Phoenix Trial #1 - Poll

Daelin · Mar 20, 2007

And another wonderful competition has reached its deadline here at Hive Workshop. I have to admit that I did not expect so many submissions in such a short time. I find Phoenix Trial a complete success. However, the contest is not yet, as it's time for you to vote. Be careful for who you vote, as the percentage of votes will count in determining the final mark (50% of it actually!!!). Moreover, as I trust the community so much, I shall take into consideration for the final prize only the top 5 entries!

Below, there is a table with all the icons. Each contestant was given 3 chances to impress you with his/her art. This doesn't mean that contestants who submitted two or even only one icon are worst than the others. Through your vote, you should mention the following:
1. The contestant
2. The icon you liked most - this is not a pack contest. Do not vote because as a whole the three icons looked better than a single one. Multiple chances are allowed to actually give the author the opportunity to express him/herself in the way he/she feels like. Therefore, not every has to like the same icon for an author to have the most votes.
3. Reason for your vote. Reasons are very important. And don't just say "because it's pretty".

Due to the elements above, the "Votes" table shall be manually updated (besides, the forum allows only up to 10 options per poll :wink:

).

And remember, the vote counts only as 50% from the total mark, but the top five contestants go to the next "stage".

Note: Contestants are also allowed to vote, but not for their own icons. You may say "why should I vote as it doesn't help me one bit?". True! But you are also members of the community so it would be very nice to do so. After all, may the best win.

Contestant	Icon #1	Icon #2	Icon #3
Dalaran_Guard	Mirror of Antiquity	Foresight	Reflection
BlackDoom	Ambush	Uncanny Perception	Mesmerize
Heero	Reflect Light	Reflect Spell	Shield of Reflection
Technomancer	Broken Mirror	---------	---------
HappyTauren	Alien Baby Triple Mask	---------	---------
Odin	Rune of Reflection	Magic Cauldron	---------
Werewulf	Demon Mirror	Demon Gaze	Beetle Queen Mirror
Gromhellscream666	Reflection of Fire	---------	---------
Chaos	Shell	Mirror Shield	Reflection
Camel’s hump	Premonition	Protective Reflection	Beacon of Light
brad.dude03	Icon #1	---------	---------
Chriz	Frightening Reality	Frightening Change	Vanity
Herio-San	Phoenix Tears	---------	---------

Votes

Contestant	Votes
Dalaran_Guard	1
BlackDoom	2
Heero	1
Technomancer	0
HappyTauren	0
Odin	0
Werewulf	11
Gromhellscream666	0
Chaos	2
Camel's Hump	2
brad.dude03	0
Chriz	8
Herio-San	0

Good luck everybody & happy voting to the community.

Deadline: 1st of April 2007 (0:00 AM, GMT).

Deleted member 126647 · Mar 20, 2007

Wow, great turnout.

I'll figure out who I vote for .

Chaos · Mar 20, 2007

Yes it'll take time to choose the best. Couldn't you show up all the images instead of their links, or is there a limit of pictures in one thread ? If so create a screenshot of all of them, it'll make it a lot easier to compare them all without opening 20 tabs for them ?

Chaos

burned · Mar 20, 2007

Chaos said:
Yes it'll take time to choose the best. Couldn't you show up all the images instead of their links, or is there a limit of pictures in one thread ? If so create a screenshot of all of them, it'll make it a lot easier to compare them all without opening 20 tabs for them ?

Chaos

Agreed...learn [img.][/img] xD

Anyway i vote for:
Chriz - Icon#2 - Frightening Change

its very cool.

Daelin · Mar 20, 2007

Good luck with making those images work with [img.] [/img]. Don't think I didn't try it... only for two people worked. All the rest were just links as they are attachments and do not have image extension. and I'm not going to spend all my night to post this thread by attaching the icons... give it another try. I'm not as stupid as you think I am.

Same chaos... I spent a lot with the table anyway. Don't make me change things now please. Maybe next time. You're only opening them once anyway.

