Shadows of Hatred v2.3.0 (Patch 1.30)

[Sclammerz]

This took me a while uploading.

Edit:

Common Questions:

1. Can I play this on a patch lower than 1.30? How about higher?

Answer:

1.32 a.k.a reforged - definitely no. Cause no custom campaigns!!
1.31 - you can but it may or may not break some things.
1.30 - recommended patch so yes.
1.29 - I cannot say. Maybe?
1.28 below - I think not.

2. Where can I download the 1.30 patch?

Ans: You can download it here, it requires CD keys though.

Or if you want 1.31 cause you like risks it's here.

Edit 2: Attached the 1.4 version of the campaign, compatible with older patches. (Added the older version in the resource above)

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Sclammerz you beautiful human! Now then... I shall play with a smile on my face XD

 

[Wasabee]

I can't wait to try these.

 

[Sclammerz]

Hey, guys. I updated the campaign for I forgot to hide the campaign buttons. My bad.

 

[Rence Kristoff]

Playing it as soon as download is over

 

[Chaosy]

I'll just read the dialogue of the final chapters and be on my way.
I have no interest of playing the chapters all over again

 

[elmaster200]

Damn it, man, it took longer than i thought

 

[MogulKahn]

Damn, can't play it right now, finnals are killing me...

 

[KingLich]

Great campaign

Great campaign overall. I have but one complaint... the difficulty

The first two missions were ok, had little trouble doing them. But from the third onwards the constant attacking makes the game too hard, if not impossible (I used cheats :S)

I suggest some tweaks:
- Lower the frequency of the attacks (I don't want to spoil anything so I'm saying this overall, on every siege mission)
- All orcs deal ridiculous damage with their chaos type, maybe you could change types for most of them, because they whoop my tough units like if they were paper.

 

[cleavinghammer]

General:
* English needs help.
* Can't say I like Maiev's model.
* Vengeance Aura's tooltip still reads Endurance (when in Avatar mode).

Prologue:
* When the night elves are dead, Kael and Vasj don't leave with their troops, and the cage stays where it is. Also, there's an invisible unit with curse and poison buffs.
* You should remove the cage (or at least use another model) after the night elves are defeated, having Illidan look at himself in a cage is distracting.
* Illidan's line should be "fare" instead of "fret".

First level:
* Opening cinematic isn't immediately skippable, it only skips after the first camera change.
* Maiev's gate is killed instead of opened.
* Watchers in perspective cages: Not sure what you mean here.
* The tall prison bars on southern walls get in the way of the camera (for example, the short passage just before the first blademaster).

Second level:
* Orc bases should harvest 1 gold at a time.

Interlude:
* The warlock and grunt that bring news don't appear.

Third level:
* There's a neutral Doom Guard near the purple base that was killed by Stampede, push it further back.
* Warlord's Avatar is the dwarf one ("For Khaz Modan!" instead of the Howl of Terror sound).
* Ally and enemy attack waves have a tendency to randomly turn around instead of attacking.

 

[Chaosy]

* English needs help.

Do this apply for all chapters? Because I fixed the language in the first 7-8 maps or something. Unless he edited the lines after that of course.

 

[Warseeker]

- When you end a chapter/map with Maiev's Vengeance still active,
it is possible on the next map she will still be on Vengeance form
until the duration expires.

How this can be possible unless you're using some script game store which include all current data cache.

 

[cleavinghammer]

^^ Yes. It's understandable, mind you, so it's not high priority.

Third level:
* The succubi south of the base can see units coming from too far off (even on the cliff), sometimes joining in orc attacks.
* The brown and yellow bases are too close to each other, attacking one is sure to get the other almost immediately. They also tend to send waves at the same time.
* The pig farm near the green base entrance is floating in the air.

Second interlude:
* When the WII music starts, it plays over the background music instead of replacing it.

 

[Atshiel]

Despite that the other guys said it all i'll tell something, the second spell of Maiev, Vengeful Attack, i didn't have it activated and a vengeful spirit spawned when she killed an orc, thought i think that shouldn't happen...

