Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[CloudWolf]

In answer to that question For the time being, i want to keep the project small scale whilst I revise for my exams. Once they are all done and dusted, I may apply to get this hosted by The Hive, and recruit a team to help me

That probably wont be for another couple of weeks though And thats "If" the Hive will accept the application

 

[CloudMax]

In answer to that question For the time being, i want to keep the project small scale whilst I revise for my exams. Once they are all done and dusted, I may apply to get this hosted by The Hive, and recruit a team to help me

That probably wont be for another couple of weeks though And thats "If" the Hive will accept the application

I understand. But i can wait
But if you want, i can fix icons for all the heros if you can get the model creators approval.

Btw, i just played trought 1.03 awesome changes =) Knockback makes if feel much better. The new mini boss (Voidwalker) doesnt look so good outside in that terrain to be honest. I like the conversation whit Deckard Cain, first time i got a little confused when he just started to follow, didnt even see that it was him till i clicked on him. It was fun to battle Jeremiah, so many zombies to pawn whit fury ^.^ ( i think he wasnt ingame at 1.02, didnt see it befor ). You should try to change the buff icons, when i get buffed whit, lets say "Stamina" that barbarian has, i can see that i have the "Endurance Aura". You should also try to customise the chest drops a little, but that can be as it is. And when you add the yellow text on the items, put |n|n befor the yellow text in the description box, and you will to a new row like this:
Crown of Might
A crown

This is the yellow text

 

[Paladon]

It´s important that the model´s author permits the submission of the icon, not only the usage.
Please keep this in mind.

 

[modler2]

lol epic 5/5 very well done please continue

 

[CloudWolf]

Argh xD I only just released this and already someone has put it on EpicWar lol

I dont mind people doing that for final versions, but I've seen like a million copies of my test versions on that site, which were never meant to be distributed lol :/

 

[arthas_king]

lol thousant epic war copyes

 

[CloudMax]

Cloudwolf, read my comment above please, i got some info ^^
And yea, your map is like everywhere like in one min.

 

[CloudWolf]

aaah good point I did that for the skill descriptions, but I completely forgot about the items lol

I'll be adding in new items for version 1.04 to improve the gameplay, as after playing it a few times, i realised that theres not enough Epic loot to share Theres also a lack of caster items so I'll be adding smoe of those too

But seriously guys, Thanks for all the input and support ive had so far Its really helped me refine the map to what you see now I really appreciate it so keep your criticism coming lol

 

[arthas_king]

the good thing is that at every ver ur expanding the dungeon at 1,03 it became rly better!Keep up the good work (Are there other NPCs expept Decard cain?)

 

[CloudMax]

Here is some more =)
Change the icon of Mongrol to:
ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNPurpleFelhound.blp
Otherwise you will se spirit wolfs when you select more then one.

At the first gate, you can use Witch Doctor / Wizard to kill the Bloated Creations whit your range attacks whitout getting any damage yourself when the gate is closed.
When you are at the start, if you run to the first gate stright away, and the murlocs appear, the will all be a hugh dot and you will be able to AoE them easily, try to make so they run for the heros insted of a specefic spot.

The bridges at the start of the map, it looks wierd when you cant go across them befor the murlocs appears, add rocks or somthing. that would be much better.

You can destroy those towers doodads (you can see two of them at the start area), kinda anoying when i try to right click on the ground my Witch Doctor / Wizard start to attck the towers insted

And last but not least, i think the ghouls at the start would look better whit the undead ghoul model. if you look at the gameplay video one more time, you will see what i mean.

 

[bounty hunter2]

Nice job with the constant updates. Keep up the good work.

