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That you don't like reputation does not mean other people don't like it you know.
In my opinion, if you don't care about reputation then just don't care and not make a fuss about it. xD

Besides only new people or people that only do stuf for rep will judge people by the amount of rep they have, the more professional people wont even look at the amount of rep and help others non the less.
They will listen to everybody etc.

So what's the real problem here? U just don't want others to see your reputation?
Don't make a fuss about something you don't care about. :p

(And that's just my opinion. xD)
 
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That you don't like reputation does not mean other people don't like it you know.

Ok? They can keep their rep displayed.


In my opinion, if you don't care about reputation then just don't care and not make a fuss about it. xD

Besides only new people or people that only do stuf for rep will judge people by the amount of rep they have, the more professional people wont even look at the amount of rep and help others non the less.
They will listen to everybody etc.

I do care, about not showing it. Because I think the system is flawed and all that bullshit about "people don't judge" by rep is bullshit. What site have you been going to?


So what's the real problem here? U just don't want others to see your reputation?
Don't make a fuss about something you don't care about. :p

The reputation system is the problem, but people are so clung on to it they wont let it go. Me, not displaying my rep, is my silent protest against the flawed and stupid system where you gain respect by being a "lol^__^ fur fag or some other cute shit", getting rep for the heck of it seems popular enough. People in chat going "plz help me get blue gem!"

I'm not going to do either, I'm going to raise my post count to 999999 posting a useful post in every possible thread. Sure, why not?

And then there will be cake
 
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It doesn't matter. Let's face it, rep is a judge of social standing. That's just how it works. If people like you, they give you rep. The more they like you, they more you'll get.

People use the arguement that if someone new worth knowing joins, they wont have any rep, thus the system is flawed. Wrong. If they're really worth noticing they'll start getting rep fast.

That's just how it works, you can't change how people percieve the system.
 
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Haha then people will get a lot less rep, lot of mods(no offense) Are pretty picky and sometimes will abuse things... Not pointing fingers. Mods can then just rep there friends and neg rep people that don't like for stupid things. I the rep was a kind of rank, and it was set up right then sure.
 
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i think rep doesn't really matter so why continue to argue? if it were up to me rep would be hideable but it isn't up to me, and that's what really matters, you really can't do much about it but tell ralle in which case you might as well just PM him and not make people waste they're time reading yet another 'no rep' thread. but as far as my oppinion goes a forum is fine without rep is just as good as one with it, its just an add on, sometimes its good other times not so good but that is the nature of the world, its not like anything is absolutely good or bad.
 
Dudes. Why does it seem that nobody reads brad's post? Reputation doesn't tell how good you are in something. It doesn't tell how "pr0" you are. It doesn't even tell how long you've been here. It is a social standing. If you are a lulzy person, you get rep. "OMG REP FOR JOKEZ BRN DA WITCH!!!11" Well now I ask you. What means more to you: A good laugh (which is proven to be HEALTHY!) or some pretty picture? Now, when someone whores 800+ rep on a gallery (like I did) it ain't that odd.
 
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Well, the thing is, people hand out +rep for just anything. And from what I can tell, a lot of people base the worth of your comments on the rep you have. Rep != knowledge and helpfulness; a lot of rep is given for "lawls" and not helpfulness (as HappyTauren has already mentioned).

A good amount of people who are in need of help on the request forums and/or the world editor help forums are people who have no rep; this means, helping them out doesn't give you rep. That doesn't mean you shouldn't help them just because of that.

I believe SteelStallion has a point; people should be allowed to hide their rep if they so choose.
 
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I don't see the truth in that statement. As previously said, it's sort of a popularity thing. It doesn't really seem to do with your knowledge. A lot of +rep is given out purely on the basis of enjoying someone's product or comment, which has nothing to do with knowledge.
 
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With the exception of most the moderators who are knowledgeable, rep on 'The Hive' is nowhere near the definition of what it should be. Instead of a reassurance that the person is well versed, or that they give good advice, it is a display of how nice, or uncritical a person is towards others, which is by no means an accurate judge of one's character, or ability.

Since I've been a member, the only people getting actual rep have either been moderators getting their butts kissed, or people who spam a lot and don't really contribute, but generally say nice things to everyone regardless of the quality or accuracy of what they are saying.

I would rather get negative rep for being a contributing member of the hive, picking at all the bad posters and bad suggestions/etc, than resort to puckering up for an extra shiny little gem next to my name, unlike the gross majority of the active membership here.
 
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Reputation fulfills just the role that its name implies. It's someone's popularity on this site; one's reputation, if you will. It's not always accurate, but I won't start acting surprised when someone with a red gem starts babbling incoherently and lashing out at mods.

You're damn straight people judge by rep, and it's become sort of a no-shitter that the system is flawed. But some magical fairy seems to carry all the LOLrep to most of the respectable people on the site, with a few mistakes here and there.
 
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Despite what people may or may not think I would still like to go for an option to take off the little gems from under my name.

