! Join us, brother! Together we will forge.. the one ring to RULE them all. FoD..
The League of the FoD.. Company of the Holiest FoD.. FoD Champions?

 

[AIagremm]

Oh, not again. At least this time call it something like Church of Holy Ligh... Modeller!

 

[Deolrin]

I already mentioned or hinted numerous times that I am willing to make models and model-edits for this project

Check my models to see what kinda stuff I do.

 

[Cthulus]

Alrighty then, since I've previously looked over and rated quite a few of your models, I'd like to say thank you for being willing to help us with our humble endeavor.

EDIT: Nice subtle avatar edit, debode

 

[AIagremm]

Hurray! Thanks debode, now we are sure to succeseed!

 

[Troynl]

Arr the Bone Wastes became bones Wastes around the time of the First War.
and Oshu'gun doesnt look like a naturel cave but more like The Exodar.
(maby difficult to make but you need it for every Draenor town.

 

[Deolrin]

Yarr, I be thinkin' you need the dre... dra.. dre..a.. purple goat-things town set o' tiles.

 

[AIagremm]

Actually it looks like Exodar in WoW, due to the... WoW stuff.
Oshu'gun in original is all crystal inside. It was changed in WoW to make it look more "naaruish".

Bone Wastes... yes they did
Hm, I was almost sure that Auchindoun was blown up before the first war.
Glad we cleared that out.

And perhaps you dont know, but Exodar architecture and the draenei architecture are two totally differnt things.

Ok, I edited the list:

• Grassland(Hellfire Peninsula uncorrupted)
• Hellfire Peninsula(Corrupted)
• Terrokar Forest(+Shadowmoon Valley uncorrupted)
• Shadowmoon Valley(Corrupted)
• Nagrand(No changes here)
• Fields of Farahlon(Future netherstorm, looks a bit like Nagrand)
• Zangarmarsh(Also no changes here)
• Blade's Edge Mountains
• Apexis Fields(This one is actually made by me - its a theorized land west of BE Mts.)
• Catacombs(Draenei dungeon, f.e. Auchindoun)
• Caverns(Natural caves, and with a little help from doodads they may become Oshu'gun)
• Outland(Bonus tileset, that isnt used in the campign. Fully copied from TFT)

 

[Cthulus]

Walk the plank!
I be a pirate with correct gramm-arr!

Yeah, we will need a civilized Draenei town tileset. Sort of like Dalaran/Lordaeron City stuff, but more Draenei.

 

[AIagremm]

People! Draenei towns arent violet!
All draenei towns are made of a material that looks like yellow stone/clay.
Violet towns are Exodar and its parts. And Tempest Keep.

Examples:

 

[Cthulus]

Violet? Good thing I didn't say that one >

 

[Deolrin]

No one be talkin' 'bout the violet purple colors, we be talkin' 'bout the goat-thing city!

 

[AIagremm]

Here's the Black Temple before its corruption.

And I dont think that we need draenei town tileset, cuz we will mostly use doodads and not terrain to make the draenei walls, plus the draenei city road and other tiles will most likely be in Terrokar tileset. Because draenei cities aint that big in the campign, we wont need a full tileset for draenei city.

 

[Deolrin]

Shiver me timbers! I be findin' some fine, neat goat-thing models!

Bellow be the links!

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/zodiac-warrior-117768/?prev=search%3DDraenei%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/unbroken-sage-112799/?prev=search%3DDraenei%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/elekk-knight-121813/?prev=search%3DDraenei%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/draeneiarcher-update4-48464/?prev=search%3DDraenei%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/draenei-assassin-now-with-tc-48452/?prev=search%3DDraenei%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=92849&highlight=Draenei

http://www.wc3c.net/showthread.php?t=90568&highlight=Draenei

 

[Cthulus]

Alright, sounds fi-i-ine to me. Let's do that.
EDIT: Alagremm seems to hate the exquisite Zodiac Warrior and Unbroken Sage.. But we're using the Elekk and Elekk Knight.

 

[AIagremm]

I know all of them.
I hate Zodiac Warrior and Unbroken Sage.
Elekk knight will be in sure thing!
Assasin and archer are quite good, however not good enough i think.

I dislike draenei pack, especially since the buildings are exodar-based.
However the paaldin is quite good.

 

[Cthulus]

Agreed, friend. Although we could use one of the Draenei Pack buildings as a doodad, an altar perhaps?

 

[AIagremm]

You mean the barracks? Yeah they are pretty nice, and I've been thinking that we should make a similar building, with crystals on tops like on that one, but made with normal animations and in normal draenei yellow clay style.

 

[Troynl]

arr wasn't Oshu'gun the Naaru spaceship they used to come to draenor?

