Future of humans?

[Deleted member 219079]

This is speculation, you need no expertise to join the discussion. Separate different assumptions from each other to create list-kind of structure for your answer.

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As disabled, near-sighted, less musculated, color/partially color blinded and/or sicker etc. individuals can nowadays easily get to the breeding age, human's gene pool becomes weaker and sicker. Also everyone will carry the same skin color.

Less nutrients gatherable from the nature will be available to human. Synthetic solutions will be ready by that time so I doubt it really changes human itself, but this is still an interesting assumption.

Regarding internet, everyone will know what it is, if not have access to it. Everything will be logged (if not already) and super computers will profile logged information under most probable individual, the ultimate goal being to create an undeniable connection between an alias and a person. This helps in removing anonymity and therefore removing free speech from a country, giving media 100% control over people's beliefs, which in return eases the manipulation of people's minds.

Different kinds of lacks of resources will drive unsatisfied minds into forming parties. As freedom is a belief that will inevitably spread to everywhere (even the area of North Korea, but NK will not be present then ofc), people will be determined that change is possible, it'd just need their active voice on the matter. In order to retain balance, countries will satisfy, directly or indirectly, the most furious parties, which further infuriates the more quiet ones, leading them to be more noisy. This will attract the leading minds towards the idea of manipulating the citizens in order to retain peace (see previous one).

By the time birth rates will be at a decline, human population will be gargantuan. Easily 12 billion.

Countries will always be a thing. As will tension between ideologies (or rather the supporters, the enbodiment for ideas). Crimes will be present. It will be impossible for humans to achieve truly unified society.

People will become more introverted and reserved, but this trait will be the favored one (see Japan). Constant socializing will be a necessity for a sane mind, still.

More and more people will end up atheistic. This is already inevitable because joining a religion requires more than leaving one, but also because people will be taught critical thinking from a younger age.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The future of humanity is not humans but rather what humans become.

 

[Roland]

 

[Direfury]

My belief stems from human history. We've made more advancements in a century than our predecessors had in milennia. We are, all of us, essentially equals to the gods of the past, and are still evolving in the technological sense.

My personal belief system strongly and almost dogmatically emphasizes and glorifies personal strength, in all its forms, though I know that might never really catch on. As a result, I believe that if it is even possible, should we survive long enough, we may one day discover a way to escape this universe, before its eventual destruction. I believe that while we humans, and our very reality are finite, we could outlive it.

As a quick aside, this belief of mine, and my insistance that no matter what, humanity deserves the chance to reach that point... It has led to an extreme viewpoint. If we were made aware of a meteor that would rip through the earth like wet paper, and we could do something about it, I believe that no mercy should be given to anyone that attempts to stop us from saving our planet. Anyone that puts humanity at risk should be executed.

Back on topic, though, I believe that, if they even exist, those "Greys" that people claim abducted and experimented on them, could be something like us, from somewhere else in the multiverse, after aeons of existance, using us to learn more about their own past. Perhaps, one day, thats what we will become. Multiversal drifters, with incredible, almost incomprehensible technological might at our disposal.

To an extent, we're already at that sort of level, in the eyes of the people of the past.

 

[Edge45]

I agree upon how humans will become weaker for every generations that pass. There are still many possibilities on how man's future will become, such as they could end or they could evolve.

But in my opinion, the world-leading governments will seek to unite the world, disposing those that stands in their way and leaks their secrets. Using the media, tricking people, manipulating beliefs, etc. Conflicts, revolutions and wars will be unavoidable (example is the Middle East).
Technology also arises, fueling and empowering greater countries and cause more holocaust. Gradually population will increase the more of humans are born and the more will be the next, which will also fuel the desperation of countries to expand or fall.

Because of the media and manipulation, the world could be united by great men in alliance without the knowledge of the people. Though there is truly no unity as long as there are those that know their motives and resist them.
Regardless, the population have already increased too much as these times come, the leaders would try to exterminate and decrease the population using methods of any. Or they could expand to the rest of the planets that are inhabitable.
Still, there is no telling.

But humankind will end (unless they can ressurect dead people)

 

[Chaosy]

The future of humanity is destruction. Sooner or later, by one means or another.

 

[The_Silent]

Individuals may carry our civilization forward with science, that may overcome our flaws as a species.

