The Idealists Challenge #2 "Mythical Creatures"

[Vinz]

The IC3 should be postphoned, since jopi is not finished with the judging yet.

 

[sentrywiz]

The IC3 should be postphoned, since jopi is not finished with the judging yet.

As you wish, I completed my entry anyway.

 

[Vinz]

Plus I am sick. ;_; 10 days extension would probably do since we are still lacking in entries.

 

[jopi]

Hi, I'm posting here to inform you that I did NOT forget about the raitings.
I'm nearly done with big categorties (I'm doing that category wise, for every entry so I can compare them better in every single category). I expect that I'm done this weekend (for real, this time -.-').

The reason for the delay was the organic chemistry lab-session I had this semester (yes, I'm studying chemistry^^) and the fact that I was ill right after the end of the holidays cost me some important work time making the already packed plan even more stressful, so I had to concentrate on it, making me only have time for ratings on the weekends.

 

[Vinz]

Take your time at your leisure. :>

 

[sentrywiz]

Hi, I'm posting here to inform you that I did NOT forget about the raitings.
I'm nearly done with big categorties (I'm doing that category wise, for every entry so I can compare them better in every single category). I expect that I'm done this weekend (for real, this time -.-').

The reason for the delay was the organic chemistry lab-session I had this semester (yes, I'm studying chemistry^^) and the fact that I was ill right after the end of the holidays cost me some important work time making the already packed plan even more stressful, so I had to concentrate on it, making me only have time for ratings on the weekends.

Enjoy its cool. Better to not rush it.

Also nice career choice. You're gonna be making drugs for the masses

 

[Vinz]

Or some bombs. You know, alchemist stuff.

 

[sentrywiz]

Or some bombs. You know, alchemist stuff.

Or that. Religious wars are always a great choice to sac your life for...

 

[Chaosy]

Been away for about a week. So here is the converted scores. Tell me if your entry's score is wrongly converted.

new

Atryxar the Archfiend
balance: 5/10 > 13/25
Implemention: 22/25 > 9/10
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Chiron, Centaur Grand Hunter
balance: 5/10 > 13/25
Implemention: 25/25 > 10/10
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Gor'thir'hel the Blood of Gore
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 25/25 > 10/10
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Jhesh'Nu, Guardian of the Underworld
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 21/25 > 8/10
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Malendis, Creature of Darkness
balance: 8/10 > 20/25
Implemention: 18/25 > 7/10
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Mandalgor Frostblaze, The Dragon Overlord
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 19/25 > 8/10
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Merlinae, The Fairy Sorceress Knight
balance: 6/10 > 15/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 8/10
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Morikk the Dwarven Prodigy
balance: 10/10 > 25/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 8/10
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Raza'rr, the Blade Tempest
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 18/25 > 7/10
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Romagus, the Time Elf
balance: 3/10 > 8/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 4/10
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Zeineia, The Mistress of Hell
balance: 4/10 > 10/25
Implemention: 21/25 > 8/10
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[Daffa]

Let me see.... Seems everything is correct except just one minor wrong value (compared the value with the actual score at the first post).

Reply

Atryxar the Archfiend
balance: 5/10 > 13/25
Implemention: 22/25 > 9/10
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Chiron, Centaur Grand Hunter
balance: 5/10 > 13/25
Implemention: 25/25 > 10/10
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Gor'thir'hel the Blood of Gore
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 25/25 > 10/10
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Jhesh'Nu, Guardian of the Underworld
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 21/25 > 8/10
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Malendis, Creature of Darkness
balance: 8/10 > 20/25
Implemention: 18/25 > 7/10
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Mandalgor Frostblaze, The Dragon Overlord
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 19/25 > 8/10
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Merlinae, The Fairy Sorceress Knight
balance: 6/10 > 15/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 8/10
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Morikk the Dwarven Prodigy
balance: 10/10 > 25/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 8/10
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Raza'rr, the Blade Tempest
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 18/25 > 7/10
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Romagus, the Time Elf
balance: 3/10 > 8/25
Implemention: 20 10/25 > 4/10
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Zeineia, The Mistress of Hell
balance: 4/10 > 10/25
Implemention: 21/25 > 8/10
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[Fang]

Daffa the Mage and Chaosy have much of which to be proud

 

[Moy]

This took long. However, I'm getting busy soon too.

