Eurica: The Caribbean

[Moderator]

12:52, 26th Jul 2015
Shadow Fury: The map is fantastic and very amusing. I highly recommend this game to everyone, especially to those who like games based on Empire Earth and Ages of Empire because this is a very better version of these two games.

 

[Strydhaizer]

We're now leaving the alpha and opening the beta testing for everyone.

Current version is v.1.0.0

Changelog

-Updated the icons -Fixed some of descriptions -Re-balanced the artillery units -Re-balanced buildings -Now leaving the alpha stage, we're now in BETA. -Removed the useless multiboard

Please leave suggestion, comments, or criticisms. Everything is welcome. I accept any comment even if it is rude. Please report bugs or glitches once you experience or find buggy-shit ingame.

 

[Arad MNK]

This is finally released

~Downloading

 

[Strydhaizer]

This is finally released

Glad you're waiting for it. I hope you can give me suggestions and criticisms after playing it.

Current version is v.1.0.1

Changelog

-Patched due to wolf-rider's parasite ability which is not suppose to be his ability.

 

[Arad MNK]

It ain't showing to me

This sometimes happens with some maps, Now it's this one

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

It ain't showing to me

This sometimes happens with some maps, Now it's this one

It's set to needs fix as requested by Stryder.

 

[Strydhaizer]

Many fixes on the new version

Current version is v.1.1.0

Changelog

-New and updated quests (or notelist/tipslist). -Re-balanced gathering system (now gathering resources a maximum of 8 gold and 10 lumber). -Titan's Colloseo base pathing fix (widened) -Faster projectile speed for air-rider -Life and Armor balance for Barbarian's Buildings. -Description fixes. -Added "Sharper Arrows" ability to Ballista (which deals double damage to organic units) -Fixed the effects leaks that causes lag ang bug. -Fixed the critical strike ability of ballista and glaive throwers (15% critical chance to 20% for glaive thrower and 40% chance to ballista) -Fixed the Demolisher's Double Damage to enemy buildings -Fixed the stun duration of Slam from 8 to 5 and Bash from 3 to 1 -Fixed the Demolisher's bug that crashes the game when destroying a building. (The cause of the crash is the unit have 2 active attacks, attack 1 and attack 2 which basically have the same targets which is ground, air and structures) -Changed the demolish ability to 100% critical chance of dealing double damage (now using the critical chance id instead of demolish id) -Removed the Town Hall and Peasants "Call to Arms" ability which is believed the cause of the crash. -Changed energy charge cooldown from 1.0 to 0.8 -New Bot Names -Team Color has been implemented (Black for main player, Brown and Dark Green for Computers) -Fixed the team color of units (Now it's blending with the color of the atmosphere after i unflagged the "unshaded" team color material of each unit) -Hopefully no more crashes, it just happens when you have a cracked version (i have both original and cracked(or modded. which i always use when making maps, especially when using newgen) version in my pc. I tried playing it in the original and it works pretty well without crashing).

Please leave suggestion, comments, or criticisms. Everything is welcome. I accept any comment even if it is rude. Please report bugs or glitches once you experience or find buggy-shit ingame.

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An early preview for the Eurica : The Constantine
Still using the same base terraining map used for the Eurica : The Caribbean, but will introduce new units and weather system. More information about it soon.

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[Ardenian]

First if all, as Arad MNK said, the map does not appear in the game list in the menu as the map name is too big. I reduced it manually and it showed up, so please fix this.

Review Eurica : The Caribbean v.1.1.0 Visuals - Gameplay and Aesthetics My first impression: Gorgeous! The map shows up a great use of custom doodads that match each other, using many high-quality custom models, skins and tiles. The weather effects offer a great variety to the default altered melee and houses, taverns and towers give the map a great atmosphere. Stryderzero, your map gives an absolutely new feeling within Warcraft, as we know it from Gaia's ORPG or Iceborn. for example. One little thing, some/one tile/s are shown black in the mini map, it is a little aesthetically bad to view at, but well, only some little areas are. Gameplay and Features The gameplay is indeed very challenging. I tried to beat the game several times with default handicap and failed badly. The idea of offering the player many different units to create a strategically army is very interesting and offers great replayability. The difficulty is a point I struggled with, as I said. I think it might be a good idea to add different game options, like, for example, that the enemies only build a limited number of different units and such, allowing the player to create a more personal difficulty. The gameplay is, as you promise, very fast-paced, reminding of modern games like StarCraft 2. Result Eurica : The Caribbean is a fast-paced altered melee map offering a gameplay in a very customized environment. Different units allow to try different combos defeating his enemies ( or badly failing due to the difficulty). I vote for Approval

 

[LordDz]

Going to comment as I play:
Why are there no hotkeys for the units? For easy hotkeys, use QWERTY hotkeys for everything, units, abilites, buildings, etc.