Currently, a society based on over-consumption doesn't stand much of a chance in a world where resources is limited, and very hard to transport to and from space.
We will experience a societal crash in the foreseeable future, when; all "easily" available resources is used up, and/or our population on earth grows to a point where it no longer can support itself.
That, mixed with climate change, and whatever wars nations will start to sustain themselves, does not bode well for the immediate future of our species.

 

[Eagle XI]

An global scale evolution of mankind's societal norms based on factual emergencies, such as the planet(and it's resources) being consumed up too fast.
The general standards in human behaviour to develop into an cold pragmatist approach, to the extent mindset would get more akin to say, an amalgamation of orcs, dark elves and vampires we fictionalize in our fantasy works rather than keep adhering to what we got to accept today as 'human', as it would become increasingly 'outdated and unusable' in the face of harsh reality. This change further fueled by mankind's survivalist instincts gained throughout it's evolutionary behaviour spanning throughout the long past of terran life.

Even that is only then enough to prolong the unevitable, as the end will come when mankind has either:
- gained the means to surpass mortality, and thus everything it had achieve up until that point became suddenly irrevelant.
- decides to give up the futile(should it turn out to be truely so) pursuit, rapidly degenerating into it's primal form.

But hey certainly not going to happen during my lifespan so who cares about what happens after i have became an flower. ;p

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

humanity won't make it that far

greed mixed in with climate change means the end of the human race.

oil, coal, and other fossil fuel corporations can't be told what to do by the government. we can complain as much as we can't about it but thats not going to stop them from doing what most profits them. exploiting every possible means of generating extra income, which most of the times means damaging the climate, chance and geological structure of the Earth.

coal increases out green house gas effect more than any other resource, but it also causes shifts in the tectonic plants which can cause Earth quakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions. this may sound completely absurd but consider this, coal mining has been undertaken for the last 500 years +(on further research I discovered it is not coal mining but diamond, titanium and gold which causes earthquakes...etc)

oil has been mined from the earth for so long that it is a resource that is nearly depleted. so much so that oil miners have started employing desperate and seriously damaging efforts to extract more oil. Fracking! which can also cause minor earth tremors, but more importantly It pollutes bore holes that supply water to farms which ends up on your dinner plat! Has anyone else seen those videos of farmers showing how they can now light their drinking water on FIRE!!!!! Fuck!!!! Now let's water our corpses which diesel and poisonous chemicals ^-^ ... x_x

More importantly than all of this is GMO foods!!!

Say has anyone of you guys bitten into an apple that just so happens to be flame retardant?

Well GMO foods are, worst is that food companies don't have to tell you their foods are genetically modified.

If the flame retardant bit doesn't scare you. What about the fact that the foods are immune to weedicides. You know that stuff they spray on plants to kill them? That poisonous stuff that kills everything it touches... that stuff sprayed on by people in hazmat suits? Why would you want a plant that's immuned to poison, Fuck the plant! If it kills plants what does it do to you? Plus there is more!

A study into GMO foods tested on rats, showed that if rats only have GMO foods to eat they live shorter lives, develop anti social behavior and grow balled. Now the things that they failed to mention was the reason for their shorter life span was because they develop multiple tumors and ATE EACH OTHER!

Fuck it sounds like a zombie invasion!

Worse is that they said the study would only reflect in humans after 20 years

But you can still buy some zombie inducing apples at the local grocery shop ^-^

But wait there is more!

Nope actually that's all the paranoid stuff I got. Still I'm sure you guys can see my point, this is only possible because greed rules the world not wellbeing

 

[pyf]

The future of humanity is not humans but rather what humans become.

[...] if they even exist, those "Greys" that people claim abducted and experimented on them, could be something like us, from somewhere else in the multiverse, after aeons of existance, using us to learn more about their own past. Perhaps, one day, thats what we will become. Multiversal drifters, with incredible, almost incomprehensible technological might at our disposal. [...]

[...] the world-leading governments will seek to unite the world, disposing those that stands in their way and leaks their secrets. [...] Technology also arises, fueling and empowering greater countries and cause more holocaust. [...]

Still, there is no telling.
But humankind will end

The future of humanity is destruction. Sooner or later, by one means or another.

Individuals may carry our civilization forward with science, that may overcome our flaws as a species. [...]

[...] This change further fueled by mankind's survivalist instincts gained throughout it's evolutionary behaviour spanning throughout the long past of terran life.

