Fortress Siege - 1.78b

[Tranquil]

I changed the snapshooter skin with warcraft one so i doesn't need to import custom skin.

 

[HFR]

O RLY? But he still needs an lvl 4 ability and Staff of Teleportation. Also, 2 of his spells are the same of the ranger lol...

And, after some tinking, I realized that the Fortress is of the humans, right? Then why the druid is a night elf? You can use this skin along with the Furion model:

Prosecutor

I think is for the Druid of the Talon, but at least it's human...

 

[light bolt30]

hey culd u plz raise the heroes lvls in ur next versions??

still good 8/10

 

[Tranquil]

O RLY? But he still needs an lvl 4 ability and Staff of Teleportation. Also, 2 of his spells are the same of the ranger lol...

And, after some tinking, I realized that the Fortress is of the humans, right? Then why the druid is a night elf? You can use this skin along with the Furion model:

Prosecutor

I think is for the Druid of the Talon, but at least it's human...

I have added ranger spells to snapshooter because it' more suitable for him.
Ranger has now changed spells to impaling bolt and silence. I have better skin for him but there are two more night elf heroes.

 

[domz186]

Hey Tranquil, where did you get that Trebuchet model?

 

[HFR]

Here.

 

[Viscer]

Single Player Mode Review

4.5 / 5

Exploits
1. The Pitlord Boss can only move out of a certain range , thus Ballistas / Catapults can easily kill him .

Difficulties
1. It is hard to prevent assassins from hitting the lever , especially when there is an opening for them to open it , could use a gate or compartment to hide it safely .

Overpowered
1. Orc Hero at the Southeast and Southwest Bases stuns too much , even though they have limited mana . Hammer and Slam both stuns .




This is a Single Player Review
Hope this Helps ; Thanks .

 

[Qab]

I played this single player, and it was overall pretty good. There were some things like you had to wait for a ladder not being pushed down too go to the ground. And the dragon is really tough to beat, as I can't find him on the minimap, I have to scroll across the entire map and what happens if only 1 or 2 players choose long range heroes? And why have it so you can't go beat the orc boss until (1) Dragon comes, and (2) Dragon is dead. The dragon only lands once and you can't find in time too kill it. But the game has a fun gameplay and challenge too it, so I give it a 4/5

 

[HFR]

If you chose a melee hero, buy a orb, this works.

Also, as Viscer said, it's really easy to kill Raghnarosh using Ballistas and Catapults. Last week, I made this and took a screenshot.

 

[Tranquil]

I will see to fix this errors. By the way if you can't see map there is option to change view distance read help in quests.

 

[domz186]

Hey Tranquil,, really i need that ladder model.
Where did you get that?

 

[HFR]

He made it for his own project...

Finnaly a new version, but, why the assassins are visible now? That strategy of putting some rangers on the eastern main gate was one of the good points...

Also, maybe it's already time of a improved AI. The AI's basic commands are just staying on the walls, when the main gate breaches, 2 random units move to the entrance, and to defeat the boss after the dragon is killed.

You can make the AI accomplish the 2 sidequests by using the same method of the Boss one.

 

[Chaotic]

why version says 1.6? it should be 1.56

 

[Delterius]

I agree with HFR, I don't know why the assassins aren't the assassins invisible anymore.

Also, you should make a way to leave the throne room if you acidentaly teleport into it.
Maybe some mechanism to open/close the doors.

 

[HFR]

This accidental teleport only occurs to ultra pros that likes to use the Staff whitout knowing what they're clicking (i.e. clicking on a random point in the minimap).

 

[domz186]

Hey, where did you get that ladders?

 

[Tranquil]

I maded them for this map.

 

[Hadhafang]

It's a fun game but could do with some additions:
-More custom items
-The assassins that attack the East gate lever are just killed because they are invisible, it should be destroyed at a set time instead of by assassins, or the assasins should spawn near the lever.

But other than a few minor things it's a great map, 4.5/5

 

[demon.spider]

this is suchh a good map!...ive been keeping track of it for a while now...i hope that you can make more heroes too

 

[GJBottomley]

what a man! ivnever that dragon is truly awsome

 

[Ricardo Irving]

Close to 4mb? Well, this thing won't get hosted even once on B.net.

