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[varsaigen]

lol I think he should dhare his studies with the public. What do you think? XD

 

[Sergeant Ray]

I think you all should think before you post.

 

[varsaigen]

I did. And it was funny.

 

[Sergeant Ray]

Varsaigen, put your tiny brain to work, and try to comprehend and understand what I said in the past.

 

[varsaigen]

eh. It was funny at the time. I just don't see the comlete logic in it. Now don't make me bite you. ><

 

[Sergeant Ray]

I think someone needs a hug
Back on topic.....

 

[gan_ws]

Hello.....I am from Malaysia and I wanna show you guys something about my country's politic.

Ahmad Ismail's Incendiary Racial Remarks
On the evening of August 23, 2008 Datuk Ahmad Ismail, UMNO Penang's Bukit Bendera division chief for 20 years campaigned for the BN candidate for the Permatang Pauh parliamentary seat. On August 25, local Chinese daily Sin Chew Daily reported the speech he made at Kampung Pelet in which he allegedly said Chinese were “squatters” and could not have equal rights.[1] He escalated the tensions between UMNO's ethnic Chinese Barisan partners with an outburst in which he warned the Chinese community not to seek political power. "The patience of the Malays and Muslims has a limit. Do not push us to the wall, as when we turn back we will be forced to push the Chinese in the interests of our own survival," he told a press conference. "The Chinese should not try to be like the Jews in America. It is not enough they control the economy, now they want political control." Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi said after a meeting of the Barisan Nasional's Supreme Council that party leaders had expressed "regret and anger" over the Ahmad Ismail's comments and that UMNO would make a decision on Ahmad's fate.

Ahmad Ismail was defiant as he left a meeting with the premier earlier, saying Malays were "frustrated" and that Malay "dignity" was at stake. "Half the Chinese say I'm a racist but most Malays say I'm a nationalist defending my race," he told reporters. "What I see now is a rise of the Malay people, and I feel we should capitalise on the strength, the support we get from the Malay people... I know they are with me."[2] Ahmad Ismail was eventually suspended from UMNO for the next three years on September 10, 2008. However, stronger action than had been expected in a bid to soothe growing anger in the Chinese community and among parties in his ruling coalition.[3]

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Ismail

Is he racist? I am one of the minority, Chinese.
Please give comment....lolz.

 

[varsaigen]

lol. America run by Jews? XD I hear that almost all of the politicians are Christians for the most part. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And yes, he's rascist. XD he sounds like a politician that subbed for my science class twice. The politician I met thought Polar bears were eating penguins in the Antarctic! XD and he thought the Trilobite (my fav ancient creature) was still alive. XD

 

[DrazharLn]

Why was a politician covering your science class?

I agree that Ahmad Ismail is a racist, based on just that article.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

In the history of the United States, there has been one president that was not White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant: JFK, who was in fact Catholic. Jews control the US?

 

[varsaigen]

lol The politician was pathetic. Didn't even pass his bar exam. XD any of the 6 times. XD He basically just told the super liberal school that he was liberal (true) and he got in. Pathetic politician ways. Now, if a conservative politician were to have asked the school, they would've been so quickly denied by the people controlling it (students and in charge, teachers, etc.) It's quite a pathetic position of favor. >< The guy didn't even teach the class anything. D: except his life story. :/

 

[nastyboy_44]

I had a dream that Obama can't make it till January. He's assasinated :/

 

[varsaigen]

XD Well, he'd better impress me. He hasn't done so, so far... -.-

 

[Hakeem]

Might want to wait until he's actually president.

 

[varsaigen]

well, he promises to permit the no restriction to abortion thing. ... That means people can have sex as much as they want and have the taxpayers pay for the abortion. >_>

*Varsaigen is not impressed*

 

[Arvedui]

Hilldog for Secretary of State?

Arvedui is NOT impressed.

 

[slimreb0rn]

thats right obama won

 

[varsaigen]

sadly... -.- He's going to ruin the US economy and thus harm the world's economy. -.-

 

[Hakeem]

If you were worried about the economy you'd be preaching Ron Paul.

 

[Deleted member 139377]

I am quite far left myself, yet I do not believe Obama can fix a single thing.

