Draenor

[Fussiler1]

Not really, the Earthen were the first expirements of the Titans on Azeroth.

 

[AIagremm]

Veljkom, you may remember me mensioning "life matrix"
Titans used the same matrix everywhere which made flesh creatures.
They changed the basic matrix to make stone creatures.

Faceless are definetly assimilated creatures, just look at them! If they arent, then they are from that theoretical Old God planet.

 

[Fussiler1]

Isn't Azeroth the planet of the Old Gods? >_>

 

[VeljkoM]

Yes but Alagremm doesn't think so.
Also Fussiler I was talking about other planets not just Azeroth.

 

[AIagremm]

Creatures of such power as Old Gods have, cannot be bind to one world, unless someone binded them there.
I think that there are more Old Gods... somewhere... lurking, parasiting worlds...for somthing.

 

[AIagremm]

So, lets return to Draenor, shall we?

 

[VeljkoM]

I forgot my passport...

 

[AIagremm]

Well, I have a Draenor passport. Now thats an idea... Draenor pasport.
You should go to Draenorian embassy in Nethergard Keep.
But it will take long. They have to mail your info to Shattrath, Hellfire Citadel, Skettis, Gruul's Lair(man, I imagine Gruul doing paperwork). And it may take even longer if they will send them to Karabor, Auchindoun and Garadar.

 

[VeljkoM]

I am sure that satyr have fake passports. How else would they get to Illidan?

 

[AIagremm]

Indeed. Satyrs have Ashenvale and Felwood passports, which wont work in Draenorian embassy.
And I dont think that naga, with their Maelstrom passports, can go anywhere. Blood elves have expired passports, because Quel'thalas was destroyed.
lol. I just imagined a fel orc souvenire lounge next to the Dark Portal.

 

[Fussiler1]

The Naga got put out of Azeroth by the Azerothian Government, but a small group held the Nethergarde Embassy hostage and got allowed to enter Draenor and join Illidan.

 

[VeljkoM]

Because of that United States of Azeroth (USA) proclaimed that nagas are terrorist. Satyrs are former communist of Sargeras (Stalin?) and his Burning Legion (known also as SSSR) which was created around War of Ancients (WW1) gone in Third War (cold war). Now new Burning Legion (china) is active again and they have world wide agents with fake passports.

 

[StormWarriors2]

what? what is happening?

 

[Fussiler1]

But the Scourge (Russian Terrorists) rebelled against the Burning Legion and managed to get a huge part of Northrend (Russia). They are fond against a war of the United States of Azeroth (USA) and started to use biological weapons against them, a plague.

 

[AIagremm]

Horrible! But what about nazi? They call themselves Old Gods.
And this is becoming crazy.

 

[VeljkoM]

Nazi...how about scarlet idiots?

 

[AIagremm]

Oh, they are crazy! Must be terrorists too.

 

[VeljkoM]

Warcraft has so many terrorist. Every mob, faction, race that isn't part of Horde or Alliance and isn't significant is terrorist.

 

[Fussiler1]

Argent Dawn? Sounds a bit like Unicef.

 

[AIagremm]

Perhaps... but what about Cenarion Circle?

 

[Fussiler1]

Greenpeace.

 

[Fussiler1]

Alterac.

 

[AIagremm]

So true. Stupid government, bad relations and some other stuff. Oh, bad weather!

 

[VeljkoM]

Nah Yugoslavia is Alterac. It is destroyed and only criminals (politicians) remain.

 

[Fussiler1]

You've just described almost every country in the East-Bloc.

 

[AIagremm]

Back to Draenor... Dimensional Gateways are cool!

 

[VeljkoM]

I live there ^^ in Yugooslavia I mean.

And yes they are cool. To bad humans keep destroying it.

 

[StormWarriors2]

LOL. wow random. But still draneor in the orginal warcraft was bad ass and i loved having 200 men under my control MUHAHAHAHAHAHA MASSED RANGERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH + footman

 

[VeljkoM]

Well anyway I wander if Velven and his dreanai made contact with alliance would they be able to save dreanor?

 

[StormWarriors2]

that would be awesome =.= but chances are 79.523432% of him succeding. and our chances suck and velven adds 20% more because he is not that powerful, so it 99.513432% We're good.