 

[sentrywiz]

This took long. However, I'm getting busy soon too.

People have their shiet. Also its kind of jopi's fault. Said the results are coming and they never did. Either way, when it comes I will upload it and pester the rep givers *cough* admins to distribute rep.

 

[Dreadwing]

Been away for about a week. So here is the converted scores. Tell me if your entry's score is wrongly converted.

new

Atryxar the Archfiend
balance: 5/10 > 13/25
Implemention: 22/25 > 9/10
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Chiron, Centaur Grand Hunter
balance: 5/10 > 13/25
Implemention: 25/25 > 10/10
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Gor'thir'hel the Blood of Gore
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 25/25 > 10/10
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Jhesh'Nu, Guardian of the Underworld
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 21/25 > 8/10
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Malendis, Creature of Darkness
balance: 8/10 > 20/25
Implemention: 18/25 > 7/10
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Mandalgor Frostblaze, The Dragon Overlord
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 19/25 > 8/10
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Merlinae, The Fairy Sorceress Knight
balance: 6/10 > 15/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 8/10
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Morikk the Dwarven Prodigy
balance: 10/10 > 25/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 8/10
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Raza'rr, the Blade Tempest
balance: 9/10 > 23/25
Implemention: 18/25 > 7/10
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Romagus, the Time Elf
balance: 3/10 > 8/25
Implemention: 20/25 > 4/10
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Zeineia, The Mistress of Hell
balance: 4/10 > 10/25
Implemention: 21/25 > 8/10
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Seems some entry's scores are missing.....

 

[jopi]

Yes, Berken's score is somehow missing in chaosy's ratings.

Also I DID IT! (finally... -.-'), just sent my scores to sentrywiz.

 

[Sclammerz]

Yes, Berken's score is somehow missing in chaosy's ratings.

Also I DID IT! (finally... -.-'), just sent my scores to sentrywiz.

*Hurray*

 

[Chaosy]

Shit! I just notice I haven't even judged that entry, the author must be slacking since he hasn't told me.

I will review it before I go to bed.¨

edit: done.

review

Chaosy's review on Breken, the Vile Fiend

CONCEPT LORE PRESENTATION MECHANICS COMPLEXITY BALANCE IMPLEMENTATION TOTAL 10 POINTS Is the hero idea valid with the chosen theme? Is the concept original and/or well modified? 10 POINTS Personally I don't think this suits the theme. It's a big spider with some extraordinary poision. The keybinds are odd. The language is horriblly written and there are countless grammar failures. 2/10 10 POINTS Is the lore compatible with the hero? Does the lore paint a clear picture of the hero? Is the lore specific enough in terms of origin of the hero? Does the lore fit with the overall map theme lore? Describes the origin of the character but lacks deph and well.. information. You give a decent base story, but if you want to give your hero/character deph you really need to develop the story with more info. And as said before, it's horribly written, while there aren't spelling mistakes the grammar is very bad and there are missing words at various places. 3/10 15 POINTS Are the hero stats, attributes, abilities, lore and other shown in a clean, readable user interface (UI)? Did the author use enough graphic material to represent his or her hero idea to the fullest? I really like the prentation style here. It's clean and informative. And it's very charmy as well. I truly love the color combination. Full score, no doubt. 15/15 20 POINTS How does the hero mechanics work with each other? Are the spells synergistic between each other? How difficult this hero's play style would seem for an average player? Lacks synergy, but there are multiple skillshots and the ultimate seems really interesting as well since the summoned minions has their own abilities. 15/20 10 POINTS Are the hero mechanics as complex as necessary? Does the complexity level of the hero provide fun and interesting gameplay? If yes, why? I like the ability concept when it comes to ability depth, you take the abilties a step higher and manage to keep it at a simple level. Even though the utlimate can be really hard to controll depending on how you want to design the minions to work. If you want them to be controled manually it could be a little too much. But if there is a pet system or something.. 9/10 25 POINTS Is the hero balanced for the chosen map theme? Are the abilities, stats or attributes shown break the balance in some way? Is the hero in a playable state as described or it needs rework? If yes, what needs to be changed and why? The hero seems a little weak damage wise, but he brings plenty of cc to make up for that. I'd say he is pretty balanced but leaning towards being among the weaker heroes. 22/25 10 POINTS Can this hero be created into the chosen map? If yes, what is the complexity required for a playable state? Approximately how long would an average creator need to create this hero? There shouldn't be any problems to add this unless you want a AI system for the ultimate. Even though you need above basic knowledge to create skillshots. 9/10 CONCEPT (2/10) LORE (3/10) PRESENTATION (15/15) MECHANICS (15/20) COMPLEXITY (9/10) BALANCE (22/25) IMPLEMENTATION (9/10) TOTAL (75/100)

