The Chosen Ones 1.0

[Kupownage]

Holy hell, this campaign is massive. DLing now, I'll tell you what i think by Sunday.

 

[borispark0221]

I just love your campaign. It's like so cool. I can't wait til it's done, like completely. When are you planning to finish this campaign, cuz I don't want to download 80mb of file again for just one or two more new chapters.
When you made this map, did you get an idea from something, cuz story is like so good, that I can't believe you came out with it. From names to maps. (This is a compliment)

 

[kingkrick]

i can't play chapitre 7 :i have alle hero at lvl50 no item and no gold

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

kingkrick, that is because that chapter is not finished and should not be played.
Still, if you found other bugs, I am sure aero will like to know them.

 

[kingkrick]

yes i see thanks!

i found another bug:

in chapitre 6 the black gate dont need the key i can atack them and enter without using the black keys (if you fix this this map will need at leaste 5 or 6 houre to finish all the quest)

also in front the blue gate in south it say you need red key(not blue key) you realy should fix this because is a litlle confuising even if this gate is open with the blue key

always in chapitre 6 we can't see the optional quest you will just to habe to be lucky in the second one(the mister skeleton quest is quite funny and also can be played because you will found the blue key in south so the problems is in the other quest)

that all i found i hope i l d help you

 

[Aeroblyctos]

-in chapitre 2 when i go to nrth next the barbarian camps i can't go forward iveen if the path is clear

Hmmmm.... I checked that out and I didn't see anything wrong. Can you please tell more accurate?

-in the chapitre 5 i can't use the key to see the vampire

You mean in the basement? Yup the vampire is there but I checked that out and it seems also to be working. You got the key? And you were near to that basement? It should say: "now you can enter" or something like that.

_there is some spells problemes with the items

What spell problems?

i can't play chapitre 7 :i have alle hero at lvl50 no item and no gold

Now you can play chapter 7. You were playing version 1.6 where I did not have released chapter 7 yet. Now it is released. Next version will be released in couple of weeks and it will include chapter 8. It's currently 80% done so no worries!

in chapitre 6 the black gate dont need the key i can atack them and enter without using the black keys (if you fix this this map will need at leaste 5 or 6 houre to finish all the quest)

Okay, I will check this out next.

also in front the blue gate in south it say you need red key(not blue key) you realy should fix this because is a litlle confuising even if this gate is open with the blue key

Okay, this I also check now.

always in chapitre 6 we can't see the optional quest you will just to habe to be lucky in the second one(the mister skeleton quest is quite funny and also can be played because you will found the blue key in south so the problems is in the other quest)

Hmm... you are right. But well, you just gotta wander around the place to find some optional things(just like in every chapter).

I'm not happy with chapter 6 myself. There is just massively units. I try to do something new there... maybe you have suggestions for something nice?

+rep & credits given

 

[kingkrick]

hello

the is a major probleme in the golem quest the game is instable when i go to fghit the statue

i m still testing i will give more information tomorow

 

[Skrakar]

I simply adore your campaign,but combineable items are a pain in the neck...
Would you care to simplify it a bit?For example,Dark Stone and Fire Stone combine and give Dark Fire Stone?
Or you could give the heroes a pack horse that'll carry items for them and be carried on in later chapters?That would simplify combining items a lot.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Question, if this is version 1.7 rit ?? than you should change the title, because title says it is version 1.6

Also, What did you think of some of my spells ?
I am now working on an thunder spell, maybe you would like to see if it is good for an item or such ?

EDIT
Hey, I found a bug in chapter 1:
- When I entered Dalli village the welcome cinematic was, somehow, mixed with the kill golem cinematic, thus making me unable to understand the story. Also the cameras went mad for no reason ...

In chapter 2 there is also another bug: Fradz can not get the tier 2 Item, he is to fat for the track, and so i can not move on.

I think you should fix at least the second bug.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

the is a major probleme in the golem quest the game is instable when i go to fghit the statue

Oh yes. I knew that would be buggy. It's because of that bugful knockback trigger. I try to put something else for this boss.

Or you could give the heroes a pack horse that'll carry items for them and be carried on in later chapters?That would simplify combining items a lot.

I have been thinking to give heroes' more space. One of my friends is currently making somekind of item thing where you can put items but I wonder if he ever finishes it. You might have any ideas what should I do?

Question, if this is version 1.7 rit ?? than you should change the title, because title says it is version 1.6

Last version was 1.5 right? Then this is 1.6!

Also, What did you think of some of my spells ?
I am now working on an thunder spell, maybe you would like to see if it is good for an item or such ?

Those spells you showed(like that copter comes from sky and drop nuclear bomb) is not spells I'm searching for. But they seem to be very nice and I congratulate about them.
So here are the spells I need:
Tier 5: Phoenix Fire - Casts a powerful phoenix fire from the sky dealing 1000 damage.
Tier 4: Ice Horror - Somekind of ice magic. Only to one unit also. Should decrease armor + damage.
Tier 5: X - Lightning spell. Maybe you have suggestions?

- When I entered Dalli village the welcome cinematic was, somehow, mixed with the kill golem cinematic, thus making me unable to understand the story. Also the cameras went mad for no reason ...

Strange indeed! I check it out immediatly.

In chapter 2 there is also another bug: Fradz can not get the tier 2 Item, he is to fat for the track, and so i can not move on.

Tier 2 item? You mean... hmm?

So guys, I'm waiting for a lot more bugs from chapter 7. Hope you guys can give some nice ideas also. I'm making chapter 8 currently and work is going fast! I hope everything will be finished in one week.

