Hero Contest #6

[bowser499]

Hellbourne
Contestants must create a horrifying demonic hero with 6 different abilities.

• No submission may violate any of the site rules.
• If a submission does not follow the map submission rules the creator will be disqualified.
• All submissions must follow the current theme. If any model does not fit, a moderator will tell you as soon as possible as to avoid confusion.
• Your submission must be posted before the deadline. The post containing your final submission must also contain the following:
  • Several screenshots of terrain and gameplay.
  • The file in the appropriate format.
• You must show at least one unfinished preview of your submission, before the deadline, as proof that it’s yours.
• Your submission may not be started/made before the official launch of the contest.
• Judges may not participate.
• Your final submission must be bug free.
• Teamwork is not allowed.
  • Finding testers and voice actors to help you with your submission is not considered teamwork.
• Imports may be used in the map, however they must all be credited.
• All multiplayer maps must be under 4mb, so they are playable on Battle.Net. Having it under 2mb is recommended.

• First Place: 40 reputation points and your entry on the award icon
  
• Second Place: 30 reputation points and an award icon
  
• Third Place: 20 reputation points and an award icon

• bowser499

Concept	How interesting is the hero to play with?	/10
Coding	Is the hero bug and lag free? How well was the coding executed?	/15
Synergy	How well do the abilities work with each other? Do they fit with the theme of the hero?	/20
Balance	How balanced the hero is? Is it extremely weak to own or extremely hard to face?	/25
Aesthetics	How good-looking the hero is? How well their appearance is fitting with the icons? Are the tooltips self-explanatory?	/10

• 50 % of the winner shall be determined by the contest's appointed judge(s).
• 50 % of the winner shall be determined by the results of a public poll.

• The contest shall begin on ??? and conclude on ???, GMT

 

[Cokemonkey11]

I like it. Simple and satisfying. I'd join (thought I probably wouldn't find time to finish this one)

 

[Freyleyes]

lets get this stared!!!!!

 

[Orcnet]

that's a cool theme, but what's with the 6 abilities? wouldn't be fair if its just 4? then the additional spells could be a link to the 4 spells

example: when the hero learns an ability, that ability will have 2 icons pop out when learned like Nevermore in DotA

 

[Skycraft]

I like it but I'm with Orcnet, why 6 abilities? :/

 

[eubz]

6 abilities? WTF.

 

[Lordkoon]

Can a blizzard melee expansion map be used and put the hero in the tavern? Or we need to make a hero, terrain, some sort of game mode to test his balance etc. ?

 

[boomwolf]

I assume they will set a sample map where you need to implant him, to make sure people don't make clever use of terrain to make sure the hero abilities work, as they are too terrain-specific.

But I must also ask-why 6 abilities?

 

[Cokemonkey11]

Why not 6 abilities? All units with a normal attack have 7 available slots

 

[The Reborn Devil]

I'm joining, although I'm not sure if I'll finish it xD

I'm fine with 6 abilities though.

 

[Lord_Earthfire]

Just one question on the abilities: How much level does they need? something like 6/6/6/4/4/2, so we can link abilities better with each other by having an order or leveling.

 

[BeTaGod-]

Wow this seems interesting!

 

[-Kobas-]

I would like to join this as well

 

[shinji]

May I join this too?? But I would want it to be started before or after the legendary fight 2012.

 

[The Reborn Devil]

So, is anything going to happen with this?

 

[Orcnet]

since nothing is still happening with the imbalance 6 abilities, t-up for approval

 

[defskull]

Probably would join this, but when does it start ?
Or the fate is sealed, same with Zephyr Contest - Assassination.

 

[Freyleyes]

I wish this starts soon

 

[defskull]

I wish Frozen will take into effect.

I vote for 4 spells only, 6 is an overkill.

 

[Lordkoon]

I wish Frozen will take into effect.

I vote for 4 spells only, 6 is an overkill.

You can always make the hardest of spells - interesting passive abbilities that don't just add stats of any type. Very rarely seen.

 

[mckill2009]

let me predict, once this contest starts it will end after 5 to 6 months, by then it will be the end of the world on Dec 21 ...

 

[defskull]

let me predict, once this contest starts it will end after 5 to 6 months, by then it will be the end of the world on Dec 21 ...

Lol you believed that sh*t ?
About world ends at December, lulzzzzz

Anyway, there's many contest going around now, I bet this will be delay for awhile.

 

[mckill2009]

well this is offtopic already but, I believe the world will end, but not on Dec 21 XD, maybe when war comes because of the tensions in the 2 islands near philippine seas...

 

[Almia]

Six Abilities???5 Here Ability and 1 Unit Ability??