 

[DrazharLn]

"well, he promises to permit the no restriction to abortion thing. ... That means people can have sex as much as they want and have the taxpayers pay for the abortion. >_>"

The alternative is burdening your country with thousands of unwanted and probably ill-timed babies.

Also, how will he harm the economy, serious question, I don't see that his actions will have much of an effect unless he does something stupid like invade the middle east again.

 

[varsaigen]

giving money to small businesses and bumping up money to other groups without cutting down on spending? JUST by taxing the public? -.- that would hurt the economy... the government thinks they have unlimited money. >_>

 

[Hakeem]

He may not affect the economy much, but he certainly wont fix it, whereas Ron Paul actually knew something about what's going on to be able to do anything.

 

[varsaigen]

I completely agree with you.

 

[Deleted member 139377]

"the government thinks they have unlimited money. >_>"
THe US government in a sense, does, as well as the banks who make it out of thin air.

Now, debt isn't really something to worry about inside of a consumerist economy, because our government less determines our economy than most countries, the world needs our over indulgence, and we need the world, so thus our government gains a free ride through debt town as it constantly devalues the currency so it can slowly pay off debt in another way.
Making it worthless.
Lets say you owed 400 dollars several decades ago, you would still owe 400 dollars, but it would be the equal of having only paid back maybe 40, or 50 dollars inside of the original worth of the dollar.

Obama knows this, and most educated people do to, thus the "tax and spend" liberals are actually brilliant for the world economy, because they take advantage of this, now, nevermind the overall debt that it creates, a super power is always left to do that, make a massive debt, Rome did it, Britain did it, France did it, the USSR did it, and the US has done it also, because after a point, cheap labor can no longer support a modern economy, and inflationist devaluation must.

It is allmore complex to that, but it is true.

I would also like to take back what I said previously, I do think Obama can find rational solutions for the long term problems that plague the USA. As when you spend massive ammounts, it tends not to hit you very hard, as the devaluation of the currency and inflation insures that.

 

[Deleted member 139377]

On the topic of abortion though.

Abortions are, if I remember, in two manners, underaged girls get it for free, overaged girls pay for it.
The thing is, that also has part of our ailing health system, everything is overpriced.

 

[Hakeem]

Debt is not inevitable.

 

[varsaigen]

sadly, it's mainly the liberals who continue to spend like hell. :/

 

[Deleted member 139377]

And yet the only presidents who haven't had a deficit of 300 billion or more have been "tax and spend liberals?"
The funny thing is, most of the things said about liberals are exagerations.

Last several liberal presidents have had surpluses of 200 or more billion.
Dept has only gone down under liberal presidents since the institution of the central bank, which was backed by conservatives.
Inflation is steady when liberals are presidents.
Currency deflation tends to slow down tremendously.
Economic competition is more widespread.

Now, on another topic.

In terms of the bailout for auto makers.
I believe that focus should be first put on bailing out smaller makers and vendors before bailing out the corporations.

 

[varsaigen]

well, we ARE in a war... and countries spend lots of money to support the war... and honestly, most of the things the last 2-ish years that were blamed on Pres. Bush were actually the fualt of the US Congress. (MOST) Just thought I'd point that out since I have heard too much anti-bush-ism the last 8 years. -.-

 

[Masiah]

I heard that the money that has been invested in the Irak war so far only by America could have financiated the constructiong of a fully equipped moon base.

 

[varsaigen]

and Obama might be putting Nasa in jepordy. -.- but yeah, the US was the country pretty much leading the resistance against the terrorists. (resulting, obviously, in having to take over the Middle East to knock the terrorists out of a foothold in the world, thus crippling them of their main bases and society. XD) But it does hep the world more than it could possibly hurt... (we could have prevented 911 if one of our fighters had dropped his bomb on a bunker where Osama was hiding, but the pilot was called back to base and ordered not to destroy more. In my opinion, it would have been worth the court marshal. )

 

[Deleted member 139377]

varsaigen
well, we ARE in a war... and countries spend lots of money to support the war... and honestly, most of the things the last 2-ish years that were blamed on Pres. Bush were actually the fualt of the US Congress. (MOST) Just thought I'd point that out since I have heard too much anti-bush-ism the last 8 years. -.-

Spoken truly.