 

[kingkrick]

well well what can i say

i fineched chapitre 7 100%(iveen the quest of the portal)

so lets talk about bugs:
-the bug of the golem quest(very big boss=game become instable)

-also when you accept the goleme quest you go fhigt in the arena in the 3 comabt when you win the commandant tell you if you are ready to the golem(iven if i don't complete all 5 duel) each 5 seconde you have to say no because we can't see the question

-when i go to the protal sometime i don't see the bubles(this quest is very dificult but its worthy 4999 gold)



thats all the bugs i found

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Tier 5: Phoenix Fire - Casts a powerful phoenix fire from the sky dealing 1000 damage.
Tier 4: Ice Horror - Somekind of ice magic. Only to one unit also. Should decrease armor + damage.
Tier 5: X - Lightning spell. Maybe you have suggestions?

That doesn't seem to hard to do, i can do them for you.
Mmm, I will give you a link to my lightning spell, but know that it is not completedyet.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83475

Mmm I wll post a screenshot of the bug asap.

EDIT
Here is the image

 

[kingkrick]

yes that is the path that i toleked about it

to get the ithem its not the path!! you must go to the barbarian camp and go north you will find a secret path ho will lead you to this ithem and another (some kind of a ring)

also you raely should think about a pack when we can add our ithem(like the excalibur sowrd i m carrying now 5/6 pieces that i need to form the sword i lets out many ithem...sniff

 

[xxdingo93xx]

Tier 5: X - Lightning spell. Maybe you have suggestions?

Lightning spells are my subject tell me what you need and I'll try to make what you wish.

If you need any cinematic or small-cinematic lightning spell then maybe try this one.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/spells/1410/

 

[Aeroblyctos]

so lets talk about bugs:
-the bug of the golem quest(very big boss=game become instable)

Okay, I will fix that boss.

-also when you accept the goleme quest you go fhigt in the arena in the 3 comabt when you win the commandant tell you if you are ready to the golem(iven if i don't complete all 5 duel) each 5 seconde you have to say no because we can't see the question

Hmmm... I see, let's see what I can do.

-when i go to the protal sometime i don't see the bubles(this quest is very dificult but its worthy 4999 gold)

Almost 5000 gold!? I gotta check that out. Maybe I have put too much... or there's somekind of bug!

For Flame_Phoenix: That bug in picture is not a bug. You can go get that item. There is a way behind barbarian village.

And I checked that spell you mentioned. If I'm going to put that spell in my campaign you should make it smaller. I mean, those lightning are good but the area where they hit should be a lot smaller. Also it would be good if they always hit directly to enemies. Then it would be perfect for my campaign!

xxdingo93xx, your spell is awesome. However, I'm not sure if it's good for my campaign because it's very long one. I think I maybe can put it to cinematic. We will see.

xxdingo93xx:Did you get the Excalibur? If I remember right the sixth item was in chapter 6/7(I mean the sword).

 

[kingkrick]

xxdingo93xx:Did you get the Excalibur? If I remember right the sixth item was in chapter 6/7(I mean the sword).

hummm i think i forget 1 because in chapitre 6 i have buyed the sword

 

[Aeroblyctos]

You mean you forgot Dark Stone? Yeah, that's in chapter 6.

 

[kingkrick]

no i have found dark stone also

now i remember

is there 2 dark stone?
because i have threw one out...

 

[Aeroblyctos]

There should be only one... Oh yeah there is two dark stones! I will delete chapter 6's dark stone. Now it should be okay.

Fire Stone
Lightning Stone
Ice Stone
Poison Stone
Dark Stone
Old Sword
=> Excalibur

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Hi mate, I think i found a nice bug this time, a easy to fix one.
It is in the first map with galeoth. I made a movie to help you see the problem.
You can easily fix it by making the wall a dummy unit with locust, per example.

Also, i had to start from level 1 to test the new campaign ... =S
I am not sure if that "saving heroes in cache" thing works if you change versions =S

Btw, what do you think of my spell, and my offer (to make a spell for you, if you need or want).

 

[kingkrick]

Also, i had to start from level 1 to test the new campaign ... =S
I am not sure if that "saving heroes in cache" thing works if you change versions =S

hummmmm

it worked for me flame i dpont no why ir haven't worked for you

There should be only one... Oh yeah there is two dark stones! I will delete chapter 6's dark stone. Now it should be okay.

Fire Stone
Lightning Stone
Ice Stone
Poison Stone
Dark Stone
Old Sword
=> Excalibur

ok i have trew darck stone and her oposit but now i have excalibur

when the next version will be out it will be a plaisir de test also

now i remember

in the message quest when i go to have the sword of azerus i see another room full with explosive and barrel but i can't go is there a secret path or is attentional?

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

it worked for me flame i dpont no why ir haven't worked for you

I don't know that either ... Although the human error is always a possibility, i still am sure it hardly was my fault (although there is a chance that it is in fact my fault).

Anyway, i found more bugs, and I came up with some suggestions:
1 - the honor symbol is a flag, but when you pick it up, it is wood, which is very bad.
You should replace the wood by a item that looks like a flag, per example. When the hero catches the item, then 1 wood is added. This would improve the honor points system.
Also, you can change the wood symbol, i think i explain that in one of my tutorials (the icon one).

2 - In the Great Swamp level, the quest for the silver sword has no image and no description. Even when you find the quest, and even when you complete the quest (by returning the silver sword to the merchant) there is no symbol nor description for it. You should update it.
Also, the merchant has 2 items, which make part of a 3 items set. The 1st item can not be found on the map. Shouldn't the merchant guy give you the 1st item, so you can buy him the other 2 ?

3 - Also, there is a conflict. The Ability of Phodom which grants him 25, 50 , etc bonus attack, will not work properly if you have the orbs. The fire animation on the hammer will not be shown.

4 - Also, in level 1, you have a "box" to save items. That box has an item called bots next to it (why are the bots not inside the box ????). Also, the items you place in the box, are lost forever. You should make this box available for the other levels of the heroes, or create a single box for each hero.
If you don't like this, than using an item storage system would be the perfect idea. I know some good systems, if you want, i can search them for you to use /change.

