Draenor

[AIagremm]

Huh!

 

[StormWarriors2]

what?

 

[AIagremm]

Do you want to say something? Oo

 

[StormWarriors2]

no ha

 

[AIagremm]

Hm...

 

[Misha]

Wha..?

 

[AIagremm]

I dont get it. Lets return to Draenor, shall we?

 

[StormWarriors2]

XD read it over.

 

[AIagremm]

Guys I have great ideas!
First: Imagine the time whne Allaince expedtion went to Draenor. What would happen if they would kill Nerz'hul before he finished the spellwork, but the world would still be ripping apart for a few hours, and they would close the Dark Portal because of that, but then Draenor would be stablized, and the portals closed. Imagine it... black dragons, draenei who with the help of alliance would defeat the orcs, the Horde who with the help of mag'har and alliance would becaome shamansitic, except for some evil guys. Awesome right?

 

[AIagremm]

Second: Imagine what would happen if after the second war when the portal was closed, trolls and goblins would get locked in Draenor - their new home. Goblins would build a new capital on the islands perhaps, and a lot of different villages. And trolls would build villages in Zangarmarsh, maybe a village in Terrokar since they are forest trolls. Cool, huh?

 

[AIagremm]

Third: Kinda stupid, but imagine Draenor never connected to Azeroth, because draenei and maybe someone else would kill Shadow Council guys?

 

[StormWarriors2]

Well that would be intresting but i don't know where to begin.

 

[VeljkoM]

1. Expedition never had any chance to come to Ner'Zhul, also black dragons would help Dreanor horde to fight expedition and whats left of Draenei considering that they were exstinkt in first 3 games and in expansion mutated beyond recognition. Shit orcs couldn't nothing because they are orcs which humans in second war hated and D. Horde would kill them.

 

[VeljkoM]

2. Trolls and goblins would also help horde in hope that they could return to Azeroth but goblins would get an idea of unviersal trading because you can never have to much gold.

3.Shadow council was killed in between first and second war (even if there are some they never done anything so it doesn't count). As for no conntact that would be like dream come true. No blood elf stupidity, no spaceship....

 

[AIagremm]

No Outland, no ethereals, no Netherstorm cand stupid world changes...
The world would be great...

 

[AIagremm]

But the Old Gods would defeat the unprepared Azeroth.

 

[VeljkoM]

They are old and forgotten and most important imprisoned for eternity. New evils are now trying to destroy Azeroth.

 

[AIagremm]

But new evils were let in Azeroth because of the Dark Portals opening.
And Old Gods have restarted their activities, for example Yogg-Saron broke his bindings.

 

[VeljkoM]

WoW raid bosses are just raids not lore. Dark portal was opened because of Sargeras so no traces of old gods. Old gods are more like blame takers.

 

[AIagremm]

Im not talking about them opening DP. They would sooner or later get free. Not talking about Hakkar and naga. And Illidan would sooner or later get free... maybe.

 

[AIagremm]

 

[VeljkoM]

Ok that is just impressive.

 

[AIagremm]

And it is yet to be completed.

 

[Misha]

impressive....

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, a guy who saw my project idea showed me his Draenor template map. When I checked it out... the horror! Blizzard cliffs, and horrible usage of doodads!
So I desided to make my own template. However since then I had some ideas, how to make the terrain a project. Oh, and I made this map out of it. It the Afterstorm - my version of what could have happened in the end of the Second War and after it. I may write a small story about Afterstorm, when I will have free time.

 

[AIagremm]

Oh, and it took me a lot of time to figure out a way to make a mix of Draenor and Outland maps, so it would look ok. I will make the Skeletal Coast, mountains near it . I will also make Frostwolf mountains south of Nagrand, make Apexis Fields more realsitic by adding a terrokar tree forest on its top, and terrokar tree forests in the valleys of Blade's Edge.

 

[VeljkoM]

Why didn't Blizzard hired you to make lore?

