This is so touching... and so true

[samusaran253]

I was on another forum (Bungie.net) and someone made a thread about this amazing video, and so I thought I'd share it here. The video is of a really hot chick who is trying to overcome self-harm and is getting harassed, and she's trying to tell people to think before they speak or act, since they may not realize it, but they are hurting other people.

inb4 some troll says that her problems aren't real because there are starving people in Ethiopia who have it worse

Also, at 2:40 there is a cat in the background that jumps across the screen.

 

[Ganondorf]

Well, I'm pretty much her age, and I don't know the feeling, but surely she must have done something to make anyone respond like that to her. There are much more things than just... well, that. There are problems in life we all got to go through, including every single one of the people.
She cut her wrists because of that? That's surely too much, there must be more to the story than she told. It's quite nice to see such a creative way to say "Think before you say"... She is, kind of cute, to say at least, I dunno why would anyone call her "ugly" or a "whore".

Honestly though, I don't know what's so amusing in frustrating and poking aggressively other people with your opinion on a topic; You ask someone to stop doing something because it's getting on your nerves, they'll continue doing it for the rest of the day. It's such a time that we, as kids, can't just solve any problems with words. I'm a kid myself, and never did I, in my whole life, found any interest and amusement in harassing or poking someone else. I'd rather help out someone. And another thing is fighting... Why? Why use violence? Really, I know it first hand, There is no way to solve a conflict. Really, not words, not violence, nothing can solve a conflict.

 

[Grey Nightmare]

I disagree the pen is mightier than the sword, unless your duelling but w/e..
Sad video, but also agree there is probably more to it - although it is indeed probably for the better that we don't know :|

 

[Ganondorf]

I disagree the pen is mightier than the sword, unless your duelling but w/e..
Sad video, but also agree there is probably more to it - although it is indeed probably for the better that we don't know :|

I said it's just an ideal that KIDS do not follow.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Cutting yourself doesn't make other people hate you any less
In summation, people suck - especially those in the public education system - they don't care if they're hurting you or other people, some probably enjoy the fact that they are - especially among young girls: guys may occasionally pummel one another but from what I've seen girls are without a doubt much harsher to each other in school in attitude and action - their fights tend to be bloodier (pulling earrings, clawing with nails, etc), they tend to be more exclusive when it comes to creating social pariahs, etc. etc.

The only way to deal with this sort of thing is to cope with the fact that people are going to hate you, often for no real or exact reason - if they don't like you anyway, why should their opinion matter to you? They don't have the decency to see you as another human and through that, act as animals in the process.

 

[Devine]

Even though she made a fucking retarded mistake in her writing, I'd do her.
Also, I've never cut myself, even though I had it rough. Probably a lot worse than that girl.
I don't know why. I had everything it takes to be popular. Looks, brains etc... But somehow, I wasn't popular. At all. I shut myself off completely and found comfort in drawing. Now I'm actually getting pretty good
I went to another school after awhile. It wasn't elite or anything like it. It was completely different. I have a lot of friends now, I have a lot of confidence... Really. I'll never forget what I've been through, though, in the years I spent on my last school. It probably scarred me for life.

 

[Super-Sheep]

What is this thread about?

So sayings hurts k... If someone shoots you into the face yeah it will hurt no matter what but if someone says something bad for you you can just ignore it and live on but apparentely there are some people who dont get it and after few years they become emos.

omg someone called me gay I must cut myself herp derp ...

 

[D a w n]

Had similar problems at school, but they were at least 50% my fault, because I did not had the guts to speak up against my haders. This was also the time when I registered here, because at THW I could be who I am without any prejudices. Plus I isolated myself even though other people did not had anything against me, but I realized it too late. Meh...good thing is that I had/have friends and did not care that much if the mayority likes me or not. I saw/see my current job as a new beginning, acting more open towards others and it worked well.

No matter how sad her story is, a coin always has 2 sides.