5 - Finally i must confess i am disappointed with the swamp level. It only has one optional quest which is, by the way, bugged.
My suggestion would be to add a new quest. But not simple quest like "kill the guy, or rescue the item".
I was thinking of a fight between the good trees and bad trees. If you want to know details, you can talk to me, I have pretty much of an idea of what would be good for the map, if you wanna know.

6 - To end, for those people who like to make destructive criticism - well, that is not the right thing to do, but, although we don't like to hear it, we should evaluate the truth of their sentences. They are correct, in the start, the game can indeed be slow and boring.
In level 1, people will be tempted to kill creeps to gain gold (like i did), because they don't know that following the path will lead to new adventures.
A solution for this would be to make the wife say for us to follow the path ( a tip).
Another solution would be to increase the heroe's walk speed, or to add teleport points, in order to make the game faster.
However, we can never forget this is a strategy game, no matter what we change on it, and so it will always need us to be patient and to think.

Btw, the new swamp monster is great, the division thing is totally unexpected, great job.

Also, i feel like the musics are becoming a little to repetitive, so I have some musics you may wan to hear for the game.
They are in general musics from BeoWulf, Pirates of the caribbean, King Arthur, ect (movie soudntracks). I think some of them would fit into the campaign, but i really think you should listen to them.

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Ohh... nice video Flame_Phoenix! I see. You should not go to that way. I just need to put it invunerable/unclickable. How did you make that video? It looks cool! I wanna do also videos like that and maybe post some to youtube or somewhere. It would be good advertise.

when the next version will be out it will be a plaisir de test also

I try to do it in 1-2 week. Chapter 8 is a lot smaller chapter than 7(7 is the biggest). Chapter 8 is about size of chapter 5.

in the message quest when i go to have the sword of azerus i see another room full with explosive and barrel but i can't go is there a secret path or is attentional?

Ooooh yea, I have not put that to chapter 7. Still thinking what should I put there. X_x

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

MM, I could teach you in deed.
But my secrets do have a price =P (joking).
I shall aid you in this matter when i have time.

For now, I would appreciate if you could read my last post (941) and comment it as well.
Also, I think i may have found other bugs in chapter 5.
There is this item "basement key" which is useless so far ... I would like to know what it is for.
Also, if I get together 2 orbs, they won't merge into a single orb. It doesn't seem to be working. I can post another movie if you want.

 

[kingkrick]

humm the basment key work to find the vampire (aditional boss)

because i m good to find all the secret in each level i will tell you:

you should go to the other side of the pub that fredz and his frend where talking in the first movie the basment is unlicked and you fghit that vampire


ps:excuse my english i not an english or american

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Lol, nice secret, although the doom lord is more difficult to kill =P
However, there is one quest i can't find ... How do I bring flowers to the cemetery ?
I've already done the magic heart, deliver thing, kill orange things, and talk to tree man in the purple forest, but i can't find the last quest, where is it ?
Btw, read my last 2 posts, they report important bugs and suggestions.

 

[kingkrick]

Also, the merchant has 2 items, which make part of a 3 items set. The 1st item can not be found on the map. Shouldn't the merchant guy give you the 1st item, so you can buy him the other 2 ?

thats because the 3 ithem is in the next level

you must buyed from a merchent to form the miragh's staff

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

thats because the 3 ithem is in the next level

Mm, i didn't find any miragh's item in this level (the next one).
Anyway, this quest (bunker) is an horrible thing to do ... you shouldn't be teaching people this ... heroes wouldn't do it ...

Also, i found another bug. The Light sword (yes i have it =D) should only damage undead units, however, it also heals friendly units !!! You should either change this, or change the tooltip !

 

[kingkrick]

no its next the road you will by the armor if i remembre

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Anyway, i found more bugs, and I came up with some suggestions:1 - the honor symbol is a flag, but when you pick it up, it is wood, which is very bad.You should replace the wood by a item that looks like a flag, per example. When the hero catches the item, then 1 wood is added. This would improve the honor points system.Also, you can change the wood symbol, i think i explain that in one of my tutorials (the icon one).

I'm not 100% sure what you are talking about. Honor point should be a a flag item. Also the icon in up screen should be a flag icon instead of wood icon.

2 - In the Great Swamp level, the quest for the silver sword has no image and no description. Even when you find the quest, and even when you complete the quest (by returning the silver sword to the merchant) there is no symbol nor description for it. You should update it.
Also, the merchant has 2 items, which make part of a 3 items set. The 1st item can not be found on the map. Shouldn't the merchant guy give you the 1st item, so you can buy him the other 2 ?

Fixed. Now you can have that set only from chapter 5.

3 - Also, there is a conflict. The Ability of Phodom which grants him 25, 50 , etc bonus attack, will not work properly if you have the orbs. The fire animation on the hammer will not be shown.

Aha... this I don't know how to fix. You might know how to fix this? X_x

4 - Also, in level 1, you have a "box" to save items. That box has an item called bots next to it (why are the bots not inside the box ????). Also, the items you place in the box, are lost forever. You should make this box available for the other levels of the heroes, or create a single box for each hero.
If you don't like this, than using an item storage system would be the perfect idea. I know some good systems, if you want, i can search them for you to use /change.

Oh yea, I forgot to delete that box. It would be nice if you search somekind of item system. However, remember that it have to work in campaign(remember game cache).

5 - Finally i must confess i am disappointed with the swamp level. It only has one optional quest which is, by the way, bugged.
My suggestion would be to add a new quest. But not simple quest like "kill the guy, or rescue the item".
I was thinking of a fight between the good trees and bad trees. If you want to know details, you can talk to me, I have pretty much of an idea of what would be good for the map, if you wanna know.

Okay, gimme some opinions! Btw, did you killed "Mielipuoli" and get Sword Of Darkness?