Even that is only then enough to prolong the unevitable, as the end will come [...]

Episode 'A Small Talent for War' (S01E15b, Jan 1986), from the American 1980s TV series The Twilight Zone:

Hidden

 

[neven1]

Well unless humans research more of that green thechnology then i doubt they will have a future.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

what do we intend to do about it?

 

[neven1]

Ah what ever.Humans are just another species no big deal.Not every species has to survive.Humans had plenty of time to develop it's just it is just if they didn't manage survive guess they were never meant to.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Homo sapiens is very young species tho, oldest fossils discovered are 200 000 years.

We take a long time to reproduce, 20 years is when female is most fertile, and the quantity of offspring is small. Significant evolution will take at least millions of years.

You can make a difference though, go tell the leaders of these states to get rid of their nuclear scheisse.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

what about us immortals? without the human race we will just have a shitty planet without technology

I don't want to live on a shitty planet :-(

I believe it is time to take action!

ok I want the murder porn team to start working on tearing down fossils fuel companies

and I want our hive brand trolls to begin the rebellion against GMO food farms (which-on topic- by the way produces crops which can't reproduce*ie doesn't produce seeds* ie slowly destroys the possiblity of future crops' ie future food shortages are over due)

ok everybody Go Go Go!

 

[Chaosy]

ok I want the murder porn team to start working on tearing down fossils fuel companies

Extinction of humans.

Prime proof.

 

[Kyrbi0]

It is all so sad

 

[MURDER KING]

Future ,Future what have you reserved for me
With all this peace in this world future has reserved only civil wars for us in all part of this world.
But we never know when?
Anyway bee on your own feet to survive

 

[Edge45]

No matter what the future of our race is, we that are still alive today won't live to see it. The burden will be to those who will, sad for them so to say.

It'll be death and extinction in the end, so I guess this is the part where "Enjoy life" will really be a good saying.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

No matter what the future of our race is, we that are still alive today won't live to see it. The burden will be to those who will, sad for them so to say.

It'll be death and extinction in the end, so I guess this is the part where "Enjoy life" will really be a good saying.

GMO foods take effect in 20 years, so unless your 80 you still get to enjoy the zombie apocalypse

 

[Edge45]

GMO foods take effect in 20 years, so unless your 80 you still get to enjoy the zombie apocalypse

Judging from the lifespan and health of a person, I doubt that I could even live that long. Still, I'm more on Pandemics or Government killings than zombies and stuffs, already they're trying to reduce the population as it uncontrollably increases.

As souls are put to rest, more are made to be rested.

 

[Shadow Fury]

It really scares me to think about the future when our present sucks so much. Judging the current circumstances, I only foresee destruction followed by extinction. Planet Earth can live without humans but we cannot live without planet Earth, although we're doing so much to destroy it utterly. How stupid...

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

I did a little more research on the GMO foods

Genetically Modified Food: What are GMOs? PART 2

if your too lazy to read it basically details the following, 'side effects' of eating GMO.

*multiple tumors
*kidney and liver failure
*mental disorders
*server obesity
*cannibalism (zombification)
*infertility
*birth defects
*death

the studies under taken by the FDA only consist of a maximum 90 day trial, but tumors and mental disorderd take time to become apparent which is why this 18 month trial is the only one shoulding these results.

smells like corruption of the FDA's part.

 

[neven1]

I did a little more research on the GMO foods

Genetically Modified Food: What are GMOs? PART 2

if your too lazy to read it basically details the following, 'side effects' of eating GMO.

*multiple tumors
*kidney and liver failure
*mental disorders
*server obesity
*cannibalism (zombification)
*infertility
*birth defects
*death

the studies under taken by the FDA only consist of a maximum 90 day trial, but tumors and mental disorderd take time to become apparent which is why this 18 month trial is the only one shoulding these results.

smells like corruption of the FDA's part.

So GMO food is not for humans or animals?Why is it still on?

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Why no control rats? Shady research which seemingly did not answer the criticism they had received in the past.

I'm sure you can find better studies on the subject though, there's lots of controversy around gene manipulation in general.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Why no control rats? Shady research which seemingly did not answer the criticism they had received in the past.

I'm sure you can find better studies on the subject though, there's lots of controversy around gene manipulation in general.

