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Hive fanboy/girl debate. Why the ps3 will rule on 2010

Discussion in 'Gamer's Hub' started by bobo11, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. bobo11

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    Lol ok i'm going to get flamed so hard by the 360 lovers, but I would like to see their reaction. Let's have a debate ... i'm going to put a topic and fan boys and girls from both teams (ps3 and 360) can argue out the topic.

    Why the PS3 will kick the 360's ass in 2009.... this is the title. Read below for why I am saying this. I have put a list of the ps3 exclusives and why they will push the ps3 up.
    Yes I know I fucked up the title and accidentaly put 2010 instead of 2009... ITS 2009 NOT 2010 OK sorry my bad.

    KILLZONE 2 - the best console graphics so far seen out of any console game, this shooter is fuking awesome. Already got many very positive reviews. The most hyped game on the internet at the moment.

    WHITE KNIGHT CHRONICLES - A 4 player online, 100 + hour RPG with amazing graphics. It's only been out in japan so far and sold over 200k in a week.

    GRAN TURISMO 5!!!!!! - Ok what can I say, the best racing game ever going to come out, with the best graphics. Hands down THE best driving simulator ever. It's been like 500 years in the making for this game, and in 09 it is here!

    GOD OF WAR 3 - OMG what can I say it's god of war 3 the fuking best hack and slash game eveeer! if you haven't played gow1 or 2 then go buy urself the game on ps2. cant wait for the demo coming in a few months

    UNCHARTED 2, Among Thieves - uncharted one was easily the best single player experience ever with amazing graphics and gameplay. This is going to be even better... a new island with even better graphics and is going to be the first game ever to use around 80-100% of the ps3's power.

    HOME - the full version of home, a hd world where psn users can chat, play games and set up games and more...

    HEAVY RAIN - you haven't seen detail on games if you haven't seen heavy rain. heavy rain kicks crysis up the butt.

    MAG - mag ... massive action game. A 256 player online modern warfare game which is going to be iiinsane!!! (this might be 2010 though). Developed by zipper interactive (the creators of socom so it must be good)

    INFAMOUS - well I don't know much about this, besides the fact that it's 3rd person (i think) and has guns and some small super powers. The gameplay in this game is fucking amazing.

    YAKUZA 3 - Eh don't know much about this game except for it's set in japan and it's got stuff to do with the yakuza gang. Visuals look nice though.

    Ratchet and Clank 2 - Well it's ratchet and clank, a fun and enjoyable series. I don't think I need to explain this.

    DC Universe- A superhero MMO game

    FF13 versus - I think that's the name ... FF something versus or something. Well I don't know much about FF games but I know they're big.

    Demon's Souls - A medievil rpg/adventure which looks really good, especially the huge beasts

    Quantom Theory - Not sure what this is but it looks really good. Looks a bit like UT3

    Wardevil: Unleash the Beast Within - Not sure what this is, but it is based in a post apocalyptic world

    X-edge - An rpg starring characters from a few older famous games

    Yakuza: Kenzan! - Another yaukza game which is set 400 years in the past.

    L.A Noire - A detective story set in the 1940's. Players must solve the mystery to catch the murderer.

    Twisted Metal - A fast paced game with vehicles ( i think guns aswell) and destruction

    PLAY TV - An accessory which you plug into your ps3 and t.v and it allows you to record t.v whilst playing your ps3, and allows you to record your games. An easy and affordable way to do this and it just saves the t.v shows/your games on ur hdd

    ALSO the ps3 price cut is coming at around march or aprilI beleive, the ps3's first price cut hooray. That's a major point. Very very likely chance, as apparently it has been leaked.

    Also blu-ray popularity is rising very fast, 2008 was a huge increase in blu-ray players, 2009 will be even better.

    Also looks like the mass effect trilogy is coming to ps3.

    Also resistance 3 has been announced but I doubt it will be either 09 or maybe not even 010.
    Umm I think that's all... I will edit if I missed some out. NOW onto the 360 list

    360 exclusive list of 09.... halo wars... omg halo wars how cool hey omfg yeah cool. NOT

    Come on fanboys and girls join in I want a debate. No flaming at each others faces, just debate.
     
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    :D.