They are in general musics from BeoWulf, Pirates of the caribbean, King Arthur, ect (movie soudntracks). I think some of them would fit into the campaign, but i really think you should listen to them.

Of course it would be nice to hear some new musics and put some to campaign. When I started to make this campaign I chose some musics. Since I have not touched to musics. I do have 10 gt game music and 25 gt "real" music. But how you are going to send me? I'm always open to have new friends in MSN. My email address is [email protected]

There is this item "basement key" which is useless so far ...

With basement key you can go and kill a secret boss in basement. A vampire. It's in Dragon Inn's behind.

Also, if I get together 2 orbs, they won't merge into a single orb. It doesn't seem to be working. I can post another movie if you want.

I double checked it and it should work. Send me a video, thanks man!

How do I bring flowers to the cemetery ?

Just find a flower and put it near a grave. It should give a nice summon item(never tested it, X_x).

Also, i found another bug. The Light sword (yes i have it =D) should only damage undead units, however, it also heals friendly units !!! You should either change this, or change the tooltip !

WTF? Heal? Oh noes, I it should not heal! X_X I will fix it immediatly!

Well thanks so far about bugs guys! And couple last questions for everyone. It would be nice guys/ladies if you can answer.
- How much did you got gold in chapter 1-7?
- What enemies are too strong/weak?
- What bosses are too strong/weak?
- You might see something what is not balanced?
- Heroes' spell are too strong/weak?
- Any other suggestions?

 

[kingkrick]

Mielipuoli!!!??

are you sur? i scout all the maps and i don't meet any Mielipuoli(i have buyed the sword of light)

 

[Aeroblyctos]

It's a secret quest! You need to find secret item stones. They lead you to mielipuoli!

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

EDIT EDIT
added my idea of a story line for the swamp level. Please read and leave comments ! (good comments =D)

I'm not 100% sure what you are talking about. Honor point should be a a flag item. Also the icon in up screen should be a flag icon instead of wood icon.

That is what i mean. I find it better than the piece of wood lol.

Aha... this I don't know how to fix. You might know how to fix this? X_x

Well, I've been thinking about your problem, and i found a solution. However it is a complicated one: To make that ability a triggered ability.
That problem would be fixed using JASS. We could use "SetWidgetLife()" function to make the damage and we could use "AddSpecialEffect" for the fire in the hammer.
This would be the very easy part, now the difficult part would be to detect the "autocast", which, as far as i know, can only be done with immolation. However i am sure there is a way to use autocast, i just don't know it yet.

Oh yea, I forgot to delete that box. It would be nice if you search somekind of item system. However, remember that it have to work in campaign(remember game cache).

Sure, yo can try this map, it is a very good item system. There are others to simulate diablo's item system and such, but i believe you are looking for something like this:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/spells/44/ - this uses game cache like requested, but there are other as well.
I can search for more if I have more time. Also, this system allows you to choose the hero level stats (or you can just ignore the function and remove it)

Okay, gimme some opinions! Btw, did you killed "Mielipuoli" and get Sword Of Darkness?

Killed MieWho !? I find it difficult to memorize the names of the monsters i kill lol.
Do you mean the doom lord of the portal ? He left two nice items in deed =) (Fradz has the super sword, because it won't stack with Phodom's =D ).

About the suggestion i have 1 in mind: Before the swamp that region was a nice forest and a beautiful area. However, the war of the dragoons scared the land, leaving many trees with the evil of the dragon's in they "blood" and so the forest became corrupted. Now the bad trees are allied with Xvareon. However a set of ancients still fights to recover the the forest to its glorious past. This is the reason, now the two factions have been fighting for ages. The bridge was broken due a war fatality - the ancients sent a tree to get help for the castle, but the infected trees discovered the plan, killed the messenger and than destroyed the bridge, leaving the ancients isolated with no chance to ever get reinforcements and to die.
When Phodom arrives, the ancients are nearly dead, the war is going bad for them, and their only hope is to get a magic recipe (of items Phodom can get) and to start channeling a powerful magic spell. During the channeling the ancients will be heavily attacked and Phdom must defend them from the enemy assaults from the different fronts.
During all this process (and while getting the ingredients for the recipe) Phodom meets an infected creature that knows the black hooded man. After defending the ancients while they channel the spell, Phodom also has to destroy the dragon heart, the evil item that originated the whole process of death and decay in the forest. Now, the bad trees will defend that item as hard as possible, from the attacks of the surviving ancients. Phodm must be fast, otherwise dragon reinforcements may arrive to aid the bad trees.
When he is close enough to the item to destroy it, than the bad trees use their last hope, they summon the Urghal (the ugly boss) to defend the item. However the boss is pure evil, and can not be controlled, killing the creature that Phodom met (thus killing his chances to know where the black hooded man was) and killing most nearby bad trees near it.
With the summoning of the monster and its unexpected reaction everything is in a chaos, with bad trees running for their life's and good trees trying to run and kill bad trees.
During this chaos, Phodom must kill Urghal to destroy the dragon heart item before it is too late, and before the monster takes any more answers with him.
When the item is destroyed, Phodom returns, a hero to the forest ... However the ancients do not have any gold nor items. Phodom is not worried, "Doing good and saving innocent life's is enough reward for a dragon slayer", he says to the ancient.
The ancients get very admired with his attitude, and so Phodom enters the story of the forest, gaining honor points, the friendship of powerful animals and a statue, raised by the ancients, to remember the eternal hero.

Hope you like this story, although it is a little bit complex, i think it is great for the campaign =P

Of course it would be nice to hear some new musics and put some to campaign. When I started to make this campaign I chose some musics. Since I have not touched to musics. I do have 10 gt game music and 25 gt "real" music. But how you are going to send me? I'm always open to have new friends in MSN. My email address is [email protected]

I'll select some of my musics and i shall send them to you commented with an idea when i have time.
Also, you should NOT type your email like that, spam Bots and email bots will sure find it and use you personal email for trojan attacks and such (trust me, this things and worse things DO happen).