Priest does not have heal as autocast from beginning, is that intended?

Flaming and Cold arrows does not say how much damage they deal, I assume Flaming arrows deal more damage, or splash?

Terrain was superb.

 

[Strydhaizer]

My first impression: Gorgeous!
The map shows up a great use of custom doodads that match each other, using many high-quality custom models, skins and tiles.
The weather effects offer a great variety to the default altered melee and houses, taverns and towers give the map a great atmosphere.

Stryderzero, your map gives an absolutely new feeling within Warcraft, as we know it from Gaia's ORPG or Iceborn. for example.

That's what i aimed exactly. I'm glad you liked it.

The difficulty is a point I struggled with, as I said.
I think it might be a good idea to add different game options, like, for example, that the enemies only build a limited number of different units and such, allowing the player to create a more personal difficulty.

Sure thing, noted!

Anyway, tried playing the "Impossible" difficulty? It's more .... challenging

Why are there no hotkeys for the units? For easy hotkeys, use QWERTY hotkeys for everything, units, abilites, buildings, etc.

Good point, i'm going to fix it for ya.

Priest does not have heal as autocast from beginning, is that intended?

No, the problem is i dont know why it does not automatically auto-cast it, i probably messed up with that ability in the object editor, let's see what i can do for it . For now, you have to cast it manually.

Flaming and Cold arrows does not say how much damage they deal, I assume Flaming arrows deal more damage, or splash?

Flaming arrows, as what the ability said, only deals more damage (it does not make a splash damage) and the Cold arrows just slows the enemy movement, no bonus damage [I might fix this one as the Cold Arrow description says that it deals additional damage but no it does'nt]

I'm going to fix everything up and update it later.
Thanks for playing and have fun with it.

Stryderzero,

Just call me Stryd/Stryder

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Current version is v.1.1.1

Changelog

-Added hotkeys for the abilities -Fixed grammar errors on Quest Menu -Fixed the Unstable Concoction/Kamikaze ability of the air-rider (Strider), you cannot auto-cast in anymore. -Shortened the name (If the map still dont show on your gamelist then you have to move it to the root folder (in the maps folder, not in any other folder inside the maps folder) -Fixed the description of some abilities

Please leave suggestion, comments, or criticisms. Everything is welcome. I accept any comment even if it is rude. Please report bugs or glitches once you experience or find buggy-shit ingame.

 

[Shadow Fury]

This map is doubtlessly near to perfection!
The terrain was absolutely amazing, the custom buildings were magnificent, tile variation was extraordinary. Everything of the visuals was simply astonishing. I just want to know why the lower half of the map is water as this just takes up filesize in vain.
The gameplay was a real blast! While I don't think it's "fast-paced", I definitely think it's very enjoyable anyway. You got so many units to decide from and each unit has its own skills, creating such a large variation that you can think about thousands of synergies, tactics and strategies to manage your army. When I played it for the first time, I just spammed any unit I could because I wasn't still familiar to them. I managed to defend my base well but my raids were simple suicides (all that with 100% enemy handicap).
The game didn't crash at any moment nor did I suffer from unbearable lag. I'm just a bit disappointed that the building site on the east is a bit restricted. The AI had its buildings clustered so close that the battles were pretty annoying. One unit dies, the other takes his place. It's also caused by the usage of doodads to create the colosseum (yeah, the archways). This gives a precious advantage to the defender since the guard towers are almost inaccessible by ground (aha, that's why my sieges were disasters!). The battles were much more epic when they occured beside my base (the one at the southwest). Would you mind expanding a little bit more the eastern building site?
A final notice are the tooltips. I know you advised that there's going to be some bad wording but don't you think it's a bit negative and unprofessional? And why should this awesome map be limited to +13 only? It's a big shame, really. I strongly recommend removing the bad language from your map.

