HiveWE - World Editor 0.10

[Retera]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fEkcoUcNEemCs0Vo2
That did not seem to work

 

[A Void]

@eejin Since I have not been helping you code, is there a link to donate you money?

You'll have to get an answer from @eejin himself. Just ask him.

 

[Kyrbi0]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fEkcoUcNEemCs0Vo2
That did not seem to work

Oh, doh! That one's old. Try <email removed to prevent gullible souls from sending money>

 

[Retera]

Yeah, I guess I could try that one.
I tried to send you a payment with glimmerfall.com online portal, I guess maybe the money is gone now. [See attachment]

Edit: For those interested, glimmerfall.com payment portal was down until just now, due to some server issue

 

[Dr Super Good]

Is Kyrbi0 involved with the project?

 

[Retera]

I dunno, he said that's where to send the money

 

[Ralle]

Joke's over. You had me until glimmerfall. I was so afraid that Retera had actually transferred money.

@Kyrbi0, I was actually on the verge of giving you quite a severe warning, but decided against it. Please don't try to cheat people like that. Even if @Retera was in on it, other people aren't.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Yes sir Ralle sir. My apologies; I guess Poe's Law is alive & well. :<

 

[eejin]

@eejin Since I have not been helping you code, is there a link to donate you money?

Nawww man no need to donate . Thank you for the offer. If you still feel like donating then I'm sure Ralle could use it for the Hiveworkshop its hosting cost.

If one could recreate the WorldEdit pathing logic one could then compile a pathing difference image. This could be exported, the map edited in normal WorldEdit and imported again back in HiveWE so as to restore all pathing modifications while still keeping some pathing changes which were made in WorldEdit.

The pathing difference map could be considered a normal pathing map but where each node has an alpha flag, with transparent pixels being ignored and only opaque pixels modifying the pathing map.

Though interesting it might be more beneficial in the long run to focus on things like terrain editing. Once I got terrain texture/height editing and doodad placing I can just backup the war3map.w3e and pathing map and reload those once done in the original WE.

 

[Hotwer]

There might be any problem if you start adding other files unrelated to Wc3 or World Editor for your use?

 

[Retera]

Aww, c'mon guys, I was messing around probably almost as much as Kyrbi0, to get the joke all you have to do is go to glimmerfall.com to check out the payment portal.

As for being back on topic, has anybody worked out a way to store data in a wc3 map that is read and preserved by the editor, even if not used? Several options exist, definitely. I seem to recall TESH used to store "// TESH.scrollposition" in a comment in triggers that had been converted to JASS. That way, the normal editor preserved the comment and JNGP/WEX would have access to a stored scroll position value they could hide from the user. I thought I read something about WEX or a newer TESH doing this differently, though. In the worst case, it should always work to add an imported file to the war3map.imp file, perhaps call "HiveWE.ini" or whatever format you wanted, really, and as long as it's a registered file in the war3map.imp file then the standard World Editor should keep it inside the archive when saving. Perhaps if you were going to do this with a lot of files, you could name them "HiveWEConfig/<filename>".
So, you CAN use arbitrary extra information, to my knowledge -- as long as you're okay with standard WE users seeing the extra HiveWE files when they look in the import manager.

 

[_Guhun_]

The advantage of using comments is that they will be deleted when the map is optimized. Otherwise, you would have to write an optimization/canonization option in HiveWE. Though the second option is not hard at all.

 

[Retera]

The reason to go to the immeasurable effort of rewriting the world editor is that the original one is not open source. Any good community optimizer would be open source, so I'm not sure I see your point. In one case the community does not control the code, in the other case, it does. Let's not worry about whether the code the community writes is compatible with other code the community writes, since in such a case both projects have publicly mutable code.

 

[w3.exe]

it wont work everytiem i try opening it it sais "hivewe has stopped working" plz help

 

[Dr Super Good]

it wont work everytiem i try opening it it sais "hivewe has stopped working" plz help

Please post your system specifications. We cannot help you without them.

