Profusion (3) v3.10

[deepstrasz]

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Spoiler: there it goes

1. Terrain is pretty much flat.
2. You are forced in many zones to first engage neutral hostile camps before being able to go further to the real enemy.
3. Not sure why you've removed the Quest Log, Menu and Log titles...
4. Spell Loss says it forces an enemy unit to drop an item. Not sure why the title says spell then.
5. Keg of Ale has no description.
6. Tome of Experience to be bought? That could be too much but maybe it helps against those huge neutrals later on?
7. Not all of the Tavern heroes are available. Save the map with the latest melee patch version (map options).
8. Reduce creep camping range. The Furbolgs in the midnorth attacked me after placing a building even though they were not in visible range. Not only that but many camps help each other which shouldn't happen.
9. Items don't have a description when hovering the mouse over them on the ground. It's either +number or nothing. Actually, they don't have a title/name. Some have though, not all. Furbolg summon item doesn't, some tomes don't. Scroll of Town Portal and Agile Network don't have any description. Or the Glyph of Fortification that drops from the big lizard: no title and no description...
10. So, trees are infinite? Guess that works badly for Night Elves somewhat.
11. Item drops seem random in that some heroes/players might get stronger than others.
12. Because creeps are so strong, it makes for a slow game where you have to wait and build your army and research upgrades...
13. Red Goblin Shop is different from the Blue one which means things aren't quite balanced between northern and southern players.
14. Even though the creeps are high level or strong, they don't give that much experience.
15. Reviving the huge lobster=instawin. At least make it temporary...

Overall, it doesn't make a good game and it doesn't really fit as good altered melee.
If the terrain is made by you, I suggest you make this into a normal melee instead.

I suggest you learn from these:
How to: Create a Full-working Custom Race
UB - Ultimate Battle v1.96 AI+
Deforestation of Felwood v2.1.1
Nightborne v1.04
Planetary Domination v2.04
Sands of Time [v1.9]
The Grand Citadel (Racial Issue 1.6)

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Spoiler: V

1. Terrain is pretty much flat.
- I made it more embossed, but something I did not like. may need to do better.

2. You are forced in many zones to first engage neutral hostile camps before being able to go further to the real enemy.
- So it is conceived, it should be so.

3. Not sure why you've removed the Quest Log, Menu and Log titles...
- There was no translation. Corrected.

4. Spell Loss says it forces an enemy unit to drop an item. Not sure why the title says spell then.
- There was no translation. Corrected.

5. Keg of Ale has no description.
- There was no translation. Corrected.

6. Tome of Experience to be bought? That could be too much but maybe it helps against those huge neutrals later on?
- Maybe.

7. Not all of the Tavern heroes are available. Save the map with the latest melee patch version (map options).
- Corrected.

8. Reduce creep camping range. The Furbolgs in the midnorth attacked me after placing a building even though they were not in visible range. Not only that but many camps help each other which shouldn't happen.
- Has long been reduced, but now does not work. The reasons are not known. I changed the constants, it still does not work.

9. Items don't have a description when hovering the mouse over them on the ground. It's either +number or nothing. Actually, they don't have a title/name. Some have though, not all. Furbolg summon item doesn't, some tomes don't. Scroll of Town Portal and Agile Network don't have any description. Or the Glyph of Fortification that drops from the big lizard: no title and no description...
- There was no translation. Corrected.

10. So, trees are infinite? Guess that works badly for Night Elves somewhat.
- It is unknown.

11. Item drops seem random in that some heroes/players might get stronger than others.
- There was no translation. Corrected.

12. Because creeps are so strong, it makes for a slow game where you have to wait and build your army and research upgrades...
- Yes, but so conceived.

13. Red Goblin Shop is different from the Blue one which means things aren't quite balanced between northern and southern players.
- Shops periodically change places.

14. Even though the creeps are high level or strong, they don't give that much experience.
- The level was counted according to their HP and attack. Disbalance is possible. I do not know where I was wrong.

15. Reviving the huge lobster=instawin. At least make it temporary...
- The rune was removed.


Overall, it doesn't make a good game and it doesn't really fit as good altered melee.
If the terrain is made by you, I suggest you make this into a normal melee instead.
I will not change anything anymore, I like this hardcore.
Perhaps I will do it for melee. Need time..

 

[deepstrasz]

To me this seems really simple in terms of altered melee. But it's not the simplicity but the lack of gameplay refinement on top of it. Buffing neutral hostiles and items isn't creative.
So, yeah, this map would work much better as normal melee.

Set to Substandard.

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