 

[Ganondorf]

I don't know. Only explanation I can get from her trying to cut her Veins is... That she was really close to those people. I mean, if a stranger said to me "You suck as a person, go fuck yourself. I don't want to see you ever again in my life." he wouldn't make an impact as my bro (For example) saying the same.
It must be something that someone close said to her to make her cut her veins.

 

[Geazergimli2]

I honestly can't see how some1 can call her ugly? or fat? maybe she planned this video for the sake of others??? but wow i was never treated like this and i'm a senior, sure my school is bad but it seems that everyone knows each other lame or not... and thats a good thing when we know each other and were nice to each other.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

I honestly can't see how some1 can call her ugly? or fat?

High school/middle school kids make up excuses to hate each other

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

Ok she's cute. So what? Cutting yourself over being bullied? Wtf is wrong with kids today? We never did that and girls never did that. She needs a psychologist.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Ok she's cute. So what? Cutting yourself over being bullied? Wtf is wrong with kids today? We never did that and girls never did that. She needs a psychologist.

Who's we?

I can say from personal experience (so I won't say this applies to everyone in the same situation) that social problems can really control your life (especially at an age where belonging to the group feels like the only right way to go) and once they do it will seem like there's no way out, instead of setting goals for the future making sure the problem is evaded can become he only goal (and the time that got me I used to mod warcraft :B). In the past I did get a few psychologists, but I didn't trust mine well enough to do anything with their suggestions.

 

[Linaze]

She is a consequence of the sickness that is our modern, liberal society.
Hollywood, the fashion industry, the porn industry and many other sick industries are responsible for so much suffering and most of us are too busy watching the latest episode of Sex and the City, getting drunk or playing WoW to do anything about it.

 

[fladdermasken]

the porn industry

94% of all pornstars are sled dogs though

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

You're seriously equating this to porn......?

 

[Ganondorf]

Hollywood and Politicians... they are responsible for this bullshit happening all over the world more intensively then earlier.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

You're seriously equating this to porn......?

Even tough it does sound wierd, I have to agree with Linaze on that,

Pornography is affecting this individualism society that we live in, ''Sex'' is almost everywhere: in music, in movies, in video-clip, in books, in clothing..

Pornography is an insult to human valors and knowledge.. because ''doing sex'' is purely primale and discusting and we human... LOVE IT, we forget the beauty of ''making love'' which is soooooooooo much more than what porn can offer.

Even tough it's ''Just pornagraphy'' it affects everyone's psycologically, people tend to be more harsh with the opposite sex, the gallentry is slowly disapearing, there's hardly any more romance these days, and couples hardly survives these days because we aim for the physic and the sex-appeal, more than the psycologie and valours.

don't get me wrong, I do watch porn sometimes (I know, I just said it, get over it... who doesn't for christ sake)

anyway, if you don't understand my point, read ''Lipovesky'' he knows better how to explain it, I guess

 

[Ganondorf]

^ Basically, self explanatory how Porn affects other industries...

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Even tough it's ''Just pornagraphy'' it affects everyone's psycologically, people tend to be more harsh with the opposite sex, the gallentry is slowly disapearing, there's hardly any more romance these days, and couples hardly survives these days because we aim for the physic and the sex-appeal, more than the psycologie and valours.

Did romance ever truly exist as people like to tell us it does?
The problem here becomes which is the marketing ploy, the image of romance that hollywood likes to sell to us, or the image of non-romance that the porn industry likes to sell to us - who knows, maybe they're both fake - they just attack at different parts of the psyche, romance for those who crave the attention of others and sensuality for those who crave little more then the physical.


But then again, that still holds little to the situation of children, particularly young ones, in school - especially if they're before the age that pornography can get to them.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

Did romance ever truly exist as people like to tell us it does?
The problem here becomes which is the marketing ploy, the image of romance that hollywood likes to sell to us, or the image of non-romance that the porn industry likes to sell to us - who knows, maybe they're both fake - they just attack at different parts of the psyche, romance for those who crave the attention of others and sensuality for those who crave little more then the physical.