 

[Sclammerz]

Great campaign overall. I have but one complaint... the difficulty

The first two missions were ok, had little trouble doing them. But from the third onwards the constant attacking makes the game too hard, if not impossible (I used cheats :S)

I suggest some tweaks:
- Lower the frequency of the attacks (I don't want to spoil anything so I'm saying this overall, on every siege mission)
- All orcs deal ridiculous damage with their chaos type, maybe you could change types for most of them, because they whoop my tough units like if they were paper.

Thanks. I don't find chapter hard though, I strike fast and destroy the brown base first. They are Fel Orcs so they will stay with chaos damage.

General:
* English needs help.
* Can't say I like Maiev's model.
* Vengeance Aura's tooltip still reads Endurance (when in Avatar mode).

Prologue:
* When the night elves are dead, Kael and Vasj don't leave with their troops, and the cage stays where it is. Also, there's an invisible unit with curse and poison buffs.
* You should remove the cage (or at least use another model) after the night elves are defeated, having Illidan look at himself in a cage is distracting.
* Illidan's line should be "fare" instead of "fret".

First level:
* Opening cinematic isn't immediately skippable, it only skips after the first camera change.
* Maiev's gate is killed instead of opened.
* Watchers in perspective cages: Not sure what you mean here.
* The tall prison bars on southern walls get in the way of the camera (for example, the short passage just before the first blademaster).

Second level:
* Orc bases should harvest 1 gold at a time.

Interlude:
* The warlock and grunt that bring news don't appear.

Third level:
* There's a neutral Doom Guard near the purple base that was killed by Stampede, push it further back.
* Warlord's Avatar is the dwarf one ("For Khaz Modan!" instead of the Howl of Terror sound).
* Ally and enemy attack waves have a tendency to randomly turn around instead of attacking.

Third level:
* The succubi south of the base can see units coming from too far off (even on the cliff), sometimes joining in orc attacks.
* The brown and yellow bases are too close to each other, attacking one is sure to get the other almost immediately. They also tend to send waves at the same time.
* The pig farm near the green base entrance is floating in the air.

Second interlude:
* When the WII music starts, it plays over the background music instead of replacing it.

Thanks. I'm gonna fix these.

Do this apply for all chapters? Because I fixed the language in the first 7-8 maps or something. Unless he edited the lines after that of course.
Today 03:40 AM

To be exact almost 12 chapters. Also didn't touch the dialogues as you edited them last time.

Despite that the other guys said it all i'll tell something, the second spell of Maiev, Vengeful Attack, i didn't have it activated and a vengeful spirit spawned when she killed an orc, thought i think that shouldn't happen...

Yes, it does happen. I really don't know why.

 

[cleavinghammer]

* Concerning the difficulty: I think the main problem is that bases often attack at the same time (the second level has the same problem as the third: the red and gray bases are too close to each other, and send out waves at the same time), otherwise they can be dealt with.
* I saw the Vengeful Spirit bug as well.
* Maiev's Judgement spell seems to do more damage than the tooltip says.

 

[MogulKahn]

Still haven't really played it, just tried first map, but I have to ask one question. What is with your obsession to use that absolutely awful Maiev model, while Blizzard made perfect model? I see, you even wasted your time on changing the head... I just can't get it...
Head looks like it is made out of carton.. Just awful.. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MAeTvqYsl...s1600/67711749742_Danbo_BoxBoy_Wallpapers.jpg

 

[Atshiel]

Guess who stayed too late to finish this?:v
Congratulations Sclammerz, you did it very well, i really like it, hope you make another campaign

 

[Sclammerz]

* Concerning the difficulty: I think the main problem is that bases often attack at the same time (the second level has the same problem as the third: the red and gray bases are too close to each other, and send out waves at the same time), otherwise they can be dealt with.
* I saw the Vengeful Spirit bug as well.
* Maiev's Judgement spell seems to do more damage than the tooltip says.

I will try make the AI not to attack at the same time then.
I don't know what's with that spell though. If someone know how to fix that I'll be glad to.
About Maiev's spell yes it does do more damage to especially to unit's with medium armor since the damage type of that spell is normal.