 

[CloudWolf]

ty

for version 1.04 im gonna work on the spell / item descriptions and icons like you suggested in your review It's all starting to come together ^^

 

[wereguy2]

Wow, this gets a lot of comments

 

[Panda_]

ty

for version 1.04 im gonna work on the spell / item descriptions and icons like you suggested in your review It's all starting to come together ^^

Rename the following creatures to(or not):
Satyr --- Khazra
Crawler --- Ghoul
Abomination Boss(forgot his name) --- Thousand Pounder
Abomination(Also forgot his name ¬¬) --- Grotesque
Zombie Cultist --- Dark Summoner
Berserker --- Dark Berserker

Units you forggot:
Dark Vessel ( The one that Morphs to a demonic creature )
Activated Vessel ( Fully Transformed )
Scavenger
Gnarled Walker ( Ent )

And people sorry for my english...
Cloudwolf very interesting map... I just can't make that white abism... i tried to open both programs you said for another guy... World Editor Unlimited and another one... the problem is... I can't open either

 

[Vegavak]

Interesting enough.

 

[The Mechanic]

ty

for version 1.04 im gonna work on the spell / item descriptions and icons like you suggested in your review It's all starting to come together ^^

Nice map by the way Cloudwolf.

Could you consider working on making the creatures slightly weaker/stronger depending on how many players are in game for 1.04?

 

[redmarine]

Similar to the balance functions in KHoK.

 

[Anachron]

Maybe try to make Blizzard to use your map instead of doing D3, so there will be a map loaded and the wc3 archives and you can play it directly from wc3 and/or D3 Map Loader?

 

[CloudWolf]

lol Its a nice thought, but I seriously doubt Blizzard will support a project like this

As for making creeps weaker and stronger. I could create a Map-Wide aura that decreases armour and damage depending on how many players there are

For example:

6 Players: 0% Reduction
5 Players: 10% Reduction
4 Players: 20% Reduction
3 Players: 30% Reduction
2 Players: 40% Reduction
1 Player: 50% Reduction

etc, so if you were to single player it, creeps would be at half their normal, strength. That combined with the extra exp you will receive should make it easier

Im also going to add health drops to some of the bosses because Ive noticed that if all the Witch Doctors (Healers) leave then people die very quickly at the bosses :/


Another Idea ive had is to find some cool unit attachments, and randomly add them to the zombies to make them look more like a mob Rather than clones of eachother

It'll also help me customise some of the default warcraft 3 models a bit

 

[CloudMax]

For example:
6 Players: 0% Reduction
5 Players: 10% Reduction
4 Players: 20% Reduction
3 Players: 30% Reduction
2 Players: 40% Reduction
1 Player: 50% Reduction

Try this:
6p: +10%
5P: +05%
4P: None
3P: -10%
2P: -20%
1P: -30%

Higher then that and the AoE spells will be to strong.
I dont know if my values will be so good either.
What i mean whit the values i made is that i think the units is to weak for 5-6 players, but 4 players is good as it is.
Try this and see if you like it.

Another Idea ive had is to find some cool unit attachments, and randomly add them to the zombies to make them look more like a mob Rather than clones of eachother

I think that some kind of wooden maces and stuff would feet in whit zombies, not sure if that looks good but i dont think that the zombies is smart enogh to get something better then that. Maybe add a green poison effect attachment to them.

Im also going to add health drops to some of the bosses because Ive noticed that if all the Witch Doctors (Healers) leave then people die very quickly at the bosses :/

Make the map-wide buff update when a player leave a game so it doesnt get to hard.
Also, you maybe could make leavers drop [health drop]'s of the same amount as players still in-game.
When a player leave, drop the players items on the ground and share the exp the hero have to all players still in-game.

Change icon of "Hero Soul" to "ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNWisp.blp"

 

[Manoo]

but why create d3 map, then will soon be real d3...

 

[CloudMax]

but why create d3 map, then will soon be real d3...

Why create a warcraft 3 map, starcraft 2 is soon coming.
Why create a World of Warcraft map, it have been real for 4 years.
Why create starcraft 1 map, it have been real for a damn long time.

Dude, that was the dumbest question ive seen for a while.
I dont mean to be anoying but... Does CloudWolf really need a reason? Maybe he like doing this, some people enjoy doing maps. Otherwise they wouldnt make them, right?
Also, this map is one way to get a feeling of what Diablo 3 can be like.