    I'm sure this will be a big fight unless a boring moderator comes to close this.
     
  3. bobo11

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    FUCK I fucked the title... its 2009 NOT 010... if an admin could fix it up that would be really cool thanks. Anyway let's debate, don't flame each other just argue the point.

    AND please moderators don't be lame and close this, it's not hurting anyone ... it's the big hive fanboy debate!!! Ok thanks moderators if you must close it ... which you shouldnt dont for a while, because this will be enjoyable for everyone, anybody can jump in and say their OWN OPINIONS... thanks. Let's get cracking, no flaming each other, just debate the topic.

    Yes I know there's several typos, bad grammar and a bit of swearing ... so sorry for that but I think it's understandable (if that's a word lol).

    Lol omg I forgot about uncharted 2 among thieves, putting in now.

    Forgot about ff12 versus or whatever its called

    Also if this is popular and doesn't go out of control, then i'll definately make more.
     
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  4. Mecheon

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    I'll close it when it goes out of control. Not 'if', when.

    So, I completely disagree with your points up top about this pricey as hell system. Oh sure, its actually at an affordable price over my end nowerdays, but seeing as there's still nothing I actually care about on it

    The day graphics can actually make a game will be a sad day. Y'know what'll happen if they only have shiny graphics but no gameplay? It'll fail, that's what

    Eh, I'm not famillier with it, however I do know that Japan and America are two completely different markets. The 360 fails in Japan because of this

    Most gamers don't want realistic driving simulators, they want games where they can drive cars off ramps, land on a cop car, cause a massive explosion, and drive away unscathed. GTA 4 and Saints Row 2 are going to pretty much dominate this game simple because they're more fun

    Driving simulators are for a niche audience. The mainstream aren't going to care terribly much and instead go for the cheap laughs and fun gameplay provided by other games. Who cares if it isn't realistic? At least its fun

    Oh, and I believe we already dealt with the fact I didn't care about graphics earlier so yes

    This one I'll give you

    No, the best single player experiance ever with amazing graphics and gameplay is Cave Story. Oh sure, they're not realistic, but its a fun game that is awesome

    And I'm not impressed by it using so much of the power. I'd prefer a game that didn't use so much but was polished to a mirror shine. Like Cave Story

    ... So its a toned down version of Second Life without the cybersex?

    You DO know this guy's last game was Indigo Prophecy/Farenhite, don't you? Who cares how nice it looks when its going to end up a pretentious confusing mindfuck where the Internet is an old lady in a wheelchair who has a ton of ravens or something like that. This is an obnoxiously niche thing

    Also you appear to love graphics. Tell me, if I were to show you Sonic 3 and Knuckles, a game that I would rate in the top ten, would you explode from its lack of realistic graphics?

    Sounds laggy. Who's making it?

    Because superhero fans are total gamers, and every game based off a franchise doesn't have a 75% chance of being complete shite

    Yeah, well they're gonna have to cut it pretty hard for me to pay almost $1000 on it

    Seeing as Ratchet and Clank is a good series, I'll give you that one as well. Resistance however I'm a bit iffy on

    You DO know that Halo is an absolute behemoth of a marketing machine and has the selling power to draw in thousands? Franchises always draw in players, especially ones that have proven themselves like Halo

    Anywho, I don't care about any of that for 2009. You know why? Because while you're busying yourself with that, Cave Story is coming out on Wii-Ware with updated graphics, new music, and 3 save slots. In fact, you should all play the computer version right now so you'll stop being impressed by such simple things as high detail models and instead focus on the true joys of video games: The gameplay, and the storytelling

    Cave Story (Doukutsu Monogatari), A Tribute Site
     
  5. Steel_Stallion

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    Let me sum it up for you bobo11: Metal gear solid 4, Resistance 2, Little big planet, and a plethora of other great exclusives.

    Playstation 3 is still in third place. The line up for 2009's PS3 exclusives, is worse than 2008. You fail to realize that the 360 doesn't only get its fan base from the exclusive titles, but it sells many many more third party titles (Call of duty 5, Prince of Persia, Fallout 3...) and some third party titles not on the PS3 (Mass effect, Left 4 dead...) than the PS3.