Okay,ill join

 

[Kyrbi0]

Eh, not that interested in theme, and 6 abilities is a tad much. I mean, how many "pentagrams of fire" spells can you have, mirite?

Sad, too; I finally have Wc3 bought and installed.

 

[Adiktuz]

Since you can only have 5 hero abils then 6 will mean that 1 is a unit abil?

 

[Pharaoh_]

6 abilities won't happen. It becomes too vast and out of balance. Demonic as a concept is corny. Anything else? :s

 

[Almia]

What about elemental?ex.1st ability:water 2nd:fire like that.
i would prefer the sixth abil as a unit abil

 

[defskull]

How about "Curse" theme ?
Or debuff ? Like spell(s) that weakens you by not directly damaging it, instead there's a trick to it.

 

[Kyrbi0]

After taking an extensive look at the Hive's illustrious previous contests, I have to submit that the theme really needs to be widened greatly for the creation of heroes (at least, where custom models come into play). Ideas like "demonic", "elemental" and "curses" are great, but more for spell contests IMO.

When it comes to heroes, you will run the risk of just a bunch of cookie-cutter hero ideas with a few standouts, and ultimately not much added to the site as a whole (I mean seriously, how many times do you think a 'big flaming red pentagram' will happen if this contest goes live? )

Might I suggest one of two contest ideas that will not only allow for useful bounds, but great creativity and ultimately a lot of usefulness to the site?

Simply Additions. Melee and Tavern.

On one hand, you have a contest to "add a hero to a chosen faction (HU, OR, UD, NE)". This can even be split up into either "add a hero of that race", or even widen it out to be "any race in the faction" (so Dwarves for Human, Trolls for Orc, or Nerubian for Undead, or Creatures for Night Elf; etc).
Even better, word the contest so people are encouraged to "fill a gap" in the race (sorta like how the Mountain Giant 'filled a gap' for the Night Elves in TFT, of heavy melee meat shield support). Night Elves missing a STR hero? Humans missing an AGI hero? Orcs missing an Orcish Chieftain? Undead missing a Ghostly Assassin? All of this and more!
(note: this sort of overlaps with my posts in another topic)

Alternatively, another great idea is "add Neutral hireable Heroes to the Tavern". LOADS of great races & ideas to pick from there. Plenty of space in the existing Tavern (and I know a great way to add more ). You can even split this up into two; go with "add a hero of the same race as an existing hero" (i.e. Goblin, Forsaken, Naga, Elemental, etc), or "add a hero of a race that isn't in the Tavern" (i.e. Quillboar, Bandit, Faceless One, Troll (dark/forest/etc), etc).

And if it's a matter of "I'm a modeller/designer but don't have any cool ideas", well shucks. This is a great place for that. Heck, I alone have nearly dozens of ideas that would be not only cool, but useful.

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TL;DR - What about "add a Melee/Tavern hero"? Four contests for the price of one.

 

[Almia]

Yeah,neutrals!

 

[HammerFist132]

I see to this need to be balanced, but balanced with what, heroes with melee maps or what. That is only thing what I do not understand. Should we change this hero with some else in altar or put it in tavern or just blank map?

 

[CoLd Bon3]

Uh... when does this contest start? I might participate.

EDIT : Is it sure that the hero must have 6 abilities (because a lot of people argue)?

 

[Kyrbi0]

I see to this need to be balanced, but balanced with what, heroes with melee maps or what. That is only thing what I do not understand. Should we change this hero with some else in altar or put it in tavern or just blank map?

Excellent question. Also a problem of an undefined contest theme; nothing to compare to for balance & creative purposes. After all, an AoS hero for DotA or some such is made much differently than a melee hero for Wc3:TFT.

Basically, with my contest idea(s), you'd be balancing and basing off of regular Wc3:TFT heroes and races. So no "4 DD abilities" or "4 passives" or "3 auras", no "Starfall remakes" (respect existing spells), try to balance things out race-wise (i.e. each race has about 1 major "Transformation" ability, etc), etc.

 

[Adiktuz]

w8, I think the contest header is outdated... it says that map file size limit is 4mb for it to be playable in MP when its already been 8mb since a long time ago... not that serious though as the submissions are normally below 1mb...

and I think the previous HCs made it clear that its about a hero that is to be played at the normal type of wc3 gameplay (ladder, melee however you want to call it)...

I have no problem in having a hero with 4 DDs or 4 passives or all auras etc... it's all up to how you want the hero to blend with the target race... its up to the judges to decide how well or how not well they blend in...

as for the submission style, I think its good to have a standard map type, like maybe put the hero on an altar of your target race if you want it to be race specific or put it in tavern if its a neutral type hero...

this is all based from my experience in judging the last two HCs...

 

[Almia]

Now what?