 

[killax]

I love the map so far. Thx for this awesome creation! ^.^

 

[CloudMax]

CloudWolf, you should check out this program: W3Colorpicker v2.4i (& Tooltip Creator) - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Im using it myself sometimes, it makes it easy & fast for you to make tooltips.

 

[Soul-_-Hunter]

echhh why no one wanna share with the map? ;\
i can whate and there are some systems but why no one wanna share map with us? ;\
w/e i still wont to show it to any one...
if you remind msg me plz ok? ;\
i just want to make good map not copy paste... i wont create nothing in your map i promisse ;\

 

[CloudMax]

echhh why no one wanna share with the map? ;\
i can whate and there are some systems but why no one wanna share map with us? ;\
w/e i still wont to show it to any one...
if you remind msg me plz ok? ;\
i just want to make good map not copy paste... i wont create nothing in your map i promisse ;\

Im bad at english myself, but i had hard to read what you just said. Try to rewrite it in your real langue and translate whit google translator?

And if you mean that the map is protected, you just have to ask CloudWolf and he maybe sends a unprotected version to you.

 

[Super-Sheep]

"THIS MAP IS OPEN SOURCE. If you wish to make a mod, feel free to do so. Just remember to reference my name somewhere."

Lies.

 

[Eccho]

but why create d3 map, then will soon be real d3...

Why do you use or implement ideas from another game? Because it is cool and gives "originality" to the map.

 

[CloudMax]

Why do you use or implement ideas from another game? Because it is cool and gives "originality" to the map.

That is also a good reason
But after all, he doesnt even need a reason. ^^

 

[CloudWolf]

"THIS MAP IS OPEN SOURCE. If you wish to make a mod, feel free to do so. Just remember to reference my name somewhere."

Lies.

lol I need to update that it is open-source, i just want ppl to request it first to let me know what theyre gonna do with it

I need to update the title ^^

 

[CloudMax]

- Now Protected (PM me if you wish to make a mod)

If im not totally wrong, it doesn't count as a lie becouse you did also say that they have to PM first.

 

[CloudWolf]

lol! You should be my official lawyer

 

[CloudMax]

lol! You should be my official lawyer

Hehe, I just like to help you.
I never seen myself as a lawyer befor, lol. But when i think of it..
Anyway, i posted some stuff on page 12, You should read it

Im now LTGH, The Lawyer.

 

[Super-Sheep]

pfffff ..

Would have just wanted to look the map with World Editor. I wont take over the bnet with it.

 

[CloudMax]

pfffff ..

Would have just wanted to look the map with World Editor. I wont take over the bnet with it.

It is protected becouse he dont want everyone to be able to just ripp the stuff, everyone doesnt just look at it, some people also ripp/edit it and say that they did it.

 

[CloudWolf]

Once I get some FTP Softwate sorted, Ill make a 1 page website with the mod versions for download if you like To save me having to email it to everyone ^^

 

[CloudMax]

Once I get some FTP Softwate sorted, Ill make a 1 page website with the mod versions for download if you like To save me having to email it to everyone ^^

That would be awesome if you did.
Cus i want the unprotected map to try some stuff.

Some info:
I just soloed the Skeleton King whit barbarian. When you use the war stomp, the boss can get knocked back so he appears behind the statues in the corners, that kinda anoying when you cant see the unit your fighting. Also, you should make so that the boss drop somthing. Make decard cain summon you away insted of just appear at a new area, that would be cool.

Fury Post's DISBTN is not working. You should fix that.

I think that the health drops appears a little to often. i can already to easy solo the start.

Other:
When your going to make a team ( if your going to make a team ) i would be happy to join you, just message me on my profil or PM me.
Im already helping you (as you maybe figured out), but it would be nice to be a part of the project. Now im just imagining how stuff can be and such.

 

[redmarine]

Ehm, testing, aq anak indonesia sehat selalu

Stop there buddy! Don't speak foreign languages in our hive.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Stop there buddy! Don't speak foreign languages in our hive.

Yeah, and might you remove these Eye-Cancer causing kiddi-animated-graphics?
Boy, I dunno why that stuff isn't forbidden on this forum because it's just annyoing and disctracs from reading, a lot!