 

[KandyMan]

Tranquil,can i say secret hero code for all users watching?
Because,we with friends completed this map,and we all know code for Secret Hero =)

 

[KandyMan]

I just see people dieing and when they are about to revive their game crashes and their hero sits at spawn the rest of the game. I think it has something to do with the spawning because people are still responding until their hero spawns. I haven't come close to beating this yet because after three people die, its hard to keep king alive.

I didn't had this problem,because noone died whole game
They were just sitting in the Fortress and killing units from Fortress walls(because everybody taked ranged hero )
Only to end we all in one group stormed final boss and killed them
So,that's my story which i call "The Completion Of One Map"
Good job on map,but some think,that map triggers are too simple,like:

• Unit - Create something at (Attack Bridge) region
• Wait 3 seconds
• Unit - Order (Last created unit) to attack Врата демонов 0037

and something like that,but it's not true,right?Because,i don't believe them.Even I can't make units attack something(can you teach me? =) )
P.S Sorry about my English

 

[Dorken]

The bots sometimes bugs and gets stuck at spawn, anyway just wanted to comment on a successful map but it is still missing something. You can almost be afk playing this.

 

[DarkDivinity]

Can you increase the range of the Wizard's Water Elementals; their attack range is really low for this map (300?!) Also, I had a problem late-game where the reinforcements began to get stuck in the area immediatley to the left of the main gate. Aside from that, I still think this is an awesome map Keep the updates with new stuff coming please!

 

[N00B5600]

The ranger is awesome, though with the warrior, he was killed a few million times defending the gate

 

[CaioKastor]

Hey man,nice map i really like it but,can you make the max lv higher? Cauz im playing with pyromancer on single player and its fucking hard to defend just with AI...To defeat the main boss?? OMG,i really doubt that i can do this alone

 

[HFR]

A new and reworked fortress siege? Do you have any release date in mind?

 

[Tranquil]

It's quite finished.I need to spice it a bit.

 

[TheHunterKiller]

Downloading and testing...

EDIT: Hmm... Maybe add some custom abilities? It's nice overall.. Might get boring after a while.
I think you should increase the level cap also.

Second Edit >.<: The enemies can't pass the drawbridge at eastern gate...

 

[HFR]

It'll have completely new heroes or the "old" heroes, but with improvements, more heroes, etc?

 

[Tranquil]

For now there are old ones but i am considering to make more of them. There will be no
dragon because the dragon model has very size. But ther will be other things that will
make this map interesting.

 

[DarkDivinity]

More secret stuff would be nice. Also, can you fix the prices on some items? Maybe make some a little cheaper like Crown of the Deathlord (It's not that great and yet it costs a fortune)? By the way the orcs get stuck in the area bewtween the main gate and the southeast section of the fortress.

 

[crawlers]

to me it seams like orcs just run back and forth on walls and dont go up ladders much just begging to die -.- kinda makes it too easy XD exept when they go for gates then it balances out XDXD but lmao at sucing orcs

 

[VeljkoM]

The biggest problem is when they send invisible units to lower the bridge. I try to put soldier there but they still manage to open it after some time.

 

[HFR]

It's because the gate must fall at a certain time.

 

[Delterius]

to me it seams like orcs just run back and forth on walls and dont go up ladders much just begging to die -.- kinda makes it too easy XD exept when they go for gates then it balances out XDXD but lmao at sucing orcs

Strangely, that never happened to me.Are you sure this happen a lot with you?

 

[PeTSoN]

i played this map once with computer bots but it was impossible to lose and to win because they didnt help me destroying the boss and even when i tryed killing allies the enemy didnt go to the king they just kept fighting the reviving heros

 

[Tails96]

Can you upload some models from this map? Like Searinox, crossbowman and cleric.I like them.

 

[Ryoukaii]

One of my favourite maps on The Hive Workshop - I really like how you designed it... might be slightly better if you created more shops with better items, and fill in some places that seem a bit 'empty' with more buildings, doodads, etc. Overall, this map was extremely enjoyable.. Also, could you modify the AI script for the computers? They don't really do much... xD

Great work~!

 

[njmfffanj]

Played the map few months ago and I like it, until... it comes to end...