Of course romance exist, it is highly sold by Hollywood, I agree, but it doesn't change the fact that romance always and will always exist, even animal do romance, it's just part of the ''mating process'' try to seduce the opposite sex to prouve you are a better mate than the other animal in the battle, that's why such animals like birds, do a dance together, why mammels hugs each other, etc.

But then again, that still holds little to the situation of children, particularly young ones, in school - especially if they're before the age that pornography can get to them.

you think?, who raise those kids? just think about it...

Mostly, it's not the kids fault, but pretty much 90% of how the kids are today; is because of their parents and the society. It's around the age of 10 that children slowly become smart enough to understand by themselves and know what is good and right compared to, whats bad and wrong.... and before that, they relay 100% on their parents, friends, rules.. or basically what the society in general tells them.

 

[Callahan]

Supply and demand that's how it works.

Porn is a consequence not a cause.Porn industry is merely solving your demand.
There's no ad or commercial for porn.You have to seek it by your own initiative.
Don't blame porn industry for making the world harsh this is so random and irelevant.

Love is not superior of inferior to sex they're different thing.People choose what fit them.You can't consider someone inferior because he's having volatile sexual relationship.You can't force everyone to find their true love forever happy etc...

Hollywood is spreading cult of love, good vs bad, cult of happiness, carebears eveywhere.They are not responsible of world harshness but more making individual too expecting from life and less armed psychologicaly to face the world.
People are easier sad because they are weaker not because the world is harsher.

This video is just a teen girl cuting herself and being sad internaly.There's nothing alarming it's the normal maning up process.There's even a comment saying that she's now all good.See?there was nothing alarming just kind of touching but no need to get all hot about it.

 

[Fussiler1]

guy with no posts who just registered posts a video and praises it.

advertising???

Tho, sad.

 

[rcshaggy]

Really bummed out that the girl cut herself, but still she looks kinda pretty for her age in high school.
I for one hated high school and I'm glad I got rid of it when I had the chance and went to College and all this never happened there, which I liked and I got through it.
Now I just look back at those days and I fucking hate the bullying and the kids who treated me like shit, but I don't really care anymore, and I moved on to greater things.

Well anyway I feel sorry for her, and I hope the problem will be solved soon.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Mostly, it's not the kids fault, but pretty much 90% of how the kids are today; is because of their parents and the society.

But is how kids are today worse than how they were? When it comes to bullying I'd say it's a problem of all ages even though the excuses used for bullying could change over time. Ok, I suppose that with the increase in social media kids have access to new bullying methods that are much more effective and longer lasting, but I don't see anyone banning all social media with the internet playing such an important role in education nowadays.

 

[Mr.Goblin]

But is how kids are today worse than how they were? When it comes to bullying I'd say it's a problem of all ages even though the excuses used for bullying could change over time. Ok, I suppose that with the increase in social media kids have access to new bullying methods that are much more effective and longer lasting, but I don't see anyone banning all social media with the internet playing such an important role in education nowadays.

well bullying comes from 2 facts, 1 because people are affraid of you (not because you look bad, maybe because you are too over confident or because you are smarter,etc.) 2 because the bullies thinks they can do what ever they want to do because their parents told them they could... or didn't acted when they couldn't.

and guess what? those two cause comes from the kid's education, their parents didn't teached them how every single human is unique and diffrent from each other, and that's why everyone is special and is worth living...

I can say I,ve been raised well and I've also suffered bullying. And I can easily tell what was the diffrents between me and them... poor kids honestly.

 

[fladdermasken]

There's no ad or commercial for porn.You have to seek it by your own initiative.

Or, you know, slightly misspell google.

 

[GhostThruster]

Well, even if the bullying forced her to cut herself, did she have to post a vid?

PS: Bungie.net ftw!