    So while raging fanboys can scream all they want about how the Playstation 3 has exclusives, still doesn't beat facts and figures that it is not as profitable as the 360. Therefore, it does not "Rule". Microsoft knows how to advertise and sell their products, Sony shits bricks and can't market their console for fuck.

    Mmk baibai.

    (Note: bobo, work on your sentence structure because I can hardly read that shit post)
     
  6. Gilles

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    Mecheon, I'm downloading that cave game right now, I'll let you know how it goes.

    So the PS3 is finally getting some games? I'm glad to see that, but it's a bit late for me, I've got my 360 and I ain't getting another system. Maybe I'll tell my brother to get a PS3 since he's on the fence.

    Oh and I doubt you did your research on the 360, it has games coming out in 2009.
    Star Ocean 4
    Champions Online
    Alan Wake
    Mass Effect 2
    Forza 3
    Probably something from Rare
     
  7. ~Void~

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    I just got a PS3 for christmas. The games I have on it so far (metal gear solid 4 and fallout 3) are really not that impressive as far as graphics go, but I'm sure that much better ones will come out soon.

    Guitar hero world tour looks REALLY good and that's what I'm getting next.

    @Mecheon: Well right now it costs $500, and it will drop to about $300, so you will end up spending as much on a PS3 as you would've on your 360.
     
  8. WILL THE ALMIGHTY

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    You wish.

    The PS3 actually makes Sony lose money (cost of production > sell value). They're not getting price cuts anytime soon.

    Most of those games will be pretty cool, I bet. Heavy Rain looks alright, Killzone 2 looks like a lot of fun and Uncharted 2 will obviously be great, but this isn't going to make the PS3 suddenly the best console ever and sell millions more than the 360.

    For example, Halo 3: ODST (expansion to Halo 3) is out 2009. For the 360. Hell, the 360 has FEAR 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.

    No, this is the year when people will realise the PS3 is actually a capable console. Equal to the 360, but not necessarily better. This is the year people might start to lose interest in the Wii as a hardcore gamer console, yet it will still crush Sony and MS because of the sheer amount of casual crowd it'll draw in.

    I'm glad to see the PS3 won't die, I like healthy competition. But they're not dominating yet.
     
  9. bobo11

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    @ mecheon

    No I don't love graphics i'm just putting in a few facts about the game. Killzone 2 gameplay is awesome, from the gameplay videos i've seen and the people talking about the beta, they are saying goty.

    MAG won't be laggy... they wouldn't make it 256 players online if it was going to lag. Look at resistance 2, 60 player matches with not a drop of lag... not one tiny bit... at all. Sure mag has a hell of a lot more players, but i'm sure it's possible.

    So what if you don't love realistic driving simulators, lots of people do. It will sell bucket loads, it's gran turismo buddy.

    Well i'm not going to play that cave game but I still bet uncharted is better, uncharted 2 will own that cave game even more.

    Yes HOME isn't fucking awesome, but it's free and it's pretty cool, it's not like a game you will be playing all the time. Besides the fact that some nerdy gamers harass women on it (i'll admit that is a bad part on it).


    @willthealmighty

    I think it is getting a cut anyway, they are making a tone off the playstation store. And fear 2 is on the ps3 aswell buddy. They announced the cut anyway.


    @ void

    Strange I think it was spike who gave MGS4 best graphics game of the year. Well ur opinion I guess.


    Thanks for your opinions though. Keep putting in everyone and don't flame as I want this to stay because it is a good topic to talk about.
     
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  10. bobo11

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    Ah forgot about that FF versus game ... I think it's FF12 versus or something like that. I don't know the name as I don't know much about final fantasy games.

    Also put in play t.v

    Shit forgot infamous. Putting on the list now.
     
