Geoset Importing and Exporting Guide

[-Peper-]

Geoset Importing and Exporting Guide
By -Peper-

Requirements:

Vertex Modifier (Optional)
War3 Model Editor

Introduction:

What will we do in this tutorial?

We will learn the basics of geoset exporting and importing using Magos' Model Editor.​

Do we need the vertex modifier tool?

Nah, it's optional. It helps keep the polies low.​

Note:

You should have at least an average knowledge of Magos' Model Editor.

In this tutorial, we will learn the basics of geoset exporting and importing. We will be making a Rifleman with a Footman's head.​

Part 1: Exporting

• First, open the Footman's model using the MPQ Browser.
  
• Second, rip off his body. This can be simply done by scaling the body part to 0. (NOTE: If you have experience with the Vertex Modifier, use that tool for this part instead.)
  
• See? Now he is decapitated.
  
• Next, find the appropriate geoset that contains the head.
  To do this easily:
  
  1. Open the Geoset Manager.
  2. Randomly select one Geoset and set the Material ID to [none].
  3. See if the head disappears, and if it does, then export that geoset. If not, then try another geoset until you find the right one.

Part 2: Importing

• Open the Rifleman model using the MPQ browser.
  
• Next, scale his head to 0.
• From your MPQ browser, search for Textures/Footman.blp. Right-click it and select "Use As Texture".
• Open the material manager, right-click anywhere and select "Create New".
  
• A new window will open, and right click inside it again. Select Create new.
• Another window will open again, and set the Texture ID to Textures/Footman.blp. Click OK on everything. Make sure you remember what the name of the newly created material is.
  
• This is the IMPORTANT PART, bone attaching! Why?! Because if you don't attach it to a bone, it will be invisible in-game.
• Go to the node manager, and search Head-Ref.
• You will see a bone-logo thing (must be a bone), and beside it is CYLINDER03, CYLINDER04, and Object4.
• Remember the most suitable, Object4.
  
• Go back to the geoset manager, right-click, and select Import.
• Import the Footman head, and when prompted to, select Object4.
  
• A new geoset has now been created, so double-click it and set the Material ID to that of your created material.
  
• The Footman's head has now appeared! Move it around to connect it to the body.
  
• And FINISH! You made yourself a new unit, and now save it!

Important Note:
The Decay Bone animation doesn't display his head, so please view the following tutorial for the solution:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...2/fixing-faulty-death-decay-animations-40794/

 

[PurgeandFire]

When the head's scale is reduced to 0, are the vertices removed or still there? If they are still there, then that might not be the best idea as that will result in unnecessary polygons in the model. So, is there any other way to do it in Magos?

If there is no other way, then that method should be fine. =)

 

[-Peper-]

Sadly, the vertex cannot deleted.
So the size will be pumped.

 

[snowman990]

hmmm i think i've seen this in youtube...but THANKS ALOT this is very usefull

 

[Devine]

http://www.oinkerwinkle.com/tools/tutorialheadswitch1.html
http://www.oinkerwinkle.com/tools/tutorialheadswitch2.html
Gosh, don't you feel silly now?

 

[-Peper-]

OOooops, i feel silly now...
Btw, the title is "Geoset Export and Import with Magos"

 

[-Peper-]

BUMP~
Anything to add? Complete?

 

[PurgeandFire]

I fixed it up a bit, the grammar anyway. Nice job, ~Approved. Sorry for the long delay.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

How to add the wood to a peasant-type unit that had his original wood removed? I tried to follow your steps for the shoulder bone but the wood does not appear! how to?

 

[-Peper-]

Is the bone you are attaching to is really a bone?
I mean in node manager the sign is a blue bone.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

Well, let's just say this model is a ghoul modified and it had his "wood on shoulder" deleted to delete his worker task(animations are deleted but i fixed that).
Now, i checked the ghoul's bone where supposely the wood was on to and i found on node manager the text "lumber" next to a blue bone icon, right under another blue bone icon named "shoulder2" which was under a helper called "Bone_Arm1_L".
What i did so far:
I created new bones exactly like these ones i just told but.....heck, i'm seeing unequal things now here. :/ see attached images.
I surely thought wrong when i saw both "Bone_Arm1_L". The first is a helper(the original ghoul's) but the other is a bone itself. I feel a bit stuck now.

