The new Horde

[Phoonix]

discuss things about the New horde. troll's Ogre's Mok'nathal Orc's all are welcome! Discuss about The lands of Durotar and all those things!

 

[VeljkoM]

Only Jungle Trolls not all...
New Horde is just a shadow of the Old one.But old didn't have Taurens.

 

[Misha]

yep ^(*O*)^

^ EDIT: duh... it supposed to be like a tauren >.>;;

 

[VeljkoM]

What are you saying?

 

[Calas]

The reason the horde does not go on a rampage and destroy the allience is one reason, Thrall in his childhood at the human interment camps the leader of his side had a plan he adopted the young orc and tought him how to be more... human this led to the orc haveing the brains of a human yet the strenth of an orc the crazed leader of the interment camp thought he could use thrall to lead the orcs in his name but thrall was liberated by Ogrim Doomhammer who took him up and treated him like a son giveing him his hammer and armor as a gift when he died.

 

[DarkIron Dwarf]

Still think we should kill the Alliance .... I heard gnomes taste like bacon.

 

[Calas]

Indeed thrall sucks eggs the alliance hugging asshole

 

[arthas_king]

Thrall is kind the alliance is just anooying and wants to kill everyone!

 

[Tarfen]

There is ONE tribe of Forest Trolls with Thrall...it was Zul'Jin's old tribe but then he left after it joined the new horde because he didnt like how Thrall allied with the blood elves...

 

[Phoonix]

that thing whit the Blood elves is crappy WoW lore... they never actually allied whit them.

 

[AIagremm]

Forsaken didnt too. Its just a temporary alliance, when F and BE get power they will leave the Horde. Plus Forsaken joined the Horde, because Earthen Circle talled Thrall to let them join(he was against them).
I think that Thrall really returns the Horde to its promal stage(peacefull nations), as they were 40 years ago(can you imagine? it happened only 40 years ago!). He thinks that destroing Alliance like the Old, corrupted Horde did, is bonding the Horde to the demons. They are free! Mostly. One of the reasons why Alliance hates the Horde, are Forsaken and Blood Elves. And the incident with Royal Apothecaries and the New Plague, made the Alliance(at least human part of it)hate the Horde even more.

 

[AIagremm]

It also seems that Alliance only concists of humans, and some dwarwes.
If you look, you may see that night elves and draenei are mostly not involved in the war against the Lich King, and stuff. They stay on Kalimdor. It seems that "political" part of Alliance and the Horde, are once again orcs and humans.

 

[Phoonix]

they never allied whit nor BE thats total WoW lore crap. i don't want to hear it ever again ok?

 

[AIagremm]

Night elves and draenei could easily exist without the rest of alliance.
Night elves would not join the Alliance if Blizzard didnt need too make playable factions.
To this day it is unknown why did the night elves join Alliance.

 

[Phoonix]

the REAL alliance is actually the Horde the Humans of the Mage chick name Jaina Proudmore and then the Night elves. they formed an alliance to stand down to the burning legion.

 

[AIagremm]

Yea, the Alliance of Kalimdor(how I call it).
Too bad that Burning Blade and other reasons destoyed that truce of peace.
And Kalimdor became another bloody battlefield.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Yeah thats how it pretty much worked DAMN YOU BURNING BLADE I THOUGHT I OWNED YOU IN WARCARFT 2. I think they should of got rid of the burning blade they are f---ing retards i mean seriously the fel horde should just role over and die.
Thrall on the other Hand was a bad ass when he was a gladitor, now he just sits on the chair and looks at the floor wondering when jaina will call -.- and also why can't the blood horde and alliance put there racialities agianst the damn undead, that would be the ulitmate alliance.

 

[AIagremm]

Burning blade isnt fel horde.
Their much more. They are the servitors of the Old Gods now!

 

[StormWarriors2]

oh i thought i owned them lol

 

[AIagremm]

They are allies of satyrs, naga(which proves that naga serve Old Gods, who created them), faceless ones and maybe silithid.

 

[StormWarriors2]

ok that makes alot more sense in some ways

 

[Deolrin]

Uh... whats with the Burning Blade? Sorry, I don't know alot of that part of the lore... I only know that Blademaster=burning blade dude(he's battlecry is "For the burning blade!!!" anyways)

 

[StormWarriors2]

Lol Hes not evil
Hes Says Taste My By Burning Blade

 

[Deolrin]

No no, open World Editor, then Sound Editor and play Blademaster's "Warcry1". It's obviously "For the burning blade!"

