Rise of the Blood Elves v3.0

[StormKnight]

ah, ok! Thx! +1 rep

thanks were both on the low level on rep points so ill give you rep also.

 

[tomoraider]

Really nice campaign, but one thing kinda bothered me...
The Ruïns of Quel'thalas didn't really seem like how Blizzard made Quel'Thalas look in the first place. Now, that's not actualy what I'm complaining about here, since everyone has their own opinions. But what did bother me is that it looked more like just a country side of Lordaeron than what I would consider calling Quel'thalas.
You see, the fall Quel'thalas were one of my most favourite chapthers of the original campaign to play, because it just looked so different and original from the chapthers of the Scourge of Lordaeron. It just had this amazing atmosphere and nice enviorment: the lightgreen grass, the Lily pads, the buildings, the rivers and lakes, the small villages and layout...

Now, I understand this is supposed to be the Ruïns of Quel'thalas, but... I just can't explain with words, I'll start up the editor and show you how I would Imagine the Ruïns of Quel'Thalas...

Image of Quel'Thalas Ruïns attached.
Made by me in about 6 minutes.

Hmm, honestly, that still looks kinda the same to me. I don't really think the specific feel of the Quel'Thalas levels can be recreated as ruins with the default assets within the editor. There may be some custom models that could help there, but I'm not sure I'd really want to change it at this point.

 

[5tR82H311]

Your campaign ist so awesome! So many details an so much love in story telling. I absolutly enjoyed your campaing.
Thx for the good work!

U send me back to my good old blood elf vibes from The Burning Crusade!

 

[tomoraider]

Your campaign ist so awesome! So many details an so much love in story telling. I absolutly enjoyed your campaing.
Thx for the good work!

U send me back to my good old blood elf vibes from The Burning Crusade!

Thank you, glad you liked it!

 

[Verb8im]

In Chapter 10, the Black Temple level, Kargath has the stats of a paladin, whereas in the rest of the campaign, he has the stats of Rexxar. Was this intentional?

 

[tomoraider]

In Chapter 10, the Black Temple level, Kargath has the stats of a paladin, whereas in the rest of the campaign, he has the stats of Rexxar. Was this intentional?

Probably not. Not sure how that happened. I'll fix it in the next update.

 

[Kordan]

7 Velens out of 7 for the campaign. I enjoyed it a lot. I was a bit sad to not have seen Vorental and.. Kael kills Illidan? No no no please no)) and Kargath with arms too all the esle is just fabilous may be give some more time to read the dialogs but.. meh) dunno

 

[Arjuna]

Humm, i have a problem which i don't know how to solve... siphon mana in the original game states in the tool tip it can GIVE mana to allied units -- but that never worked for me (error: "can't target friendly units"), was this a bug? But as it does not work in RotBE too, i wonder if it does not because of the same bug, or because in RotBE its just a draining ability ?

And a suggestion: Shouldn't Lor'Themar, as a BattleMAGE, intrinsically being able to attack air units? Activating both Attack 1 and 2 in his editor would allow that, attack two an only-air ranged attack ...with or without projectile, the "instant" attack type that standard human dwarf marksmen have would fit, his sword his would just magically hit air units so to say.

 

[tomoraider]

Hey everyone! I added a translations section in the campaign's description. So far, I am familiar with the russian translation of v3.0, but I do not know if any other exist. I was contacted by some of you about the earlier versions, but if you know of any other translations of v3.0, let me know so I can link them as well.

7 Velens out of 7 for the campaign. I enjoyed it a lot. I was a bit sad to not have seen Vorental and.. Kael kills Illidan? No no no please no)) and Kargath with arms too all the esle is just fabilous may be give some more time to read the dialogs but.. meh) dunno

Wooooo, 7 out of 7 Velens! Glad you liked the campaign!

Humm, i have a problem which i don't know how to solve... siphon mana in the original game states in the tool tip it can GIVE mana to allied units -- but that never worked for me (error: "can't target friendly units"), was this a bug? But as it does not work in RotBE too, i wonder if it does not because of the same bug, or because in RotBE its just a draining ability ?

