Future Colonization

[Hakeem]

Muscle atrophy and bone decay are only a very big problem in the 0 gravity environment between planets, as far as I know.

I don't think it would be a very big problem on the moon.

 

[kids711]

I dun think we can.. They didn't even invented Glass-City at all =/...

AND..

How about the stratosphere or whatever makes massive super-heated sunlight hit earth cus it has holes?.. How about.. They invented just in time the Sphere has big hole that already melted houses,humans and things!.. If it has a big Hole .. The super-heated sunlight will hit and earth will be overheated.. Lava goes up nowhere.. WE WILL DIE.. So if they don't invent any Sphere-Fixing Invention.. We are doomed..


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We best luck wish they invent just in time to fix the sphere.. Or else.. The earth will be no more a-beauty and will be lifeless..

LIFELESS = WE WILL MELT AND GET SKIN CANCER CUS OF DA MASSIVE HEAT.. CUS WE HAVE NO MORE SPHERE *I forgot what sphere it is*...

Soo..I have two answers.. Possible or Impossible.. Because the scientist can't invent to fix the sphere..

I likely than.. Mars.. Mars has unknown minerals hidden underground.. And.. They are starting to discover grasses and plants in it.. And.. If is possible to grow plants in mars.. The Humanity Will Colonize And Destroy The Nature Just What Like They Did On Earth.. So no planets can survive our Wraith.. YOU SEE OUR !..

 

[Devine]

da moon.
Remember that anime show about a war between earth and the moon colony
and there are these gian robots controlled by men and there are these heroes in bigger robots and they kill evryone so they can stop the war.

 

[brad.dude03]

In the far future hopefully terraforming technology (most likely a further evolution of Green technology) will have reached a high enough peak inorder to transform the moon into a livable world. Thats what I would hope atleast.

Mars is probably too far off for now, the moon will most likely be a first experiment in Terraforming due to its size and etc. But...then again, not much to work with considering the moon is a barren wasteland.

Meh...I'm just rambling.

That's what I'm hoping.

But then you gotta wonder... is that what we were really made for? To come in and change everything as we go, like some sort of virus?

That's what it reminds me of. We come in and set up shop. Who are we to drastically alter these planets?

But at the same time, it opens up all sorts of exciting ideas for the future. I'm not living in no space dome on a grey rock.

 

[arphax214]

i think from the far future humans will dominate first the ocean..lol haha nxt step is after that people will develop something else before going to space living..

 

[Volvox]

In the far future hopefully terraforming technology (most likely a further evolution of Green technology) will have reached a high enough peak inorder to transform the moon into a livable world. Thats what I would hope atleast.

Mars is probably too far off for now, the moon will most likely be a first experiment in Terraforming due to its size and etc. But...then again, not much to work with considering the moon is a barren wasteland.

Meh...I'm just rambling.

That's what I'm hoping.

But then you gotta wonder... is that what we were really made for? To come in and change everything as we go, like some sort of virus?

That's what it reminds me of. We come in and set up shop. Who are we to drastically alter these planets?

But at the same time, it opens up all sorts of exciting ideas for the future. I'm not living in no space dome on a grey rock.

As an amateur astronomer, i can tell you this. Moon will never support life because of:

No core activity - it's just a rock, it is not heated from within tho it used to have a molten core long time ago

No mineral soil - we all know that soil and minerals it contains are the basis of life we know

No gravity - this screws up most - moon's gravity is too weak to contain atmospheric gasses

 

[Devine]

As an amateur astronomer, i can tell you this. Moon will never support life because of:

No core activity - it's just a rock, it is not heated from within tho it used to have a molten core long time ago

No mineral soil - we all know that soil and minerals it contains are the basis of life we know

No gravity - this screws up most - moon's gravity is too weak to contain atmospheric gasses

... you got it al wrong ...
didn't you read Elenai's magik post?

 

[Volvox]

I'm having second thoughts... In case it was not sarcasm, Elenai's magik terraforming process still could not increase gravity on the moon = no atmosphere = no life.

 

[Dumblor]

I don't think that we will get out of this rock too soon. We have huge load of [random censored word] in earth. This is an objective, which can only be achieved with international coorporation (i mean- no more wars and stuff). Unstable politics would make colonization pretty hard.

 

[Volvox]

Wars run economy, as long as there is money, there will be wars. So i think we'll just have to take our petty conflicts across the solar system. IMO fighting wars in space would be far better; at least we would not destroy our planet.

 

[Arvedui]

IMO fighting wars in space would be far better; at least we would not destroy our planet.

Apparently you've never seen Star Wars. Death Star anyone?

 

[The_Silent]

Apparently you've never seen Star Wars. Death Star anyone?

The Death Star would be nearly impossible to create in real life, especially with our technology... So the joke is over.

My conclusion is that we have to find planets better suited for life than the Moon or Mars. The moon and mars would be good if we all lived in a science-fiction universe, which we don't.

If we have to wait until we have technology, the earth will probably already be dead, probably because of some other technology we invented too.

 

[Volvox]

Terraforming is not so advanced and sf-ish, would just be expensive and would take ages to give results. Also, scientists only have plans on how to do it on mars.

p.s.
the fact that it is a joke allows him to say anything, fun killer!