~Daelin

1)ark_NiTe · Mar 20, 2007

It is tough to choose between Werewulf's "Beetle Queen" and Chriz's "Frightening Change", but I think I'm going to have to go with Chriz on this one.

My Vote: "Frightening Change" by Chriz.

olofmoleman · Mar 20, 2007

My vote goes to wulf's Demon Gaze.

The icon doesn't seem that specific, but that's what makes it useful.

Technomancer · Mar 20, 2007

A very tough choice from a bunch of great icons. Very tough to choose. However, my vote goes to: Werewulf's "Beetle Queens Mirror".
Reasons I am voting for this icon is it looks like it would easily fit with the other warcraft 3 icons, it looks like it has depth to it (it looks like the border is over the actual thing, not that the border is sitting on the top of a picture), the colours work well, I like the reflection of the eyes in the mirror, and various other small things.

camel's_hump · Mar 20, 2007

Frightening Reality by Chriz.

Edit by Daelin: Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

Xarwin · Mar 20, 2007

I'm still thinking.
Basing it on the judging which Daelin said.
- Creativity. The icon idea is pretty important.
-> A mirror is a simple idea for reflection, I will seek an advanced idea.
(sorry for all those that have a mirror)
- Blizzard feeling. Make the icon in such a manner that it can be implemented in a Warcraft map and goes well with the other blizzard icons.
-> I will be looking also to this, if the icon should fit well with the blizzard's ones.
- Technical Note. The quality of the icon is the most important thing. Try to keep it detailed yet clear (throwing a lot of elements in a 64x64 image will most of the time look crowded).
-> This is an important part, I need to be sure what I see in the icon.
-> This is also another important part for to the 'Blizzard Feeling' because a too detailed icon/3d icon isn't really blizz-like.
So I'm still thinking... I'll download the ones I like, and test them in a map to see which ones fit the best.

~- Heero

Deleted member 126647 · Mar 20, 2007

The few favorites I had were as follows.

Magic Cauldron.

Beetle Queen's Mirror.

Reflective Protection.

I chose camel's_hump's Protective reflection, because it is simple, not too over done, and that would make it useful. I like the texture of the fog, and the color as well. The lighting on the lightning is very bright, which enhances the effect.

All in all a really nice icon.

So: camel's_hump - Protective Reflection.

Edit by Daelin: Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

HappyTauren · Mar 20, 2007

Werewulf - beetle queen mirror

it looks very warcrafty, borders are toned down good way,icon itself could even fit wow. Very high quality and nice concept.

Odin · Mar 20, 2007

tricky one...

well i have to go with camel's_hump's Protective reflection, couse it looks both warcrafty and usefull, also the quality is good and as Chriz said: not too over done

Dalaran_Guard · Mar 20, 2007

Well, all of them are good, but I am going to have to go with Werewulf's Beetle Queen Mirror. It looks really great, and it goes well with the blizzard icons. Great job!

BlackDoom · Mar 20, 2007

The Magic Cauldron would have been my choice... yet it needs some more work (the water seems too flat and perpendicular on the view axis... the ripples would have looked better if following ellipses not circles... the finger should have been fading towards the edge of the cauldron...).

My vote goes for Werewulf's Demon Mirror.

I like it because it has a nice W3 feeling and the atmosphere it produces is well related to its name, without being overestimated. Furthermore, it respects the requirements of the contest in the first place - reflection and so on...
Good job, Wulfy!.

brad.dude03 · Mar 20, 2007

Lol, my icon shouldn't even be up there... my vote goes to Chriz. Very original icons and I like your style of drawing

Frightening Change has my vote

EviL_BuddhA · Mar 21, 2007

My vote goes to werewulfs beetle queen mirror it just looks so so wc3 ish...

Edited by Daelin: Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

xXMephistoXx · Mar 21, 2007

This was indeed a difficult vote, so many great submissions, I really like Werewulfs, she's great at icons 'n' skins 'n' stuff.