I double checked it and it should work. Send me a video, thanks man!

I will post a video as soon as i can. Also I will soon explain you my secret. There is also a chance that i make a tutorial of it for THW, so every1 can use it an learn with it.

Just find a flower and put it near a grave. It should give a nice summon item(never tested it, X_x).

Problem is that i can't pick any flowers, because there is no "flower item". Also, what happens if i give flowers to the wrong camp ?

 

[kingkrick]

It's a secret quest! You need to find secret item stones. They lead you to mielipuoli!

witch chapitre please?

 

[Skrakar]

Aero,I think these two things would spice up your campaign a bit.
http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=83177
http://www.wc3campaigns.net/showthread.php?t=92974

 

[kyo_fight]

btw, i found it very difficult to collect item sets since only chapter 1 has the store box, and it is gone afterwards.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Here is Item bug in a video. Worry not, i shall teach you my techniques, that is a promise, you'll just have to wait a litlle.
I am in chapter 6 now=)

Also i shall soon find better item systems.
Btw, plz comment my suggestions =P

Btw, kingkrick, i believe he mentions chapter 4, although i am not much sure.

Also, the interlude 2, i don't think that a reference to the monster of Amstetten is such a "pleasant and good idea" .... it already shocks people to know such monsters don't exist only in the TV, mention them in here is a little bit ... to bad =S

 

[Aeroblyctos]

About the suggestion i have 1 in mind: Before the swamp that region was a nice forest and a beautiful area. However, the war of the dragoons scared the land, leaving many trees with the evil of the dragon's in they "blood" and so the forest became corrupted. Now the bad trees are allied with Xvareon. However a set of ancients still fights to recover the the forest to its glorious past. This is the reason, now the two factions have been fighting for ages. The bridge was broken due a war fatality - the ancients sent a tree to get help for the castle, but the infected trees discovered the plan, killed the messenger and than destroyed the bridge, leaving the ancients isolated with no chance to ever get reinforcements and to die.
When Phodom arrives, the ancients are nearly dead, the war is going bad for them, and their only hope is to get a magic recipe (of items Phodom can get) and to start channeling a powerful magic spell. During the channeling the ancients will be heavily attacked and Phdom must defend them from the enemy assaults from the different fronts.
During all this process (and while getting the ingredients for the recipe) Phodom meets an infected creature that knows the black hooded man. After defending the ancients while they channel the spell, Phodom also has to destroy the dragon heart, the evil item that originated the whole process of death and decay in the forest. Now, the bad trees will defend that item as hard as possible, from the attacks of the surviving ancients. Phodm must be fast, otherwise dragon reinforcements may arrive to aid the bad trees.
When he is close enough to the item to destroy it, than the bad trees use their last hope, they summon the Urghal (the ugly boss) to defend the item. However the boss is pure evil, and can not be controlled, killing the creature that Phodom met (thus killing his chances to know where the black hooded man was) and killing most nearby bad trees near it.
With the summoning of the monster and its unexpected reaction everything is in a chaos, with bad trees running for their life's and good trees trying to run and kill bad trees.
During this chaos, Phodom must kill Urghal to destroy the dragon heart item before it is too late, and before the monster takes any more answers with him.
When the item is destroyed, Phodom returns, a hero to the forest ... However the ancients do not have any gold nor items. Phodom is not worried, "Doing good and saving innocent life's is enough reward for a dragon slayer", he says to the ancient.
The ancients get very admired with his attitude, and so Phodom enters the story of the forest, gaining honor points, the friendship of powerful animals and a statue, raised by the ancients, to remember the eternal hero.

Soooooooooo......... How many cinematics? This is just only 1 optiona quest? Where this should start? What are the objectives?

witch chapitre please?

Chapter 4!

btw, i found it very difficult to collect item sets since only chapter 1 has the store box, and it is gone afterwards.

We are still searching for a nice extra item slot thing for my campaign.

Btw, I just checked folder where is my old versions/backup campaign and the folder is 8.28 GB big. There's from backup 1 to backup 117(117 is the latest backup).

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

EDIT EDIT EDIT
I added the story line ... it is a suggestion, you may want to make it different, however it gave me a lot of trouble =S

Soooooooooo......... How many cinematics? This is just only 1 optiona quest? Where this should start? What are the objectives?

This is a suggestion. it can be optional, but i can easily make it main.
Cinematics would be at least 3 or 4.
The objectives are still under discussion. But it would something like: Find the items for the spell, defend the ancients while they channel the spell, attack the bad trees after the summoning, to destroy the dragon heart before they call for the dragons help, kill the boss, and finally, return to the ancients to report success.

We can spice things even more. Per example, we could forced Phomdom to meet the merchant guy, which can sell one the summoning items for the ancients spell; or we can make the merchant reward Phdom with a needed item for the recipe.
There are many choices you can have.
I already though in a nice start, with text and all that stuff. I will write it here for you to evaluate it.

We are still searching for a nice extra item slot thing for my campaign.

Did you check the link i posted ?? Btw, did you see the movie bug ?

Start of story (main mode):
In the start, Phodom is confused (we can use the beggining cinematic, where phdom does not know why the black hooded man went there). After crossing the first bridge he goes up a little mountain which grants him nice vision of the map.
But he sees something wrong, he hides in the bushes.
He sees two massive armies, on of ancients (good trees) and one of infested (bad trees), each army with a champion. Phomdm is interested: "I wonder why this two armies are here .... this may be interesting better watch closely what happens ..."
Then he hears the two sides preparing for war:
Good side, the chapion speaks: My brethren ( = my brothers) we are here today to make our final stand! We must hold the line while our leaders prepare the defences for the spell !! If we fall, our good forest will be doomed to the fire and darkness of the dragons !! Remember, wars go and come but our soldiers are eternal !! Eternity awaits my brothers !! HOLD ON THE LINE !

