Round Table of Arkain

[Razorfang]

shar attending halloween carnivals? lol

 

[ArchDuke]

Wait, Claire was mind controlled right? So giving her that gift...Kasrkin I may just have to replay that mission

 

[Championfighter25]

Wait, Claire was mind controlled right? So giving her that gift...Kasrkin I may just have to replay that mission

It is strongly hinted, but not exactly confirmed in the short story ''diary of a soldier'' that she is mind controlled. Better replay the chapter anyway. I will do the same.

 

[King Tidus]

@Azarus1 sounds like a good call, i'll be sure to replay those missions, but i find them extremely hard at times and sometimes result to whosyourdaddy, but only because Shar made some missions so damn 'challenging'

its fun, but only if you got the time for it, also @Kasrkin i admire your skills

@Razorfang ye you guessed it, it was a halloween carnival/fare thing

 

[ArchDuke]

Ye it is time consuming, especially maps like Lord of Shadow, but that's how our tyrant's work is, also Kasrkin didn;t get that good by just sitting around, practice makes perfect

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Ye it is time consuming, especially maps like Lord of Shadow, but that's how our tyrant's work is, also Kasrkin didn;t get that good by just sitting around, practice makes perfect

True. Kasrkin was trained is a special facility where only 1 out of 10 students survives the tests.

 

[Kasrkin]

Ye it is time consuming, especially maps like Lord of Shadow, but that's how our tyrant's work is, also Kasrkin didn;t get that good by just sitting around, practice makes perfect

Lots and lots of rag-- practice yes. It's certainly been interesting over the years.

 

[Boriss]

Shaaar, are you working on maps? Or still on a break?

 

[Shar Dundred]

Shaaar, are you working on maps?

Yes.

 

[ArchDuke]

Can't wait to beat up van durce

 

[LISBOAH]

Can't wait to beat up van durce

EVERYONE is expecting that moment.
That moment will be Pure Catharsis!

 

[Shar Dundred]

About that:
I have planned out some lil nasty powers for van Durce exclusively for that showdown.
You will love to hate it. >=)

On other news:
Like the last chapters, Chapter Ten will, at some time, get its teaser cinematic.
Stay tuned!

 

[LISBOAH]

About that:
I have planned out some lil nasty powers for van Durce exclusively for that showdown.
You will love to hate it. >=)

We love to hate van Durce already. But you seem to intend to make our hatred grow to infinity...and beyond!

On other news:
Like the last chapters, Chapter Ten will, at some time, get its teaser cinematic.
Stay tuned!

I will wait for it eagerly.

 

[Ahman]

What happens if I spare Aaron chapter 8 B? will he make an appearance later on? Also, I recieved a gem of true sight from an orc hero in the same chapter, is it just for lols or can be used later on for a specific reason?
And lol, Progaderas the smoking seems to be a joke, he gets killed in every book, and comes back again. Immortal and free items every time!

 

[Boriss]

Yes.

Spoiler

In the last chapter, there will be multiple factions assaulting us. Will they also be attacking one another? Or another all versus us? Cos right now its all or nothing and I highly doubt Aridon wants demons to get the cannon. Id say he would prefer us having the cannon rather than demons.

 

[Championfighter25]

What happens if I spare Aaron chapter 8 B? will he make an appearance later on?

There have been absolutely no hints i think that he will appear, but who knows, maybe we can see him again in a future mission or campaign?

Also, I recieved a gem of true sight from an orc hero in the same chapter, is it just for lols or can be used later on for a specific reason?

I found no use for it. But you can keep it. It has no real story purpose.

And lol, Progaderas the smoking seems to be a joke, he gets killed in every book, and comes back again. Immortal and free items every time!

Well he is a comic relief boss.
Also why the hell isn't there a meme for him where it says "See you later Progadator."

 

[lekxman22]

I didnt saw aridon in chapter 8 lol

 

[Championfighter25]

I didnt saw aridon in chapter 8 lol

Because maybe he isn't in chapter 8?
Now if you are talking about Aaron then read what @LISBOAH just wrote below.

 

[LISBOAH]

I didnt saw aridon in chapter 8 lol

@Championfighter25 was talking about Aaron, a knight that was supposed to be dead, but somehow escaped the outpost before the demons destroyed it. He appears on Chapter 8 (in case you choose to aid Genethas) and warn us that Genethas is a traitor. Blen and Harmos, as the so trustful and stupid minds they are, call him a madman and aid Genethas in killing him.