 

[AIagremm]

Yes it was. And not every dimensional ship has to have fancy tech and violet naaru walls.
I prefer the variant of Oshu'gun in which it is completely made out of crystal with caverns in which the draenei lived and small caves with the naaru who powered it. Its much more awesomer, draenish and fits everything much better.

Original Oshu'gun in the novel Rise of the Horde, in which it was introduced, is awesome, unlike the inside's of its WoW countepart.

 

[Joss]

I dont think we can use the paladin unit, cuz he has Alliance-based gear... >.>

 

[arthas_king]

Lol, just dont give him fancy plate mails

 

[Cthulus]

Well, the Draenei had fancy plate armor.
We need to ask permission from whoever made it and get rid of the Lordaeron Lion..

 

[AIagremm]

Paladins will be called Vindicators.
Also here is the concept art for our main screen. Its quite good looking.

 

[arthas_king]

And the options at the other side of the screen So the player will have a better look of the rock.

 

[rcshaggy]

Looks good, but will there be a Dreani on the loading screen?

 

[arthas_king]

None can spell Draenei right And i don't think so, it will only show Oshu'Gun

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. And I think we will just make the right side that isnt shown on this picture, or make a mirror image.

 

[malehkith]

hey guys , i just read in this forum and i like your ideas , it seems that it'll be great

 

[AIagremm]

Thanks
Im starting to think that we should add some sort of fan page or progress page on our site.

 

[arthas_king]

Progress corner, make it bright, make an article about ''Model Progress'' another like ''Fan Art'' another like ''Fan Chat'' at the same page Etc.This site has potential!

 

[rcshaggy]

I'm just curious as well...will the other races be involved with this as well?

 

[Cthulus]

Nope, unless we decided to fuck around or put them in as an easter egg.
Expect only the races currently listed as playable, unless we replace them much later on.

 

[malehkith]

yeah a fansite sounds kinda funny
you could show the people who like ur ideas how the map could look like, what models u will use etc , i think people who are interessted in ur idea of this campaigne will love it

 

[AIagremm]

Yeap, thats pretty good.

And there will be such races as mok'nathal as mercenaries and campaign units.
Gronn will be ogre campign heroes, broken will be some of the draenei units and campign race, lost ones will be creeps. Demons will be creeps, though there wont be many units, colossi will be creeps, and there will be different spore and fungal creatures.
You can expect fel orcs and black dragons as an Easter Egg, but dont count on it!

 

[Troynl]

Don't make Gronn Player main Hero in the campain. make it more like Tichondrius in undead campain. the Gronn's used the Ogres as slaves so i say make a Ogre the Main Hero.
and there where no black dragons and fel orcs in draenor befor the Second war.

 

[AIagremm]

Thats what I said, they can be an Easter Egg.
And I didnt say that Gronn is a main hero, he's just a campign hero. He's made to be killed in two missions.
Main hero will be an ogre.

 

[malehkith]

if u will ever finish this campaigne , I will give u and ur team a lot of respect
the only self-made campaignes that made me ever have respect to the author were "the last guardian" "lord of the clans" and "day of the dragon" from OutsiderXE , i hope ur campaigne will be fantastic like these three or even better

 

[arthas_king]

I agree, OutsiderXE should get a respected user award, for reading the books 4-5 times each just to remember what to add at the campaings lol.

 

[amaroxx]

yes outsiders campaigns really were supreme.. but you forgot the fairly unknown wc1 campaign coming fo the horde imho it was even better than outsiders ones.


but.. b2t, i did not read the whole thread, are there any important news? did you find someone who could do the modding or are you now going to release campaigns only (at first)?

 

[Cthulus]

Yes, and please stop going off topic for things like the Chaos campaign, and so on. By the way, yeah, we have a modder, but don't expect to be receiving any files from our Campaign or any campaigns at all. Once they're done, we'll probably do a closed-beta and much later on, we may do an open beta test. In other words, don't expect anything (that will be accessible for you!) for some time to be released. We're understaffed, and we're doing the best we can.

 

[AIagremm]

Right now we have a lack of skinners and modellers what really slows us down.
As Cthulus said, we will probably make a closed beta only to see if our races are balanced and working.
Then we will make the version with the campaign and a few minor upgrades.

 

[Deolrin]

If you guys have plans for the Orc race, please DO send me a PM with details about the units and how you want them.

 

[AIagremm]

I'll send them in a few hours.

 

[Deolrin]

Oh, sorry if I weren't clear. I meant that I'm willing to start making models for them

 

[AIagremm]

Hurray! ^^
Hm, let me think... no, no orc models in mind yet, except buildings.

 

[Cthulus]

Hey, I was just thinking.. We should do something based off the Forest Troll model..
It's muscular, green and looks awesome. All we need to do is mess with animations and maybe weapons, and the head. Voila, my Huntsman. Possibly an early Campaign NPC?