If you could remove a negative emotion...

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I'd remove anger.
It only clouds your judgement.

Insofar fear is concerned, I'd keep it even if I had the choice to get rid of it, in addition to anger.
Fear is a natural evolutionary response to stimulus that warns us of imminent danger.
 
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Well I wouldn't remove fear because than I would be like those idiots who jump off buildings for fun

I would want to remove anxiety, I don't think there is any use for an emotion like that

I can agree with that.
 
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Ouh, I read emoticon..

For me it would be sadness or anxiety.
Sadness, because our world is full of suffering, pain and injustices and none really cares
Anxiety, because it is just an annoying emotion that hinders one doing what you would like to
and achieving dreams and aims.
 
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let's make this interesting

what emotions would you like to have added, those emotions that are not often had

like for example
empathy
fortuitousness
intuition
...

and Some other made up emotions
 
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I would remove Greediness, it happens in every whole internet.
  • YouTube - As a starter youtuber, adding like "Like and Subscribe for more!" or similar to that is kinda a bad move as they mimic themselves like the rest of the famous youtubers. Even for clickbait as a view whores.
  • Facebook - Similar to YouTube, Like is a main thing that the people wants and even comments. Like this, "Type Amen if you loved Jesus." or "Like if you see it!" or etc. It's like a place where lazy people wants to go for fame if they're not there for society.
  • Money - Seriously? Why would Money be more important than your life? Criminals and Murdurers do their jobs for money like really? Even a greedy boss do his/her job for money than the rest of his/her company and employees. Donating a money for charity is a good thing but why most of the people kept their money instead?

I guess the only way to do this is to do it right with your talents. Not the way being as a copycat.
 
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I would remove Greediness, it happens in every whole internet.

I wouldn't really remove that from myself because I'm not greedy at all, but that's definately something to be removed from society. Because of that people do stuff far worse than clickbaits.

I think I'd remove laziness. The other feelings are okay, I always find a way of getting around them, but laziness... it is a bitch.
 
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I don't think laziness is an emotion; it's just a result of other emotions (boredom, for example, if you know doing your HW will not amuse you)
And how on Earth love became a negative feeling? The feeling itself is nice, it might just cloud your thoughts. Despite that, I wouldn't classify it as a negative feeling.
 
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wow you people are all super lazy

I guess we don't have that problem here because the lazy are shunned to death.

if I wanted an additional emotion added to my character, I would like to have inspiration to bolster my ambitions. that way there would be no need for sleep
 
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Book of Chobibo

And I said unto them; "If you remove one negative emotion, you risk also a positive."

2. He continued, saying unto them; "For I have learned to love butthurt, and in butthurt I rejoice. Take it away and I am undone."

3. And they, disgusted upon such revelation, said unto him; "Chobibo, you are sickest as fuck." he then faced them, grinned and replied: "I am that I am. Whosoever disliketh it, I give not a fuck."

4. "Is it not like unto the coffee? For man does not like it upon his childhood but grows to like it unto his journey to adulthood? Does not the tongue grow to like the taste of fish paste when his hunger is extreme?"

5. Surprised, they murmured and replied; "This be true, but the fact you are sick still holds truth."

6. And the masses picked stone and threw it at him, and he was stoned.

Jacob.jpg
 
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As Bo said, most emotions, or rather all of them, has a primal defensive function.
Considering that, I wouldn't really want to remove any of them, but if I had to choose
one, it'd be hatred. Not that it would change me in any meaningful ways, I'm already
a very peaceful and non-hostile person.

I'd like to take a moment to challenge some of the statements thus far:

I'd remove anger. I dont always get vexed easily but when I do, i tend to keep my vexation to myself.

Anger is an emotion that is triggered when our personal values are threatened, it's a
defense against impunity, a motivator to see injustice corrected and a defense
mechanism against mortal danger. Would you really want to remove that?

I would want to remove anxiety, I don't think there is any use for an emotion like that

Quite on the contrary, anxiety is a very useful emotion, although it can be extremely
bothersome at times. Anxiety is the emotion that keep you on your toes, the emotion
that make you behave while around others, an emotion that makes you perform well
in situations you don't like, an emotion that keeps you alert when in a dangerous
situation. I sure as shit would not be without that.

Sadness, because our world is full of suffering, pain and injustices and none really cares

And our world is also filled with wonder, happiness and justice, and very many
people care. What you're saying here, though, is that in effect you want to become one
of those people that don't care. Because if you remove the ability to feel sadness, you
wouldn't feel sympathy either, you wouldn't be able to relate to other people's suffering.
And if you can't relate to it, you won't care about it, because you won't understand their
suffering. Furthermore: If you didn't know sadness, you wouldn't know happiness, you'd
simply be an apathetic person. Is this really what you want?