And a suggestion: Shouldn't Lor'Themar, as a BattleMAGE, intrinsically being able to attack air units? Activating both Attack 1 and 2 in his editor would allow that, attack two an only-air ranged attack ...with or without projectile, the "instant" attack type that standard human dwarf marksmen have would fit, his sword his would just magically hit air units so to say.

Huh. To be perfectly honest, I never actually tried that function with Siphon Mana. I will check it out!

As for Lor'themar, that makes sense, but I think he's already quite powerful, and adding a ranged attack might make him way too powerful.

 

[Himperion]

Huh. To be perfectly honest, I never actually tried that function with Siphon Mana. I will check it out!

This one is controlled on the general variables from the skills, is deactivated by default.

 

[tomoraider]

This one is controlled on the general variables from the skills, is deactivated by default.

Hah, I had no idea. Thanks, I will fix that!

 

[suhaild23]

ok, been a while since I last checked on this. last time i downloaded was the 2.2 build, Whats new?

 

[Verb8im]

ok, been a while since I last checked on this. last time i downloaded was the 2.2 build, Whats new?

Check the changelog

 

[Fallensk]

Pretty much everything

 

[Saelendious]

hello, tomo
i played your campaings before, i enjoyed forsaken campaign a lot
then i was helping kirlandiya, yknow, testing and suggesting translation variation and some design stuff
translation is Full, and it is fantastic and has been received quite well
and i just wanted to thank you for these pieces of art

see ya when CotF 3.0 comes out c:

 

[tomoraider]

hello, tomo
i played your campaings before, i enjoyed forsaken campaign a lot
then i was helping kirlandiya, yknow, testing and suggesting translation variation and some design stuff
translation is Full, and it is fantastic and has been received quite well
and i just wanted to thank you for these pieces of art

see ya when CotF 3.0 comes out c:

Awesome, glad you all like it!

 

[Swaggalicious]

OMG tamoraider i rated 5/5 but one thing...... I clicked the sorceress....... BOOM ON DESKTOP... But it worked on my other laptop

 

[Ahman]

I like the way you kept the story canon almost 100% without failing the gameplay and the story. I don't wanna spoil anything to people who still haven't played this, but try not to give tomes, and items to Keal'thas for a reason you'll know later on...hehe
5/5 , good job and i hope you good fortune!

 

[tomoraider]

OMG tamoraider i rated 5/5 but one thing...... I clicked the sorceress....... BOOM ON DESKTOP... But it worked on my other laptop

I like the way you kept the story canon almost 100% without failing the gameplay and the story. I don't wanna spoil anything to people who still haven't played this, but try not to give tomes, and items to Keal'thas for a reason you'll know later on...hehe
5/5 , good job and i hope you good fortune!

Thanks, glad you liked it!

 

[syrian-force]

fuck.. i just noticed that there is cenimatics in this... i played it twice already months ago along with curse of the forsaken T_T

 

[Logan Raynor]

well, I've been following ur projects for quite a while, ever since the 1.00 version with Lor'Themar Agi built
gotta say, it's nice to see many significant changes within the campaign development
I've been thinking, do you have any plan on making a campaign based on other WOW version?
really want to see more story about MoP, WoD or even Legions...
oh and, one more thing, do you have anything of changing the model for Varian in CotF?

 

[tomoraider]

well, I've been following ur projects for quite a while, ever since the 1.00 version with Lor'Themar Agi built
gotta say, it's nice to see many significant changes within the campaign development
I've been thinking, do you have any plan on making a campaign based on other WOW version?
really want to see more story about MoP, WoD or even Legions...
oh and, one more thing, do you have anything of changing the model for Varian in CotF?

Lol the original Lor'themar with the weirdest mix of abilities and Illidan's voice! The first version had some crazy stuff.

Well, I'd love to do another campaign in the future, but like I've said many times, I've had trouble finding a storyline I've been as invested in as I was in the blood elven or the Forsaken storylines.

 

[Cake is a Lie]

What happened to the Cinematic part?

 

[Cowboy_Fang]

Uh, how do I get past the collapsing cave in chapter seven? None of the heroes activate the gate or the circle during the timed bit...

 

[Fallensk]

Lol the original Lor'themar with the weirdest mix of abilities and Illidan's voice! The first version had some crazy stuff.