Because maybe he isn't in chapter 8?

Maybe he was. Watching the events from a distance, without us knowing or realizing.

 

[Championfighter25]

Maybe he was. Watching the events from a distance, without us knowing or realizing.

Spoiler: Aridon spy mode theme XD

Anyway yeah he watches or has someone watching everything so yeah he was indirectly there.

 

[LISBOAH]

Spoiler: Aridon spy mode theme XD

Anyway yeah he watches or has someone watching everything so yeah he was indirectly there.

That. Aridon not only has magic that allows him to see everything on Arkain but has a huge network of spies.
Who knows, maybe he raised Aaron as a Death Knight?

 

[Championfighter25]

That. Aridon not only has magic that allows him to see everything on Arkain but has a huge network of spies.
Who knows, maybe he raised Aaron as a Death Knight?

Maybe, i can even imagine Aaron appear in chapter 12 or in the undead book, but we shall have to wait and see.

 

[LISBOAH]

Maybe, i can even imagine Aaron appear in chapter 12 or in the undead book, but we shall have to wait and see.

He most likely would be shocked to see his friend Salana as both queen of the Elves and ally (puppet) of Gardon.

Maybe he appears on the undead book, maybe not. Given that the books have different storylines, he might still be alive or maybe he was killed by the demons in the outpost.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Some info for AI and gameplay for updates for both the First and the Second Books:
Your allies will receive some buffs to make them more useful in battle.
This means mostly, but not exclusively, that they will send stronger waves of units attacking the enemy.
In some special cases, like Chapter Four of the First Human Book, there will be other changes as well.
In the aforementioned chapter, Gardon is, without a doubt, the most useful ally.
He will stay the one with the strongest attacks, but the others will also be improved, i. e. giving you
buffs if choosing them over Gardon.
Speaking of this chapter, it will be made harder for people not to kill Salana's apprentice, Lera.
At the same time, her death/non-death will be given more weigth in the Second Human Book when
Chapter Seven receives its overhaul.

Your enemies, however, will also become stronger. Tower spam will be made less effective by
increasing the number of artillery used by the enemy. Also... other.... toys...
The Arkain Industries Science Team is creating new weapons at this very moment.

Oh, and the food cap of Chapter Nine of the Second Human Book will be increased from 100 to 120.
It is up to you if you use it for more Destructors.... Or if you face the challenge to defeat your enemies
without air support.
Your ally will be stripped of his own air units.

 

[robizeratul]

Did this update go live? I just finished the first map of the HUman book series!

 

[Shar Dundred]

Just got announced.

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

Didnt quite get the last line. Accomplishing the optional quest won't give us additional units anymore?

 

[Shar Dundred]

No, it still will. I was just saying that 120 food supply for this one mission may make it easier
for those who want to try the mission without completing the optional quest.

 

[Boriss]

Just got announced.

So this update will be released before another chapter of the 2nd book?

 

[Shar Dundred]

No.

 

[adriano]

hello shar how fast can we except the chapter 10?

 

[War Machine]

I played your campaign, maybe be off with too much numbers of characters.

 

[Boriss]

I played your campaign, maybe be off with too much numbers of characters.

more characters means more characters to kill

 

[LickMyEyeBall]

more characters means more characters to kill

Didnt know Shar is George Martin's son.

 

[Boriss]

Didnt know Shar is George Martin's son.

He aint, he´s G. Martin´s tutor

 

[LISBOAH]

Didnt know Shar is George Martin's son.

No, he isn't. Otherwise characters would be dropping like flies...
He is more like Glen Cook, the writer of The Black Company series.

Anyway, how is the next chapter going Shar?

 

[Ahman]

more characters means more characters to kill

Yes. Many characters already died, some were even legendary. It tells us how savage and cruel the world of Arkain is.
Brace yourselves, for you might drop dead at any moment!!