Bad side, the infested champion speaks: "Today our enemy meets his end in the many pages of history !! Today our prophecy shall become real and today we shall rule this forest !!! Remember who dares wins ! Soon we shall all be feasting in the gold and power of our mighty dragon masters, just like our prophet, said !!! For Xvareon Attackk!!! "

The war starts, Phondom watches intrigued. The trees must be wrong, after all he man defeated the dragons many years ago. There is no such thing as dragons, the trees must be out dated ... Who is Xvareon !? or what is it ?

However, Phomdom's thinking is interruped, the bad trees defeat the ancients defences rapidly and soon he sees the good champion surrounded the little infested trees and by the evil champion comanding them.

Bad champion: "Fool of you to think you could ever defeat our might !. Look around you, your brothers are all dead, but we are generous, Join us, join the prophecy, and become one of us! If you don't like it, then die and join your fool brethren !"

Good champion: Never ! I shall never join you evil minions neither the stupid prophecy of your black hooded creature !!! If this forest needs a sacrifice, than it shall have one !"

The good champion starts defending himself from the evil guys, but he is lost, they are just too many.
Phodom, listenning to all this, is blinded by rage.
Phdom: "What !? Black hooded creature!? IS IT POSSIBLE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK HOODED MAN ???? ARRGHHHH this monsters !!! I shall end with them and with their miserable master !!! Hold on, I am comming ! you are not alone !"

Phondom says this and goes help the good champion. The ancient obviously knows something about the man he is hunting, and so he must protect him.

Phondom joins the fight, and together with the champion they kill all little minions, and start fihgting the evil champion, however, the bad champion is quite powerful, and so he kills the good champion.

Phondom: "Nooo ! my answers !!! "
Bad guy: "Fool human, you will share his fate, for trying to help him !"
Phondom:" ARRGGHHHH, tell me everything you know about the black hooded man before I crush you into dust ! (he is real angry, his answer were took away, just like his family)"
Bad guy: "HAHAHAHA, I see you know our prophet !, I will be greatly rewarded when I kill you !, die !!!"
Phdondom: " ARGGHH you monster, you and your prophet shall pay by what he did to my family"

And so they start fighting, and phondom nearly kills him, but when the bad guy is about to die:
Bad guy: "Arrghh I was defeated! how !"
Phomdom: " Talk now, or share the fate your prophet will soon have!"
Bad guy: " Nooo (he recognizes he is a dragon slayer), there are only one kind of humans that fight like you... dragon slayers !!! you must be one !! That is why i couldn't defeat you !"
Phdondom: "you couldn't defeat me, neither your prophet !! now start talking !"
Bad Guy: "Never !! soon i shall meet my brethren and warn the dragons about your comming, you will be dead !!! (uses a spell and vanishes)"
Phondom:" NOOOO arrrgghh !!! again !! That tree is my map to my avenge my family, I shall find it now matter the cost !"
Ancient (still alive, but very weak): "Ahhh it is so cold .... i see you fight most bravely young human ..."
Phomdom: "I did .. in times ... but now things are changed ... you fought bravely as well tree, and you are still alive ... tell me everything you know about their prophet !"
Ancient:" I am afraid I can't ... I already feel life going away ..."
Phondom: " Damn ! than i shall help you ... it is my duty as an honorable warrior ... however i am afraid i can only heal humans ... and you are a tree..."
Ancient: "It is ok, I died like I should, a hero to my people ... I just fill sorry i couldn't save my honor to die with it ..."
Phomdom: " You died in battle, that is honor !"
Ancient: "but i failed my mission ... i was supposed to hold on the lines and i failed... now my home land shall fall and the hope to restore the forest shall fall as well..."
Phomdom:" Mmmm Not as along as I live ! Tell me wat can I do to help you, and i shall !"
Ancient:" Mmm very well, i have no choice but to trust you human ... Go north (or other direction, where the good base is) and tell them what you saw ... Tell them the first defenses were destroyed, and they must be aware of an incoming assault ... do so ... it is my last wish ..."
Phondom:" So be it, I shall do your last wish, you can die in peace"
Ancient: "may Elune (or some God of the forest" watch over you and give you good luck ... about the hooded creature you are looking for ... talk to ... talk to ... "
Phondom:" to who !?"
Ancient: " talk to ... (he dies)"
Phondom:" DAMN !!! so close ... it is obvious i must help him if i ever want to know my next move to have my revenge !"

End of movie, player has new quest, find the base (per example)

EDIT EDIT EDIT
Bug found !!!
I assume you mean, blue key ?

 

[kingkrick]

yes i did tell him that bug

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Good, because there is another one: The black gate near that one can be destroyed. So I don't need a key to enter, I just blast it =)
You fix that bug as well.

 

[kingkrick]

i tell also that bug flame lol

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Did you check the link i posted ?? Btw, did you see the movie bug

Oh yea but I didn't watch them yet. I will watch them now! Oh yea I saw that video bug. I will check it out once again then.

I assume you mean, blue key ?

Yup, that's a bug. I tough I fixed it because someone mentioned about it before.

Good, because there is another one: The black gate near that one can be destroyed. So I don't need a key to enter, I just blast it =)

I think I have fixed that bug also! Strange. X_x

And about your story, Flame_Phoenix I will make something like that. But not now, I think it's more important to make this first beta version. Then I will add some nasty stuff more to campaign like this. Your idea is very interesting and I won't forget it. Thanks man!

Chapter 8 still needs 1-5 test time and it's finished. It only have currently 3 optional quest and some other things not much but I think it's more important to finish first basic main things and add more later.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Oh yea but I didn't watch them yet. I will watch them now! Oh yea I saw that video bug. I will check it out once again then.