Well, I'd love to do another campaign in the future, but like I've said many times, I've had trouble finding a storyline I've been as invested in as I was in the blood elven or the Forsaken storylines.

Something about Emerald dream or Well of Eternity and Highborne could be awesome Just suggestion

 

[AssasinRiper386]

Hello, tomoraider, I don't know if you're still making the newest version for Curse of the Forsaken or almost finishing it. It´s been a long time since I last played it but I want to make some suggestions you might consider it, not that I want you to do it, just suggesting.

CHAPTERS:
-I guess the chapters will have some changes like the dialoges like your previous campaign. If you're going to add a new chapter, Why not adding a new chapter like your previous campaign? You know, for more experience, gameplay with other heroes that are not Sylvanas, like Jaina, Thrall, such heroes.
-You said you were going to include a cinemtic entry, like in your previous campaign, right? Would it be the Lich King?

UNITS:
-Also, you mentioned there are going to be some changes on units and all.
-I have nothing to say for Ghouls, only if is there a posibility to make them a bit more resistant, and take of the icon of 'gather wood' because, if you have workers can gather gold and wood in your main building, why the Ghouls still have to gather? They could be more warriors like the swordman.
-Dark Rangers having a pet spider helping them isn´t too much? Those spider easily died and the 'slow poison' is almost like the 'poison arrow' the Dark Ranger have, not to mention the 'dark arrow' that is similar to Sylvanas's. I was thinking, how about a flying forsaken riderless unit instead of the spiders, in that way, the Dark Rangers can mount them or dismount them, also can leave spots when using the boats and attack those units scouting in the lakes, forest or places that groung units can´t reach. An for the 'dark arrow' probably something darker that can slow attack and/or movement like a void or something. In adition, the Dark Ranger's voice could be change to Sylvanas's original voice (the one that is in Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne)
-Dreadguard is fine, only if you can raise his mana point a little bit so he can make the 'lifesurge' twice in a round and I'm not sure if you can give them the 'defense' ability.
-Apothecary's spell are almost good. The first spell is like a 'fire bolt' that only stun 1 second, can it be 2 seconds?. The 'noxious cloud is a bit annoying because it also afects you own units but I guess you have to use it smartly. The last spell I see it very little, so few waves and healing points, I was hoping you could raise them, you know, more waves and more healing points.
-Banshee's spells are OK, including the one that replace the 'curse' spell. I see that reduce a bit the armor, can't it reduce the damage, too?
-I was thinking you might add another spellcaster for the spellcarster building, I don't know what kind so I hope you have a great idea.
-Meat wagons are OK with its upgrade and its 'noxious cloud', I guess.
-Gargoles, well, I think you could add an ability for its own, I was thinking in some kind of 'air slide' that can damage units in a line or something like that.
-Abominations can be more than that, even when it dies, it let those little parasites to fight but they easily died. Those parasites can infest enemy units or something that makes them multiples.
-Val'kyr's are amazing, but if there are 2 similar Val'kyr with diferent colors, why not giving them diferent spells? For example, one could have 'raising dead' spells and the other could have 'freezing spells'. I was thinking that because of the colors.

BUILDINGS:
-The way buildings are constructed are fine, but those that are like undead buildings, it could be constructed like the others building, not like summoning. This is the Forsaken campaign, so I guess all the building should be constructed in the same way, right?.
-The time buildings are constructed could be a little faster, it about the farms because it takes a bit long for something small.
-Towers with the Dark Ranger's arrows is something I've never seen in a tower, those 2 upgrades for the towers are great, have you thought about upgrading to a Death Tower?

HEROES:
-Sylvanas's 3 first abilities are OK, the last on, the one that summons Banshees could last long, 90s perhaps, and another spell like a 'shockwave', similar to the naga royal guard.
-Sylvanas's subname may be change from 'Dark Ranger' to 'The Dark Lady' or 'Queen of the Forsaken'.
-Phaelynne's first 2 spells are fine, but the one that makes her faster might be an auto-spell and casted to the rest of their units to make them faster, you know what I mean, the last spell that creates a cloud that unable anyone there to attack, why not make it that only enemy units can't attack? And instead of an selectable area, it might be a large area around her?
-Jaina's abilities are OK, except the 'summoning a water element', for the last upgrade to that spell, I was thinking of giving it a spell or make it inmune to magic.
-Varian's abilities are not very comfortable, for me, I liked those before version 2.1, the one that had 'stompwar', 'devotion aura', 'reincarnation', those spells, but if you have in mind other spells better than the actual one, I would like to see it in the newest version.
-Vereesa's abilities are OK for me.
-Trhall and Garrosh's abilities are OK, but they could have some changes in their spells, I supose.