 

[w3.exe]

Please post your system specifications. We cannot help you without them.

wat iz a system specifications im new 2 diz website

 

[eejin]

Your computer models/name and the parts inside of it. Like your CPU/GPU. An Intel processor or an AMD? And what kind of processor. AMD or NVidia GPU? Which one?

 

[Dr Super Good]

This editor program has a very high GPU requirement due to the API features it uses. It will not work on older GPUs, even those far beyond the minimum requirements for modern Warcraft III.

 

[xorkatoss]

This is overall not bad! I see great potential in HiveWE once it improves!

Areas of Improvement:
-Remember the Warcraft 3 Directory, I have to manually locate it every time

-Make the Camera able to rotate around

-Is this normal or I'm doing something wrong?

Spoiler: Picture

anyway I'm aware you already know this but there are major problems with doodads in the map:

Spoiler: WE Preview

Spoiler: HiveWE Preview

any idea what those red things are? lol


anyway I tried pathing a copy of my map with HiveWE and it worked fine when I opened it in the normal WE, the only problem was that I couldn't do an accurate pathing because of Doodads being "miss-shaped" and also the weird red things of doom.

If you want I would gladly sent you a copy of the map if it helps you solve any of those issues.

as I said before this has a lot of potential, hope to see a lot of improvements

 

[Alethos]

The red things are the tc portrait plane geosets. They are part of the model actually but normally only visible via the model's portrait.
WE solves this by making all the models cycle though their stand animations but i guess hivewe just renders the doodads mesh without animations so it doesn't have an easy time of hiding the problem geosets. Perhaps if one were able to replace 'replaceable id 2' texture locally for hivewe you wouldnt see the problem.

 

[eejin]

This is overall not bad! I see great potential in HiveWE once it improves!

Thank you for the feedback. I am or intend to work on most of the features you have suggested. Expect to see them in some coming version! As for the errors in the console, does it do it every time? And can you confirm whether the named .mpq file exists in the Data/Temporary folder?

 

[King Daemonic]

Thank you for the feedback. I am or intend to work on most of the features you have suggested. Expect to see them in some coming version! As for the errors in the console, does it do it every time? And can you confirm whether the named .mpq file exists in the Data/Temporary folder?

Any idea when you will be adding trigger support?

 

[Somebassoon]

Does 0.2 have OpenGL 3.3 version support

 

[eejin]

Any idea when you will be adding trigger support?

Maybe some improved GUI, but for otherwise Wurst might be a better choice.

Does 0.2 have OpenGL 3.3 version support

Not currently, but I will look into updating that branch for 0.3

 

[RanchBurner]

OK, new question: Any way it could convert a SC2 map?

 

[Dr Super Good]

OK, new question: Any way it could convert a SC2 map?

No. It is an editor for Warcraft III.

StarCraft II maps are completely different. There is nothing in common.

 

[RanchBurner]

No. It is an editor for Warcraft III.

StarCraft II maps are completely different. There is nothing in common.

Aww, well I was thinking of the "Convert Legacy Map" function in the SC2 editor. I thought maybe the Hive WE could eventually do a reverse conversion.

 

[trax7]

I get error 2 on launch with WC3 1.29 and 1.27 both.

 

[eejin]

Currently HiveWE only officially supports the 1.28.X family of version. The next version will support 1.29. Do please post the full console error message though.

 

[trax7]

Sure, it's like that...

 

[eejin]

Can you confirm whether the D:\WC3\War3local.mpq exists in that folder? Can you perhaps show a screenshot of the contents of the D:\WC3\ folder?

 

[trax7]

It's not there.

 

[Mighty]

Nice job can u add something like cliff editor, so we can edit/add cliffs.

 

[eejin]

Nice job can u add something like cliff editor, so we can edit/add cliffs.

