Rome Total War 1.82

[Milance]

One time when i leave rome or other cities,i cant enter them again.Oh yeah,and i can only leave rome.I have one question:How to control Religion or Faction.

 

[cleavinghammer]

To get back in, you have to give your guy a move order inside the city, it works like a way gate.

As for factions, each faction leader has an ability to increase the hold on the city by giving money or other actions (bringing your units, giving them your renown...).

 

[purparisien]

Well it is a Portail : you can go back to Rome or another City by clicking on it. It is not region. So it is not enough to go in a region next to the city. Just right click somewhere in the city, the guy will find his way on his own.

To control a Religion there are several ways depending on your city:
In Rome, you have to join the sect of Remus or the sect of Romulus
In Alexandria, you have to be a Jew or a Christian
In Carthage, you choose one of two senatorial family
In Athens, you go become an Aristocrat or a Democrat

Once you find the people that allow you to join the Religion/Sect, you will have various missions to fullfill. Your Goal is to seek the control of the city at 100% with your sect.

Besides, I will add Sparta as a special destination when you are in Athens. You will some unique items and units to purchase there.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Really not getting the experience thing... Why prevent heroes from going up levels? If you really want to keep the time a scoreboard'll do just fine (in fact, now that I think about it it's be a good idea to keep track of influence and such in multiplayer).

So I've played the RP version a few times and I think that the rank progress needs some tweaking. The first few aren't that difficult, but they're just so boring (especially the 10,000 gold one). I suggest that you put in some minor income-granting activities (for example, do the docker quest enough times and it grants you a periodic income but still allows you to do the quest for extra money) so that you can do other things with less grinding.

 

[purparisien]

Actually I reduce the EXP earned in the RTS by 80% but it was too important I think. I will just go back to the standard XP earning now.

The levels don't have a partacular meaning in the RP version. The other stats have other effects. However, in the RTS mode it is very important and I'm gonna change it back.

I try to find something else than the 10 K objective.

 

[Peaces]

To control a Religion there are several ways depending on your city:
In Rome, you have to join the sect of Remus or the sect of Romulus
In Alexandria, you have to be a Jew or a Christian
In Carthage, you choose one of two senatorial family
In Athens, you go become an Aristocrat or a Democrat

Once you find the people that allow you to join the Religion/Sect, you will have various missions to fullfill. Your Goal is to seek the control of the city at 100% with your sect.

But are the missions replayable?

 

[cleavinghammer]

Yeah, they're more of a "click until a number goes higher" thing, except the one where you kill an NPC (but that doesn't do much).

 

[Peaces]

Even the detective job isn't replayable at all too.

 

[Peaces]

By the way, how can I become a merchant when the only possible outcome is death?

 

[cleavinghammer]

I think you're supposed to take the boat.

 

[Peaces]

I think you're supposed to take the boat.

How? I've already bought a boat but can't get out of the city.

 

[cleavinghammer]

The docks have an icon to instantly take you to one of the other cities, but it costs 1000 gold. If you're in Athens, winning in the arena teleports you to Carthage, saving you some gold.

 

[Peaces]

The docks have an icon to instantly take you to one of the other cities, but it costs 1000 gold. If you're in Athens, winning in the arena teleports you to Carthage, saving you some gold.

Merchant products are on horses so how can bring them to the other city?
Travel by foot?

 

[cleavinghammer]

Oh, I thought you were talking about something else.

In which case your best bet is probably to rank up until you can build outside the city and get a shipyard (haven't tried the merchanting yet).

 

[purparisien]

Well I'm gonna update the merchandise jobs in the next version. You will be able to build transport ship inside the city AND leaving the area by boat. Then you can put your horses on these transport to travel more safely.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Maybe give slaves inventories so they can help with carrying (until you can afford horses).

 

[purparisien]

Well I can add that to the engineer freedman. So he can have some purpose.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Carrying stuff seems more of a slave thing though.

Maybe give the engineer a better lumber gathering rate via tools, or call him a craftsman and let him craft stuff to sell?

 

[purparisien]

Maybe. For now, I will add the possibility to buy a second one handed weapon for the hero. It will be less effective than the main.

Also, I fix the bugs you have mentionned above. I also add a guild sysytem: when you reach a certain number in various jobs you will be a member of the guild and earn a constant revenu.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Excellent, I wanted to suggest something like that for a later version.

Some ideas regarding ships:
You should make the Roman fishing ability autocast, since it doesn't always hit, it prevents it from being too important a gold source.
Maybe consider adding some respawning enemy ships between trade routes.
The frigate uses cannons in its tooltip.

 

[purparisien]

Capitals will have a more vital purpose :
They will grant special items and give extra units when controled by a faction.
They will also display the culture and the religion of the area.

 

[Mech_Warrior]

Hey, quick question: Are the trees near your Lumber Mill supposed to be destroyable? My workers in Alexandria were chopping down the whole forest relatively quickly, leaving me nothing else to mine wood from. I remember in the old version (when it was just Rome) that the trees replenished themselves. Is that no longer the case?

 

[purparisien]

Damn I forgot that ! I'm gonna fix this issue : Trees will be destroyabled but will respawn

 

[cleavinghammer]

Those in Athens appear to be indestructible (I thought that was on purpose though).