They had control rats but the FDA and USDA have criticised the research because they did the study on such a small group of rats

10 control rats
10 GMO feed rats

2 control rats had unexpectedly shorter life spans. no given cause for their deaths, which I admit is sketchy but it might just be normal I guess....
but
8 of the GMO rats died and not without cause. the other 2 suffered side effects which ranged from balding to cannibalism.

they said it will take 20 years for the same results to show in humans, which I would say is why these products haven't been removed... only I know it's due to corruption and the FDA's limited 90s study which only covers 7-9 years in humans compared to the 18 months studies which cover the effects of a lifespans worth of effects in eating GMO.

other studies have been done, but they all have been attacked and ridiculed to the point that it's just not worth doing and studing on a personal level. no one wants to be labeled a conspirator in the science community.

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Can you just give a link for the control rats?

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

uhm... Google it

here's something from the link

It goes on to say: “The animals on the GMO diet suffered mammary tumors, as well as severe
liver and kidney damage. The researchers said 50 percent of males and 70 percent of females
died prematurely, compared with only 30 percent and 20 percent in the control group.”

 

[Deleted member 219079]

Please give me an exact link of what you're referencing. I'm sure there's lots of topics on the matter as I already told you, I'm only interested in the article you're talking about.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Please give me an exact link of what you're referencing. I'm sure there's lots of topics on the matter as I already told you, I'm only interested in the article you're talking about.

well its from the link I provided....

uhm... I don't know what else to tell you besides read

Genetically Modified Food: What are GMOs? PART 2

you can Google the name of the study if you want the raw data

 

[Deleted member 219079]

If it's that same garbage link, I can say that it was a random occurrence.

 

[neven1]

Wait on that link says fear god?

What kind of idiot would promote fear as a good thing and pretend he speaks the truth?

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

If it's that same garbage link, I can say that it was a random occurrence.

hmm....

www.google.co.za/url?q=http://www.e...ggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNEdCeWzwXRkHSjncDpKj8gVacDjNg

that's the actual study data

 

[neven1]

hmm....

www.google.co.za/url?q=http://www.enveurope.com/content/pdf/s12302-014-0014-5.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiSicCBuf3OAhWCqxoKHaFHCgQQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNEdCeWzwXRkHSjncDpKj8gVacDjNg

that's the actual study data

Why aren't you responding to what i asked you? ;c

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Why aren't you responding to what i asked you? ;c

Which response?

The god one??? Because I have no idea what you are talking about(You are the Troll?)
Or
The one about why are they doing this? Because I've said multiple times it's due to corruption

 

[neven1]

Which response?

The god one??? Because I have no idea what you are talking about(You are the Troll?)

You know what im talking about.When you go to Genetically Modified Food: What are GMOs? PART 2 that you've provided in top left corner it says "O you who believe.Fear god and speak the truth".

So are you going to responde to this or dodge it again?

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

You know what im talking about.When you go to Genetically Modified Food: What are GMOs? PART 2 that you've provided in top left corner it says "O you who believe.Fear god and speak the truth".

So are you going to responde to this or dodge it again?

That is the catch phrase of the website, nothing to do with the actual article

I'm so disappointed in you neven1 -_-

 

[neven1]

That is the catch phrase of the website, nothing to do with the actual article

I'm so disappointed in you neven1 -_-

Actually if the website promotes something stupid as that you should question the credibility of the source.I'm disappointed in you not actually researching this through and already posting it here as a fact.

You know i just stumble upon this Scientists react to republished Séralini GMO maize rat study | Genetic Literacy Project

So before you call people a troll and express how disappointed you are in them check your sources first and don't trust religious websites since they tend to be fake.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Actually if the website promotes something stupid as that you should question the credibility of the source.I'm disappointed in you not actually researching this through and already posting it here as a fact.

You know i just stumble upon this Scientists react to republished Séralini GMO maize rat study | Genetic Literacy Project

So before you call people a troll and express how disappointed you are in them check your sources first.

I saw that as well, but their reasons for discrediting their studies are circumstance at best

Ok I agree with one or too points

They say that they rats that they used for the study are prone to cancer, which is dick! Why use rats already susceptible to cancer to do a test. It could be justified but no... just wrong. I mean they could say ... I'm to tired/lazy to explain.