 

[Vinz]

What entry?... Oh that entry. o_o

 

[Chaosy]

So it wasn't just me? whoooo!

 

[Moy]

Where's the results?

 

[sentrywiz]

Where's the results?

I'll do it one of these days cuz I need to throw everything in the results page.
As you know its a big new table with lots of scores.
Also need to apply your formula, which I've forgotten again. -.-

 

[Vinz]

What formula? It seems like another 30 line solution math

 

[Moy]

[(Chaosy + jopi)/2] x 0.75 + (poll *0.25)

The formula for the poll is in the contest poll thread.

 

[sentrywiz]

[(Chaosy + jopi)/2] x 0.75 + (poll *0.25)

The formula for the poll is in the contest poll thread.

Right. I'll use that

Also I get an error when editing the thread, apparently the thread is sick of me constantly adding more stuff to it so it finally tells me to go fuck myself and I get this error: The text that you have entered is too long (267459 characters). Please shorten it to 200000 characters long.

In other words, I will have to delete chaosy and jopi's judge scores so that I can make the final table.

EDIT: the culprit is jopi. His / hers judging is WAY too detailed (nothing bad with it) but since its like that I cannot upload it to the thread directly so I will just share a link to the pastebin where the scores are.

 

[Vinz]

How'd it even get past 200k? ;_;

 

[sentrywiz]

How'd it even get past 200k? ;_;

idk. jopi apparently stole another 60k lines of text. gg wp! the thread surrenders

anyway - I've started compiling the results. my head already hurts from nightmare's twisted formula of destruction.

 

[sentrywiz]

RESULTS ARE OUT!!!


Thanks for your participation.
Hope the IC continues to be better and better.

Mythic and Nolyp - your scores were EXACTLY IDENTICAL so you both get 2nd place.

 

[jopi]

well, lol....

I've had a feeling thats something like this would happen ..... -.-

If you want (so make the thread complete) I can make a shortened version of my ratings so you can post them. Should one want to get some detail info you still can link to the pastebin (on a side note my review is only 2190 lines, if not shorter .... not 60k XD)

And , Congratularions to the winners and every one else who participated!

 

[Moy]

I thought Chaosy's scores are changed? A little wrong with the poll calculation. I'll try to compute.

 

[sentrywiz]

I thought Chaosy's scores are changed? A little wrong with the poll calculation. I'll try to compute.

Well chaosy only made a mistake in the balance > implementation. His "new" scores didn't include any new final scores of his own. So I used those that he had previously provided. If I made a critical mistake, do scour and find out.

 

[Moy]

Okay.

So the total voters is : 12?

and you won't include the self votes?

another, you made a wrong cal to the poll.

I'm almost finish with the final scores. Seems ranking will change.

 

[sentrywiz]

Okay.

So the total voters is : 12?

and you won't include the self votes?

another, you made a wrong cal to the poll.

I'm almost finish with the final scores. Seems ranking will change.

Oh boy. Well let's see

 

[Moy]

I'll be including the self votes. The poll helped much for the winner I think.

 

[Moy]

I'll double post for everybody to be notified. I can't believe, now I do agree with sentrywiz's opinion about reducing the poll from 25% to 20%.

RESULTS

Please recalculate if you wish, if there's any errors please say it.

 

[sentrywiz]

I'll double post for everybody to be notified. I can't believe, now I do agree with sentrywiz's opinion about reducing the poll from 25% to 20%.

RESULTS

Please recalculate if you wish, if there's any errors please say it.

That's not the formula you told me about the public votes.

This is the formula I followed:

(((Judge1Score + Judge2Score) / 2) * 0.75 + (NumOfVotes * 0.25))

Plus you count all the self-votes which we agreed that aren't gonna be counted.