After Dragon attack (which is great btw) and you hit around level 10, you can easily outrun all enemy waves and kill Pitlord... His base is small, no real guard and enemy towers fall down easily. That was kinda disappointing, I expected some big fight (or at least cool) with Pitlord. Anyway, mini-boss Heroes were great idea, I almost got killed once by Hellscream, didn't even notice him among endless waves of Orcs. lol

Castle was done great, heroes are also great (but maybe you could increase max level?)
Horns are also good idea, I like it. btw, could you add some custom items for the next version? (and please, lower the price a bit, items are too expensive and gold gain is low )

possible bugs: Fountain in the castle would heal enemies... oh and King is an as$***e ...

 

[Kisame97one]

Great map! It looks like The Lord of the Rings on PS2 x).

 

[shadow3]

Very good map, there's constant action and you're kept interested until the end.
One thing I'd like to see is more of bosses like the dragon, where you have to chase and kill it, and less of the heroes that just come at random times and are just slightly annoying, I'd like them to be able to withstand some damage, maybe add it to the hardest mode, or make a new mode?

 

[Dragon-Fire]

Ten Things to hopefully help your Map:

Ten Things to hopefully help your Map:

Love your map and here are some ideas to hopefully improve it

1). You can get into the circle top right where you pick your heroes!! The opening is up the top left of the tree wall! This probably isn’t planned :S

2). Limit the number of orcs on the map! What has happened a few times while playing this map is that there become too many orcs on the map and it becomes too laggy. Sometimes there is a bug and the orcs pile up at one of the gates or ladders but don’t come in.

What I’m guessing could be good is if there is more than a reasonable amount of orcs on the map is make them upgrade their current orcs on the map rather than sending more! However checking the number of orcs on the map could also maybe make it laggy so your choice.

3). an Idea could be before the king dies maybe 10% life left he goes invulnerable (uses potion of invulnerability) lasts maybe for 20 seconds or so and calls all the heroes to him i.e. teleport them and you make a last stand This would be because it is very easy to get absorbed guarding a gate or whatever and not read the warnings that your king is getting attacked

4). (end game) Another idea could that could be cool! Towards the end the Manaroth guy says to his vice general that he wants the castle to fall and the vice general says he will lead the attack personally! But instead of a huge attack the orcs stop sending troops for a little while and when the castle is devoid of orc troops and humans think that they have won and then vision expands a little and defenders can see the whole outside of the map is full of troops! Idea could be that the vice general is a Tauran and him and his guard of Taurens lead a charge off all the troops towards the castle!! Then if the defenders beat that they have to go outside and verse the enemy general and his elite body guards (Manaroth guy)! Everyone bar the king in the castle should help out with the task but because the enemy and his body guards should be super strong they should die quickly and only the heroes are left! If the enemy manaroth guy manages to kill all the heroes then he should start to make his way towards the castle and the alone king! The heroes should resporn from dying with just enough time to take out manaroth before he kills the king!

5). Increasing the max hero level would be cool as well as 15 is a bit low 20 I reckon would be better! And maybe add some powers so that when they reach max level they get a new ability

6). (END GAME) I reckon the general guy should be a normal orc hero type guy but reasonably big one! But when he gets down to maybe 1/2 health he uses metamorphosis and lets a demon into his soul changing him to Manaroth! Or maybe after he dies he comes back pretty soon and kills all the heroes when he comes back! Sky could turn purple and water red something cool like that and maybe the camera shakes for a little while! Map is engulfed in fire! AND BBBOOOOO YEEEAAAAHHH A DEAMON MARAROTH IS THERE INSTEAD!!!

7). Another side quest would be nice! (for early mid game) An idea could be that there is a really powerful magician who’s help the king would like! He has a small shine to the north area (where the secret shop is) and you fight your way too him and hell help you in the battle! Also at his shrine you can heal and buy magical items! Which is where you should put the secret store! And make the bandits along the road to his shrine! You need to be of an appropriate level to be able to kill the bandits and therefore get to the shrine to buy the high level items and release the magicians help.

8). Another idea/ side quest (mid game) in the orc camp the orcs are summoning a daemon! Make some type of pentagram and use the undead peasant things (i forget the name) You have been made aware of it by scouts and you know you have a timeline to fight your way into the base and kill the summoners! Else if you fail this daemon (maybe ilidin daemon model) kills that section of the orc base and attacks the castle and you have to kill it! It attacks both orc and human so set it to a different team but it makes its way towards the castle!! Needless to say it drops a cool item! don’t know what maybe a daemon blade!! +40 damage or something!