But my vote goes to Black Dooms "Uncanny Perception" BTN.

Ok, really didn't see Daelins edit over here, dunno if that means that I can't vote...

Edit by Daelin: Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

Daelin · Mar 21, 2007

Those signs are just made for myself, so that I know down to which post I've taken the votes into consideration. Nothing else. People can vote until the deadline, which shall not change.

Keep up with the voting guys. This is going to be great.

-Daelin

Whisperwind Archer · Mar 21, 2007

I'll vote for Werewulf's Beetle Queen Mirror.

Amnesty · Mar 22, 2007

It was between dalran guards mirror of antiquity and frightening reality by chriz but i have to vote for dalaran guard. I really liked his/her icon concepts for the first two entries

Gauntlet2021 · Mar 22, 2007

My vote's for Wolfy for the Demon Gaze and that Beetle Queen Mirror, but wow there's some nice icons up there.

Piranha · Mar 22, 2007

vote goes to werwulf! all three icons are useful, wc3ish and perfectly fit the reflection theme

Berethor · Mar 22, 2007

Those icons are nice, but i vote for Chaos, i like the shield icon

Chaos · Mar 22, 2007

There is no way to win against that skilled challengers, Werewulf, Chriz., camel_hump made me feel like a totally beginner in that content, I am btw ... finally my vote goes to Chriz. and Frightening Reality, it fits best into the warcraft theme, and he did a great job, looks to me very warcraft stylish, no offence to the other ones, your are great too.

My vote: Chriz. - Frightening Reality

Chaos

Edit by Daelin: Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

Xarwin · Mar 22, 2007

There are much icons here, but the only ones I found that are fitting in warcraft 3 are those from Chriz. .

He is using a mirror, but with some nice variation.
The graphics are fitting perfectly into wacraft 3.
Frightening Change is the best icon that may fit in warcraft 3.

I saw much votes going to Werewulf, they are good as well but they just won't fit in warcraft 3.

Great work Chriz. !

Mechanical Man · Mar 22, 2007

To vote is need just a post, right?

Then I will vote for Shell by Chaos. :thumbs_up:

Daelin · Mar 22, 2007

Normally reasoning is required, and it's quite a pity that not many have followed my advice, though I specifically mentioned in the first post that "3. Reason for your vote. Reasons are very important. And don't just say "because it's pretty"." I hope this won't happen in the future voting sessions.

Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

~Daelin

camel's_hump · Mar 22, 2007

Fine then, you want reasoning, eh? Well here's my reason; because it looks cool

Radagast · Mar 22, 2007

I vote for Heero Icon #3

wyrmlord · Mar 25, 2007

Chriz's Frightening Change receives my vote. This icon seems to fit into Wc3 very well. This icon also clearly shows what it represents without the need for words. I must also say I really like the sheep in the reflection, which drew my attention more than any other icon.

Gauntlet2021 · Mar 25, 2007

"My vote's for Wolfy for the Demon Gaze and that Beetle Queen Mirror"
My reason is since they would work well with a lot of different abilities/items etc and seem to fit right in with the style of icons I try to use.

Edit by Daelin: Votes taken into consideration down to this post.

Chaos · Mar 29, 2007

I bet most voter just saw the name and voted for the guys who is most famous around the community, even without taking a look into all of them.

No offence, but that's the feeling I get of these votings and past ones.

Seems like Werewulf is gonna win this one, grats and well done.

Chaos

Deleted member 126647 · Mar 29, 2007

Well I apologize for being a moderator and entering a contest. I suppose we shouldn't be allowed to enter due to our title?

Or did you think maybe it's possible that Werewulf actually does produce good work?

brad.dude03 · Mar 29, 2007

Chaos said:
I bet most voter just saw the name and voted for the guys who is most famous around the community, even without taking a look into all of them.

Absolutely not true. You know why? I'm HELLA famous, and I have 0 votes. Thus completely disproving your theory.

Whoops, there goes the ego again... kidding, but it made for a good joke.