Please comment the suggestions about the item system and the video. I can find more if you want.
Anyway, expect some e-mail with musics or teaching how to record your screen soon. (I will need more time, but i will do it!)

Yup, that's a bug. I tough I fixed it because someone mentioned about it before.

I think I have fixed that bug also! Strange. X_x

Damn you kingkrick for being faster than me !! =P

Still, i found a bug no1 reported so far !!! MUHAHAHAHA
It is a bug with the Archenon item. It adds the "hide" ability to fradz. However, in map 6, Fradz gets new levels and a new ability called "Lightning ball" or something. Problem is that is Fradz has the item, he won't be able to use the ability, because there is no space left for the icon of the ability !!
The Hide ability given by the item takes 1 square needed for Fradz abilities. So the player must choose between having the item or choosing the new skill, which is wrong. In my case, i just left the item behind.

And about your story, Flame_Phoenix I will make something like that. But not now, I think it's more important to make this first beta version. Then I will add some nasty stuff more to campaign like this. Your idea is very interesting and I won't forget it. Thanks man!

Well, if you intent to leave it for later, than it is Ok, although i recommend you pointing it somewhere b4 i forget it.
Also, How many maps will the campaign have ? 11 ?
Because the orb has 11 parts ... and so far there are only 8-9 maps with 1 part of the orb only =S

There is also something that is troubling my mind and that I must ask:
- Is there a chance in the world, that you make an image with names in the introduction of the campaign, with some of your best alpha testers ?
I believe i speak in name of all alpha testers when i say such thing would be better than a small movie in the end that most people will ignore =S

EDIT EDIT
Btw, i found this map, it is an expansion to the bag pack system i presented earlier.
It is better and it allows you to have "pocket shops". I think you will find this most interesting.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/spells/833/

 

[Aeroblyctos]

Skrakar, thanks for those links. But I'm not a jass type man and I don't undertand anything about jass. Also it seems like that if I would put that item thing to campaign it would need me to put all my over 300 items to that thing. Also I'm sure that it won't work when chapter changes. Well, thanks anyway for suggestion.

Please comment the suggestions about the item system and the video. I can find more if you want.
Anyway, expect some e-mail with musics or teaching how to record your screen soon. (I will need more time, but i will do it!)

About the item system look down. I hope to get soon some musics from you, thanks. Now I can take videos. I downloaded "FRAPS" program.

Still, i found a bug no1 reported so far !!! MUHAHAHAHA
It is a bug with the Archenon item. It adds the "hide" ability to fradz. However, in map 6, Fradz gets new levels and a new ability called "Lightning ball" or something. Problem is that is Fradz has the item, he won't be able to use the ability, because there is no space left for the icon of the ability !!

YAYAYA! Need to change that ability to something else. You might have a nice suggestion spell?

Also, How many maps will the campaign have ? 11 ?/quote]
Yup, 11 chapters. Last 8-11 chapters are not so big and I will do those in short time. Chapter 7 was the biggest and it took so much time but now it's finished.

Because the orb has 11 parts ... and so far there are only 8-9 maps with 1 part of the orb only =S

I'm not quite sure what do you mean. Can ya please explain some more?

- Is there a chance in the world, that you make an image with names in the introduction of the campaign, with some of your best alpha testers ?

Yeah, I will create a picture in the beginning about my best alpha testers and one will be you. Thanks man so far for everything.

I believe i speak in name of all alpha testers when i say such thing would be better than a small movie in the end that most people will ignore =S

It will be no a small movie, it's a separate so called "epilogue". It's like the prologue. Current prologue is shit one but I will remade it. I have to thank lot of people for helping me in the end. I will also post some pictures about me doing my project. Example, when I was in Vietnam at christam writing the story. What a feeling it was!

About the item system, I need a "perfect" one. Where is no bugs or anything. It's a huge job to import such a thing to campaign with 11 chapter. Also the system have to be made from HEROES. Because HEROES are the easiest way to save items with game cache. Sooooo... do you know a item system that works with heroes? Or do you know a item system which works in campaign?

I have not find any and people in Hive's chat said there's none. I'm thinking to put some boxes beginning of each chapter. What do you think about this?

 

[kingkrick]

yeah and dont forget me too man ^^

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

About the item system look down. I hope to get soon some musics from you, thanks. Now I can take videos. I downloaded "FRAPS" program.

Damn you !! I was planning to surprise you with a mini-tutorial with some tips and explaining the programs and techniques i use ... but you just couldn't wait ...
Anyway, my advice is remove FRAPS and download Camtasia. Camtasia is the best program you can ever find to record your screen and has many possible outputs for a single file.
After that your movie can be easily edited with Windows movie maker (like i did), and you can add sounds with soundForge 8.

Anyway, talk to me if you change your mind.
About the musics i am picking some now =P From a movie called Beowulf.

YAYAYA! Need to change that ability to something else. You might have a nice suggestion spell?

Yes I have a suggestion. Keeping in consideration this item is special for Fradz (Fradz is the 1st one to get it) you could add a passive ability to the item. This passive ability would give the wearer a 15% chance to double attack an enemy.
The double attack spell is very common and easy to import, you will find no trouble finding one in THW.
Now imagine the power of the combination, when Fradz uses his "Blade Dance" ability with this item ... nice hã ?

I'm not quite sure what do you mean. Can ya please explain some more?

I mean, the orb has 11 parts, but there are only 7 maps yet. So, if you find 1 piece per map, you will never be able to complete and finish the orb ... you should fix this =S

Yeah, I will create a picture in the beginning about my best alpha testers and one will be you. Thanks man so far for everything.

Thx a lot really. I do appreciate that.
You should also see other campaigns where I participate, such as the Pyritie campaign.
They are hosted projects of THW.

About the item system, I need a "perfect" one. Where is no bugs or anything. It's a huge job to import such a thing to campaign with 11 chapter. Also the system have to be made from HEROES. Because HEROES are the easiest way to save items with game cache. Sooooo... do you know a item system that works with heroes? Or do you know a item system which works in campaign?