Well, that's all I'm suggesting, I don't know if you're gonna pick them, but that's all up to you.
I'll be waiting for the release of your newest version of Curse of the Forsaken.
Good luck!!!

 

[tomoraider]

Uh, how do I get past the collapsing cave in chapter seven? None of the heroes activate the gate or the circle during the timed bit...

You have to drop the Arcane Crystal on the circle of power infront of the statue near that gate. You know, writing this made me realise how clunky that whole sequence is. I will have to change that.

Thank you for all your ideas, @AssasinRiper386, but I've pretty much already finished updating the techtree and the heroes. I will say though, there will be a new chapter.

 

[Shadowswift]

I signed up for a Hive account just to tell you that I thoroughly enjoyed this campaign. Now, I'm an Alliance player in WoW. Don't care much for blood elves, really...but this campaign was masterfully done. Only encountered one tiny glitch (the golom parts quest) but it was easily overlooked. I especially enjoyed the GLaDOS and Lord Richard easter eggs.

Well done.

 

[AssasinRiper386]

You have to drop the Arcane Crystal on the circle of power infront of the statue near that gate. You know, writing this made me realise how clunky that whole sequence is. I will have to change that.

Thank you for all your ideas, @AssasinRiper386, but I've pretty much already finished updating the techtree and the heroes. I will say though, there will be a new chapter.

Oh, I see, I was hoping that you could consider some of the ideas I had in mind to upgrade this campaign of yours, but if you have it almost finished, then probably for the next update.
Anew chapter? Can't wait to play it. By the way, this new version will be released at the end of the year or at the beggining of the next one?

 

[tomoraider]

I signed up for a Hive account just to tell you that I thoroughly enjoyed this campaign. Now, I'm an Alliance player in WoW. Don't care much for blood elves, really...but this campaign was masterfully done. Only encountered one tiny glitch (the golom parts quest) but it was easily overlooked. I especially enjoyed the GLaDOS and Lord Richard easter eggs.

Well done.

Thank you, glad you liked it. What glitch exactly did you encounter?

Oh, I see, I was hoping that you could consider some of the ideas I had in mind to upgrade this campaign of yours, but if you have it almost finished, then probably for the next update.
Anew chapter? Can't wait to play it. By the way, this new version will be released at the end of the year or at the beggining of the next one?

Don't know. I hope to finish it by the end of the year, but I probably won't make it.

 

[Shadowswift]

Thank you, glad you liked it. What glitch exactly did you encounter?

In the chapter that required you gather schematics to the Arcane Golems, apparently if you try to collect the schematics with a hero that already has full inventory, the quest won't complete properly. Either that, or I collected them in the wrong order. Or perhaps it was a combination of the two situations. I didn't run through and troubleshoot it. Sorry.

Have you, by chance, ever considered doing an Arthas redemption campaign?

 

[tomoraider]

In the chapter that required you gather schematics to the Arcane Golems, apparently if you try to collect the schematics with a hero that already has full inventory, the quest won't complete properly. Either that, or I collected them in the wrong order. Or perhaps it was a combination of the two situations. I didn't run through and troubleshoot it. Sorry.

Have you, by chance, ever considered doing an Arthas redemption campaign?

Ah, you can't collect them at all if you have a full inventory. And there is no wrong order, the schematics update properly however you collect them.

And no, I don't plan to do that.

 

[CheeseEtc]

Hello!

I've tried this campaign. The mapping, storytelling and mechanics are awesome (the spookiness of mission 8 dungeon is on point) but one big detail ruins everything: IT'S INSANELY DIFFICULT. The predeployed units missions are rather easy but those with a base are a nightmare. I was blocked as soon as mission 4. The green base is putting too much pressure on mine and I can't destroy it even with a 100/100 army thrown at it so I just lose by running out of ressources (not to mention I have to spend them resisting the AI attacks every 30 seconds). My anus' diameter increased by 5cm after having tried this campaign. I still whosyourdaddy'd my way to the end just to discover what it had to offer, each time hoping it would get smoother as I get better units but no.

