Hero Contest #6: The First Invasion ~ The Poll

[Almia]

Wait,ill grab my poison

 

[RED BARON]

We can wait Its all good as long as there is updates to keep us informed of progress.

 

[Maker]

I have checked 14/23 spells.

This includes object editor stuff, triggers/coding, tooltips and icons, some balance and stat analysis and inspection of sounds and visuals of spells.

Synergy and concept has been left on lesser emphasis, I will focus on them once I have checked every hero.

 

[RED BARON]

Woa maker, sounds good Well, now that you mention it I think I should have considered sounds more in my own (though I wouldn't have had the time most likely) and when I looked at others.

 

[Anachron]

Today I wanna make another review.
After I finished all I have to recreate some reviews because I changed my template.

 

[Maker]

Only fitting that my 6,666th post is in HC#6 thread.

I have checked out all heroes thoroughly and taken notes.

Now round 2 begins, I will go through them again incase something has been missed and now that I have seen all the entries, there's more perspective.

A few general issues that I want to point out in spell creation:

• Set the death type of your dummies to Can't raise, does not decay. Otherwise the dummies will stay in the game for 90 seconds after they die
• Dummies shouldn't give vision in most cases
• Learn to use Follow through time with Channel based abilities. It affects the cast animation duration
• With tooltips, you can't go wrong if you mimic standard Blizzard abilities

These issues came up in many, many heroes. With some of the heroes I was not sure if I was reading a novel or a tooltip, looking at a rainbow or reading spell description.

To end the post in a more positive note, I've have had fun testing your creations and there are many great spells and ideas. Hopefully the reviews are worthy of the contest entries and the workload invested in them.

 

[RED BARON]

Set the death type of your dummies to Can't raise, does not decay. Otherwise the dummies will stay in the game for 90 seconds after they die

One learns something new every day. (Being the knowledge that I forgot to do that - To fast work, too long since last - So yea, good reminder).

 

[GreeN!X]

• Set the death type of your dummies to Can't raise, does not decay. Otherwise the dummies will stay in the game for 90 seconds after they die
• Dummies shouldn't give vision in most cases

Oooh~ Didn't know that. I know that this is one of the issues with my hero.. Thanks for da tips..

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Oh Ghod, can't wait for the results
the suspense is killing me!

 

[Adiktuz]

Been ages since I've checked The Hive... busy life... can't wait to see the results of this...

 

[Almia]

@Adiktuz
Me too

 

[Maker]

Whooah, we're half way there!

 

[Pharaoh_]

I bet that the people listed in there wished there were actual buttons to check their reviews

 

[Kyrbi0]

Wow. I'm impressed. Lots of detail, it looks like. Don't wear yourself out.

 

[Anachron]

Good news: I just finished another review.
This means I have 11 done and 12 remaining.
However, I plan to make a few ones this weekend.

 

[Almia]

so that means we are going to wait for two weeks

 

[RED BARON]

so that means we are going to wait for two weeks

Not sure how you came up with that? Sounded to me like it was way closer

 

[Anachron]

Two weeks? I don't know. Whenever I have time I make reviews.
Guys, I know it's hard but please have some patience.

If it would be up to me I would already have finished those reviews.
But I am kinda busy in my real life so whenever I am not working and still a little bit awake I turn on the pc and check the heroes. =)

 

[Almia]

well,that's because they are in a half list

 

[RED BARON]

Guys, I know it's hard but please have some patience.

Yea, getting a good and useful review takes time, so fully understandable I personally can just wait for however long it takes.

 

[Maker]

19/23 reviews done!

I'll tackle two tomorrow and the last two on thursday.

 

[Luorax]

Are you going to post them here, or only when Anachron is done as well? I just can't wait to see the reviews

 

[Maker]

I will send them to Pharaoh_ and he will post the results thread once both judges have sent their reviews to him.

 

[Luorax]

I see, just the way I thought we'd get them. Well, looks like we'll have to wait a little more then

 

[Anachron]

I just finished another review guys.
Sorry but I am really giving my best to take time for HC #6.

Edit:
Meh it's very late but I will finish another review. Just to show you how much I care.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Thank you guys for your devotion, I know you're both trying your best not to leave anything unnoticed and I really appreciate it!

 

[RED BARON]

I just finished another review guys.
Sorry but I am really giving my best to take time for HC #6.

No need to apologize - The fact that time and care is being put into the judgment is not a bad thing And as said before - As long as something shows things are happening in the thread patience is not a problem.

 

[Anachron]

Okay I wanna make it short.
Bad news: I am kinda busy right now in work + private life.
Good news: I still managed to finish another spell review in train and plan to do at least one more later.