I would like to get crippleling depression removed. Just so that it may never return again.

In many ways, what I said about sadness applies here too, only more directed toward
yourself: Without depression, and don't you mind the prefix "crippling", you wouldn't
appreciate elation, you wouldn't know true happiness. Because there'd be nothing for
you to compare it to, no emotional state that would make any moment better than
another. You, too, would become apathetic.

Greed and Laziness aren't emotions as I see it, they're either, as SF stated, a combination
of other emotions, or a way of living. (Especially laziness).
 

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(...) Because if you remove the ability to feel sadness, you
wouldn't feel sympathy either, you wouldn't be able to relate to other people's suffering.
And if you can't relate to it, you won't care about it, because you won't understand their
suffering. Furthermore: If you didn't know sadness, you wouldn't know happiness, you'd
simply be an apathetic person. Is this really what you want?

Good point, good point..
 
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that guy doesn't know a jack about what his saying

anxiety doesn't help in any way! it cripples your ability to act in situations. instead of doing what you want your anxiety holds you back and makes you stutter and fail!

I absolutely despise jerks like you!
 
that guy doesn't know a jack about what his saying

anxiety doesn't help in any way! it cripples your ability to act in situations. instead of doing what you want your anxiety holds you back and makes you stutter and fail!

I absolutely despise jerks like you!
Ah, yes. Ignorance and denial are also emotions that makes me crazy too often. ;)

Oh, see some hyena... let's go over there and look how they do.
 
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fear and anxiety are 2 totally different things

anxiety is a fear of future events that may never happen

fear is current.

examples:
anxiety: if there is an accident on the road I might be late for work. if I'm lAte for work my boss might fire me. if my boss fires me how will I feed my kids.

fear: you know maybe I shouldn't stand so close to the edge of this ledge, I might fall off.

bottomline is

anxiety is a fear of events that might never happen

fear is something that is likely to happen

therefore anxiety is a border line irrational fear

and who said the internet needs to be grammatically correct 100% of the time... besides I'm at work, I'm not going to stop and check my spelling
 
Right. Fear can be present or abstract. One might call it maybe "anxiety" if it's not present. I'm no expert.
However, fear, might it be abstract or not, can influence your mentality and behvaiour in the situation you feel it. And it both can be extreme, or also can be just mild.
Human beings are saving huge amount of informations in their mind-compex and we have the possibility to abstract out from this given information. This is mostly limited for other beings.
So we have the possibility "fear" something even when it's not present, and maybe you're right, idk, there maybe should be a distinction in wording... but the shema and effects are like the same.
It's a variation.
 
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Ok, now it's time for my opinion, so let me rebut this:

Then greed is not negative either because being more money feels nice.
And being egoistic is good too because it benefits yourself.

What are you talking about? Greed itself doesn't make you feel good and it just drives you to do negative things, while love, in fact, is the only emotion that is really really important to humanity. Without it, none of us would exist now. How can you call that a negative emotion? What makes an emotion negative is if it either makes you feel bad and/or it causes you to commit bad actions.
Any stupid action you think is caused by love is NOT. For example, a guy tries to steal a girl from someone. This person gets angry and jealous, so he ends up fighting the guy out of hatred. Love doesn't have to do with these.

So that kind of thinking seems pretty incorrect to me.

Your thinking maybe, but not mine.

Considering that, I wouldn't really want to remove any of them, but if I had to choose
one, it'd be hatred.

Your logic doesn't add up since you said that you need anger. How can you be angry with someone if you don't hate him? You would only be angry with your beloved ones maybe if they do something you don't like, and that would be bad. In addition, without hatred, how would you deal with your enemies? You don't feel anything towards them, but they do, making you an easier target, so I don't think removing hatred would be wise.
 
Your logic doesn't add up since you said that you need anger. How can you be angry with someone if you don't hate him? You would only be angry with your beloved ones maybe if they do something you don't like, and that would be bad. In addition, without hatred, how would you deal with your enemies? You don't feel anything towards them, but they do, making you an easier target, so I don't think removing hatred would be wise.

You can be angry with people without hating them. This is especially true for loved ones that makes a mistake that hurt you.
 