I'm not a lolzy person and I don't draw gay chibiz or some other bullshit that people whore rep with (No offense).

There's a difference between what people see it as, and what it actually is. What MSBB says is what it is, but when you post, a lot of people aren't going to think about "Oh, this guy is just popular but he might not be the right person to ask." or "This guy has no rep, he must be pretty fucking stupid and not helpful at all."

Something like that, I don't know how else to explain it.
 
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There's a difference between what people see it as, and what it actually is. What MSBB says is what it is, but when you post, a lot of people aren't going to think about "Oh, this guy is just popular but he might not be the right person to ask." or "This guy has no rep, he must be pretty fucking stupid and not helpful at all."

Something like that, I don't know how else to explain it.

Lol, thats 100% not true... bad arguments you have there.. xD

- Most people (including me) help people even if they don't have any rep.
You wont help people because you'll get a reward u help people because they need help and u can give it.

- One more time, only tards will look at rep to judge people if they are helpfull or not.

- In the real life u also get 'reputation' for being a funny person so what does it mather u get it here aswell? It's just to see if the person is popular or not.

- Only people that have something to hide want to hide their reputation, aka people with negative rep will hide it (not that I care).
So I agree with Septimus on that one.

Like, cmon! Why do you want to hide your rep so badly?
You think you don't have enough compared to other so you want to hide it?
You just hate or get iritated by rotating gems? (That's not healthy.)
You don't want people to rate ur posts by the amount of reputation you have? (And that's rather stupid since only 1 out of 10 people do it and most of the times they are 'newbs' anyway.)

It does not have any effect on the hiveworkshop really, it's a bit useless to implent.. xD (In my opinion.
(If u really want to hide your reputation give as at least a few arguments why it's good for the hiveworkshop. :p)
 
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I myself don't care much about rep, not that I have any to care about. But I do know its very abused, and very judgemental. The ones who can't make models, icons, or skins dont get rep, since I suck at art, Its hard to get rep

Off Topic: I also think The Hive should put in a music tab, where people could make and export custom music, thats just a idea however.
 
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And from what I can tell, a lot of people base the worth of your comments on the rep you have.
From what I can tell, citing myself as a reference, and following the logic in my sig, people judge you more by your usage of a keyboard than the amount of shiny spinny gems under your name.
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Hakeem said:
than the amount of shiny spinny gems under your name
But they certainly don't hurt anything! :)

Truth be told, I don't like rep. It gives the wrong motivational impression to users. They think you're helping out for rep, or that you're submitting resources for rep, or any number of things for rep. I don't do any of that stuff for rep (not that this matters at the hive for me, but bear with me), so I would much rather have the option to turn it off as a statement that it holds no sway over me. To be perfectly fair, though, I don't care enough to pester Ralle to make such an option, but I wouldn't be averse to having one in the event it magickally popped up.
 
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Hi, I'm not helpful at all and have you SEEN my rep? Never made a gallery in my life either.
But you have been around ever since it began.
And let's admit... your Jesus avatar was the cause!

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Truth be told, I don't like rep. It gives the wrong motivational impression to users. They think you're helping out for rep, or that you're submitting resources for rep, or any number of things for rep. (...)
That is totally right.
 
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But you have been around ever since it began.
And let's admit... your Jesus avatar was the cause!
Then what about me?
From what I can tell, citing myself as a reference, and following the logic in my sig, people judge you more by your usage of a keyboard than the amount of shiny spinny gems under your name.
I most certainly judge people by their proficiency in English. There are many times in which English isn't their first language. But an even larger amount of times when it is, and they are just being lazy/childish/stupid.

If you have a lot of rep, chances are, many people have already heard of you, and can form an opinion as to whether or not you are an asshole, regardless of rep.
 
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Facepunch Studios (Forums) has a nice system. Instead of just "+rep", you can do +agree, +informative, +helpful, +funny, +bad spelling, etc. So you can tell if a user's reputable for being funny, helpful, or whatever.
That's actually not a bad idea. Having multiple different kinds of rep and -rep to contribute to the overall value seems pretty nice.

I also lol'd when I went to a profile, clicked one of the rep categories, and clicked another while the first was still loading, resulting in a message that said "One at a time you shitbag".
 
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well you've got guys like TDB who has contributed little things but has always been an off-topic junkie but he has rep cause he does some pretty hilarious stuff..

so yes.. I guess the rep shows your social standing here; rather than how helpful you've been
(oh and I mean no offense to TDB; I just used him for example)

I don't care too much about rep but ;when ever I do see a guy who requests and has a red diamond(negative rep); I normally look down upon him and I really just tend to ignore it
 
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From what I can tell, citing myself as a reference, and following the logic in my sig, people judge you more by your usage of a keyboard than the amount of shiny spinny gems under your name.
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/shrug

Shiny gems are shiny. What can I say. It is what it is. I mean, I'd agree with you if your statement was completely true. I myself would always rather base a person's comment on the content rather than gems.
 
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