BTT:
I agree that you should add the correct names to the creeps. Doesn't take much time and increases the Diablo3-ish feeling ;P
And one thing I wonder about, why did you turn the shockwave model to the water wave? I mean that one does really neither fits the barbarian nor the GP-Trailer.

 

[CloudWolf]

I agree that you should add the correct names to the creeps. Doesn't take much time and increases the Diablo3-ish feeling ;P
And one thing I wonder about, why did you turn the shockwave model to the water wave? I mean that one does really neither fits the barbarian nor the GP-Trailer.

I was trying to find a blue shockwave effect, but havent been succesfull as of yet xD You see, the warrior also has a shockwave spell, and I just wanted to vary them slightly

Soon as I find a better SFX model, ill change it lol

and yea! I'm working on the creep names for version 1.04

 

[Bioautomaton]

I rarely comment on here, but I have to say, you've done a -fantastic- job with this. The terraining is top-notch and you've done a great job of setting the atmosphere for the map through use of lighting and effects. That was also one of the more interesting uses I've seen for the cathedral doodad. Tyrael's model is fantastic, as well.

The boss fights seemed a little static, though. I would recommend fleshing out their behavior a little. Additionally, I would highly recommend implementing some sort of inventory system.

That aside, this is easily the best map I've played for WC3 in a long time, even if it is just a beta.

 

[CloudMax]

When will 1.04 be released? =D
This is a quote of all the posts i made ( that contains good info )

as far as rage is concerned, It would be rather difficult to code properly. However! I suppose I could make his mana regen 0, and create a trigger that adds say 20 mana every time he attacks? Would that work ok?

Here is my idea about rage: Set mana regen to -5. Add 20 Mana every attack. And set max mana to 0.

Hey again

An attribute system hey? What exactly is that? lol Anything like in TGS? where a hero can have any ability they wish?

An attribute system is one there you get a several attribute points every level. Then you can choose between Str, Agi, Int. (Diablo: Str, Dexterity, Vitality, Energy). Also, items will require a special amount in every stat, tex: Sigon's Guard
Tower Shield
Defense: 24
Change to Block: 69%
Durability 60 of 60
Required strength: 75
Required level: 6
1 to all skills
20% increased chance of blocking

Hope any of this information helped you. ^^


I understand. But i can wait
But if you want, i can fix icons for all the heros if you can get the model creators approval.

Btw, i just played trought 1.03 awesome changes =) Knockback makes if feel much better. The new mini boss (Voidwalker) doesnt look so good outside in that terrain to be honest. I like the conversation whit Deckard Cain, first time i got a little confused when he just started to follow, didnt even see that it was him till i clicked on him. It was fun to battle Jeremiah, so many zombies to pawn whit fury ^.^ ( i think he wasnt ingame at 1.02, didnt see it befor ). You should try to change the buff icons, when i get buffed whit, lets say "Stamina" that barbarian has, i can see that i have the "Endurance Aura". You should also try to customise the chest drops a little, but that can be as it is.

Here is some more =)
Change the icon of Mongrol to:
ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNPurpleFelhound.blp
Otherwise you will se spirit wolfs when you select more then one.

At the first gate, you can use Witch Doctor / Wizard to kill the Bloated Creations whit your range attacks whitout getting any damage yourself when the gate is closed.
When you are at the start, if you run to the first gate stright away, and the murlocs appear, the will all be a hugh dot and you will be able to AoE them easily, try to make so they run for the heros insted of a specefic spot.

The bridges at the start of the map, it looks wierd when you cant go across them befor the murlocs appears, add rocks or somthing. that would be much better.

You can destroy those towers doodads (you can see two of them at the start area), kinda anoying when i try to right click on the ground my Witch Doctor / Wizard start to attck the towers insted

And last but not least, i think the ghouls at the start would look better whit the undead ghoul model. if you look at the gameplay video one more time, you will see what i mean.