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What are you talking about? Greed itself doesn't make you feel good and it just drives you to do negative things, while love, in fact, is the only emotion that is really really important to humanity. Without it, none of us would exist now. How can you call that a negative emotion? What makes an emotion negative is if it either makes you feel bad and/or it causes you to commit bad actions.
Any stupid action you think is caused by love is NOT. For example, a guy tries to steal a girl from someone. This person gets angry and jealous, so he ends up fighting the guy out of hatred. Love doesn't have to do with these

Of course it does, a greedy person find it natural and thus does not feel bad about it. And while greed itself does not feel good either, it leads to happiness, because who would be sad to have a bit more money?
Still, the things a very greedy person can do may be incorrect from the moral perspective of most. So does love, that's why I made the comparison.

That part of your argument is fair enough, however the other half i bullshit.
Love is not needed for our survival, we can procreate without it.
What about this example then: A parent obviously love her/his children, and they want them to grow up in the best environment possible. The parent ends up overworking him/herself to give the kids that little extra and suffers for it. May lead to death in extreme cases. Tell me again how that is positive?

It does not even need to anything extreme. You go out on a date with your partner and wanna look all good, you test out a dozen sets of cloths before deciding. Making it take ten times longer than usual.
(some may go further with makeup and such but let's keep it simple)
That is stupid and there's nothing positive about it. Nothing grand indeed, but still negative.

Not to mention all the silly stuff people do to impress their partner, I doubt I need to give examples of that as I think everyone can think of their own ones due how common it is.
 
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personally I don't make myself presentable for my dates. I would go naked if it were legal. also I don't go to restaurants, I like walking so we would go walking if we aren't by her place.

generally I go with honesty is tgeyv best something, cause this is me and I'm not dipped in chocolate but you can still love me the way I am or get lost

that's how real relationships start
 
Of course it does, a greedy person find it natural and thus does not feel bad about it. And while greed itself does not feel good either, it leads to happiness, because who would be sad to have a bit more money?
Still, the things a very greedy person can do may be incorrect from the moral perspective of most. So does love, that's why I made the comparison.

Yes, and to be honest I admit that I feel somewhat good when picking some coins or banknotes on the floor. Slight greed is good and sometimes it motivates us to do things.

However, when greed is strong it may lead to many issues. Criminals rob banks, steals stuffs and kidnap others just for the pile of banknotes. Greedy corporations release shoddy and even toxic products (especially those 'fake' food) just because it's cheaper and it makes more money. Drug dealers sells harmful drugs because it earns them a fortune.........

In short, greed is like a two-edged sword.

That part of your argument is fair enough, however the other half i bullshit.
Love is not needed for our survival, we can procreate without it.
What about this example then: A parent obviously love her/his children, and they want them to grow up in the best environment possible. The parent ends up overworking him/herself to give the kids that little extra and suffers for it. May lead to death in extreme cases. Tell me again how that is positive?

That's spoiling the children, not love. A true parent will still love their kids, but they will not overwork themselves nor let their kids too much freedom.

And about this:
Love is not needed for our survival, we can procreate without it.

Seems that you've confused Love with Lust. Love is spiritual and mental which grows over time, but Lust is physical and lasts for a short time. Love makes you care about everything regarding to your partner, but Lust makes you only care about the dirty things and all these physical pleasure.

And it's love that motivates us to do good deeds, help the needy, makes everyone happy. Love connects individuals in a positive and good way. Love is what makes people care about others and establish long-lasting friendships......

Without love, people would become cold and calculating. People no longer care about each other, no true friendships, no honesty, no loyalty, but lies and deceptions everywhere...... and the absence of love will create chaos.

It does not even need to anything extreme. You go out on a date with your partner and wanna look all good, you test out a dozen sets of cloths before deciding. Making it take ten times longer than usual.
(some may go further with makeup and such but let's keep it simple)
That is stupid and there's nothing positive about it. Nothing grand indeed, but still negative.

That's only a few examples. Once in a while, it's still okay and it's natural for humans to try to make themselves look very good to the one that he/she loves or cares very much. This is common and that's nothing special about it.

Not to mention all the silly stuff people do to impress their partner, I doubt I need to give examples of that as I think everyone can think of their own ones due how common it is.

They are just trying to entertain their partner, but if you mean pretending to be cool, strong, smart, etc. then it's bad indeed.

But Love is itself, a positive emotion.
 

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That's spoiling the children, not love. A true parent will still love their kids, but they will not overwork themselves nor let their kids too much freedom.
It's love, just not the kind we usually refer to.

Seems that you've confused Love with Lust.
Not really, SF stated that we would not exist without love and the only thing I can come up with to cause that would be to not procreate because of the lack of love. I just pointed out that no emotion is needed to procreate.