Overall the map is gorgeous and merits a 4.5/5 and an APPROVAL with an inarguable rating of 5/5. Yes, it's certainly highly recommended from me!

 

[Strydhaizer]

Congratz man! Your map deserves without any doubts a 5/5. Consider some of my suggestions though, the map can be even better than it is now and probably be worth a Director's Cut.

I wanna claim that Directors Cut title for my project . I will improve the map based on the suggestions that i've collected.

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Current version is v.1.2.0

Changelog

-Removed impossible handicaps -Removed bad languages in the description of the units, abilities, upgrades and buffs -Removed half of the ocean, now looks smaller. -New Force Names -Realistic Minimap -New Map Cover -Replaced some of the bot-names -AI will now use upgrades when you choose Normal and Expert mode -Map is now for everyone, no more illegal, insulting and annoying words. (Thread Update) -Fixed the "Strider" unit's description as it says it can attack both land and air units but it cannot really attack air units. -Wider base on the Colloseum base and removed some of the arch barriers.

Please leave suggestion, comments, or criticisms. Everything is welcome. I accept any comment even if it is rude. Please report bugs or glitches once you experience or find buggy-shit ingame.

 

[Shadow Fury]

That's fantastic to hear! One last suggestion would be letting the AI be able to use upgrades. It could help if someone wants to play the game with both sides totally balanced (both 100% handicap, same units, same everything). I'd personally like that so I'd like to recommend it. Maybe you can add it as a game mode along with the settings of the AI so that players can choose what they prefer.

 

[Ardenian]

By the way, 'Beast Mode' tooltip of grunt is a bit confusing.
The way it presents itself makes it sound as if the grunt makes extra damage instead of taking extra damage.
Additionally, the unit gains movement speed, that's missing, too, isn't it ?

 

[Strydhaizer]

That's fantastic to hear! One last suggestion would be letting the AI be able to use upgrades. It could help if someone wants to play the game with both sides totally balanced (both 100% handicap, same units, same everything). I'd personally like that so I'd like to recommend it. Maybe you can add it as a game mode along with the settings of the AI so that players can choose what they prefer.

Sure, marked!

By the way, 'Best Mode' tooltip of grunt is a bit confusing.
The way it presents itself makes it sound as if the grunt makes extra damage instead of taking extra damage.
Additionally, the unit gains movement speed, that's missing, too, isn't it ?

Done!

 

[btdonald]

Haha, I've waited for this project along time.

Finally RELEASED ^^

 

[Strydhaizer]

Haha, I've waited for this project along time.

Finally RELEASED ^^

Good to hear, let me hear your commments and suggestions after playing it ^^

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Damn! i wish i could be as good as you are in terraining...!
When seeing yours and therefor sees mine, i think mine is totaly junk (trash!)

You get an totaly 5/5 and take with +Rep for me.

 

[Shadow Fury]

Damn! i wish i could be as good as you are in terraining...!
When seeing yours and therefor sees mine, i think mine is totaly junk (trash!)[/COLOR][/U]

You're not the only one.

 

[hiphop4eva]

0_0 lawl.

 

[Strydhaizer]

0_0 lawl.

Lol, i think i just missed that one. I will patch the map later on.

Damn! i wish i could be as good as you are in terraining...!
When seeing yours and therefor sees mine, i think mine is totaly junk (trash!)

You get an totaly 5/5 and take with +Rep for me.

Just keep practicing, you can also do it You just need to expand your imagination and always be creative and unique.

 

[SNIper of DARKness]

Where you got the Clock Tower? It's something unique in Wc3 as hiveworkshop doesn't have anything like it, should have specified it.

 

[Strydhaizer]

Where you got the Clock Tower? It's something unique in Wc3 as hiveworkshop doesn't have anything like it, should have specified it.