I have not find any and people in Hive's chat said there's none. I'm thinking to put some boxes beginning of each chapter. What do you think about this?

I found it weird to believe such thing. The last system i suggested has no bugs, and works with game cache as far as i know, so in my opinion it would be perfect for your campaign.
However, about the boxes, that is a classic. I think we could improve. Why don't you give each hero an animal mate, with it's won personality ? The animal mate would travel with the heroes, being part of their feelings and being part of the story.

However, if you feel this is a "too much disney like solution" you can also create special shops called "banks".
Banks can save your gold and items for a small fee, this wouldn't be hard to do.
Banks can even increment your money by X every quest completed, or every level.

This are my suggestions for now.

Also, more bugs were discovered:
- In chapter 5, when Fradz and Phodom see a trebuchet that wants to destroy the castle "Lollox".
You see a black box talking to Fradz ... In my opinion, you should replace it by some poor peons. It would look nicer and it would make more sense (the trebuchet would not be fired alone ..)

- In chapter 6, the music only plays during the first 20-30 seconds, than it just ends and we can no longer hear it =S

- Again in cahpter 6, when I go to kill the king (with a belt that grants more 400 hp) Phodom gets damaged during the walk, like he is inside lava, for no reason (only Phndom is damaged, Fradz is not ) You should fix this, maybe to damage Fradz as well, or not to damage them (which would make sense, since the path is not lava).

- Btw, in chapter six, after opening the white gate and killing the demon lord and the hell pigs, i tried to use the item "hell rain" or something like that, and that item didn't work =S

 

[Aeroblyctos]

yeah and dont forget me too man ^^

No I won't!

Damn you !! I was planning to surprise you with a mini-tutorial with some tips and explaining the programs and techniques i use ... but you just couldn't wait ...
Anyway, my advice is remove FRAPS and download Camtasia. Camtasia is the best program you can ever find to record your screen and has many possible outputs for a single file.
After that your movie can be easily edited with Windows movie maker (like i did), and you can add sounds with soundForge 8.

Hehehe... Hahahaha... ! Never heard of Camtasia & SoundForge 8, I will try those soon.

bout the musics i am picking some now =P From a movie called Beowulf.

Okay, nice!

Yes I have a suggestion. Keeping in consideration this item is special for Fradz (Fradz is the 1st one to get it) you could add a passive ability to the item. This passive ability would give the wearer a 15% chance to double attack an enemy.

I have those magazines that gives abilities like that(critical strike, evasion, etc.). So I need something else. Sorry!

I mean, the orb has 11 parts, but there are only 7 maps yet. So, if you find 1 piece per map, you will never be able to complete and finish the orb ... you should fix this =S

So you mean, some chapters are missing those orbs? Okay I check it out if I have made a mistake.

You should also see other campaigns where I participate, such as the Pyritie campaign.

I tried that once. But I didn't liked at all. I tried it twice and both time I got fatal error. First time when I ate some pancake and second time when I played piano. =/

I found it weird to believe such thing. The last system i suggested has no bugs, and works with game cache as far as i know, so in my opinion it would be perfect for your campaign.
However, about the boxes, that is a classic. I think we could improve. Why don't you give each hero an animal mate, with it's won personality ? The animal mate would travel with the heroes, being part of their feelings and being part of the story.

Can ya give link again, please? I check it out again.

- In chapter 5, when Fradz and Phodom see a trebuchet that wants to destroy the castle "Lollox".
You see a black box talking to Fradz ... In my opinion, you should replace it by some poor peons. It would look nicer and it would make more sense (the trebuchet would not be fired alone ..)

Black box? X_X

- In chapter 6, the music only plays during the first 20-30 seconds, than it just ends and we can no longer hear it =S

I will fix it.

- Again in cahpter 6, when I go to kill the king (with a belt that grants more 400 hp) Phodom gets damaged during the walk, like he is inside lava, for no reason (only Phndom is damaged, Fradz is not ) You should fix this, maybe to damage Fradz as well, or not to damage them (which would make sense, since the path is not lava).

What king? Where is that?

- Btw, in chapter six, after opening the white gate and killing the demon lord and the hell pigs, i tried to use the item "hell rain" or something like that, and that item didn't work =S

I have some problems with those spell items. That's why I want people to make some for me. Maybe you can?

Sooooooo.... chapter 8 is almost finished. Tomorrow I will release next version if I have done some nice puzzles to chapter 6, 7 and 8.

 

[Flame_Phoenix]

Okay, nice!

Already sent, them, plz comment your opinion.

I have those magazines that gives abilities like that(critical strike, evasion, etc.). So I need something else. Sorry!

I didn't see any "double attack magazine". Anyway, than you can make it a knockback spell, for example.

I tried that once. But I didn't liked at all. I tried it twice and both time I got fatal error. First time when I ate some pancake and second time when I played piano. =/

Those errors are long time fixed as far as i know. Still if you experienced them you should talk to Pyritie and post something in the bugs forum.

Can ya give link again, please? I check it out again.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/resources_new/spells/833/

Black box? X_X

Something (which is nothing) is just talking to Fradz .. run the cinematic to see my point...

What king? Where is that?

I forget the name of the king (something like xor, not sure)
He is on the left side of the maze in level 6.

I have some problems with those spell items. That's why I want people to make some for me. Maybe you can?

Yes I can. Because they only need to have 1 ability, it's easy, because it is for single player and can0t use vJass, it's even easier.
Just tell me what I have to do, and it shall be done (if i can lol)

Btw, what about all my other suggestions ?
Comments plz =P

Btw, did I mention i can edit any music i want ?? Like cut, paste, and add some minor special effects (fades, per example) ??

 

[kyo_fight]

how can I skip the cinematic?