Regardless, I don't think so at all, there are plenty of lesser known members that are competing and doing a good job, but when it comes down to it, it's all talent and how good it looks...

Dalaran_Guard · Mar 29, 2007

brad.dude03 said:
Regardless, I don't think so at all, there are plenty of lesser known members that are competing and doing a good job, but when it comes down to it, it's all talent and how good it looks...

I agree with Brad. Yes, the well-known members are doing better than many newer members, but in most cases the old members are more experienced and skilled. You surely can't expect new, inexperienced members to do better than members that have been going at this kind of stuff for years. Anyway, that's my two cent's worth...

BlackDoom · Mar 29, 2007

1) Notice that there are not so many voters. This should concern us more than what you have previously posted.

2) Talent can beat the crap out of experience. And reverse. So they should not be taken into account when evaluating a piece of art.

Anything else?

Wolverabid · Mar 30, 2007

Voting Ethics

[off-topic] Just to remind everyone to maintain an impeachable level of integrity and to use their ballots wisely:

Wolverabid said:
[off-topic] I strongly encourage everyone NOT to view the poll results, read the posts in voting threads (except for this one lol) or listen to any smalltalk about polls before they have exercised their own vote.

Just D/L the resources, test them the best that you can and make your own decision based on your own results. THEN post in the thread and THEN vote. (JMO)

[highlight]Our decisions MUST be based on (our opinions of) the substance of the matter: the quality of those resources in question, NOT ANY OTHER mitigating or qualifying irrelevancies![/code]

Chaos · Mar 30, 2007

Wolverabid said:
[off-topic] Just to remind everyone to maintain an impeachable level of integrity and to use their ballots wisely:

[highlight]Our decisions MUST be based on (our opinions of) the substance of the matter: the quality of those resources in question, NOT ANY OTHER mitigating or qualifying irrelevancies![/code]

None is following this :eekani:

And I did not mean that the famous and older member of this community aren't skilled, they got a lot more experienced and so they are great of what they are doing, and I do not want to attack any moderator of any section, because they got their titles not for free, so you misunderstood, but I just want to show you my point of view.

Chaos

xXm0RpH3usXx · Mar 31, 2007

chriz.'s frightening change, i do love the sheep^^

boomwolf · Mar 31, 2007

well...i go for wulfy's demon gaze...

i always seem to like wulfy's works best...at modeling too...(maybe it was because he made gnolls?)

also-only when i attempted to register i realized you took wc3sear's user list!
and i was a "view only" so long because i didnt have the energy to register...

Wolverabid · Mar 31, 2007

Phoenix Trial #1

Congratulations to ALL the contestants for their fine submissions. Regardless of which competitor emerges victorious in this challenge the real winners are we resource consumers who will reap the benefits from our editors' hard work. My evaluation of (my favorite) entries stands as follows.

Chaos

Shell

This icon is my favorite in terms of pure looks: it's gorgeous.

Werewulf

Demon Gaze

Brilliant, simply brilliant.

Chriz.

Frightening Change

For genuine artistic quality this icon stand, at the top.

camel's_hump

Protective Reflection

This icon is the most "war3 like" it may be the most useful of the lot.

Odin

Rune of Reflection

Another very useful Warcraft III icon.

BlackDoom

Ambush

This is a very creative and unusual icon.

The icons are all good: I have not mentioned ALL of them (no slight intended). Making a clear cut definitive judgment in this poll was was rather difficult. The theme of the contest was extremely challenging as was meeting those requirements. I therefore cast my ballot on that basis in favor of Ambush by BlackDoom

Meeting the challenge - Ambush reflects the wielder's vision in the weapon.
Uniqueness - This icon is very unusual.
Creativity - Ambush reflects a great deal of "thinking outside the box."

I hope that all the contestants who have yet to do so will convert their WIPs into .blp files and submit them to The Hive's Icon resource section. Werewulf and I will then see to their approval ASAP. Good job everyone!

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