I built it manually, piece by piece, using Talavaj's "Stones and Sword" models (You can check it out here : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/terrain-board-267/stone-sword-terraining-mapping-resource-238310/) and Sin Dorei's clock model which is in the models section of hiveworkshop (Here : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/wallclock-226249/?prev=search=clock&d=list&r=20)

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Current version is v.1.2.1

Changelog

-Fixed the Farm's description (patch) -Removed the unnecessary variables [in the map triggers] (patch) -Grammar fixes on Difficulty Message (patch) -New peasant model and texture, also the portrait contributed by Deolrin -Fixed the bug where the Normal and Expert AI dont attack the player (patch)

Please leave suggestion, comments, or criticisms. Everything is welcome. I accept any comment even if it is rude. Please report bugs or glitches once you experience or find buggy-shit ingame.

 

[Arad MNK]

5/5, But change that "Tauren" tag to something else, Unless those units are actually Tauren.

 

[Strydhaizer]

5/5, But change that "Tauren" tag to something else, Unless those units are actually Tauren.

Yes, they were Tauren units, meaning ,large and offense units (not literally a tauren unit of orcs, that's just how i define it).

I honestly don't know how to edit it. :/

 

[Arad MNK]

It's in Gameplay interface. I believe at the bottom, but not sure. There you can edit Tauren, mechanical and Undead texts!

 

[king arthas123]

That's what's were talking, the terrains looks real and blends perfectly in the atmosphere.

 

[Flux]

5/5 for so much unit variation, funny tooltips, and of course the terrain.

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Yes, they were Tauren units, meaning ,large and offense units (not literally a tauren unit of orcs, that's just how i define it).

I honestly don't know how to edit it. :/

For spells, its normaly Buffs that you need to edit.

 

[Strydhaizer]

For spells, its normaly Buffs that you need to edit.

I dont undertand...
Please be specific, a'right?

5/5 for so much unit variation, funny tooltips, and of course the terrain.

Thanks for playing it

That's what's were talking, the terrains looks real and blends perfectly in the atmosphere.

It a good news that you like it.

Is there anything that you can suggest to improve the map?

 

[knight26]

This should be in altered melee category, and also with only one race at the moment and with fog of war removed, I honestly couldn't have fun. Despite that, it really does look aesthetically beautiful.
Looking forward to future versions and maps

 

[Strydhaizer]

This should be in altered melee category, and also with only one race at the moment and with fog of war removed, I honestly couldn't have fun. Despite that, it really does look aesthetically beautiful.

Not sure if you played the map fully but there is actually fog of war in the map, only works when the game time is midnight and dusk.

And, yes it is an altered melee map, i just forgot to put it to that category, but i already mentioned the map type in the map description.

I honestly couldn't have fun.

 

[knight26]

Hey I just pointed out in case you forgot, which you mentioned that you did. Not insulting.
Oh, well that's awesome then, I suppose I didn't really notice that close, I simply built an army and the AI could be seen from the minimap with a huge ass horde just bashing my base, shaman imba af :')

Hey please now, don't disperse, I really like where your ideas are heading, this is just the start as I said I think it is beautiful. Terrain, attention to details and such. I'm really looking forward to more races though

 

[Strydhaizer]

Hey please now, don't disperse, I really like where your ideas are heading, this is just the start as I said I think it is beautiful. Terrain, attention to details and such. I'm really looking forward to more races though

Thanks

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New update will add new difficulty which is "Hardcore". Choosing "Hardcore" mode will unlock new units which is the Black Hand Units (which will be available on the new building which is the Temple. Black Hand Units are more unique and more powerful units.

So far i don't have plan to add new race, instead, i'll just add more units to a single race, filling all the spaces of Barracks, Archery and Stables structures.

 

[kakuzu]

Great , you released it ! Congratulation ! 17 mb is pretty big but i bet it worths every mb

 

[Strydhaizer]

Great , you released it ! Congratulation ! 17 mb is pretty big but i bet it worths every mb

I hope you like it.

I do not have time to update it right now but the next update is uber-massive as you can now spawn unused units in the map with "developer's mode" cheat.

Also, new units in the barracks offc'se (Only available in the new difficulty, the "Advanced" mode, new tech units will be introduced)

Tauren units are now called "Epic" units, meaning, they are independent (can't be healed or supported by healers or any other support units)

Click

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EDIT :

No Map file increase! They're already imported in the map since Pre-Alpha but i am not able to use them.

 

[kakuzu]

The epic units are independent ? You mean like mercenary ?

 

[Strydhaizer]

The epic units are independent ? You mean like mercenary ?

Yes. exactly.

