Draenor

[AIagremm]

Well travel through twisting nether easily. However the world needs to be either really connected to twisting nether or be prepared for their arrival(for example having ethereal portal. Plus they arrived after the world imploded.
However you do have a point there. Nobody knows if there were any ethereals before. So they can be th traders and mercenaries.

 

[VeljkoM]

They have appeared when Dreanor exploded and twisted nether entered the world as Alagremm said. Also I doubt that they are traders.

 

[AIagremm]

Lets just say that they are desribed just as goblins... only far too technologically greater and easier to travel.

 

[AIagremm]

Oh people, what do you think about that: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/idea-factory-462/warcraft-iii-fall-of-outland-137625/

 

[VeljkoM]

well will you find bird race models?

 

[AIagremm]

Where will I find them?
There are three on hive, plus that race uses birds they call avian and kaliri(look like owls)as flying units. Plus we can request more models from the guy who made them.

 

[VeljkoM]

That will take time. Var is allready working on some models and guy who made 3 arrakoa is probably making them from scratch.

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, I guess he is. and that is the worst part. Lucky for us we dont need ogre unit models(there already are lots of awesome ogre models). However even the awesome skins Friky made are not enough. Or is it?

The bad part with ogres is that they wont have ogre mages.

 

[VeljkoM]

To bad for ogres.

Wait you are going to use brown orcs -.-
Well there goes my attention...

 

[AIagremm]

Yes I am. But there will be an "upgrade" bloodpact. It makes all units green, gives you warlocks and necrolites. You get bigger damage, but lots of minuses.
So the player can either be corrupted, or be pure. Both are good.

Also they will use First War orcish buildings(Mah'har buildings)

 

[VeljkoM]

I don't care about minuses I would rather go with green and red orcs then with orcs with b***n color.

It is just... they were green whole series and now some fanatic in Blizzard says that they were brown. Also all models of important characters are green orcs like Ner;zhul or Durotan or any orc.

 

[AIagremm]

Yes. And in the campaign they will become green.

 

[Fussiler1]

Nah. I think it was because of the 'Red Pox'

 

[AIagremm]

Me too.

 

[AIagremm]

So... I like Draenor! If only it didnt explode

 

[VeljkoM]

Why is it even called dreanor? Draenei are aliens in that world so planet and orcs lived there before them. They should have died out long ago.

 

[AIagremm]

Well Draen- means exile(s) and -or means refuge. And as humans in our world they did not have a name for the wolrd, so they aventually adopted the name.

 

[VeljkoM]

But orcs and the races that actually are from there should call it something else. Or maybe the truth is that Dreanei adopted the name for them selves because they were no longer Erader? Why o why are they alive... everything was great wile they were dead.

 

[AIagremm]

Well, I just think that Shamanistic orcs called the world... World, and then the draenei come and name it with a fancy name... how can they not?

 

[VeljkoM]

Who knows... Maybe also orcs were purple? Or rainbow color? Why not they were originally brown (when i get that guy who came up with this he'll need to check his eyes. If he still has them)

 

[AIagremm]

I actually think thats kinda reasonable(with the corruption and all), however it really messes the lore(like the frostwolves being corrupted anyway and stuff like that)

 

[VeljkoM]

They are green for me and that is that. The brown ones are corrupted. That blast from the portal change them (they were shiting at the time so brown color came from there).

 

[AIagremm]

xD They were taking a mud bath then, and the color didnt go off. Or they went on a beach, and were sunbathing a lot. i heard that Skeletal Coast is a great resort!

 

[VeljkoM]

You when I first heard of arakoa and other races I hated them but now i kinda like the idea. They are actually better fitting then most races.

 

[AIagremm]

I know. I mean that draenei are actually a quite normal race. People usually hate them because of the Naaru-origin constructs(Exodar and stuff). But imagine the draenei without Tempest Keep and Exodar. Quite normal, yes?
And arakka are quite a good race. Especially because they are usually hiding, so they couldnt have been mensioned until recent times, when they have restarted they activities with the summoning of Terokk. Before they were hiding on an unreachable mountain(and in the first war and before it orcs didnt have flying units)

Sporelings are kinda strange however.

 

[VeljkoM]

I only like fallen Draenei from Warcraft 3. They were normal. The draenei from WoW are cowards that only know how to run. And they are goat legged, squid headed, blue skin gypsies from outer space.

 

[AIagremm]

yeah, I think that the goat legs are kinda too much. The tentacles and horns are really ok. Interestingly they look good. But their legs... Cant stand 'em.
Dont know about cowards, I would call them... a little too strategic.

 

[VeljkoM]

They advance but to the opposite side. But they are to much like Protoss. Just remove mouth and now body will tell the difference (then again protoss were also drastically changed since Brood war). They are just to ancient for me.I liked the idea of ancient race but now that they are here to stay I want only to kill them. If I ever play wow I would only kill Draenei players.

 

[AIagremm]

You are evil. But, I need your help people.
What creature could be a flying mount before the First War in Draenor?

 

[VeljkoM]

Can't help you. I never saw anything interesting in Dreanor.

 

[AIagremm]

Too bad. We have a problem with flying units in my project.

 

[VeljkoM]

Put a mud orc on arrakoa and call it a mount.

 

[AIagremm]

Why do you hate them so much?

 

[VeljkoM]

Because I like orcs from Warcraft 2 and to see how Blizzard ruined them is sad...

 

[Misha]

WoW orcs are crazy colored.

 

[VeljkoM]

Just two more colors and we'll have power orc rangers.

 

[AIagremm]

xD You mean blue and (add color name here)?

 

[VeljkoM]

Orcs have lost their honor....

 

[AIagremm]

Thats sad

 

[VeljkoM]

They are just a shadow of their former glory.

 

[StormWarriors2]

huh like the cast of Harry Potter?
SRY JUST HAD TO ADD THAT
But the orcs are a shadow of their former glory, they no longer have the power the great daemon blood and they under the control of gay naga humper.

 

[VeljkoM]

Orcs were best in Warcraft 2 with Ogres, trolls and goblins. And then they didn't need demon blood to kick ass. They are wimps now.

 

[StormWarriors2]

Illidan

 

[StormWarriors2]

oh my mistake i forgot about that XD

 

[AIagremm]

And if he can hump himself he is also a night elf-demon mix humper xD

 

[StormWarriors2]

OK ANYWAY.
Back to disscussion.
Draenor is a cool place way back then. but now it looks...... magical? i cannot discribe it but i think blizzard ran out of ideas so they used the cover from a anime book or something but i like the old draenor so much better. one thing it was the only planet that had natural magic -.-.

 

[AIagremm]

Draenor was awesome. Why did they ever destroy it?
Why did the orcs corrupt so much beautiful places?
Curse demons, it was a f*cking awesome world.

 

[StormWarriors2]

yep agreed. So blizzard and its daemons can go suck a -Deleted by the Inqustion- (the inqustion is not real, signed the inqustion, we are not real, signed the inqusition o sh-- nevermind, signed the inqustion GOD DAMN) well thats best joke i have right now.

 

[AIagremm]

I've done a research, and I found out after observing WoW and WCII maps, that there is a zone in a plce that is now known as Vortex Fields or to be correct much of western Blade's Edge. According to WCII maps there was a lush(two big lakes)land there, presumably partially barren, and with crystals all over it, that I called Apexis Fields.
It is the homeland of Apexis arakkoa, nd may be the reason why blade's edge is so... needly.
It could has also been part of Zangarmarsh, or even just barrens.

 

[StormWarriors2]

huh...