Try this:
6p: +10%
5P: +05%
4P: None
3P: -10%
2P: -20%
1P: -30%

Higher then that and the AoE spells will be to strong.
I dont know if my values will be so good either.
What i mean whit the values i made is that i think the units is to weak for 5-6 players, but 4 players is good as it is.
Try this and see if you like it.

Originally Posted by CloudWolf
Another Idea ive had is to find some cool unit attachments, and randomly add them to the zombies to make them look more like a mob Rather than clones of eachother

I think that some kind of wooden maces and stuff would feet in whit zombies, not sure if that looks good but i dont think that the zombies is smart enogh to get something better then that. Maybe add a green poison effect attachment to them.

Originally Posted by CloudWolf
Im also going to add health drops to some of the bosses because Ive noticed that if all the Witch Doctors (Healers) leave then people die very quickly at the bosses :/

Make the map-wide buff update when a player leave a game so it doesnt get to hard.
Also, you maybe could make leavers drop [health drop]'s of the same amount as players still in-game.
When a player leave, drop the players items on the ground and share the exp the hero have to all players still in-game.

Change icon of "Hero Soul" to "ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNWisp.blp"

CloudWolf, you should check out this program: W3Colorpicker v2.4i (& Tooltip Creator) - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
Im using it myself sometimes, it makes it easy & fast for you to make tooltips.

I just soloed the Skeleton King whit barbarian. When you use the war stomp, the boss can get knocked back so he appears behind the statues in the corners, that kinda anoying when you cant see the unit your fighting. Also, you should make so that the boss drop somthing. Make decard cain summon you away insted of just appear at a new area, that would be cool.

Fury Post's DISBTN is not working. You should fix that.

I think that the health drops appears a little to often. i can already to easy solo the start.

 

[Deathager]

Great.. ! Thanks a lot mate

 

[Jay the Editor]

A very great map!!! Nice and Perfect.
If this map have AI, it will be much more greater.

Hope the next version will be much more perfect.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

I was trying to find a blue shockwave effect, but havent been succesfull as of yet xD You see, the warrior also has a shockwave spell, and I just wanted to vary them slightly

Soon as I find a better SFX model, ill change it lol

There's the advantage of JASS, once you got used to it creating moving missiles via triggers is quite easy and... you can play with every effect you might think about ^.^
Wait 'til you see my shockwave version!
I really recommend to learn JASS, since your terraining is very good already. Because without JASS your triggers are less effective, customizable, structured etc. pp.
Yet it took me ages to learn it... thus I understand if you don't wanna take that much time , although I really recommend it^^

 

[CloudMax]

There's the advantage of JASS, once you got used to it creating moving missiles via triggers is quite easy and... you can play with every effect you might think about ^.^
Wait 'til you see my shockwave version!
I really recommend to learn JASS, since your terraining is very good already. Because without JASS your triggers are less effective, customizable, structured etc. pp.
Yet it took me ages to learn it... thus I understand if you don't wanna take that much time , also I really recommend it^^

JASS is a really good way to improve maps, i think we all know that.
But if im not remembering wrong, i dont think that CloudWolf got any time to learn JASS since he befor told us that he dont want to make this a big project yet becouse of School and such. ( lets hope i remember right )

Also, if he makes this to a big Project, i think a JASSer would like to help him whit the map. A Project Leader barely got any time to learn JASS.

 

[CloudWolf]

aaaah school I wish xD Im in year 2 of univeristy and its hardcore :S

 

[CloudMax]

aaaah school I wish xD Im in year 2 of univeristy and its hardcore :S

School/university same thing. you study in both of them x)
I want to start in university, but i have one and a half year left in school. Then i can start learning JASS, C++, Webdesigh and such.

Read my post on page 13, i quoted everything (informating) i posted in this thread ( or what i should call it ).

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Why don't you start with JASS now? It will help you to understand C++ a lot easier afterwards. Vice versa as well for sure, but if you would like to mod in Wc3 now..

 

[CloudMax]

Why don't you start with JASS now? It will help you to understand C++ a lot easier afterwards. Vice versa as well for sure, but if you would like to mod in Wc3 now..

Damn you.. only becouse you said that im sitting whit a JASS tutorial right now...