[Campaign] Tales of Silventria Mechanics Thread

[Colonel Aster]

Hey did you guys work out the abilities yet?

 

[Razorfang]

we're working on it, sit tight

 

[Lord Siler]

This stuff takes lots of time, and I've been somewhat busy with things lately, so it may not be finished as fast as planned

 

[Colonel Aster]

Taking too damn long, were gonna need to have a talk about this. let's have a meeting sometime Monday

 

[Lord Aiden]

 

[Colonel Aster]

lol, nice one

 

[ArchDuke]

I seriously wonder what it feels like to be mind controlled by yuri, it might even be what some would call enjoyable

 

[Colonel Aster]

wtf???, where did this come from?

 

[Lord Aiden]

I seriously wonder what it feels like to be mind controlled by yuri, it might even be what some would call enjoyable

You're seriously weird...

 

[ArchDuke]

):

 

[Colonel Aster]

anyway I was not able to get much done this week--too much things on my hands. but regarding the name I would suggest using something like apha its very suitable and simple, Siler also said he liked the idea

 

[Razorfang]

u know i dont get it, what the point of having an elite version of an already elite unit, it kinda of begs the question of why is there an elite unit in the first place if you want yet another 'better' version of it

 

[Colonel Aster]

This variation only appears in a few missions where it serves as a bodyguard to important figures, the point is that zephyrs are not that elite of a unit, 1080hp 38-48 attack with 1.1 cooldown and resistant armor its like an upgraded knight which can resist spells and nothing more, but you need a real strong unit to make sure the battle is at the minimum challenging, 2 zephyr or 3 zephyrs will not do that

 

[Razorfang]

but 2 paladins will

 

[Colonel Aster]

I just dont have time to argue about this
much easier to make one super elite unit to serve as bodyguard to important units rather than making a whole bunch of heroes, its just simple, practical, and mor effecient this way

 

[Lord Siler]

Reasons why we need an “elite version of an already elite unit”

Previously we had Zephyrs renamed to things such as “Falcos the merciless” and “Davlin the mighty” and given more hp as well as abilities to serve as bodyguards to certain heroes in missions. Creating these names and adding various abilities, etc. gets tiresome and pointless if done every time a hero needs a few guards except for special circumstances, so instead we’re creating a unit that will serve as a bodyguard to all these units, a special much stronger unit that resembles a zephyr. We’re calling this unit alpha or a better name if we come up with one. Think about it this way, let’s say you have a group of elite soldiers, the top 5% or 10% will likely be especially skilled and much stronger than the rest, its like a class of students, there are those that are better than the rest and just stand out. For Zephyrs those 10% are called alphas.

In other words an Alpha is an especially strong and skilled Zephyr.

 

[Colonel Aster]

Excellent reasoning, gave you some rep just now

 

[Lord Siler]

After several hours of testing we've finally got it.

The unit will be called "Lion Heart"

so far the stats are

1580HP

58-76 damage

1.20 second cooldown

Heavy armor

6 armor

Abilities:

Resistant Skin

Arcane Resistance - Reduces damage from magic and spells by 25%

Critical strike - 25% chance to do 3 times the damage

Defensive Stance - 35% chance to reduce an attack by 60 damage. Attacks cannot be reduced below 3 damage.

 

[Razorfang]

another re-iteration of the now defunct crusader unit??

 

[Colonel Aster]

Crusader was like a sub-boss type unit that was excellent against non-hero units and buildings but was essentially cannon fodder against air units

this is good against both air and ground, but not so much so against buildings, it's meant to defend against other units not attack bases with, besides this was all explained

this is basically the "elite zephyr"

the defensive stance ability is really good, a Lion Heart was able to defeat 3 taurens (3 on 1) with level 2 ungrades after we gave it this ability

 

[Razorfang]

3 taurens?
maybe a little bit too op?