But otherwise I see nothing to debunk the study

 

[neven1]

The point is if multiple scientist and independed research haven't came to same conclusion why would you here on Hiveworkshop promote this as a fact?

What you see is irrelevant since you have no PhD in this field.Unless you have multiple confirmation about this,you can link any open source on internet claiming thing or two as much as you want.You still wouldn't be credible until many many other scientist reach this conclusion with mutiple independed research/test..

And no they were more then circumstancial and you know this since you read it as you already have said.

Just answer me one more thing please.Do you know how long GMO has been used?Where are these mysterious side affects showing up? ;p

 

[pyf]

Please give me an exact link of what you're referencing. I'm sure there's lots of topics on the matter as I already told you, I'm only interested in the article you're talking about.

hmm....

www.google.co.za/url?q=http://www.enveurope.com/content/pdf/s12302-014-0014-5.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiSicCBuf3OAhWCqxoKHaFHCgQQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNEdCeWzwXRkHSjncDpKj8gVacDjNg

that's the actual study data

I saw that as well, but their reasons for discrediting their studies are circumstance at best

Ok I agree with one or too points
[...]
But otherwise I see nothing to debunk the study

Séralini affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

The point is if multiple scientist and independed research haven't came to same conclusion why would you here on Hiveworkshop promote this as a fact?

What you see is irrelevant since you have no PhD in this field.Unless you have multiple confirmation about this,you can link any open source on internet claiming thing or two as much as you want.You still wouldn't be credible until many many other scientist reach this conclusion with mutiple independed research/test..

And no they were more then circumstancial and you know this since you read it as you already have said.

Just answer me one more thing please.Do you know how long GMO has been used?Where are these mysterious side affects showing up? ;p

since 1994, but despite this the research was only done on herbiside and pesticide resistant Strains of GMO foods(soy and grain)

The fact that I am bringing up, is that this is the only long term research ever performed. All other research has been down for only 90 days or less, not 18 months which covers the whole human life span in relation to studies done on rats

There is a new study being done in London, but that research hasn't yet concluded anything

 

[neven1]

since 1994, but despite this the research was only done on herbiside and pesticide resistant Strains of GMO foods(soy and grain)

The fact that I am bringing up, is that this is the only long term research ever performed. All other research has been down for only 90 days or less, not 18 months which covers the whole human life span in relation to studies done on rats

There is a new study being done in London, but that research hasn't yet concluded anything

You better responde to Pyf comment

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

What is your comment @pyf?

Just providing information?

I noted that they were sued but won the court case!!!

Take that FDA!

 

[pyf]

What is your comment @pyf?
Just providing information?

I hope the link I provided will help people make their own educated opinion, on the controversy surrounding that 2012 journal article. I also hope @jondrean will not consider this link to be garbage

I used this post of yours as a starting point:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/posts/3091944/

I noted that they were sued but won the court case!!!

Take that FDA!

Not sure I understand...

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

Not sure I understand...

Well what I meant by that is that in the link you provided it says they were sued by GMO and herbicide companies for their articular, but the court ruled in their favour thus wining the case

meaning the Court found their research was in no way fraudulent(not dismissing that they maybe inaccurate)

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

These probably aren't the best articles, but I recommend stuff like this for those who state that "the world is worse present day."
The world looks like it’s getting worse. Here’s why it’s not.
Declinism: is the world actually getting worse? | Pete Etchells

 

[pyf]

Well what I meant by that is that in the link you provided it says they were sued by GMO and herbicide companies for their articular, but the court ruled in their favour thus wining the case

meaning the Court found their research was in no way fraudulent(not dismissing that they maybe inaccurate)

I am unable to find what you are referring to, by looking for the word "sue" in the Wikipedia page I provided.

 

[neven1]

I am unable to find what you are referring to, by looking for the word "sue" in the Wikipedia page I provided.

If you haven't already figured out he is the type of liar that will never admit he is lying.

 

[TheLordOfChaos201]

If you haven't already figured out he is the type of liar that will never admit he is lying.

Lawsuit [edit ]
In 2012 Séralini sued Marianne magazine and journalist Jean-Claude Jaillet for defamation after
they accused him of fraud. The High Court of Paris ruled in Seralini's favor in 2015. The court
said that the fraud allegation had first been made by Henry I. Miller in Forbes .[81]

ok I got things wrong, he sued them and won

take that journalists and magazines!