Also I see the chaosy scores are changed here and there. This is what I forgot to do and I will do it again.
Nevertheless, the formula you gave me isn't the one you're using here.

EDIT:

I read the poll formula in the poll thread.
I totally missed that one.

Well it seems everything is in order. But to be honest, not to sound like I'm QQ-ing about losing my first place
all of the formulas are obscured as fuck and only you know them. Plus they need sort of revamping, both from
the perspective of a judge/host/participant. So for the next IC, please put them somewhere in the main thread
so that there will be no confusion.

I will use your image instead of the scores I posted. Grats on your first place. I'm okay with not being 1st,
but all this confusion gave me headache. Share all your formulas IN ONE PLACE next time.

 

[Moy]

I won't be joining next time, I'm out.

 

[sentrywiz]

I won't be joining next time, I'm out.

Your hacks are on cooldown? XD

Btw you are lacking the names of the contestants in your image.
Here, look at the table I made and add the names to your table.
Then reupload the image so I can link it in the main thread.

table

RESULTS FOR IC #2 MYTHICAL CREATURES

Entry Name	Author Name	Finished WIP	Chaosy's Score	Jopi's Score	Public Poll/Vote	Final Score	Place
Jhesh'Nu, Guardian of the Underworld	Sentrywiz	Yes	87	85	0 (0%)	64.5	1ST PLACE
Morikk the Dwarven Prodigy	Nolyp	Yes	84	85	0 (0%)	63.37	2ND PLACE
Atryxar the Archfiend	Mythic	Yes	87	82	0 (0%)	63.37	2ND PLACE
Malendis, Creature of Darkness	GreeN!X	Yes	77	86	3 (17.65%)	61.87	3RD PLACE
Merlinae, The Fairy Sorceress Knight	Templassassin	Yes	58	55	1 (5.88%)	42.62	Participated
Raza'rr, the Blade Tempest	Nightmare	Yes	80	82	3 (17.65%)	61.5	Participated
Romagus the Time Elf	Daffa the Mage	Yes	49	77	1 (5.88%)	47.5	Participated
Zeineia, The Mistress of Hell	Sclammerz	Yes	79	75	0 (0%)	57.75	Participated
Mandalgor, The Dragon Overlord	Fang	Yes	77	48	0 (0%)	46.87	Participated
Gor'thir'hel the Blood of Gore	Edge45	Yes	86	69	1 (5.88%)	58.37	Participated
Chiron, Centaur Grand Hunter	Dawn	Yes	81	79	0 (0%)	60	Participated
Breken, the Vile Fiend	Dhika axe	Yes	75	64	0 (0%)	52.12	Participated
Furnace, the Missing One	Ukn0wnd3str0y3r	No	0	0	0 (0%)	0	Participated
Garuda, the Mythical Bird	Darko_Darkking	No	0	0	0 (0%)	0	Participated

 

[Moy]

Your hacks are on cooldown? XD

Only the poll saved me. But you are the winner if we will be basing from the judges' scores.

 

[Sclammerz]

I though Razza'rr was the winner, now I'm confused.

Edit: OK. I just realized it now.

 

[Chaosy]

Razza'rr would have scored 87 and made tied first place among my scores if it wasn't for the super advanced ultimate I was really harsh on that one.

 

[Moy]

The ultimate was a rush, that's why it is so super advanced.

Here it is sentrywiz

lol

EDIT: I might join IC3

 

[sentrywiz]

EDIT: I might join IC3

Nuu. We can't beat hax0rz

Ok uploaded your image. Do I need to re-inform fladdermasken and ralle or you already did it?

 

[Moy]

I haven't informed.

 

[Vinz]

You might join? That's good news.

 

[GreeN!X]

What. How the fuck did I reach 2nd? Saved by the poll?

 

[Chaosy]

If no one would've voted for you in the public poll you would've been in 5th place or something

 

[Moy]

Saved by the poll :3 because it is a restricted poll where the participant's votes are only counted.

 

[Templassassin]

Sad... T_T

 

[Vinz]

The poll is an evil propaganda I could've been 3rd hahaha

Anyways, congrats to the winners!

 

[Dreadwing]

Sad... T_T

Why you're feeling sad?