Still haven't really played it, just tried first map, but I have to ask one question. What is with your obsession to use that absolutely awful Maiev model, while Blizzard made perfect model? I see, you even wasted your time on changing the head... I just can't get it...
Head looks like it is made out of carton.. Just awful..

Hmm. Yes, perhaps I could turn it back to original.

Guess who stayed too late to finish this?:v
Congratulations Sclammerz, you did it very well, i really like it, hope you make another campaign

Thanks.

 

[Sunreaver]

Contact 67Chrome for the use of Vashj skin. It is specially made for his contest. I got his permission to use it.
Nice campaign i am at chapter 5 now

 

[Sclammerz]

Contact 67Chrome for the use of Vashj skin. It is specially made for his contest. I got his permission to use it.
Nice campaign i am at chapter 5 now

I'm currently using HIS Lady Vashj skin already.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Fourth level (Maiev):
* If you fight the first Dungeon Keeper, a Fire Revenant from the south tries to join in. Also, the Keepers should disappear or teleport away instead of dying when you get the riddle right.
* Maiev can untrasform during the ending cutscene.

Fourth level (Akama):
* If Anna Kondra isn't killed during the mission, all her lines play during the ending cutscene, including threats, death, and Akama confirming the kill.
* Chain Lightning is still hotkey C (personlly, I prefer non-custom spells to keep their hotkeys).
* Sea Essence cooldown is invisible.

 

[Sclammerz]

Fourth level (Maiev):
* If you fight the first Dungeon Keeper, a Fire Revenant from the south tries to join in. Also, the Keepers should disappear or teleport away instead of dying when you get the riddle right.
* Maiev can untrasform during the ending cutscene.

*I will fix these. Hmm. teleport, make more sense. I could consider this.

Fourth level (Akama):
* If Anna Kondra isn't killed during the mission, all her lines play during the ending cutscene, including threats, death, and Akama confirming the kill.
* Chain Lightning is still hotkey C (personlly, I prefer non-custom spells to keep their hotkeys).
* Sea Essence cooldown is invisible.

*What? I must look for this then.
* I kept that one though.
* I don't know why it doesn't show since it's based item was Thunderlizard diamond.

Thanks. I'll try to look up more feedback before updating this.

 

[cleavinghammer]

One I just noticed: Salamanders either don't have a projectile or there's something messed up with the lightning attack.

Fifth level:
* Again, both bases attacking at once.
* Took out the northern yellow base (while I wasn't watching, my allies had taken out the south base), but the guards were invulnerable and didn't react to my units. You should make the northern base more isolated (unless it sends attack waves, I didn't see any).
* I almost missed the sidequest, you should put the questgiver closer to the orb.
* Okay, the last part is just horrible. Army gone for no reason, ridiculously tiny supply and money, and the draenei casters get stuck behind their own building. And why didn't the general cast that when he still had his army in the first place?!

 

[Sclammerz]

One I just noticed: Salamanders either don't have a projectile or there's something messed up with the lightning attack.

Fifth level:
* Again, both bases attacking at once.
* Took out the northern yellow base (while I wasn't watching, my allies had taken out the south base), but the guards were invulnerable and didn't react to my units. You should make the northern base more isolated (unless it sends attack waves, I didn't see any).
* I almost missed the sidequest, you should put the questgiver closer to the orb.
* Okay, the last part is just horrible. Army gone for no reason, ridiculously tiny supply and money, and the draenei casters get stuck behind their own building. And why didn't the general cast that when he still had his army in the first place?!

Yes, there is something quite wrong with their projectile for some reasons. I'll try to figure it out.
Yes, they should send some forces.
I'll see to it.
He have no time to do it and was held captive.

 

[cleavinghammer]

As in, why didn't he teleport his entire army to the city.

Maiev's Avatar uses the Spirit of Vengeance voice, not the Avatar.
When multiple Priestesses are selected, they all cast the shield spell at the same time.