I will admit though, allot of the problems have been pushed by the Bush administration.
Going in with to few troops.
Kicking a general out of his job for saying we needed more troops before going in.
The No Child Left behind act, which I can really get at it on this one.
Invading Iraq with no probable cause.
Ignoring the problems of sub prime lending, which was a thing vetoed to confront 3 times by the Bush administration.
Cut's in state funding and massive amounts of money spent on uneeded things.
Supported torture.

Thats the most of it though, atleast for the major things.

 

[varsaigen]

we went into Iraq because he believed there were lots of chemical weapons and WoMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction). Although he never found any the first few years, soldiers unburied a stash of chem weapons. Sadly, I forgot where the article was on it D: Most likely, the weapons had been destroyed when NATO (i think) went in to check factories, etc. :/ They were turned out and never made it in, which arose suspicion.

But I can still get a laugh out of Sadam hiding in a hole when we captured him! XD

 

[Deleted member 139377]

Those "WMD's" were given to Iraq by the United States, so we could have easily suspected they still had them, but Iraq had been proven by the UN to have gotten rid of all of them. So that was more than an intelligence failure, it was a bad move in general.

 

[varsaigen]

and we got so close to elliminating the Iraq-Saddam step of the war. D:

 

[Deleted member 139377]

Sorry mate, but I always drag things into the ultra high "milk it dead" stage .

Also, check out this topic:http://diplo.ej.am/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=288&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Tell me if you think my response was adequate.

 

[Deleted member 139377]

Did this play die or somthing?

 

[HailFireer]

I joined this group se we send the world to hell!!

 

[bw59]

I love when you join a social group it asks, "Are you sure you want to join?" Let's send the world to hell, even though it is almost there.

 

[varsaigen]

lets not D: I want to see terraforming, colonizing other planets, warp drives (almost there as far as physics go! ) cloaking (VERY VERY close to becoming real! ), space warships, deep space exploration results, other races, and much more that they claim to be science fiction only D:

I can give articles on cloaking and the warp physics things So, I want to see these become reality D: So lets not send the world into further hell (As I've already welcomed the people to D

 

[bw59]

Of course I don't want to destroy Earth, only one I have. But I have researched the cloaking but not the warp physics. Isn't the cloaking a suit that reflects all light so you look like the Predator? Only thing I could relate it too haha.

 

[varsaigen]

actually, the cloaking has been able to successfully cloak everything in all the other spectrums but the one we see in. They are getting cloaser, and their trick is to bend the light waves around the object. And, they want to make it perfect, so you don't end up with a distorted image that would tip off the cloakee.

 

[bw59]

Would be nice but there are a bunch of dumb inventions I read about. Read about a t-shirt that can simulate a hug. It sends you a hug by the t-shirt and somehow, that helps society.

 

[varsaigen]

some people would need hugs throughout the day. would look weird to see it in action on other people though... plus they would need to be custom fitted. :/

 

[bw59]

Yea, I found out something today. The Assistant Director of the EPA *Environmental Protection Agency if you havn't watched The Simpsons Movie* came out and said how most of the science behind Global Warming was exaggerated and flawed. After he said that, so did a bunch of other scientists. Guess they were told to keep their mouth shut and were threatened to.

 

[varsaigen]

yes, they were threatened with their carreers if they did not play their part D: Most scientists already leaked that they did not agree with the claims it was all a massive scandel to ge more money wasted on "protecting the earth"... Thing is, the Enviromentalist groups' goals will ultimately send us all back to the Stone Age! D: They think humans are a plague to the Earth. A virus that must be destroyed D: Yet I know that once they get what they want... they will be fighting for their own survival just like all those they dragged with them -.-

 

[bw59]

Yea, I went to a university to visit and a professor there said most scientists agree with global warming and the corperations try to keep us in the dark. He had a PhD too...

 

[Tyrlop]

I joined this group to bra... I mean teach you about communism and all its skills, deeds and abilities.

 

[Verhalthur]

The only fault with communism in my opinion is that the people want the general, the leader of the revolution, to lead them after the conversion. History has shown that military leaders tend not to be good political leaders.