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

and guess what? those two cause comes from the kid's education, their parents didn't teached them how every single human is unique and diffrent from each other, and that's why everyone is special and is worth living...

Most parents leave education like that up to television now, as lazy as that is that is one point television rams into their heads.

Or, you know, slightly misspell google.

Heck, some searches on google itself bypass safesearch for some reason

Really bummed out that the girl cut herself, but still she looks kinda pretty for her age in high school.

:|

Seriously..... I'd like to think that people are better then that, but by the fact that people keep bringing up her appearance I'm wondering if this thread would have gone somewhere if that was a girl that wasn't considered physically attractive, or a guy or something (Gingers do have souls! When a guy posts this sort of video, it's hilarious - when a girl does it's "tragic"......)

 

[Linaze]

We should've thought twice before abandoning christian morale, and that's coming from an atheist.

Too many of the children of today (many of us included) are/were raised by divorced parents and crap culture consisting of violent movies and games, pornography, a super-sexualised society etc.

I have had the fortune of growing up in a stable family that is rather old-fashioned, I guess. Everything we've done we've done as a family rather that a number of individuals living in the same house. My parents have taught me how to behave towards people and towards the society. To treat women with respect, to think for myself and not let MTV do the thinking etc.

I suppose this is why adults call me polite and partially why I'm so against the society of today and more in favor of the society of yesterday (and hopefully tomorrow).

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that I think that the western world currently sucks. This girl is just an example amongst millions of mislead young Europeans and Americans.

We need to replace the liberal crap society we're currently living in with a conservative and national one.

 

[Fussiler1]

Too many of the children of today (many of us included) are/were raised by divorced parents and crap culture consisting of violent movies and games, pornography, a super-sexualised society etc.

y? just 'cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's crap.

My parents have taught me how to behave towards people and towards the society. To treat women with respect, to think for myself and not let MTV do the thinking etc.

uhm.. women are treated with respect and MTV doesn't think for the majority of youngsters, really. you know, we've come a long way from the 50ies in regards to women rights.

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that I think that the western world currently sucks.

I think nostalgia sucks.

We need to replace the liberal crap society we're currently living in with a conservative and national one.

why?

 

[Urwaldbewohner]

uhm.. women are treated with respect? MTV does not think for you? you know, we've come a long way from the 50ies in regards to women rights.

You think women shouldn't get any respekt? You let MTV think for you?
Asking such questions is allways easy, but you just do this cause you got no arguments by yourself.
And wtf women rights got anything to do whith respect??? I think you should treat everybody whith respect,men and women, friends and enemys, asians and americans, just everyone. And this respect is the main aspect society is missing today. You allways have to understand someone before you can judge him, else you might start bullying or start an war cause of oil.

To stay on topic about this girl, I never understood people cutting thereselfs. I had classmate who tryid to kill herself several times(cutting, medicine etc) before she came into our class. Part by part she found friends, felt better and stopped. I see this as only change if you are in an very deep crysis, this girl isn't(the cuts are nothing).

 

[Fussiler1]

You think women shouldn't get any respekt? You let MTV think for you?

... that's not what I said. At all. Though I admit I might have phrased my point badly.

 

[Devine]

And wtf women rights got anything to do whith respect???

What a stupid thing to say.
Respect ~ Rights.
But how are they related?
Maybe, if you don't respect someone, and you can give them rights, you just don't give them rights because you don't respect them.
But what if you do respect them? -> You do give them rights.
So the only reason women didn't have rights is that men didn't respect them for shit.
Now that women have earned our respect big time, they got a lot more rights, like being able to do politics and whatever. Back in the 50s, women weren't allowed to vote. Now, they are.
SEE HOW WOMEN RIGHTS AND RESPECT FOR WOMEN ARE RELATED?