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Current version is v.1.3.0

Changelog

-Minor Terrain changes/improvement -You can now cheat by typing "dev" in the chat, then a cheat table will appear in your screen ("Developers Mode") -Changed the tag "Tauren" into "Epic" unit -Player 4 (Computer 3) is now enabled and rolling -Optimized the map (Removed unused resources from the map) - From 19mb to 17mb -New Loading screen from the art gallery of unreleased "The Great Troll" war project (2007) -Blackhand units have been removed (There is nothing else to add, we already got tons of variations of ground units)

Please leave suggestion, comments, or criticisms. Everything is welcome. I accept any comment even if it is rude. Please report bugs or glitches once you experience or find buggy-shit ingame.

 

[jomaramnesiya]

sir i cannot play the map, every time i tried to create the game it always say that the map is too big......

any suggestions ????

T.I.A

 

[Strydhaizer]

sir i cannot play the map, every time i tried to create the game it always say that the map is too big......

any suggestions ????

T.I.A

You have to play it only in Single Player , it will not run on LAN and Battlenet.

 

[kakuzu]

So it has AI, right ?

 

[Strydhaizer]

So it has AI, right ?

Offcourse it has AI

 

[kakuzu]

Thats great for playing offline

 

[Lukyr]

Great melee map ! Love it!

Though some mechanic units don't fit very well with barbarians

 

[Strydhaizer]

Though some mechanic units don't fit very well with barbarians

Please be specific.

 

[xorkatoss]

Pros:
-very nice map, fun to play and easy to learn for beginners
-good replacement of the WC3 RTS
-awesome terrain and completely new models

Cons:
-No Heroes, it just feels too simple without heroes.
-After some playing i realized that the only units i needed was Overlord and Demolisher, all the others are too weak to be of any use.

Suggestions:
-Add Heroes (obviously)
-Could use some more epic units
-Increase the food limit (80 seems to low)
-Make towers Upgradeable to increase damage

Overall:
This map is pretty good and has a lot of potential, looking forward to testing future versions, good luck with your map

 

[chubemocboc]

I didn't learn about European History. Can you explain about the countries in your map?

 

[Strydhaizer]

I didn't learn about European History. Can you explain about the countries in your map?

Not sure what you mean exactly but the setting of my map is just fictional and you dont need to learn European history just to understand everything in my map. I dont want to explain because i am not a history teacher.

Add Heroes (obviously)

To be honest, we dont need heroes anymore since epic units are already heroes, i honestly dont want to put Superman or Batman or Ironman on my map. I dont want to be unfair with non-hero units .

I want a massive warfare as stated on the map description.

"Unlike the blizzard melees, this map is more on massive warfare and the player and computers cannot use or train heroes."
-Stryd.

Make towers Upgradeable to increase damage

I already did , please re-play the map.

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Increase the food limit (80 seems to low)

No, considering the food required of most of the units is "1", meaning, you can train about 60-80 clones of them, and the highest food required of epic and mechanical units is "3", it is really low when compared to original melee maps.

I dont want to increase it since it causes lag when there are alot of active units in the map (based on the tests when it was on pre-alpha stage).

Could use some more epic units

Sure thing

-After some playing i realized that the only units i needed was Overlord and Demolisher, all the others are too weak to be of any use.

So i think i have to balance the game abit, downgrading the power of epic units, and make them more expensive

 

[Fingolfin]

I just tried this map, and to be honest, i was a bit dissapointed. With the high praise from Shadow Fury, especially the "better version of empire earth and age of empires" part, i had expected much more from the gameplay. The tooltips were quite uninformative, and didn't clearly state the role of the units. There were an awful lot of units with active abilities, which made combat very micro-intensive, and i always felt like i didn't use the units to their full potential. To me, it is better to have multiple active abilities on one "spellcaster" unit type, than one on each unit. The autocast spells weren't set to "default active", which meant you had to manually activate them everytime a unit was trained.The race design felt a little incohesive, wtih a lot of unit models which didn't quite fit together visually. The lumber storage could not be used as an actual lumber drop-off, which didn't make sense, and there were like 5 upgrades in the whole map.

This being said, the terrain was absolutely stellar - the visual quality is some of the best i've seen for a playable wc3 map. The AI was also intelligent and challenging. I think it is pretty far from DC at this point, but i will be following your development.