Without love, people would become cold and calculating. People no longer care about each other, no true friendships, no honesty, no loyalty, but lies and deceptions everywhere...... and the absence of love will creat chaos.
Removing love does not replace it with hate. It would go from love to something more neutral, something that does make any remarks.
There's also non-love related concepts such as justice, you don't need to love to do a good deed.
But I get where you're coming from.

That's only a few examples. Once in a while, it's still okay and it's natural for humans to try to make themselves look very good to the one that he/she loves or cares very much. This is common and that's nothing special about it.
I did not state that it was special, uncommon, or weird.
I said that it's stupid.

They are just trying to entertain their partner, but if you mean pretending to be cool, strong, smart, etc. then it's bad indeed.
Pretty much. The classic wanna make that extra flashy football play when you think your crush is looking instead of passing the ball (which might have been a better option)
 
Not really, SF stated that we would not exist without love and the only thing I can come up with to cause that would be to not procreate because of the lack of love. I just pointed out that no emotion is needed to procreate.

Yes, that's a reason. But without love, fights, battles and even wars would break out, many of us may have been died in these countless skirmishes, and the Earth may have been devastated by endless nukes...

Removing love does not replace it with hate. It would go from love to something more neutral, something that does make any remarks.
There's also non-love related concepts such as justice, you don't need to love to do a good deed.
But I get where you're coming from.

But it would still make you a cold robot with no emotions at all, which is pretty scary and boring if you ask me. About those non-love concepts like justice, it's true. But everything is better when there's love. If there's no love, there's no humanitarianism and we might be slaves to the top rulers (and as cold as our would-be cold selves).

And without love, people wouldn't care about repaying kindness and all these good things, people wouldn't care to be filial. And these would make people stop caring about not only their elders and mentors, but also their peers, friends and even their very own next generations. Because, they would think, <after all, why should I care about them? They would treat me like shit when they grow up or become successful.>

I did not state that it was special, uncommon, or weird.
I said that it's stupid.
Sorry, I misunderstood your meaning.
 
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Let's stay on topic, guys.

Your logic doesn't add up since you said that you need anger. How can you be angry with someone if you don't hate him? You would only be angry with your beloved ones maybe if they do something you don't like, and that would be bad. In addition, without hatred, how would you deal with your enemies? You don't feel anything towards them, but they do, making you an easier target, so I don't think removing hatred would be wise.

Ah, thanks, I was hoping someone would challenge me on this :)

How can you be angry with someone if you don't hate him?

Exactly like The_Silent explained it, and man, I feel really sorry for you if you go
around hating everyone that makes you angry. Hate is a pretty destructive emotion,
one that rarely tends to go away when it has festered, anger on the other hand is
fleeting. This is part of why I chose hatred, because you can have anger without
hatred, but you can't have hatred without anger. And as I previously said, my opinion
is that anger is a necessary emotion.

In addition, without hatred, how would you deal with your enemies?

This would be a valid and true point, if I had enemies. But I am hardly as uncivilized
as that. Who, pray tell, among the normal populace of the earth in 2016 has enemies?

The way I see it, hatred is more or less a needless emotion these days, back when we
were primitive and probably needed to rely on such emotions in order to survive in
nature it might have been a good thing, but in today's modern civilized world, hatred is
the least necessary emotion by my estimate.

Do everyone a favor please:
Wash your mouth, son, and improve your English.

Anxiety prevents you from doing stupid and idiotic things (well, not you, apparently, else you wouldn't have created some of the crappy threads you created).
Anxiety makes sure that you run away when you face something that'd kill you if you stayed.

Oh, and before you reply to me, please improve your articulation, I get tired of all the barely English statements I have to read.

Do me a favor, please, and don't answer him back in the same toxic way he chooses
to address others. It really is uncalled for.

that guy doesn't know a jack about what his saying

I know everything about what I'm saying, I kind of sort of wouldn't be able to actually
say it if I didn't, mate. However, the validity of my opinions is something else, of which
I am sure was what you meant by what you said.

anxiety doesn't help in any way!

So, what you're saying is that anxiety is a completely needless deficient emotion that
we, the most successful species on our planet, somehow have failed to get rid of during
our 200 thousand, or so, years long evolution process? Interesting.

it cripples your ability to act in situations. instead of doing what you want your anxiety holds you back and makes you stutter and fail!

For some this may certainly be true, but rest assured mate, this is not the case for
everyone. Now, it's important that we distinguish here between regular anxiety and
anxiety disorder, which I think is what you are talking about.