Update:
I try to finish all my reviews this weekend. Will review 2 more heroes now.

Update2:
I have 8 reviews left now, so it means 15 are done.
After all are done I will check them once more and if every flaw is removed I will finalize them and send them to Pharaoh_.

 

[Luorax]

Awesome! So that means we can have the results soon, right? Wouldn't have thought that we'd get them before the second semester starts (for me), even if it's gonna be that clutch.

 

[Maker]

I finished my reviews. Feels good.

I'll double check that I calculated the scores correctly and fix grammatical errors, but other than that, I'm done!

 

[Kyrbi0]

If our review is done, can we request the review for our own entry privately? Or does that fly in the face of convention?

Good work, Anachron; we're rooting for you.

 

[Maker]

If our review is done, can we request the review for our own entry privately? Or does that fly in the face of convention?

Have patience, only a few more days

I sent my reviews to Pharaoh_

 

[Anachron]

I am doing another review right now.
Please guys, just have some patience
The end is near. I mean, the day of the year 2013

Edit:
6 reviews left, one of them is half-reviewed.

 

[Pharaoh_]

Maker has indeed sent me the reviews and I can tell with certainty that they are amazing

Anachron, the focus is on you now! Keep up the good work ^^

 

[RED BARON]

This is getting damn exciting

 

[Almia]

Yeah!
But sadly im in the (secret) place in Maker's review.
Sigh

 

[Anachron]

I feel under pressure because Pharaoh_ said his reviews are awesome
So maybe I should put even more work in mine Damn.

Edit:
4 reviews left!

Edit2:
Meh, I won't make it today Even though there are only 3 reviews left!
Next week I will do my best to finish them asap.

 

[Kyrbi0]

No rush. I can be patient (i.e. for the totality of the judging); was just curious as to my personal standing, independent of the others. : )

_Pharaoh, I checked the first post to see how this whole "judges vs. poll" thing worked, and there didn't seem to be any of the customary information as to how judging and polling interact. How is the winner decided? Are the pollsters or the judges more in control of this? (I suppose I assumed the judges would vote the top '#th' number of entrants that won the poll, but apparently that's not the case).

Just curious.

 

[Amargaard]

It has always been and will always be the judges' reviews which count the most.

 

[Maker]

The poll counts for 30% of the final score, and as there are two judges, both can affect 35% of the score.

 

[Anachron]

I just hope our judgement doesn't differ too much from each other.

 

[Maker]

I don't mind if they do. The reviews are based partly on personal views, though there is a lot of modding knowledge and understanding to support them. There is so much to check with each hero that one is bound to miss something that the other notices. One might emphasize something different than the other. In this sense I think it is greate we have two judges, it will all balance out I'm sure.

If you have a great hero, it will rank highly no matter who the judges are.

 

[Kyrbi0]

The poll counts for 30% of the final score, and as there are two judges, both can affect 35% of the score.

Interesting method. I too agree, having 'n+1' judges is important, so that one viewpoint doesn't dominate the whole contest (point of the poll, I suppose; only better because the judge actually looks at your entry :<...).

I've also seen it done where a series of judges each judge an aspect of the entry they specialize in, so as to divide up the work (i.e. a coding whiz judges the programming aspect, a design guru judges design & balance, an artsy-type judges the aesthetics, etc).

 

[Anachron]

Meh I know you all probably killed me for this.
But really, this weekend should be the weekend that we can release the results!
I will start working on the first reviews after my sleep.

Edit:
2 reviews left.
Sadly some mappers made it hard for me to review their stuff ...

 

[RED BARON]

Edit:
2 reviews left.
Sadly some mappers made it hard for me to review their stuff ...

Hoping I aren't among those And guessing code library is the trouble part for those reviews?

 

[Anachron]

No Red-Baron, I already finished your review.
One more review to go, I just finished another one.

Edit:
Do you guys know what just happend?
I finished my reviews and sent them to Pharaoh_!

 

[Luorax]

Gz! Now we shall move on to pestering Pharaoh instead of you.

 

[RED BARON]

Oh Glory And congratz on the finished reviews

 

[Chaosy]

finally, ^^ would love to see the resualts. Sadly I failed badly, I didn't do any object editing which I'm SURE maker will give me less points for

 

[Maker]

finally, ^^ would love to see the resualts. Sadly I failed badly, I didn't do any object editing which I'm SURE maker will give me less points for

Let's just say I hope you do better in the next contest. I'm sure you've learned a lot.

 

[Orcnet]

are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? lol Anachron and Maker just kidding