Warcraft II: Human Campaign

[LordPerenolde II]

mission 4 isn't working anymore

i haven't touched anything in years.

 

[EternaLife]

mission 4 isn't working anymore

Yes it crashes now. I bet it is because of the Warcraft III 1.29 patch.
I'm going to roll back and try mission 4 again see if it works!

 

[Mechanical Man]

it didn't work evenbefore the patch

 

[xzxdiablo]

heyo i have an issue on the level 5 (the fourth mission after the first navy one) and my game crashes any idea how to fix it really eager to play this campaign

 

[warmaster gorehowl]

i haven't touched anything in years.

human mission 4 is not loading... its a crash to desktop after blizzards latest patch... PLEASE i love your campaigns! im play the orc one now.... please please please fix human mission 4!!!

 

[LordPerenolde II]

human mission 4 is not loading... its a crash to desktop after blizzards latest patch... PLEASE i love your campaigns! im play the orc one now.... please please please fix human mission 4!!!

lol sorry, i thought this project was mine xDD
This campaign was created by Helldoom. Unfortunately the guy hasn't been active for a long time, and all the scripts are in JASS. I have no competence in jass, and i don't have any interests in this project here. Sorry.

 

[warmaster gorehowl]

is there anyway to just skip that mission? I can't unlock the other ones... like with a cheat or something? Id really like to play the other human missions....

 

[LordPerenolde II]

I'm afraid it's not possible. The guy protected the campaign file so it can't be accessed. In this way you can't even unlock the map buttons from inside. This plus Helldoom being no longer active makes the campaign basically wasted.

 

[warmaster gorehowl]

thats a real shame..... i understand people wanting to protect their work... but man this is terrible... the entire war2 human campaign is not accessible because of a bug on mission 4... im having such fun with the orc one

 

[LordPerenolde II]

That's

thats a real shame..... i understand people wanting to protect their work... but man this is terrible... the entire war2 human campaign is not accessible because of a bug on mission 4... im having such fun with the orc one

That's why I didn't protect my wc1 campaigns. I remember when i wanted to put my hands on them again to create hard mode and the new stuff i couldn't find them on my pc and i had to download them from thw to work on them again!

 

[Rkaolt]

Hey I encountered a Problem with the Campaign and it dosn't seem like anybody else has. For some reason the Game crashes everytime I try to start the 4 Mission. Is there any reason for this or any way I can fix it?

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Hey I encountered a Problem with the Campaign and it dosn't seem like anybody else has. For some reason the Game crashes everytime I try to start the 4 Mission. Is there any reason for this or any way I can fix it?

If you take a look at the previous page you'll see there's been a discussion about this.

 

[Rkaolt]

Ups sorry my bad didn't see that -.-

 

[DarkWolf]

¡Good Work dude!

 

[Thor1984]

Nice work.
Only Problem i have.
Act 1 Mission 4 everytime when i tried to start the Mission, the complete Game crushes

 

[cleavinghammer]

Barracks cost 60 wood.
Farms have no sight range and are unselectable in fog of war.

Maybe have the original mission voiceovers play during the loading screen.

Intro:
The human music is still playing in the background.
The orcs in the ship have visible shadows on the water (maybe have the ships in that shot play their moving animations).

 

[cleavinghammer]

Lothar has negative armor in the first few levels.
Lothar started with zero experience on the second mission despite having killed the grunts in the first mission. He kept his level and spells on the third one though.
Lothar's passive should use a different icon.
2000 GOLD TO REVIVE?!?!?!

Proudmoore has negative armor.
Why give both heroes the same basic spells?
Proudmoore should be amphibious if his aura affects ships, or some mechanic (load him on a boat?) that lets him keep up with ships to make his aura useful.

 

[Blazethesage]

Honestly, 2000 gold doesn't feel too crazy to revive a hero, keeping in mind a single peasant load of gold is somewhere between 100-120. A footman in WC2 is 600 gold.

 

[Helldoom]

Didn't want to make reviving too expensive, but I guess 2000g is too low then. Though I made the revive time long, relatively, and tried to adjust that heroes are not too overpowered..at least in the beginning.
You don't get exp. on the first mission, as you don't even have to kill anyone there (I "had" to stretch out leveling through the missions, so you may not level up on certain missions).
I know heroes start with negative armor, which is due to the low stats I give them to be somewhat on par with other units. I may just change the starting armor to be not negative for heroes.
Proudmoore's passive should affect the whole map, so regardless where he is the ships should be buffed.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Oh, didn't see it affected the whole map. Still, it should work when he's in a transport, if only for thematic reasons.

Given the slower rates of getting gold in WII, I still find 2000 gold to be kind of high.

 

[Anaxie]

Oh, didn't see it affected the whole map. Still, it should work when he's in a transport, if only for thematic reasons.

Given the slower rates of getting gold in WII, I still find 2000 gold to be kind of high.

Heres a good solution.