 

[AIagremm]

I think that the combined power of Naaru is enough to cleanse all of Azeorth from corruption and partially rebuild Draenor.

 

[Misha]

i think nothing can help now XD

 

[VeljkoM]

Glue? Anyway this is "what if" Velven made contact in second war with alliance?

 

[AIagremm]

The Alliance wasnt that foolish to go in the deadly swamps, where the draenei were hiding.
However a few draenei have helped them a little. But if Alliance found the draenei, their united forces would easily defeat the Horde, and maybe even stop Nerzhul from opening the portals. And in my Afterstorm idea, after Nerzhul was defeated, and Horde was slowly defeating the Alliance Expedition, draenei came out of the swamps and their combined forces have pulled the Horde back, and even had destroyed a part of it.

 

[VeljkoM]

I forgot is horde united there or are they broken in groups? Because orcs are force to be recon with wile expedition and draenei were weak and out numbered.

 

[AIagremm]

Expedition and draenei successed in pulling the Horde away. Horde wasnt that united after the death of Nerzhul, and many of the clans returned to their homes. Many clans returned to their shamanistic traditions. The redemed orcs formed the Orcish Clans - neutral to draenei and humans, and neutral hostile to Horde. Horde lost most of it key locations including Hellfire citadel and Black Temple. However in the wilds and small villages they still continue to build new fortress, they attack Allaince and draenei and try to open the gateways to let the demons in. If they found a new leader or if there was a little boost, they would once again becaome the mots powerfull force.

 

[VeljkoM]

So they are something like Mordor orcs before Saurons return?

 

[AIagremm]

Not really. Wait, orcs existed before Sauron? Oh right, they were born from the elves who were smoking while being pregnant!

Well, they are shattered, and fight even against each other, but they still have some united organizations in them.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I meant time between Saurons death and return as an Eye.

 

[Phoonix]

OMG. pleas do never but realy never compare Orcs and elves from warcraft whit those of Lotr...

 

[VeljkoM]

May I ask why?

 

[AIagremm]

They are really different. Orcs of Warcraft are similar to those of Warhammer, and have many differences from orcs of LotR.
Elves in Warcraft arent that perfect. Thye were made to show that even elves can do mistakes(Tyrande, Illidan, Azshara, Blood elves )

 

[Phoonix]

Exactly. the Orcs in warcraft were originally a shamanic and peaceful race though they loved combat they didn't hate each other. the Orcs from Lotr are just savage beast beyond compare. and whit the elves in Lotr they are overdone to mystic to holy to ascended. in warcraft they might live longer be one of the oldest races but they act like humans make mistakes like humans and actually are the cause of many many problems in Azeroth. don't forget the Highbourne where originally High elves if they didn't try to open the portal none of this would have ever happened.

 

[VeljkoM]

Highborn 'are' high elves not 'were'. Also night elves don't make mistakes that fatal (Illidan does). And orcs from lotr have only same name and other from that there is actually no single same thing. They look, behave differently and have completely different ancestors.

 

[Phoonix]

yes thats exactly what i said. and i meant to say Night elves. i meant to say Night elves were originally Night elves so you HAVE to put them in the same category. as long as there is a free mind people will make mistakes or want power even in elven cultures. in Lotr that wouldn't happen since they are to ascended and sacred.

 

[VeljkoM]

You haven't reed Silmarilion or you would see how many grave mistakes elves created in lotr. There actually much more factions of elves there (3 or 4 main categories and so on).

 

[Fussiler1]

.. Eh, not that true.

Noldor and Sindarin. How confusing can it be?
And VeljkoM is right. Look at Feanor. He led his Noldor comrades to damnation by leaving the land of the Valar and scolding at them when his crystals, the Silmarillion, were stolen.
And Maelgin betrayed all of Gondolin, causing the kingdom to fall.

 

[AIagremm]

There were a lot of kinds of elves. And I agree with all of you, however LotR elves still are too perfect. Warcraft elves are way too similar to humans, they only love nature.

 

[VeljkoM]

Vanyar, Ñoldor, Teleri, Sindar, Eldar, Avari...that's more then 2. They were perfect in LotR trilogy but before that they were very much not perfect.

 

[AIagremm]

Of course. They are the ancient ones, the immortals...