I know it might sound like a detail for an otherwise well done campaign but the difficulty really ruins the fun. This campaign should be nerfed or at least have a modulable difficulty level.

I'm also not a fan for using new model for units that already exist. I prefer the original models but I suppose this is a matter of taste.

(Also the subscription process of this website is a nightmare. I spent 10 minutes on it... Very long captcha + form that clears itself whenever there's a single mistake)

 

[Rafael Silva]

Tomoraider,I had a problem while I played your campaing on chapter one:
The problem is,The dialoges don't appear!!Only appear on "log" buttom
But I remenber that it appeared the same error on another player campaing,Turnro
So,I think I'm having problems with ,probably, because of a config.,so give me some tips to correct it.

 

[tomoraider]

Hello!

I've tried this campaign. The mapping, storytelling and mechanics are awesome (the spookiness of mission 8 dungeon is on point) but one big detail ruins everything: IT'S INSANELY DIFFICULT. The predeployed units missions are rather easy but those with a base are a nightmare. I was blocked as soon as mission 4. The green base is putting too much pressure on mine and I can't destroy it even with a 100/100 army thrown at it so I just lose by running out of ressources (not to mention I have to spend them resisting the AI attacks every 30 seconds). My anus' diameter increased by 5cm after having tried this campaign. I still whosyourdaddy'd my way to the end just to discover what it had to offer, each time hoping it would get smoother as I get better units but no.

I know it might sound like a detail for an otherwise well done campaign but the difficulty really ruins the fun. This campaign should be nerfed or at least have a modulable difficulty level.

I'm also not a fan for using new model for units that already exist. I prefer the original models but I suppose this is a matter of taste.

(Also the subscription process of this website is a nightmare. I spent 10 minutes on it... Very long captcha + form that clears itself whenever there's a single mistake)

Glad you liked the campaign. As for the difficulty... I kind of disagree that it's too difficulty, I've always tried my best to balance it out how I think it should be, and a lot of people have said they like the difficulty, and I've personally never really found it too difficult. However, a few people have also said it should be easier, so, hmm... I think you are right, I should add multiple difficulties. I just never really got around to it, but at this point I don't think there is anything else I want to change in the campaign, so it should not be too challenging to add this, but I will do it after I finish Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.

Now I think I should add an easier difficulty, and an even more insane difficulty!

Tomoraider,I had a problem while I played your campaing on chapter one:
The problem is,The dialoges don't appear!!Only appear on "log" buttom
But I remenber that it appeared the same error on another player campaing,Turnro
So,I think I'm having problems with ,probably, because of a config.,so give me some tips to correct it.

You need to turn on subtitles in the game's options. The dialogues will then show up.

 

[Michael Clarkson]

Hi Hive-mind. Does anyone have a fixed version of this for Mac? I'm not really tech savvy and I can't download the software to make the fixes myself. If anyone has this and would able to make the download available through this website, that would be great! Or if you can direct me to a place where I can do it, that would be much appreciated x

 

[Yorfan]

Could you translate the campaign in Spanish ??

 

[AssasinRiper386]

Don't know. I hope to finish it by the end of the year, but I probably won't make it.

I get it, so it would be at the beggining of the next year?
Also, I was wondering if you would consider some of the ideas I gave you, for a future upgrade after the release of the newest version. Well, in case if it is need a slight change for this campaign to make it a bit more exciting.

 

[Wooden PC]

Not sure if the Black Temple mission is too hard or I'm just a noob. I can barely make it through their attack. Fel orc and Naga were already broken af in TFT campaign

 

[Footman16]

Hi Hive-mind. Does anyone have a fixed version of this for Mac? I'm not really tech savvy and I can't download the software to make the fixes myself. If anyone has this and would able to make the download available through this website, that would be great! Or if you can direct me to a place where I can do it, that would be much appreciated x

With the most recent patch I believe the icon crashes are supposed to be fixed, "supposed to be" being the key phrase.