Sixth level:
* As far as I can tell, yellow only attacks you, green only attacks blue. The other two only attacked each other with five minutes left to go. Purple sent some units south through my base at one point, but don't seem to have helped defend me.
* Tooltip: Hippogryph roost says it builds Watchers. Far Seer, Anchorite and Shaman tooltips have the wrong spells.
* I reloaded a game to find two moon wells floating in the air (the water pools were on the ground). I suspect this is a glitch from the Judgement spell.
* I'd taken out the yellow base before the time limit (that got a response from the absent general), yet a few minutes later there was a yellow attack wave on my base.
* Some of the dialogues are kinda iffy. "It is you who etc." in particular.

 

[Sclammerz]

As in, why didn't he teleport his entire army to the city.

Maiev's Avatar uses the Spirit of Vengeance voice, not the Avatar.

Sixth level:
* As far as I can tell, yellow only attacks you, green only attacks blue. The other two only attacked each other with five minutes left to go. Purple sent some units south through my base at one point, but don't seem to have helped defend me.
* Tooltip: Hippogryph roost says it builds Watchers. Far Seer, Anchorite and Shaman tooltips have the wrong spells.
* I reloaded a game to find two moon wells floating in the air (the water pools were on the ground). I suspect this is a glitch from the Judgement spell.
* I'd taken out the yellow base before the time limit (that got a response from the absent general), yet a few minutes later there was a yellow attack wave on my base).

Because he intended to delay Illidan not to escape or whatnot. Also time wasn't on his mind on that situation. He was busy to battle Illidan's forces until his forces lose and he was captured.

Yes.
I'll fix them.
Moon wells floating? Hmm. can't do much on this.
To fix this problem, also for people who don't want to defend for 30 minutes (just wan to destroy) an alternative ending might do the trick.
Iffy? I contacted Chaosy and try to resolve these kind of things since can't do it myself.

 

[Rence Kristoff]

Are there different endings for the Defense of Shat'trah?

 

[cleavinghammer]

When multiple Priestesses are selected, they all cast the shield spell at the same time.

Interlude: The blood elf is labeled "Lady Liadrin" in his last responses.

 

[MogulKahn]

Map is not in the "Maps" section?

 

[Sclammerz]

Are there different endings for the Defense of Shat'trah?

Not yet.

When multiple Priestesses are selected, they all cast the shield spell at the same time.

Interlude: The blood elf is labeled "Lady Liadrin" in his last responses.

Hmm. I forgot to change them.

Map is not in the "Maps" section?

Still pending.

 

[Maizon]

Finally it's released!

 

[Shar Dundred]

So, finally released AND finished after one and a half year development?

You've done well and can be proud of yourself & your creation!

 

[cleavinghammer]

Seventh level:
* You guessed it, simultaneous attack waves.
* Maiev's avatar apparently costs 5 food.
* So is there any way to take out the generator other than while under fire from the towers? I was half expecting a stealth mission, what with the side gates (can those be opened?).
* during the generator cutscene, channeling spells (monsoon, starfall etc.) are interrupted.
* Illidan is reachable by air, neutral and killable before his gates are opened. This doesn't prevent the end cutscene from happening with an invisible Illidan.
* You should have a trigger to make the keyholders move back to their start positions if there are no enemies around, Vashj ended up stranded alone in a corridor, making her much easier to kill.

Eight level:
* Day/night cycle still present.
* During the Teron fight, the creeps to the north try to join in.
* I don't like teleporting all units in for the boss fights, most get killed off far too quickly.
* During the final cutscene, Akama's text reads "fill" instead of "bless".

 

[Sclammerz]

So, finally released AND finished after one and a half year development?

You've done well and can be proud of yourself & your creation!

Not entirely one and a half year development it was stopped for months so. Only about a year of development I guess. Thank you.

Seventh level:
* You guessed it, simultaneous attack waves.
* Maiev's avatar apparently costs 5 food.
* So is there any way to take out the generator other than while under fire from the towers? I was half expecting a stealth mission, what with the side gates (can those be opened?).
* during the generator cutscene, channeling spells (monsoon, starfall etc.) are interrupted.
* Illidan is reachable by air, neutral and killable before his gates are opened. This doesn't prevent the end cutscene from happening with an invisible Illidan.
* You should have a trigger to make the keyholders move back to their start positions if there are no enemies around, Vashj ended up stranded alone in a corridor, making her much easier to kill.

