(New) Raw Tech-Tree Contest

[Gausslander]

Who ever said we weren't mortal enemies?

And I'm looking forward to getting this hosted soon... any way of getting that done mod buddies?

 

[Ghost765]

yah, or else we'll have to lengthen the time since schools gonna start for some of us.

 

[JanSze]

well school started 2 weeks ago already for me and many other europenas. :/

I'm looking forward to get this hosted, too!

The only thing that's a bit silly is that we can't use any model from another race! Could we use a model that is used by the race we modify?

 

[Ghost765]

no that is stated in the rules. school starts for me on monday.

 

[Kwah]

Well, I might not join. .. but it looks like a awsome contest.

The only reason is that techtrees get on mah nerves.

 

[Gausslander]

I have sent a private message to Ghan_04 to get this hosted, I'm expecting a reply from him shortly. I have PurplePoot to thank for helping me with this contest.

 

[Ghost765]

hurray!

 

[JanSze]

anything new Scyth-master?

 

[Gausslander]

Awaiting a response... expect something in the next few days.

EDIT: Anyone willing to make a logo for the contest?

 

[Ghost765]

its been more than a few days now.

 

[Gausslander]

The arena works slowly.

 

[JanSze]

very slowly >.<
Couldn't you send it so someone else?

 

[Ghost765]

too slowly. if we do get this show on the road, can u make the deadline abit long since some of us have school/RL to deal with?

 

[Gausslander]

Well, I guess we can all say I tried.

 

[Ghost765]

oh bother.

said pooh and then hid piglets body.

 

[Hawkwing]

This contest has potential, but this is a big competition and will most likely require a team. Also, this is quite similar to the Hive Olympics, though it is much bigger.

 

[PurplePoot]

Eh, techtrees are actually less work than they're made out to be, and techtree contests have been done several times before with only one person doing each submission.

However, it's a good point that this and the Hive Olympics wouldn't mix well.

 

[Hawkwing]

If the Hive Olympics get hosted, which I plan to do, this contest will be postponed until after. I will ask further questions then.

 

[Gausslander]

This contest was proposed first, I don't see the point in hosting that one before this one.

 

[Hawkwing]

We need to have the Hive Olympics near the time of the real Olympics, and those have already concluded. But I can assure you this will come.

 

[donut3.5]

This contest was proposed first, I don't see the point in hosting that one before this one.

That one was far more popular, it seemed.
--donut3.5--

 

[Gausslander]

Far more? It only has 8 more replies and less views. Why should that change their production dates?

 

[donut3.5]

Oh, didn't look at the page views/post count. I was just talking about run of the mill discussion. Hive Olympics has been discussed more, and seemed more concrete overall.
But don't worry, as both will be hosted.
--donut3.5--

 

[Ghost765]

excellent.

 

[JanSze]

these are good news donut

 

[Gausslander]

It would be, if the race expansion contest ended before the Mayan apocalypse in 2012.

 

[Hawkwing]

I'll host it after the Hive Olympics conclude.

 

[Artins the Great]

Wait, How about heros, How many should there be?

 

[JanSze]

Hmmm you could make a race with heroes only if they're balanced. You can make only 1 hero. But IMO you should make 4 like the other races have, too

 

[Ghost765]

hell, ima import spells just for the sake of a nice race.

 

[Gausslander]

Hmmm you could make a race with heroes only if they're balanced. You can make only 1 hero. But IMO you should make 4 like the other races have, too

YOU HAVE TO MAKE 4!

Else it wouldn't be a race, would it?

hell, ima import spells just for the sake of a nice race.

Have fun being disqualified.

 

[JanSze]

If we are free to do everything we want to we could make a race with only 1 but very powerfull hero, couldn't we? If you don't agree, please make it a rule to have 4 heroes!

 

[Gausslander]

I just assumed you people would regard hero as unit... rules changed.

 

[JanSze]

uh yeah. I didn't read this rule so yeah. I would have regarded heroes as units Sry for that. But so it's more clearly

 

[Ghost765]

i fail to see where it says ill be disqualified if i import spells.