EDIT: Ok i managed to make it show up but i still can't put it on the shoulder, it only goes in the same space of the left arm. It was invisible because the material ID was missing so i temporarly set it to one of the model ones to see where it is. I guess i have to import peasant.blp to gain a common lumber look, but how? I tried to import peasant.blp in texture manager but there's not a new voice in material ID.

 

[-Peper-]

When you import peasant.blp, make a new material and select the peasant.blp. And reference the geoset to the new material.

 

[LordPerenolde II]

When you import peasant.blp, make a new material and select the peasant.blp. And reference the geoset to the new material.

Hahhhhh!! It works!!!!! ^^ +rep! Now the next and last thing. How do i change a model(for expample a spider egg) turning it to a geoset and repeat the same process?

EDIT: i did it, imported geoset, placed material id etc. etc. but the egg bends toward a different point when i play its animation instead of how i place it in the model editor.

EDIT 2: i managed to make it appear properly. Now i only have to see if it shows in game.

 

[alphajethro10]

hello, i tried this with weapon but the weapon's skin/texture is different. i did the mpq browser to "used as texture"
it is okay if i use other unit model? (not from war3mpq)
or i should use war3mpq unit so the weapon's skin will appear correctly?

 

[-Peper-]

You can use other skins and models (like gun skin if you want to attach one) but you must import the skin too if you will import the model with custom texture.

 

[alphajethro10]

You can use other skins and models (like gun skin if you want to attach one) but you must import the skin too if you will import the model with custom texture.

when im changing texture the edited model , my portrait can't display or bugged
but imported with the portrait model. sry for bothering again

 

[-Peper-]

Because that model didn't have an external portrait or camera.

 

[alphajethro10]

Because that model didn't have an external portrait or camera.

oh i see, i need camera manager. thnx very much. im learning with the magos war model editor

 

[Arisaitou]

this is actually very easy , and for those who doesn't know, read this -peper- tutorial!

It will help you~
and thanks peper, it helped me a bit coz i know how to do it but i didn't know how the heck it works, because of you i know how it works now >.< + REP!!

 

[-Peper-]

And just a suggestion for everyone, use mdlvis instead of vertex modifier. Because vertex modifier often cause models to crash

 

[Arisaitou]

oh yeah, i forgot the rep >.< heres your rep -Peper- ..>.<!!!

 

[Arisaitou]

use mdlvis to delete the unused vertexes
it will be easier to do it in mdlvis
i hope you, peper, make a tut using mdlvis

 

[Orcnet]

just made my day, still viewing it

 

[asdfADRiAN]

I cant believe I didnt see this on the oinker tools website before.

Edit: Any alternative way to physically remove the Vertex rather than scale?

 

[-Peper-]

Using Mdlvis or Oinkerwinkle's vertex modifier

 

[mischief123]

is it possible to edit the skin of a new model you've made?

 

[-Peper-]

No connection. But you can always edit it, that's how custom skin made.
And skin of every model can be always ever, ever, edited. Note that.

 

[-Grendel]

really wonderful tutorial. i owe all of my modeling knowledge on this tutorial

 

[SuperFalconButcher]

Article is good but for me it wasn't helpful^^

 

[GrapesOfWath]

Uhhhhhh, could you maybe add a tutorial for weapon changing?

 

[T.ReXs]

The Footman's head has now appeared! Move it around to connect it to the body.

how to make that? iam newbie

 

[-Peper-]

Select all the footman's head vertices (they will turn green) then select Transformation>Translation in the upper window in Model Editor. Then manipulate the X,Y,Z
X=Front&Back
Y=Left&Right
Z=Up&Down
So you leave X and Y to 0, and set the Z to -5 (or minus whatever) until it connects.