9). More items or joining of items together is always nice XD probs have some way of telling new players that the people up the top are shops!! it isnt immediately obvious! Floating text is all it takes or something similar!

10). If u want a short general short story could be cool with optional cinematic! Tells of why the fortress is getting attacked or something!

 

[Dwarf_King]

Did anyone besides me notice that this is just Defense of Uthragon with a few changes?

 

[crawlers]

Did anyone besides me notice that this is just Defense of Uthragon with a few changes?

he prob tried to make defense of uthragon the "2nd wave"

 

[Dromlexer]

Soo.. Really nice map i like it and i play always play it. =D The goodest is we can play with computer.

 

[Azn_Christian]

To the people whose drawbrdige keeps falling down, assassins have stealth.....
aka get rangers (it was like this b4 v1.5 where he removed it. glad he readded it in.)
The 1.7 version has a couple bugs. compared to the 1.6 one
1) I was sage and I didn't respawn at all (stayed for 2 hrs so yea....)
2) corpses have health and take up food. (enemy and me). For example) I had two elite guards and one died and his corpse remained w/ full hp and resistant skin. the other died and disappeared. So I now only had 5 food useable.
3) sorcerer's spell stuns them indefitantly.
4) spawns stop after a certain time.
5) King can't die at least I can't get him to die...
6) King runs outside w/ his wizzard and clerics but the other troops get left behind.

 

[kevin101olorvida]

where did u get that dragon

 

[N1ghthawk]

This map review set-up is based on that created and used by Tank Commander,

I review maps that look interesting or promising. If you wish for me to review your map, or if notable changes have occured to a map I have already reviewed, then you may message me with a link to your map and I will review it within the next week.

(5 marks) - Terraining/Environment
(5 marks) - Triggering
(15 marks) - Gameplay
(10 marks) - Innovation/Originality
(5 marks) - Interface/Object Editor Work

1-7 marks = (1) Poor quality map, unfit for the Hive (usually a beginners map)

8-14 marks = (2) The beginnings of a map are there, but it still needs work and is likely unfinished.

15-21 marks = (3) An adequate map, is fun for a game or two and functions.

22-28 marks = (4) Shows promise and has some interesting features; playability is high.

29-35 marks = (5) A fine example of Hive-quality; will keep you entertained for several games at least and updates are looked forward to.

35+ marks = (6) A simply brilliant warcraft map. Features are flawlessly implemented, code is legit, game is fun, and the constraints of
Warcraft 3 are challenged.

Terraining (3/5) - On the one hand, the castle is epic with tons of ramparts, walls, and entrances. On the other hand, the outside environment is a plain snow-swept terrain with little to do doodads or texture variation.

Triggering (N/A) - Map is protected, thus this section will be discounted.

Gameplay (9/15) - The "siege" part of the game is epic. Hordes of enemies using a plethora of siege vehicles to take over a castle filled with countless different defenders, trebuchets, ballistas, hero-type units, siege doors, and much more. That, coupled with the multitude of special events, gives this map an entirely "epic" feel. While all that is true, however, the lack of any custom-made items and virtually no triggered spells whatsoever seriously brings down gameplay. If you made your own items and had some more custom-made and interesting spells this category could easily be 15/15.

Innovation/Originality (10/10) - Entirely original. Brings a whole new standard upon the siege map genre.

Interface/Object Editor Work (1/5) - Grammer and spelling mistakes spread around this map like a plague. The loading screen, hero descriptions, message alerts, spell details, and item tooltips all contain language problems.

- I died as the Warrior and never revived (timer never even appeared).
- I would highly reccomend getting somebody who speaks english well to go through your map and fix all the grammer/spelling errors (I would be willing to do this myself if you send me a copy of the latest version you are working).
- You really need to include some custom-made items and maybe some sort of item "system" such as recipies.
- Include custom triggered spells! Playing a hero with just object-editor manipulated spells is boring and uniteresting.

Final Marking - (28/40)
Rating - (4)
Voted for - Approval
Rep Given? - No, although I disagree with the 2/5 moderator rating, this map most certainly needs some more work

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