Eight level:
* Day/night cycle still present.
* During the Teron fight, the creeps to the north try to join in.
* I don't like teleporting all units in for the boss fights, most get killed off far too quickly.
* During the final cutscene, Akama's text reads "fill" instead of "bless".

I will reduced the difficulty of all AI of all chapters.
Yes, I was thinking about a stealth mission first but I realized I changed the Warden's spell "Conceal" and trash the idea. Originally the gates were opened and you can send forces from those sides but I realized it would be an easy kill to obtain the keys so I closed them.
I'll fix those things.

 

[Marcello Lippi]

Hi, i just want to ask a sclammerz, how do you imagine to survive 10 minutes with barely 7-8 wariors and with that huge and massive attacks from kargath, and other units?
I am talking about 5th mission the last quest, it's really immposible, i came once to 1 minute and that's it, it's to hard man, you should reduce level of their attack or let us made at least 50 food instead of 30.

Akama's mission in 4th chapter is hard too, they attacked me like 4 heroes with units in a minute, i just had a lucky that i survived that, because my ally came to me when i beat them...
It is great campaign until now, i am stuck on this chapter trying to survive and not using cheats, but it is too heavy.

P.S. Also i saw a bug in first interlude, orc and warlock while speaking i can' see them
Great work and hope that you will make more of the campaigns.

 

[Sclammerz]

Hi, i just want to ask a sclammerz, how do you imagine to survive 10 minutes with barely 7-8 wariors and with that huge and massive attacks from kargath, and other units?
I am talking about 5th mission the last quest, it's really immposible, i came once to 1 minute and that's it, it's to hard man, you should reduce level of their attack or let us made at least 50 food instead of 30.

Akama's mission in 4th chapter is hard too, they attacked me like 4 heroes with units in a minute, i just had a lucky that i survived that, because my ally came to me when i beat them...
It is great campaign until now, i am stuck on this chapter trying to survive and not using cheats, but it is too heavy.

P.S. Also i saw a bug in first interlude, orc and warlock while speaking i can' see them
Great work and hope that you will make more of the campaigns.

Hmm. I will try to reduced the difficulty on the next update. I don't really find it hard on the Chapter 5 though. I just train Far seer and spam their healing wave as Akama tanks them. Thank you.

 

[Atshiel]

You can also destroy the generator with aerial units, i did that, while the forces of Akama and The Draenei were battling, i sent aerial units to destroy the generator.

 

[Sclammerz]

You can also destroy the generator with aerial units, i did that, while the forces of Akama and The Draenei were battling, i sent aerial units to destroy the generator.

My usual tactic.

Also Campaign Updated. See changes in change log.

 

[Rence Kristoff]

I still don't know how to unlock March of Destruction
nice updates,

 

[cleavinghammer]

Epilogue: I... I really don't get the point of this one. Fetch quests for no reason, quest givers that don't react when you finish the quests... why? Is this how the WoW version ends?

Anyway, finished the campaign. Overall, it's excellent, especially the terrains. Only things I think there should have been different are more music (during the game, not just the cutcenes) and a level where you control blood elf forces.

 

[LeKaiser]

Good campaign, I would even say that it can be as good as tomoraider campaigns, only a few small details that I think should be improved to make the campaign better, with respect to the races

In the night elves did not taste much change in some units like the battle maiden (stats) and perhaps use a different model, in my opinion were better in the beta, in the case of beasts I did not like very much because if not are the giants of the mountains because the beasts?

Old draenei, perhaps the best in my opinion I have nothing to criticize

Shat`thar draenei, there are many repeat units in this race, archers, mages and vindicator curiously drawn from the elves do not know if there are many models of draenei but it would be good idea to change some of these units as a model.