Dont let your heros die

 

[cleavinghammer]

^ huhu

Trying to repair a ship gets a "Unable to target Ancients" message.
Right-clicking an oil drop gets an "Error message missing" message.
Proudmoore can get his ultimate at level 3? Also, the spell should use cannonballs instead of fire.

Got two game crashes on the Tol Barad mission. During the same mission, there's a neutral/allied zeppelin flying around.

 

[Suedomsael]

Error in the Loading Screen of ACT 1 - Mission 2, bro...

 

[deepstrasz]

Error in the Loading Screen of ACT 1 - Mission 2, bro...

What patch are you playing it on? It was made with 1.21, at least.

 

[Suedomsael]

What patch are you playing it on? It was made with 1.21, at least.

Im playing at 1.27 patch... it works fine... all im saying is that on the mission 2.... the loading screen does not show the warcraft 2 ToD old map of Lordaeron as well as the description of the mission in Tarren Mill.
It loads like an ordinary loading screen of a custom map gameplay

only on mission 2 though... the rest of the other campaign missions are fine

 

[deepstrasz]

Im playing at 1.27 patch... it works fine... all im saying is that on the mission 2.... the loading screen does not show the warcraft 2 ToD old map of Lordaeron as well as the description of the mission in Tarren Mill.
It loads like an ordinary loading screen of a custom map gameplay

only on mission 2 though... the rest of the other campaign missions are fine

Oh, I thought it didn't work at all, that level. This was saved on 1.21 and newer patches might not be quite compatible but from what I know 1.27 worked well with 1.21 maps.

 

[Roxas13]

On both Orc & Human campaigns, when trying to repair ships I get a "Unable to target Ships" message.

 

[Suedomsael]

On both Orc & Human campaigns, when trying to repair ships I get a "Unable to target Ships" message.

That is because in the original Warcraft 2 gameplay, Ships are NOT repairable...

 

[Blazethesage]

Transport ships are, but they're the only kind of ship that is.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Still, the "Ancients" classification should be renamed to "Ships".

 

[Roxas13]

That is because in the original Warcraft 2 gameplay, Ships are NOT repairable...

Transport ships are, but they're the only kind of ship that is.

Thank you for responding. I just tested repairing ships in the original Warcraft 2 and it is like you said.

 

[Jack Monty]

Hi,

I just found this campaign and started playing the other day - brings back so many fond memories - very good so far - I love the fact heroes are included! I spotted a few things while playing that I thought I should make you aware of in case you decide to do any more work on this campaign:

* Human Mission 2 is missing the startup splash screen where the mission briefing is meant to be displayed.
* Human Mission 3 has incomplete text at the startup mission briefing screen (the text just gets cut off - this may be a space limitation...).

One other oddity I found was when I completed building an oil rig - this odd howling sound started playing on loop - completing the mission fixed it - I haven't encountered it since but if i do I will do some more tests like loading and saving the game with it.

Thanks for making the campaign - as I play through it if I spot anything else I will let you know.

 

[Jack Monty]

I downloaded the update and the intro loading screen for map 2 is fixed. It seems the loading screens for Map 3 and Map 5 still don't have enough space to fit the entire briefing text....

Just an idea and this may not even be possible, but it it works it could solve the briefing text being cut off. In the initial loading screens once the load is complete, but before pressing any key to advance to the mission a music track starts playing - is this track editable, in the sense that can you choose what plays here before any keys are pressed to start the mission? If you can control what plays you could have the original Warcraft 2 voiced mission briefing play out - again apologises if this is not possible I'm not very familiar with the map editor so it may not even be something that can be done.

One more thing I noticed is there is a delay in game when a music track finishes and the other starts - is there just extra silence at the start and end of these music tracks?

Again great campaign am on mission 6.....

 

[Helldoom]

I downloaded the update and the intro loading screen for map 2 is fixed. It seems the loading screens for Map 3 and Map 5 still don't have enough space to fit the entire briefing text....

Just an idea and this may not even be possible, but it it works it could solve the briefing text being cut off. In the initial loading screens once the load is complete, but before pressing any key to advance to the mission a music track starts playing - is this track editable, in the sense that can you choose what plays here before any keys are pressed to start the mission? If you can control what plays you could have the original Warcraft 2 voiced mission briefing play out - again apologises if this is not possible I'm not very familiar with the map editor so it may not even be something that can be done.

One more thing I noticed is there is a delay in game when a music track finishes and the other starts - is there just extra silence at the start and end of these music tracks?

Again great campaign am on mission 6.....

Hmm, I'm not experiencing the briefing text cut-offs. Not sure if it's a version problem or why you have them.

For the briefing, I never really thought of it, but it is a neat idea. It may be possible I need to check.

 

[deepstrasz]

Hmm, I'm not experiencing the briefing text cut-offs. Not sure if it's a version problem or why you have them.

There was a problem with floating texts in 1.29. I remember them fixing it on the newer ones (1.30+).
If that's what you are talking about, of course

 

[cleavinghammer]

Only having a small part of the screen to display the mission text instead of the full screen's width?