 

[Gausslander]

Check again.

 

[Ghost765]

nifty little edit there.

 

[AirHead]

hmm, i like the idea but i got a question (bare in mind that i only read first two pages than got bored) why just already on the hive? there arent enough worthwhile draenei models if you wanted to make that or well buildings that would fit one race, unless you simly took the building set from a map that a person made for that map, in which case you are not being creative simply stealing that persons ideas. i purpose that modeling skinning and jassing are alowed because if you are infact better than tanother person because you can actually construct a whole race from scratch than you deserve to win, however that would end with a lot of people angry because they don't have a tool to model with, or skin with, maybe we could simply limit the available tools and link people to them in FP like oinkerwinkles tools so we can geomerge and things like that, warforger to animate and edit geometry (if not in oinkerwinkles) and then Magos' so we can add particles and bam you have a perfectly fair way of doing it even if there is no scratch modeling.

 

[Hawkwing]

Okay, it's settled.

Planned Contest Start Date: 10/20/08

• 3 days after the conclusion of the Hive Olympics.

 

[Ghost765]

can we like stop changing the rules? its kinda hard to follow.

 

[Hawkwing]

What are you talking about?

 

[Just_Spectating]

so is this like a tech-tree contest except, uh, you cant use any models in the race or something?

the rules are kind of hard to follow.


sounds to me like just another tech-tree contest

 

[Hawkwing]

so is this like a tech-tree contest except, uh, you cant use any models in the race or something?

the rules are kind of hard to follow.


sounds to me like just another tech-tree contest

It is.

You may not use models that are used by the current 4 races. For example, you can't make a race with Ghouls, when the Undead already have Ghouls.

Anyways, I have some questions about the rules:

• Your tech-tree must have a number equal to or greater than the amount of buildings, units and heroes in any of the original four races.

The amount per race really changes from race to race. You should put a max and minimum of each category.

• You may only use resources that are hosted on the hive workshop, wc3campaigns, or xgm.ru.

I find this a bit unnecessary.

• You may not use ripped resources. That includes: icons, skins, and models.

This would go under a rule which will be added in the official version. "No submissions may break any of the Hive Workshop's rule as written by the Webmaster himself."

• You can make custom triggered spells, but the coding will be excluded from the official judging. The effect and originality of the spell, however, will be included in it.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Ghost765]

i was referring to scyth changing the rules every now and then.

 

[Hawkwing]

Ah, okay. Anyways, it was very unclear that when I showed the "Official Start Date" I was saying that if this is hosted then that is when the planned date is set to be. I'm still looking over the rules, something could change any time.

 

[Just_Spectating]

so you cant make a naga race because it is pretty much already one?

(how can we make a race if most of the neutral units only come with 2-3 different varieties of each :/)

 

[Hawkwing]

I honestly don't think models should be mandatory. For all I care you can use the Error Box for everything, as long as there is some nice coding and spells.

 

[Gausslander]

i was referring to scyth changing the rules every now and then.

I haven't even viewed this thread in over two weeks, how would I be changing the rules?

And to answer (mod's) questions, that means a minimum of any of the 4 race's buildings and heroes. It's mostly because of the user that is complaining that I change the rules to much, that I have in fact, changed the rules for (at his request -.-).

It has been requested (not my choice) to only use those three websites to be the places that you can get your resources from, and it has also been requested that you cannot use RIPS, and some of the models submitted here are still, in fact, partly rips.

 

[Martin Barbov]

So we cannot use race models. But can we use race campaign models(kile bloodelf captain or batleships). It sounds like all buildings will use doodads models (that lack death animations). And is triggering allowed for anything more than spells(like custom events, doodad model removal )

 

[Ghost765]

yah, i think we should use triggers to limit the amount of some units, like have a maximum of 3 captains or something.

but if the scoring is based on coding/spells, some people will be automatically dismissed in the final scoring since they dont really know jass, or if they just suck at making trigger spells. and since importing spells also goes for auto-disqualify.
Scyth, im just saying the rules have changed so much, its kinda hard to follow.