 

[AIagremm]

xD But seriously, when I thought about whta could happen in the final hours of the Second War, I understood the great... possibilities. For example, the nether dragons never came to be there... they became the Sunrise Dragonflight. They are black dragons who without Deathwings guidance made their own legacy. When the black dragons from Blade's Edge came to make them part of black dragonflight, and have talled them the story of Deathwing, the dragons could not except that. They defeated the embassadors, and became Draenor dragons - Sunrise dragoflight. They found the powers of earth inside them, and the slight touch of nether didnt just disappear - the most powerful dragons could use their nether form. Living in Sunrise Spire(former Deathwings Lair) they help good races of Alliance, redeemed orcs, and the draenei. They are at war with Blackwing(Deatwings dragons)and try to make black dragons of Twisted Ridge to join them, as well as Black dragonflight does.

 

[VeljkoM]

I think that Deathwing wouldn't let his children to grow up like that. Black dragons are by nature wile and evil so they would be more like mindless beasts of destruction.

 

[AIagremm]

However Nether dragons, thought mostly confused and weak minded, are trying to find their own path without Deatwings legacy and history. They dont care for their father, they want to be themselves. And I think they have more chances in normal Draenor. Plus in Draenor there is no way they can be afflicated by the Old Gods, who corrupted their dragonflight.

 

[VeljkoM]

It is genetic. Nether dragons were drastically changed by nether energies. Also if dreanor never exploded maybe Deathwing wouldn't leave it?

 

[AIagremm]

He left it right after his defeat, before Nerzhuls portals were opened.

 

[AIagremm]

And genetics ar shown to mean almost nothing in Warcraft. Son of a diabolic tiran, can become the greatest hero, and a son of a wise leader can become the most feared and hated creature in the world, destroying his homeland, killing his people and father, and losing his soul.

 

[VeljkoM]

Still blood is thicker then water. Black dragons would be evil like nether dragons are now.
And if you are talking about Arthas remember that he was controlled.

 

[AIagremm]

When he was killing people in Stratholme, and destroying his ships and mercenaries, he wasnt controlled... yet.

 

[VeljkoM]

He saw it as the only way. His intention were good but actions were bad. Stratholm didn't have any hope to be cured in time and Malganis would then have to big army and mercenaries would tell to the humans that it was Arthas who ordered them to sunk ships.

 

[AIagremm]

However, he changed. His father, nor his teacher Uther would do something like this.

 

[VeljkoM]

He still wasn't evil. Also if Uther saw with his own eyes how human are transforming he maybe would do something like that. Only Arthas and his men saw it with their own eyes how people they are protecting are turning against them.

 

[AIagremm]

Who knows... Lordaeron, Uther, Arthas... all is gone... only the lands of Plague remain.

 

[VeljkoM]

And undead and crazy people.
But I forgot what does this have to with Dreanor?

 

[AIagremm]

No idea. But I sure love olemba trees.

 

[AIagremm]

Alliance Expedition! O.O

 

[Fussiler1]

Keepin' wondering where Turalyon and Alleria started the baby-production.

 

[AIagremm]

Keepin' wondering where they are.

 

[VeljkoM]

Dead would be most realistic but it would be boring so have no idea.

 

[AIagremm]

Personally I think that they might have entered one of Nerzhul's portals. This way they either made an Alliance settlement in some world that will be in some future expansion.
Or they might have been killed, and this way the remains of their base and forces would be important...

 

[VeljkoM]

They were task force sent to stop Gul'dan. I doubt that they were fully equipped to make some big out posts. But also considering the time they could also created new nation. We shall see what kind of abomination shall they be. But also we must remember that any of them returned somehow and have formed sons of Lothar faction or something.

 

[Fussiler1]

This might sound extremely.. dumb, but..
Maybe Turalyon chased Ner'zhul, got captured by Kil'jaeden and formed into an Undead Deathknight/Lich?

 

[VeljkoM]

It isn't dumb. It could be possible since many were captured that way.

 

[AIagremm]

Hm... and he was sent to fight Alleria, and destroy her forces!

Kurdran, Khadgar and Danath are still holding their bases in remains of Draenor:
Honor Hold, Allerian Citadel, Wildhammer Citadel, Kirin'Var Village...