Normal anxiety has many dimensions to it, but not all of them are negative. As part of
being a social animal, we humans experience mild anxiety every day. As part of our
need for social acceptance we dread the disapproval of others. This is a form of anxiety
makes us "act normal" around others, or act in accordance with how other people act.
One example of the good part of this kind of anxiety would be moral, without anxiety,
without that foreboding feeling of what doing something morally wrong may lead to, we
wouldn't have any good reason to prevent acting immorally.

I absolutely despise jerks like you!

Thank you.

I don't despise you.
 

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The only disability is a bad attitude.
fear and anxiety are 2 totally different things
anxiety is a fear of future events that may never happen
fear is current.
examples:
anxiety: if there is an accident on the road I might be late for work. if I'm lAte for work my boss might fire me. if my boss fires me how will I feed my kids.
fear: you know maybe I shouldn't stand so close to the edge of this ledge, I might fall off.
bottomline is
anxiety is a fear of events that might never happen
fear is something that is likely to happen
therefore anxiety is a border line irrational fear
and who said the internet needs to be grammatically correct 100% of the time... besides I'm at work, I'm not going to stop and check my spelling

Cool story bro... But get some help... I'm serious.
 
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you guys are all still wrong

abducted keijj you still haven't justified your love I've anxiety

doing immoral things has nothing to do with anxiety. that has more to do with sanity than anything else

what is socially acceptable in one country Is totally different in another.

for example in some Asian cultures it's perfectly acceptable to bath naked in mass public baths, yet it's unacceptable to expose your genitals!

in some African cultures it's considered rude not to fart or burp after a meal. it shows appreciation to expel wind at the table

mortality anxiety

nope not related, I've never felt compelled to hold my farts in at the dinner table because I was anxious but rather because I respect my fellow eate mates

if I had no respect for them

fart!
 
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you guys are all still wrong
Tell them! Alone vs everyone and he will end as winner! With red gem most likely, but win is the most important!
You Keiji are wrong!
You Shar Dundred are wrong!
You Roland are wrong!
You IcemanBo are wrong!
You (everyone else) are wrong!
Only true power lies with him. And truth. TheLorOfChaos201 himself! He will go alone and beat you all! :cgrin:
 
I would not remove any negative emotion, because then the positive emotion would lose impact as well.

There's no happiness unless you know sadness.
There's no calmness unless you know anger.
There's no love unless you know hate.

Those emotions don't scale from zero to an absolute value, they scale from -absolute to +absolute. You only get to cherish positive feelings as much as you know and understand the negative ones.
 
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abducted keijj you still haven't justified your love I've anxiety

I never stated anywhere that I love anxiety, I was merely pointing out how anxiety
could be a beneficial emotion.

doing immoral things has nothing to do with anxiety. that has more to do with sanity than anything else

nope not related, I've never felt compelled to hold my farts in at the dinner table because I was anxious but rather because I respect my fellow eate mates

I am no longer inclined to continue this discussion. You are clearly not interested in a
debate, and obviously don't care about what others bring to the table. You blindly insist
on your own irrational opinions without offering any substantial or convincing arguments.
You also argue in a very fallible way, I will not nitpick your arguments and name every
flaw in your form, but you need to learn how to debate in a more respectful manner if
you expect people to listen to what you say.

what is socially acceptable in one country Is totally different in another.

for example in some Asian cultures it's perfectly acceptable to bath naked in mass public baths, yet it's unacceptable to expose your genitals!

in some African cultures it's considered rude not to fart or burp after a meal. it shows appreciation to expel wind at the table

I will point out that this part is completely irrelevant to the the point I was trying to make,
however. What is socially normal, or accepted, from place to place has nothing to do
with the fact that a person in either geographical location follows the social norms from
where they are. It is related, yes, but irrelevant to my argument and thus
irrelevant as a counter-argument whatsoever.

To clarify: No matter what is socially accepted where, it still holds true that a person
follows those social norms based on several factors, one of those factors is a mild or
strong feeling of anxiety toward getting sanctioned for not following the norm.

I would not remove any negative emotion, because then the positive emotion would lose impact as well.

Certainly, but the name of the game here, as I interpret it, is that if you had to remove one, which one would it be?
 
The way I see it (from the thread title and original post), it's definitely if you "could" remove it. And I'd choose to remove none. Removing negative emotions so abruptly would cause real chaos in the human world, we've been evolved and accommodated to a lief with those emotions and have a semi-stable global society. Removal of just one of the negative emotions would cause unforeseen consequences that'd be very hard to account for.
 
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