 

[The_Silent]

Terraforming is not so advanced and sf-ish, would just be expensive and would take ages to give results. Also, scientists only have plans on how to do it on mars.

p.s.
the fact that it is a joke allows him to say anything, fun killer!

The fact that we still can't reflect or stop Sun waves pretty much kills the Mars idea.

 

[Volvox]

Read some science stuff, one thing we're good at is greenhouse effect.

 

[brad.dude03]

Yeah, keeping sunlight in, not turning it aside.

 

[Volvox]

It's direct sunlight that owns the planet surface. The idea is to increase the overall planet temperature using greenhouse effect while reducing the surface exposure. That will reduce the day-night temperature difference and enable liquid water to stay on the surface. Increase in the overall temperature would eventually lead to ice cap melting and releasing water. There are a lot of other frozen compounds in the planet's ice caps so the scientists do not know how that would reflect on the atmosphere.

 

[Pyritie]

It's direct sunlight that owns the planet surface. The idea is to increase the overall planet temperature using greenhouse effect while reducing the surface exposure. That will reduce the day-night temperature difference and enable liquid water to stay on the surface. Increase in the overall temperature would eventually lead to ice cap melting and releasing water. There are a lot of other frozen compounds in the planet's ice caps so the scientists do not know how that would reflect on the atmosphere.

If blocking UV rays is what you want, just add ozone.

As for "terraforming" the moon, it won't be possible simply because the moon is too small to "hold on" to an atmosphere.

 

[Volvox]

Someone ain't reading And the plan was to inhabit mars with primitive extremophyllic bacteria which would produce greenhouse gasses. Just adding ozone is like trying to drain the ocean using a spoon.

 

[Pyritie]

Someone ain't reading And the plan was to inhabit mars with primitive extremophyllic bacteria which would produce greenhouse gasses. Just adding ozone is like trying to drain the ocean using a spoon.

You could probably add ozone-producing bacteria. And if there aren't bacteria like that, we could probably create some.

 

[DarkIron Dwarf]

Well we can't stay on Earth for ever so i am guessing that we might go to Mars first seeing as how there is so much to learn there.

 

[Hakeem]

But then you gotta wonder... is that what we were really made for?

Among other things.

To come in and change everything as we go, like some sort of virus?

And elephants. The thing is that a virus can only destroy.

We come in and set up shop. Who are we to drastically alter these planets?

Who's to complain? (Besides us, but that's circular logic.)

As an amateur astronomer, i can tell you this. Moon will never support life because of:

No core activity - it's just a rock, it is not heated from within tho it used to have a molten core long time ago

No mineral soil - we all know that soil and minerals it contains are the basis of life we know

No gravity - this screws up most - moon's gravity is too weak to contain atmospheric gasses

We do not terraform the moon (as you say later). What we do is import that stuff from Earth. Then we can set up bubbles containing those 3 things.

I don't think that we will get out of this rock too soon. We have huge load of [random censored word] in earth. This is an objective, which can only be achieved with international coorporation (i mean- no more wars and stuff). Unstable politics would make colonization pretty hard.

They coexist. While our governments may be at war, scientists tend to get along pretty well about this.

Wars run economy, as long as there is money, there will be wars.

War does not run economy. It is very profitable, but it is not by any means the reason economy exists.

So i think we'll just have to take our petty conflicts across the solar system. IMO fighting wars in space would be far better; at least we would not destroy our planet.

War is not the reason for destroying our planet. We do that other ways.

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One thing you may not realize about Mars is that it has no molten core. This means it has no magnetosphere. This is why it has a much thinner atmosphere. The solar wind from the sun blew it away. If we want a better atmosphere on Mars, we still need bubbles like we would on the moon.

 

[Dumblor]

They coexist. While our governments may be at war, scientists tend to get along pretty well about this.

Scientists won't defend stuff against sabotage etc. Let's say America wants to colonize some random planet. The chance that terrorists would sabotage the whole effort is quite big. Isn't it ?

 

[Hakeem]

Absolutely not.

Explosion at a mall? "We're under attack!"
Explosion at NASA? "Those crazy scientists."
The point of terrorism is to cause terror. They don't do that by attacking places that explode without their help.

And scientists can be very sensitive about their research. You want credit for it, you need to make sure nobody else releases it first.

 

[reza sword2]

Lol, that's so disturbing cause it's true.

Colonization in Mars? I thought that Martians own that place.

 

[Pyritie]

One thing you may not realize about Mars is that it has no molten core. This means it has no magnetosphere. This is why it has a much thinner atmosphere. The solar wind from the sun blew it away. If we want a better atmosphere on Mars, we still need bubbles like we would on the moon.

Good point. I was not aware of this.

 

[Volvox]

It is correct that mars no longer has magnetospehre, but it does have molten core. Consider that Mars is about half the size of earth in diameter so it's tectonic movement must have stopped earlier.
Originally posted by Wikipedia:

Current models of the planet's interior imply a core region about 1,480 kilometres in radius, consisting primarily of iron with about 14–17% sulfur. This iron sulfide core is partially fluid, and has twice the concentration of the lighter elements than exist at Earth's core. The core is surrounded by a silicate mantle that formed many of the tectonic and volcanic features on the planet, but now appears to be inactive.

Obviously, magma flow has been stopped and the main magnetic field no longer exists, but the former tectonic plates still act like giant magnets themselves. Who knows, maybe their magnetic fields will be enough for small colonies in the future.