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  11. Mecheon

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    DON'T DOUBLE POST. God dammit

    I'll believe it when I see it. And considering how many games you mentioned as having great graphics, it was a decent assumption to make

    Ahahahahaha! I see you don't know how networks work

    It will lag. Try playing Warcraft against someone from Australia or something, notice that lag? Imagine how much worse that 500 ms is going to get with 256 people. Unless they have the mother of all protocols or some nice work-arounds, they're going to lag

    GTA 4 and SR 2 will still sell more than it

    No. It won't. Cave Story is one of the gaming classics. Uncharted is just a puzzle solver/action hybrid that looks pretty but has nothing terribly unique going for it

    Go play Cave Story you uneducated fool and understand why solid gameplay will kick the ass of shiny graphics any day of the week. You do yourself a disservice by not playing that game and may as well not even call yourself a gamer if you're not going to play a game that is easily the greatest indie game ever developed

    You don't know the half of what a nightmare it will end up to be. However, as I said, its basically just Second Life but without the custom content creation. It isn't going to draw in people when there's 2001 different things that do the same job but better on the internet

    Wow. Now if only devices like this hadn't been out for a fair few years already, weren't horribly common, and would work on everything rather than just being single-platform

    A gamebridge does the same job but works on every single console
     
  12. Gilles

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    Remember that all the people playing the Beta are probably PS3 fanboys that will love anything that is supposed to be "good".
     
  13. bobo11

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    @ mecheon how can you say gran turismo is crap. number 4 sold 10 million. gta4 is a completly different game! They have been working on this game for years and years. There was a show on the discovery channel about gran turismo 5 and the detail they have on the cars and stuff. Trust me mate it will sell big, there's a lot of gran turismo fans around, the series has been around for a long time.

    Fuck is anyone else gonna say something besides mecheon?

    Also @ mecheon and gilles go and watch some kz 2 gameplay.

    Are you going to defend with your games? All you seem to be doing is making up crap about these games to make them sound crap. I haven't seen one good 09 exclusive for 360. Halo wars looks crap, stingy copy of sc2 but you have to use a friggin controller.
     
  14. Gilles

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    Jeez you're defensive. Mecheon never said GT sucked, he actually never stated his own opinion on it. I also never said KZ sucked, I simply made a point that taking advice from Beta testers isn't always reliable.

    I named you a bunch of 09 games for the 360, but you apparently ignored them.
     
  15. WILL THE ALMIGHTY

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    Halo 3: ODST will sell more than any of the PS3's exclusives simply because Halo is an insanely popular franchise for the 360.

    Unfortunate, but true. The game probably won't be that good anyway.
     
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    I must disagree. Play World of Goo.
    See now, you're becoming desperate and your just throwing around insults like a fan boy. This website might suit you better SDF Sony Defense Force .

    Oh and also, third party games will kick the shit out of any exclusive coming out for any console.

    So I can hardly give a shit.
     
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    @gilles fair enough I guess you didn't, sure did seem like it. My bad.

    Yeah you named them but I have no idea what most of them are and why they will be better than the ps3 list.

    @will yeah halo is freakishly popular, but that's just an add on. If people would buy the 360 for a dlc rather than the game, well that's strange. I'm sure all the 12 year olds will be back on halo saying your mum jokes when it comes out.

    Looks like this site is covered in 360 fanboys, I am getting no love lol.
     
  18. Mecheon

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    I'm not a 360 fanboy, I just now how video games work. If anything I'm a Wii fanboy

    Here's the November selling figures for the consoles, by the way

    Wii--2,040,000
    360--836,000
    PS3 - 378,000

    You see that? The PS3 is, and always has been, fucked. Screwed. Doomed. In the shitter. Soon to be slipping off the mortal coil. They flubbed the release, they flubbed the console, and they've been making mistakes ever since. Sure its powerful, but guess what? So was the Dreamcast

    A bunch of shiny exclusives, that I poked holes in anyway, isn't going to save the PS3 any more than the plethora of high quality Dreamcast exclusives saved it
     
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    That's why you look them up. Most of the games you've posted I've looked up, or usually I've played the originals, and can hazard a guess as to the gameplay.

    I'm not a 360 fanboy. I already said I'm glad to see the PS3 do well.

    Ewwwww :p

    I don't think so Mech. Japan will help keep it afloat, and the fact that it's made by a company that makes more than just video games. The exclusives coming out next year, should help. If there is a price cut, that should bolster sales a lot. It won't beat the 360 is sales, but it should start to do better.
     
  20. WILL THE ALMIGHTY

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    EDIT: uhm, those are november selling figures. They don't represent much.

    Here are the global statistics, worldwide as of Dec 19th 2008.
    360: 25 million
    PS3: 16.4 million
    Wii: 34.5 million