 

[purparisien]

Yes, but I think it is bit more realistic if they get cut off then regrow after 60 seconds

 

[cleavinghammer]

Pyramid no longer works. The second room doesn't do anything after the message, and while it's possible to get to the third room you're stuck there as the trap doesn't trigger.

 

[purparisien]

That's really weird. I didn't change a thing there. I'm gonna have a look

 

[cleavinghammer]

Also the room transitions are weird, sometimes he goes to the next and sometimes he goes to the border. Maybe use on/off way gates here as well?

 

[Peaces]

Pyramid no longer works. The second room doesn't do anything after the message, and while it's possible to get to the third room you're stuck there as the trap doesn't trigger.

The second room works for me.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Really? Weird. Maybe it's just my computer.

Rome:
Took the amphorae to the granary, but didn't get any money (even by dropping them on the floor).
Bought a chariot, but I can't figure out how to enter the race.

 

[pramool32165]

i'm so laggy ........ because huge map how to fix ? [sry for noob eng
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[cleavinghammer]

Setting the camera to a lower height can help.

 

[purparisien]

When you buy a Chariot you need to go to the building on the left to participate to the Race.

 

[purparisien]

The new version is out with the following updates:
-Egypt has been extended along the Nile
-Add Rare items and special units for each Capital controled
-Trees can be destroyed and regrowned
-Guild system has been added for different jobs
-Neutral and Hostile units are now ennemis
-Priest job works properly
-Cities can be reached by the sea
-EXP can be gained in GM
-Save & Load work properly
-Detective Job can be replayable
-More infos are displayed in the starting book
-Ingeneer can hold items
-Secondary weapons can be bought instead of shields
-Gallic ans Scandinavian Units have been redone

 

[cleavinghammer]

Alexandria is the only city to sell transports.
The SE corner not open yet? Shame, I wanted to kickdrop a Persian.
The blue ping from the guide is barely visible.
You should explain the guilds in the game (which jobs, how often you need to do them, etc.)
You should make the water near Constantinople passable by boats and ground units, saves a lot of time.

 

[purparisien]

I was hesitating to open the city but it is not really prepared yet. I will need at least one week before I can finish it. I think it could be good to release a map meanwhile.

I'll also add the boats for the other shipyards. I've just forget it.

Besides, I was wondering if later I can send you, cleavinghammer, the map before I post it online on the hive to test it?

 

[cleavinghammer]

Sure, I guess.

Weird one in Alexandria: After joining the Jews and getting them to 100%, the number of Zealots available at the church's rabbi keeps going up until you buy one, at which point it disappears.

The Palace in the water in Alexandria doesn't turn into a house when you buy it (still takes your money though).

 

[purparisien]

That's problematic I'm gonna check on these problems

 

[cleavinghammer]

Oh wait, I'd already bought a house, that must be it. Edit: Succesfully bought another house on land this time, so... I dunno.

If the Hannonids win, they claim the Barcids won. They also have less soldiers than the Barcids (and don't improve with the number of senators), and once on the throne you can't buy items and soldiers anymore (as if there wasn't a hero in range).

The Senators should change color as soon as you corrupt them, instead of on the "check influence" button.

Once you become Emperor, if you happen to equip a different special item the fanfare plays again.

Some unique units have wrong tooltips (ex. Steppe Noble is called Guerilla Warrior).

 

[Fingolfin]

This seems like a pretty cool map, too bad it is unplayable.

I have a pretty good computer, but when i am in cities, the fps drops to 6 frames per second. On the world map it is a modest 19 frames. I think you have a problem with periodic triggers dragging down your performance. There also seems to be some leaks, as i get some black screen when closing the map. It is obvious that the triggering is not optimal.

 

[purparisien]

Thanks did you save & load character work ?

 

[Fingolfin]

I never really played long enough to save or load characters, but i can test that out later if you want.

 

[purparisien]

Yes I'm not so good with triggers actually. However, the main problem is the units that hide/unhide the buildings. In the next version, I will probably replace the units by destructible to improve the fps. Those make the map laggy. You can reduce the field of sight to have more fps.

 

[Peaces]

The trading posts' horses can't get in to any city.

 

[purparisien]

I replace each building roof by a destructible to erase the lag in the city. I will also remove thi sight for all the cities if it helps. Therefore, a lot of lags will be reduced in the next vers.

 

[Menethas]

Wow, this map is awesome. However it's a shame that there is so much lag but it's still a great map, good job (but please try to reduce lag) 5/5

 

[cleavinghammer]

Maybe put some no-fly zones for wanderers, occasionally one ends up in a fountain or a crate floating the streets of Alexandria (better than looking for all the pathing holes).

Still can't get any experience for heroes in DM. Are you sure you didn't set all the creeps to give zero exp?
Scythians: the Archery sells two archer units for the same price, one of them is a Horse Archer.

Capitals have no units around them.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Hmm... looks like I'm playing this map. Will make a review afterwards.

 

[lDarkAlex]

There's a bug with the faction of Aristrocrats at Athens. When they reach the 100% they don't win,they still figthing with Democrats for the power. Greetings from Venezuela,i apologize for my bad english :s

 

[purparisien]

Oh really ? Ok I'll fix this soon. The next version should be ready this week.