 

[Boriss]

Yes. Many characters already died, some were even legendary. It tells us how savage and cruel the world of Arkain is.
Brace yourselves, for you might drop dead at any moment!!

at the utter end of the campaign
Gardon stands surrounded by his most trusted (translate as most ensorcelled) generals, viewing the devastation of the land.
Demons are defeated, undead are gone, the Empire retreated across the sea. Orcs have been wiped out.
Then, gardon turns into the camera, saying
"There is one last enemy to defeat".
Then he stabs the camera, and floating text says "You are dead".
Gardon kills the player and becomes the absolute ruler of the continent.

 

[Ahman]

at the utter end of the campaign
Gardon stands surrounded by his most trusted (translate as most ensorcelled) generals, viewing the devastation of the land.
Demons are defeated, undead are gone, the Empire retreated across the sea. Orcs have been wiped out.
Then, gardon turns into the camera, saying
"There is one last enemy to defeat".
Then he stabs the camera, and floating text says "You are dead".
Gardon kills the player and becomes the absolute ruler of the continent.

That could be true, because only the strong wins in Arkain. Gardon, Adeale (and Blen?) are the main protagonists right now. Either the two rule together as king and queen, Absolute power, or one kills the other

 

[LISBOAH]

That could be true, because only the strong wins in Arkain. Gardon, Adeale (and Blen?) are the main protagonists right now. Either the two rule together as king and queen, Absolute power, or one kills the other

My opinion is that only the most cunning win in Arkain.

I think Aedale is more concerned with magical power and knowledge than political power.

 

[Championfighter25]

My opinion is that only the most cunning win in Arkain.

I think Aedale is more concerned with magical power and knowledge than political power.

Aridon always wins, now if he is really dead then Gardon will be the winner.

And yes i doubt she cares if Arkain dies or survives, if the kingdoms prevail or fall, as long as she gets her revenge and even more power she won't care. The only way she will indicrectly care about politics is if someone endangers her quest or existence then she will kill him and it's gonna remain at that.

 

[LISBOAH]

Aridon always wins, now if he is really dead then Gardon will be the winner.

Until Gardon dies.
If we take lifespan as a factor and if Aridon is dead, Brian will be the winner.

And yes i doubt she cares if Arkain dies or survives, if the kingdoms prevail or fall, as long as she gets her revenge and even more power she won't care. The only way she will indicrectly care about politics is if someone endangers her quest or existence then she will kill him and it's gonna remain at that.

Aedale might not care about influence, but Lisara most likely does.

 

[Championfighter25]

Until Gardon dies.
If we take lifespan as a factor and if Aridon is dead, Brian will be the winner.

Why do i feel like Gardon will find a way to massively extend his life? Maybe Brian possibly dies in the end of the 2nd book ( if this happens it will make me very sad) and Gardon takes his shadow powers like a "passing the torch" type thing and Gardon lives forever? Who knows... *in a Gul'dan voice* So many possibilities...

Aedale might not care about influence, but Lisara most likely does.

Yep, she (Lisara) wants to get her revenge on Ebira for stealing her place as master assasin of the souleater legion so who knows what might happen. It's interesting how will all of this transition in chapter 13 and in Aedale and Lisara's future plans, motives and intentions.

 

[LISBOAH]

Why do i feel like Gardon will find a way to massively extend his life? Maybe Brian possibly dies in the end of the 2nd book ( if this happens it will make me very sad) and Gardon takes his shadow powers like a "passing the torch" type thing and Gardon lives forever? Who knows... *in a Gul'dan voice* So many possibilities...

Yeah. Gardon doesn't seem the type of guy that has any intention in letting death come and take him. He will seek to build his empire himself and maybe even rule it for all eternity.
I can imagine him becoming in something similar to Aridon or Brian...and centuries later becoming the enemy to humanity.

Yep, she (Lisara) wants to get her revenge on Ebira for stealing her place as master assasin of the souleater legion so who knows what might happen. It's interesting how will all of this transition in chapter 13 and in Aedale and Lisara's future plans, motives and intentions.

And what better than way than first amass all power avaiable, aid her master in obtaining control over everything and then finnaly have her revenge?

 

[Shar Dundred]

I can imagine him becoming in something similar to Aridon or Brian...and centuries later becoming the enemy to humanity.

That'd be quite ironic since he is currently willing to sacrifice everything to SAVE humanity.

 

[Championfighter25]

That'd be quite ironic since he is currently willing to sacrifice everything to SAVE humanity.

