rapid upload rants...

[ventuz]

I dunno where to post my complaint but.. W..T..F Rambo, he uploading maps like rapidly. Page 1 map section, 10 out of 15 are rambo's map. Most of them are repeat.

Can't he test / play until it satisfied him then upload it? upgrade version come MUCH later, not upload every 1 minute.

 

[Bob27]

Ok yes this should be in Site Discussion. Moved.

I will see what I can do about this. If he is uploading the same map I will most likely delete the oldest ones.

 

[Ralle]

well that reminds me... what should we do with maps of many versions? Like having 30566 different versions of a map

 

[Healingpoison]

You could group them together and have to most recent version the one that people search for.

 

[ventuz]

How about limit uploading interval by 2 hours for each user? I can picture that he probly upload one, then find bug/want to add on something small then try upload again in 5 min later.. he can't. Then he go back to his map and fix/improve to the max, then upload 2 hour later.

 

[Archian]

How about limit uploading interval by 2 hours for each user? I can picture that he probly upload one, then find bug/want to add on something small then try upload again in 5 min later.. he can't. Then he go back to his map and fix/improve to the max, then upload 2 hour later.

sounds interesting, i like the idea somehow, and in this case i might seem like a good idea, though it could get annoying for those who've made great maps in the past and now want's to upload them, but they'll have to wait 2 hours until they can upload the other one.

anyway people should fully complete their map before uploading it.

 

[Bob27]

well don't worry i've already deleted all the old versions of his map

 

[GST_Nemisis]

if there are obvious popular version keep them. however does this use much space on the FTP? how much space can we use? if there is a huge amount why not keep each version in a link beneath the newest version so if someone is looking for a specific version it is sitll available but if they want the most popular or newest one they can get it easily.

 

[Healingpoison]

sort of like I was saying.

And we should watch any space limits

 

[Ralle]

I am probably gonna make it so each type of map can be merged together.
@Nemisis
we have 24 GB

 

[GST_Nemisis]

WOW 24 gig! does that cost alot?

and that does sound most cool.

 

[brad.dude03]

there are much larger webspaces then that, and no it isn't expensive as I have talked to ralle about it before. its actually a really great deal he's getting on it because he gets a good chunk of space, a domain name, mySQL support etc etc for a good deal. if each map is at max 4 MB each, with 24 gigs we have nothing to worry about.

 

[Ralle]

your right but I still think we should have some limits so we can have good maps instead of crapmaps.

it cost 5$ / month and I just earned 100$ from google so I can pay the hosting for some time

 

[Bob27]

well anyway I was thinking of starting to hire some people to help me clear out the maps section. Once again have to talk to Ralle on msn first :roll:

 

[Healingpoison]

20 months of of money there...

 

[brad.dude03]

yep, they should be good for webhosting for a long time. and it might be a good idea to go with that bob. because if you intend to clear out the maps section, well you're going to need all the help you can get lol.

 

[ventuz]

Ok instead of my "2 hour limit upload" idea. I just came up with different idea. Kind of like Newgrounds.com voting system, but backward and with a twist.

Map Immunity: No
Time Left: 30 days
Download left needed: 30

So the map will be uploaded, stay there for 30 days. When 30 days expire, check to see if download is more than 30, it stays. If Download is under 30, delete.

Map Immunity : Yes
Time Left: 30 days
Download left needed 15

Same idea from above but if it gain map immunity, it only need 15 download. In order to get "yes" to map immunity, they must describe what map do, their feature, etc in their "description from UPLOADER".. or come to forum to discuss about your map. Then admin / moderator come to the map and turn "yes" (make it doesn't affect downloaded count, what I mean is 25 left becomes 10 left)

I think that should help get rid of rapid upload of same kind of map. Like there's v1.0, v1.1, v1.2, v1.4.. people most likely download v1.4, and the rest will go byebye in 30 days.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

that sounds reasonable

 

[Ralle]

well I'd say maps that haven't been downloaded for one month instead of 30 downloads..

so if a map has been downloaded once the last 30 days it will stay, then I should make a panel where you can choose for how long time and for how many downloads.
but a very good idea indeed!

 

[Healingpoison]

That might discourage people from uploading maps though

 

[brad.dude03]

i don't think so. Really, if you upload your map, it does crappy, then you can try uploading it again after the 30 days is up. this would keep spammers and the like from just uploading maps, but it would also give people a chance who want to get their map out there. Even still, i guess if the map doesn't get 15 downloads in a month it isn't a good map... i like the idea though.

 

[Ralle]

hmm lets say 10 downloads

 

[GST_Nemisis]

i would say, 10 downloads or 30 days if it is another version of a map already on there. if it is the newest version it is kept and older versions are given 30 days/10 downloads to see if people still want them. unique maps should be kept whether they are downloaded or not because there is no telling when they may get popular or when someone might download it.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

You want to have a large and wide map database, right? With these limitations you are kinda ruining that and discouraging people to upload their maps because maybe not 10 people download it in a month and it will get deleted (once the map goes away from the first page it will only be downloaded when people search for it mostly).

These limitation ideas suck, might be good for a flash site like newground but I dont think that it fits here, what would fit was some moderation in the maps area deleting bad maps and maps with several versions (you cannot delete or update your map btw, that is bugged, it tells you you are not the right user).

 

[brad.dude03]

hey, my map only had like 105 downloads when it was on the front page. now it isn't and it has over 200. i'm really not concerned that way, people still get an equal chance to have their map downloaded and if your map is up there for 30 whole freaking days and not 10 poor saps download it, then you have failed as a mapmaker and you should try again and start fresh with a new map.

 

[Ralle]

well I still think 10 is quite a lot. if the map have been downloaded the last month, it's because someone wanted it and thats what counts

 

[Shados]

Look, for the latest version or the only version of the map keep it as now, any older versions can stay if they get over a certain number of downloads per month. That will mean the map database will have alot of maps, and only the latest/good versions will be kept!

 

[brad.dude03]

I agree with Shados' system. it sounds good. It would keep the map database clean and it would allow players to access the latest versions and all of their favourite older versions.

 

[Ralle]

Look, for the latest version or the only version of the map keep it as now, any older versions can stay if they get over a certain number of downloads per month. That will mean the map database will have alot of maps, and only the latest/good versions will be kept!

but how should we be able to see which versions are the latest without doing it by hand?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

I agree with Shados' system. it sounds good. It would keep the map database clean and it would allow players to access the latest versions and all of their favourite older versions.

WTF didnt you see me post?!?! grrr! look up at my post and it says exactly the same thing!

ah well, never mind :roll:

 

[Ralle]

there is just one problem. we need to wait atleast a month cause yesterday I made it so it started recording which day was the last download. so in a month all maps that have been downloaded will be registered

 

[brad.dude03]

well, if this works then we'll have the best organized and functionable map database on the net. pwnz0rz for Ralle!

 

[Shados]

Look, for the latest version or the only version of the map keep it as now, any older versions can stay if they get over a certain number of downloads per month. That will mean the map database will have alot of maps, and only the latest/good versions will be kept!

but how should we be able to see which versions are the latest without doing it by hand?

Well I suppose you'd have to do it by hand, OR you could put in a section in the upload function for the uploader to say what version it is.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

or you could relate map name and number by the v, so if you got a map being V1.3 and V1.4 it can tell the difference so long as the name before it is the same. can thart vbe done?

 

[brad.dude03]

I'd imagine it could, but the only problem with tha is not everyone puts a V befor the version number and such other things. I guess you could make it so that the mapuloader would reject it if it didn't have the version number in the title?