 

[Jack Monty]

Hello All,

I'm using version 1.30.4.11274 - its pretty much like cleavinghammer describes in that all the text is in the bottom right-hand side of the screen (the full screen length is not used). I'm playing at 1920 x 1080. I added a screenshot under my media - wasn't sure how else to get it displayed... Let em know if you can't see it or want more screenshots in some other way.

 

[deepstrasz]

@Jack Monty

there's a limit of how many words can be seen on the loading screen.
This is your screenshot:

Spoiler

 

[cleavinghammer]

Maybe copy the full text directly on the background image?

 

[deepstrasz]

Maybe copy the full text directly on the background image?

Or write it right at the beginning of the map.

 

[Helldoom]

Hello All,

I'm using version 1.30.4.11274 - its pretty much like cleavinghammer describes in that all the text is in the bottom right-hand side of the screen (the full screen length is not used). I'm playing at 1920 x 1080. I added a screenshot under my media - wasn't sure how else to get it displayed... Let em know if you can't see it or want more screenshots in some other way.

I re-checked with again with both old (v1.26) and new (v1.30). I didn't notice untill now, because I use older version for testing and it supports wide screen, which has more space to write out the briefing. The new version does not however, and displays as you posted, so that may need to be fixed.

 

[Jack Monty]

I found one minor thing while playing through yesterday, the tool tip for the human oil mining ships for the build icon is missing a description (when you hover over it just a blank box appears).

 

[cleavinghammer]

The bug where oil platforms keep looping the Altar of Elders sound is still present. Sometimes it stops doing it and then starts again.

Oil tankers should use orc construction.

Still getting a game crash on the fourth level.

 

[Luffy]

you should've made the units die when a transport is sunk. The game crashes and gives a fatal error when you sink a transport in the middle of the sea and the units have nowhere to land.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Sorry, fifth level (Tol Barad, the one that starts with rescuing Danath) has a crash, not the fourth.

Getting +5 gold from the Keep, shouldn't it be +10?

Danath doesn't have a greyed-out icon when he's dead.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Paladin healing prevents them from continuing a previous action (move, attack move, patrolling, or following units).

Peasants should use that thwacking sound when attacking.

Eye of Killrogg counts as a unit that needs to be killed to complete a level.

Tyr's Hand: repeatedly had a problem where single enemy units would wander around the map.

Alterac: Enemy attack waves accumulate in the base.

Kurdran's icon isn't greyed out when he's dead and he can be targeted by ground units (which might explain why his selection circle is on the ground and his flying height varies).

 

[cleavinghammer]

Got a crash on Crestfall caused by, as far as I can tell, unloading a transport. As the level also has some weird coastal pathfinding, that might be the issue.
Crestfall has AI issues. On one attempt they kept sending attacks, on another they didn't send anything at all (accumulating in their base) until I started attacking, at which point they started sending ships and units at me.

Zeppelins aren't mechanical.
Flying Machines can be attacked by submerged units.

Blackrock Spire loading screen: eading -> Leading [and Northeron -> Northern] Huh, apparently it really is Northeron. G R R Martin has a competitor in unimaginative place names.
Got a crash (well, freeze) on Blackrock Spire. I suspect this was due to the simultaneous use of twelve Gryphon Rider attacks though. And another one for no visible reason.

Saw an Ogre-Mage plant mines in response to an attack and the rest of the army get blown up by them (an attack by gryphons, so they couldn't have done anything anyway). Still not as funny as the Ogre-Mage who planted mines on his own position before attempting to scurry away.

No Kurdran or Proudmoore on the final mission?

Muradin's Avatar's tooltip says Kurdran.

 

[Helldoom]

Thanks for all the feedback. Unfortunately I've been away for awhile now, and will be for a some time. Hopefully when I get back I can get myself some time to look at the issues.

I didn't notice crashing with transports with units, weird. I'll have to check it out when I get back.

On note of the AI, I think I know some of the issues, though I might need to remake the AI scripts for that. The AI transportation can get stuck as well unfortunately, as it is hard to make them travel across the see to attack.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I think I sank a full transport once without crashing.

Few more:
Demolish doesn't affect the Dark Portal.
Giving Turalyon Lothar's ultimate means he's down one skill point at level 10, maybe give him the spell in addition to Holy Light (or Crushing Wave instead, which is a lot better).
Khadgar has no death icon.
The howling platform bug is back, this time triggered because the tankers tried to get to a shipyard they couldn't reach and wouldn't drop their oil., the howling starts whenever a full tanker goes into the platform.

 

[AbsolutePsycho]

The game crashes sometimes when I select a unit group that... is near north border?
Or too far from the current camera position?
Can't recreate the bug to confirm, so I'm not sure. But it happened twice for me.

Upd:
Maybe it's not about selection.
Found the way to recreate this (or some similar) bug.
1. Start "Mission 7 - Grim Batol".
2. Immediately select Transport ship.
3. Move it to the north border.
4. The game crashes.

Also I think the same thing happened to me with flying machine.