Soon

 

[Somebassoon]

Any chance we could see a custom object editor in 0.3? OE lag is one major issue plaguing a lot of older big mapmakers and it would be great if they could get a simple lag free solution.

 

[Abovegame]

@Somebassoon Sorry no OE in 0.3 , there will be an Import Manager amongst other things. I don't know if @MindWorX will be working on it or anyone else really.

 

[Mighty]

when will 0.3 version come out?

 

[eejin]

Hey guys great news, after a long wait HiveWE 0.3 is out!
HiveWE 0.3
Additions:
- Warcraft 1.29 support
- Added a Tile Pathing setter
- Added a Terrain Palette.
- Added an Import Manager
- Now shows the pathing texture on cliffs too
- Added a first person camera and allow switching between them
- Added terrain shadows
- Reset camera using CTRL + Shift + C

Changes:
- Removed war3Patch.mpq from the hierarchy
- Added deprecated.mpq (from 1.29) to the hierarchy
- SLK loading is now roughly 4x as fast (improved map load time)
- Hides the brush when palette is inactive
- Some small quality of life improvements
- Improved RoC compatibility for unit loading
- Changed terrain rendering to support different ground texture sizes
- Now remembers your last open/save location
- Further increased rendering performance for doodads a lot
- Now remembers your Warcraft 3 directory if you previously located it

Fixes:
- Fixed tileset/map hierarchy order
- Fixed loading items placed on the map
- Fixed a bug with the terrain being off by one (64x64 became 63x63)

See the main post or news post on the frontpage for screenshots and more info! (News post pending)

 

[A Void]

Hey guys great news, after a long wait HiveWE 0.3 is out!
HiveWE 0.3
Additions:
- Warcraft 1.29 support
- Added a Tile Pathing setter
- Added a Terrain Palette.
- Added an Import Manager
- Now shows the pathing texture on cliffs too
- Added a first person camera and allow switching between them
- Added terrain shadows
- Reset camera using CTRL + Shift + C

Changes:
- Removed war3Patch.mpq from the hierarchy
- Added deprecated.mpq (from 1.29) to the hierarchy
- SLK loading is now roughly 4x as fast (improved map load time)
- Hides the brush when palette is inactive
- Some small quality of life improvements
- Improved RoC compatibility for unit loading
- Changed terrain rendering to support different ground texture sizes
- Now remembers your last open/save location
- Further increased rendering performance for doodads a lot
- Now remembers your Warcraft 3 directory if you previously located it

Fixes:
- Fixed tileset/map hierarchy order
- Fixed loading items placed on the map
- Fixed a bug with the terrain being off by one (64x64 became 63x63)

See the main post or news post on the frontpage for screenshots and more info! (News post pending)

Great news! Is this eventually going to evolve into a replacement of standard editor?

 

[eejin]

Yes it's goal is to become even better than the standard editor!

 

[Abovegame]

Took you long enough : p

 

[Sieben]

Glad to hear this project is still running! Well done mate!

 

[Mighty]

Some maps show black screen only in 0.3 version didn't have this issue in 0.2
Screenshot

 

[Abovegame]

You should send the map to @eejin.Or just attach it here.

 

[Hazop / Sarven]

Does this allow for custom Scripts? Like WEX?

 

[Lt_Hawkeye]

Unfortunately does not work for me, I click on the HiveWe, and the command prompt opens up, but then it closes, and nothing happens after that.

 

[stan0033]

Man, can you add option to undo/redo? I can't help but notice there is no such thing and I am so used to ctrl+z, ctrl+y.

 

[Produtor]

Very good, good project, import manager with folder is perfect. +rep

 

[Abovegame]

If you guys think that a search bar in the import manager would be nice, please tell us !

I guess only big maps with lots of imports would benefit of this.

 

[stan0033]

Yeah, but instead of search bar you could just add search <some string> and then cycle through with ctrl+G