 

[AIagremm]

I dont think so. Only a few orcish clans were in WC3.

 

[StormWarriors2]

yeah the burning blade wasn't one of them

 

[VeljkoM]

Only Warsong was mentioned in warcraft3.Blackrock clan was still evil there.

And probably Blade,masters were originally from Burning blade clan but the New Hord is mostly freed orcs from camps.

 

[AIagremm]

Through many orcs were Frostwolf clan, it wasnt mensioned.

 

[VeljkoM]

Like Thrall and that Far seer from bonus campaign.Also only Bloodhoof and Darkspear tribe are only troll and tauren clan mentioned also.In warcraft 2 there were more clans.

 

[AIagremm]

Trolls mention mysterious Pinkspear tribe...

 

[VeljkoM]

The legendary Pinkspear Tribe...
They are the most craziest Trolls of them all (counting also forest,Ice and dark trolls also)

 

[AIagremm]

But no one is as feral and dark as the orcish... Flowerpickers clan!!!(It was an easter egg in WC2)

 

[VeljkoM]

Still if there weren't Taurens in the Horde, Horde would be stupid .

 

[Deolrin]

Yo hurt de trolls, mon.

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How about Blood Elves? They are, after all, pretty smart.

 

[VeljkoM]

They aren't really in the horde ,they weren't and they will never be.It is just stupid idea to make it be 2 factions.And don't even dare to say Forsaken.
But island trolls are just dark spear clan.Forest trolls were much better.But still i do apologies to them.

 

[AIagremm]

Jungle trolls(darkspear) are actually the most civilized trolls.
Yeah, the Tauren rule. And even if blood elves and forsaken would join the horde(like that would happen)it would and is only a temporary alliance.

 

[VeljkoM]

Blood elves are ingrates.Humans helped them so many times and this is how they repay them?And in war of the Ancients?They would never be worthy of the horde.

 

[AIagremm]

Blood elves are idiots.
They saw what happened to Kael and they continue to do what he started, saying "Kael is evil, we hate him!"
They could at least remeber that idiot Garithos and the Grand Alliance are not the same thing.
Especially because all of his men are Forsaken for sure! So their most trusted allies are "traitors"!

 

[VeljkoM]

They were much nicer in warcraft 2.Not to much but still nicer.

 

[AIagremm]

They were high elves back then.
The surviving high elves are in Alliance and hate blood elves.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I wouldn't like them either.Blood elves should maybe stay as Ilidari.Or anything but being in the Horde.

 

[AIagremm]

People! Im going to be gone for a week.
Do not lose faith! Not all who wander are lost.

 

[xvarts]

Heres a new subtopic for you. Admiral Proudmoore. He really screwed things up. He could have caused tension that lead to WOW Horde vs.Alliance.

 

[AIagremm]

WoW Horde against the Grand Alliance(WoW Alliance)
Yeap, he is an idiot, through he was a hero one day.
There are demons and undead everywhere(except Kul Tiras from where he came)and he tries to kill old enemyes.
However the war with Alliance began with the Burning Blade cult.

 

[VeljkoM]

Admiral Proudmoore was great hero in second war. He and his men sawthing that couldn't be forgotten that easy. You think his actions are stupid but they weren't at least from his point of view. Great part of his life was spent in war against horde. And it wasn't Burning blade clan it was attack of Twiligfht hammer and Bleeding Hollow clan. These two clans attacked Stormwind and lost because of the human knights.

 

[AIagremm]

I mean the war after the Battle of Mount Hyjal.
It was caused by the Burning Blade's cults actions.

 

[VeljkoM]

Is that from book?

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, its from some book.

 

[VeljkoM]

Something about fel orcs who were successful uncorrupted in Warcraft 3 and didn't exist on Azeroth. They were members of the clan which was destroyed in second war and then served Thrall as blademaster. The novel that was by authors own words created so WoW would have reason to make Horde and Alliance enemies because in Warcraft 3 they were finally friends. The same novel where Medivhs mother just so happens to be found?

 

[AIagremm]

Exactly! Never read it only heard of it.