Naga, I liked the new models, nothing to criticize

on the side of the cinematics, nothing critical exept a small thing,when a cinematic begins would be a good idea that begins with the black screen (like most campaigns warcraft),well,that's my opinion

4/5

PD:if there will be an update how something like 2.0 or 2.1 would be great

 

[Aether]

I don't know if someone mentions this already but sometimes if the neutrals are sleeping. I can manage get pass them without battling them.

 

[Sclammerz]

Epilogue: I... I really don't get the point of this one. Fetch quests for no reason, quest givers that don't react when you finish the quests... why? Is this how the WoW version ends?

Anyway, finished the campaign. Overall, it's excellent, especially the terrains. Only things I think there should have been different are more music (during the game, not just the cutcenes) and a level where you control blood elf forces.

Yes, they don't make much sense. Quests were present for gameplay purposes. I was thinking there was no point on making quest rewards since it's the end. Perhaps, abolish the optional quests? Well, this is my own ending, WoW don't end like that. lol

Thank you. I have once a plan to import several music but I think it was unnecessary since in game music seems fine.

Good campaign, I would even say that it can be as good as tomoraider campaigns, only a few small details that I think should be improved to make the campaign better, with respect to the races

In the night elves did not taste much change in some units like the maiden battle (stats) and perhaps use a different model, in my opinion were better in the beta, in the case of beasts I did not like very much because if not are the giants of the mountains because the beasts?

Old draenei, perhaps the best in my opinion I have nothing to criticize

Shat`thar draenei, there are many repeat units in this race, archers, mages and vindicator curiously drawn from the elves do not know if there are many models of draenei but it would be good idea to change some of these units as a model.

Naga, I liked the new models, nothing to criticize

on the side of the cinematics, nothing critical exept a small thing, when a serious cinematics good idea that begins with the black screen (like most campaigns warcraft),well,that's my opinion

4/5

PD:if there will be an update how something like 2.0 or 2.1 would be great

Thank you. Yeah, I know the draenei have repeated units, but these are the only available models/skins I could find and I think they are fine.

I don't know if someone mentions this already but sometimes if the neutrals are sleeping. I can manage get pass them without battling them.

I'll check this out.

 

[Antares.old]

Finally *w*

 

[Shar Dundred]

@Sclammy: There is a trigger action, that disables creeps
from sleeping.
Might be a good idea using it for every chapter.

 

[Sclammerz]

@Sclammy: There is a trigger action, that disables creeps
from sleeping.
Might be a good idea using it for every chapter.

Yes, thanks.

 

[MogulKahn]

Went through half of the first mission, and stopped. Why? Because, no offense, but this campaign needs a lot of more work.
First, that W summoning working even if it isn't activated is just game braking. When I read it here, I thought that it isn't that big of a deal (low chance to get it), but after every group of enemies, I got around 2-4 spirits. That is just a lot. Fix it, or just simply replace it with another spell.
Second, that intro cinematic is, I hate to say it, but, it is bad. Story is somehow naive. If I had no idea about Burning Crusade lore, I would have no idea what is going on there and why.
And lastly, I don't like that you just overwhelm us with new units. In WC3 campaigns it doesn't work that way. We are introduced with units gradually. Every mission you introduce new unit, sometimes even making quest around it. I am always excited to see what unit am I going to get next. What spells it has. While here, you showed us half of the tech-tree in the first 5 minutes of the gameplay.
And I have to add that you need to work around balance. That Warlock broken draenei is just plain broken (huehehuehehe):
Q - DMG + stun
W - 150 AoE DMG
E - summon WITH Mana Burn (it also deals DMG)
This is simply nuts. You can't give to unit casters that much DMG. Also summons on casters are bad. You are getting 2 in 1, pretty much. And it involves no risk. You can summon another one.
Also not big fan of Healing Wave on unit casters. Spell is just too good to have it on normal unit..

Don't get me wrong, this campaign has a lot of potential. First campaign after tomorider's that I felt that WC3 vibe in it. Don't abandon it, you just need to remember that tomorider worked for years on his campaigns, and even now, some things are still not perfect!

 

[cleavinghammer]

Play the later missions, those broken spells are often the key to victory.