I see in Gardon something i never thought i'd see in any character... and that's realising the truth about war. People will die and mourning them will do no good. You must move on and continue. It's the sad realily and he has realised it a long time ago. That trait in him makes him so skilled in both combat and commanding a army.
Also didn't you say he might be willing to sacrifice every living being including every human on the continent if it meant a complete stop to the demons forever? I know it's a pretty big might, but the fact that he can consider it as a option means he might, just might lead to humanities extinction if not careful. Just speculation though.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Also didn't you say he might be willing to sacrifice every living being including every human on the continent if it meant a complete stop to the demons forever? I know it's a pretty big might, but the fact that he can consider it as a option means he might, just might lead to humanities extinction if not careful. Just speculation though.

I did say that and he would sacrifice everything and everyone if he had to.
At the same time, he wouldn't destroy himself willingly unless it was absolutely certain that he destroyed
the enemies of humanity in doing so.

 

[LISBOAH]

I did say that and he would sacrifice everything and everyone if he had to.
At the same time, he wouldn't destroy himself willingly unless it was absolutely certain that he destroyed
the enemies of humanity in doing so.

There is a difference between believing to do what is best for humanity and making others see it too. If Gardon is too secretive and private about his actions and goals, those around him might not understand why he does what he does and see him as "he fought monsters for so long that he turned into one" and looked at the abyss for far too long.
Basically a deconstruction of Well-Intentioned Extremist.

Besides Arthas had the exact same intentions at first and it ended with him destroying Lordaeron!

 

[Championfighter25]

There is a difference between believing to do what is best for humanity and making others see it too. If Gardon is too secretive and private about his actions and goals, those around him might not understand why he does what he does and see him as "he fought monsters for so long that he turned into one" and looked at the abyss for far too long.
Basically a deconstruction of Well-Intentioned Extremist.

His most trusted that being Brian, Thanok and maybe Vail already know his secrets and his army im sure is well aware what they are fighting for so calling him too secretive is a bit of a overstatement. Plus he needs to keep most of his current plans a secret or everyone will just kill him for his questionable actions. When the time is right he will reveal to everyone all the secrets before kept hidden.

Besides Arthas had the exact same intentions at first and it ended with him destroying Lordaeron!

I guess we shall have to wait and see if he turns into another Arthas. Since he has given up on the idea of using demonic magic it shows he has some principles and somewhat of a moral code. And having principles and a moral code even if minimal means you can make the right decision. If he has doubts in himself he has people he can turn to for guidance to make the right choice unlike Arthas who at the time had everyone he loved leave him. With all of this in mind i doubt he will turn into a Arthas, but we shall have to wait and see. Will his absolute victory thing get the better of him or will he turn to his basic moral and principle code and realise "No, i will sacrifice a lot, but i will never sacrifice my soul and all of humanity for this kind of power. I know my absolute victory has blinded me, but no more! Today i prove that im not the abomination and monster you all think i am and decline this offer for power". I hope it's the latter.

 

[LISBOAH]

His most trusted that being Brian, Thanok and maybe Vail already know his secrets and his army im sure is well aware what they are fighting for so calling him too secretive is a bit of a overstatement. Plus he needs to keep most of his current plans a secret or everyone will just kill him for his questionable actions. When the time is right he will reveal to everyone all the secrets before kept hidden.

Let's review his most trusted followers and allies:
Thanok: a disguised dragon
Brian: a creature wielding shadow magic
Vail: a former pariah
Salana: under his control
See what I mean?

He will reveal his plans, once he is absolutely sure anyone capable of ruining them is gone for good. That is what I would do.

I guess we shall have to wait and see if he turns into another Arthas. Since he has given up on the idea of using demonic magic it shows he has some principles and somewhat of a moral code. And having principles and a moral code even if minimal means you can make the right decision. If he has doubts in himself he has people he can turn to for guidance to make the right choice unlike Arthas who at the time had everyone he loved leave him. With all of this in mind i doubt he will turn into a Arthas, but we shall have to wait and see. Will his absolute victory thing get the better of him or will he turn to his basic moral and principle code and realise "No, i will sacrifice a lot, but i will never sacrifice my soul for this kind of power. I know my absolute victory has blinded me, but no more! Today i prove that im not the abomination and monster you all think i am and decline your offer". I hope it's the latter.

I truly hope too it is the latter.