 

[Colonel Aster]

Dont worry unlike the crusader you won't be seeing a great deal of these, infact the only time they'll be around is when they're guarding something or someone

 

[Lord Aiden]

Should've called this the "mauler" cause this thing sounds like it will maul through anything

 

[Colonel Aster]

You checked out the file I send you Aiden ?

 

[Lord Aiden]

Ye, awesome unit!

 

[Colonel Aster]

Thank @Lord Siler, this turned out to be better than expected, I originally envisioned just a stronger zephyr unit

 

[Lord Siler]

Thanks for all the support

 

[Lord Aiden]

np man you deserve it, you created another great unit, pad yourself on the back!

 

[Rem]

i think you outdid yourself here, this unit will take out a spectral knight or a rock titan in a 1 on 1 =)
and that means a lot in this campaign

 

[Lord Aiden]

hey siler why the low armor?

 

[Lord Siler]

np man you deserve it, you created another great unit, pad yourself on the back!

Thanks

i think you outdid yourself here, this unit will take out a spectral knight or a rock titan in a 1 on 1 =)
and that means a lot in this campaign

Thank you, it's a unit you will see very rarely, that's why its so strong, spectral knight and rock titans will appear much more frequently, and also in greater numbers

hey siler why the low armor?

It's supposed to be a Zephyr that's the best in his group or whatever, as such the unit has all same armor, weapons, etc. as the regular Zephyr so the armor value doesn't change, but he is stronger hence the increased hp and stronger attack also he is much more skilled hence the defensive stance and critical strike abilities

 

[Colonel Aster]

So the alpha unit will be the elite unit of Milrein or other forces?

 

[Lord Siler]

Yes, essentially, whatever we as a group will decided

 

[Blake8]

Should've called this unit "invincible" lol

 

[Colonel Aster]

It's never too late to change the name

 

[Blake8]

I was only joking, Lion Heart is like a perfect name for this sort of unit

 

[Lord Siler]

These things are perfect bodyguards, especially in the mission where you play as the rebels and have to attack a Milrein base where an eclypic orb is housed, these can be used as the special protection unit that are inside the compound

 

[Colonel Aster]

Just never have the player face off with more than 2 of these at once, or you're screwed....

 

[Lord Siler]

These aren't crusaders, they don't just kill you, they're more like tanks with strong attacks and defenses

 

[Lord Aiden]

If you're skilled enough you should be able to destroy one of those with a skilled hero, the unit is strong but it's not exactly like a non - hero archimonde walking around, 1580hp is nothing, I've seen boss units with over 10,000 hp in campaigns, if you wanna see colossal amount of hp on bosses just play the chosen ones

 

[Lord Siler]

You're thinking wrong, you think the function of this unit is to be a boss, in other words that you face the unit in a one on one with your hero, but this is completely untrue. In all likelyhood you will likely face off with a hero and 2 Lion Hearts guarding it along with some other units with a good chunk of your army along with your hero. In other words its your army against the enemy's army, and these units are his bodyguards. This is not meant as a boss unit at all.

 

[Lord Siler]

What I mean is most likely you'll see them in a situation similar to this

 

[Lord Aiden]

why is the air attack so weak

 

[Lord Siler]

Sorry, I forgot to adjust that, there are a few things I still need to tweak before the unit is "finalized" btw

 

[Lord Aiden]

So this will never be a boss unit?

 

[Lord Siler]

If you're asking me whether you will face one as a boss my answer is no, again this unit is basically a guard, to important heroes as well as for important items or locations (entrances to places, etc.)

 

[Lord Aiden]

i see

 

[Lord Siler]

Remember the high-hill mission we were planning?

 

[Lord Aiden]

ye, what about it?

 

[Lord Siler]

Well you remember how it was supposed to have an optional quest to retrieve a specific artifact held by a Vernesian Archmage, in order to retrieve this you would have to fight through the Milrein forces occupying the center of the map to the small Vernesian outpost to the northeast, then destroy the guards, get inside and fight the archmage, in this case the archmage, well Lion Hearts would be guards to that archmage in order to make the battle more challenging...