Also, you're all wrong. People just suck. And people have always been bullied. It's all a matter of charisma. If you don't have it, you're going to be more vulnerable.
Charisma isn't very hard to have. You just have to regain your confidence.
Nothing that your bullies say to you is true, or maybe not even based of you.
They probably prank you with their own fears.
Just be nice and think "Does saying that make you feel any better? I bet it does, I bet it makes you feel great. Do you really think that you're any better than me? Because you're not. You're just another ugly douchebag that happens to have a lot of friends. You only pick on me because you're insecure about yourself and that is fucking sad. Also, if you say something back, don't be trollbait or butthurt, always say stuff with a big grin on your face. Like "Hah, that's really not funny." Or "Stop fucking mumbling, I can't understand you for shit... what?" or "no" or just give them a thumbs up.

What I'm trying to say is that nobody will ever be worth more than you. Just smile and fuck them over when possible. Like stealing their backpacks and throwing them in the trashcan, behind their backs ofcourse. Don't be afraid, they can't do shit to you, trust me. And work out a little, if you're a small cunt, nobody will take you seriously. Shower at least once every 2 days and check some fashionsites or blogs or whatever because if you walk around looking like you're dressed by your mom, girls will start picking on you and then, my dear friend, you're fucked.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

There's been some successful trolling in here I see

@Linaze

Sure, because intolerance to other individuals based upon factors like religion, gender and ethnicity and homogeneous culture discouraging individualism is totally the way to make young children treat each other with respect.

 

[Linaze]

@Fussiler1, can you get back to me when you aren't as drunk/stoned so I don't need to decrypt your message?
The only part I really understand is the final one, the question "why?", so let me answer it.
The society of today is, amongst other things, one of individualism and liberalism.
While these two may sound great and all in theory, let's take a look at what they have led to in reality. A massive increase of criminality, a more selfish society, youth that's forgotten the basic premise of life, broken marriages, more abortions than ever, anorexia, fatness, a sexualisation of the society and a dozen other things.

The society of yesterday, one that I want to see reborn with modern technology, was about morale, honor, proudness, duty and more. People knew their place in society, they were proud of who they were, their heritage and their culture. Women didn't work like the men did, but they were still respected for raising children, cooking food and keeping the house clean. Women weren't nearly as often raped as they are today, and they could go out late without being too scared. Women didn't have to get plastic surgery to look better, or were clothes that revealed half their bodies etc.
In this society, bullies were punished and the bullied didn't cut themselves and upload a clip of it to youtube in the name of attention. People didn't blog about sex, alcohol and dieting. Every man didn't get drunk only to find a female for the night which lead to an abortion a week later. The youth didn't grow up under unstable family conditions (such as divorced parents), because families much more often stuck together for their entire lives.

That's a very summarized version of why I consider myself conservative, I suppose. Why I'm also a nationalist is another matter, and a story for another day.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

That's not conservative, that's reactionary

 

[anarchianbedlam]

i support women's rights.... that is to say
women have the right to make me a goddamn sandwich and get back in the kitchen

 

[Dratz]

From emo chicks begging for attention to porn stars and then to woman rights and religion.

Pardon, but why on the Hive?

 

[Cweener]

So...what's wrong with you cutting your wrists and being female?
When your sad, it tends to help.

I'm probably reaaaaaallllllly off-topic here, butttttt
TL;DR.

 

[Linaze]

That's not conservative, that's reactionary

Doesn't reactionary people want to "go back in time"?
I for one merely wish for the return of Christian morale really, I don't want us to cast away technology or anything silly like that. I have a problem with all the damned sex everywhere, turning innocent women into the worst of succubi. I have a problem with the lack of manners, of selfishness and similar things. I think traditions and culture are important. But none of this makes me want to "go back in time".

 

[Tyranid]

From emo chicks begging for attention to porn stars and then to woman rights and religion.

Pardon, but why on the Hive?

Because this is a serious forum for serious discussion.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Because this is a serious forum for serious discussion.

And this thread is seriously going nowhere

Let's track it's development:
-Bullying
to
-Porn
to
-Woman's Rights

Yup that's a pretty offtopic progression
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