 

[Deltron]

Fantastic campaign! Each mission felt like it could stand on its own in terms of story and gameplay. Everything felt very polished and complete. Some missions were quite challenging, but I never felt hopeless. I'm currently showcasing my playthrough on my YouTube channel.

 

[tomoraider]

I get it, so it would be at the beggining of the next year?

No idea. I do still hope to make it by the end of the year.

Not sure if the Black Temple mission is too hard or I'm just a noob. I can barely make it through their attack. Fel orc and Naga were already broken af in TFT campaign

It is pretty hard, perhaps even a bit too much. I intend to do more work on balancing and difficulty sometime soon in the future.

Fantastic campaign! Each mission felt like it could stand on its own in terms of story and gameplay. Everything felt very polished and complete. Some missions were quite challenging, but I never felt hopeless. I'm currently showcasing my playthrough on my YouTube channel.

Glad you liked it! Love seeing Youtube playthroughs of my campaigns, will check it out!

 

[tomoraider]

100k downloads! This campaign has come a long way since its release. Thanks to everyone who played it!

 

[Verb8im]

100k downloads! This campaign has come a long way since its release. Thanks to everyone who played it!

Thanks for making them! Can't wait for Curse of the Forsaken 3.0!

 

[Shellshock]

Well, it's been 48 hours and I've already completed 50% of the campaign.
I absolutely love it. Besides the occasional bug like can't place a building here and there. The annoying one though was when you were in the tombs to kill darkhain but you couldn't go to the bottom left for some reason.
As for the difficulty... Geez, guys, it's not that hard. The one were you have to wait for Kael and Sylvanus is pretty difficult but after a few tries, i got it.
Finally, are you gonna update this besides bugs and glitches?
Are we gonna see a rise of the blood elves 4.0?

 

[Anaxie]

Well, it's been 48 hours and I've already completed 50% of the campaign.
I absolutely love it. Besides the occasional bug like can't place a building here and there. The annoying one though was when you were in the tombs to kill darkhain but you couldn't go to the bottom left for some reason.
As for the difficulty... Geez, guys, it's not that hard. The one were you have to wait for Kael and Sylvanus is pretty difficult but after a few tries, i got it.
Finally, are you gonna update this besides bugs and glitches?
Are we gonna see a rise of the blood elves 4.0?

A major update is planned after Curse 3.0 is done. Maybe not 4.0 but major changes were hinted

 

[tomoraider]

Well, it's been 48 hours and I've already completed 50% of the campaign.
I absolutely love it. Besides the occasional bug like can't place a building here and there. The annoying one though was when you were in the tombs to kill darkhain but you couldn't go to the bottom left for some reason.
As for the difficulty... Geez, guys, it's not that hard. The one were you have to wait for Kael and Sylvanus is pretty difficult but after a few tries, i got it.
Finally, are you gonna update this besides bugs and glitches?
Are we gonna see a rise of the blood elves 4.0?

Thanks, glad you liked it. Can you specify the bugs and glitches you encountered?

A major update is planned after Curse 3.0 is done. Maybe not 4.0 but major changes were hinted

I plan to just do some changes to correspond with CotF v3.0's updates, like multiple difficulties, some Forsaken techtree changes, stuff like that. Nothing major.

 

[Shellshock]

I forgot exactly which mission it was... sorry
When Sylvanus, Kael and Alessandra wherein the caves and in the bottom right where you fight spiders for some reason my men couldn't go through though they could attack
had to save and load a few times before it started working.

 

[Anaxie]

Thanks, glad you liked it. Can you specify the bugs and glitches you encountered?



I plan to just do some changes to correspond with CotF v3.0's updates, like multiple difficulties, some Forsaken techtree changes, stuff like that. Nothing major.

Multiple difficulties is major. Imo

 

[tomoraider]

I forgot exactly which mission it was... sorry
When Sylvanus, Kael and Alessandra wherein the caves and in the bottom right where you fight spiders for some reason my men couldn't go through though they could attack
had to save and load a few times before it started working.

That's not really a bug, just a bad decision on my part. Basically I made it so the players can't go there because I wanted them to see the cinematic at the door first. I need to come up with a better solution for that.