Diablo 3 - Monk for WC3 - WIP

[Taylor Mouse]

very good. I'm proud to see that you are working full now instead of optimizing. Well keep up the good job.

also, the forelegs and feet look a bit cartoony/plastic compared to the rest of the body.

thnx

T.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

since ppl already pointed out that he looks alot like the Orc Blade Dancer or whatever he is called, I will take a close look myself, and make the "lower poly" model more like that.

But I will defently finish this one first

T.

 

[CloudMax]

Its the Blade Master
And i hope you will make the low poly model more "wc3ish".

 

[bboy-tiger-]

Lol wut. This is a warcraft 3 model based of a diablo 3 character.
It is gonna be used in wc3 so it have to look like a wc3 model most of the times otherwise it wont fit in with the rest.

I mean; the Monk is a Diablo character... was replying to guy above me.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

indeed, I'll try to base my model on that of the Blade Master



T.

 

[Thyrael]

What resolution did you use for the texture? Cause the details are very nice. 512x512 or even 1024x1024?

 

[HappyTauren]

I believe it is 512²

 

[Myth_Zero]

If you made it look like Wc3 some people would call it crap

 

[BlinkBoy]

how many triangles does it have? if it's less than 1,100 tris, then it's fine leave it that way. No need to make him look like those shitty wc3 models.

 

[CloudMax]

how many triangles does it have? if it's less than 1,100 tris, then it's fine leave it that way. No need to make him look like those shitty wc3 models.

But maybe it would be nice to be able to choose.
Maybe you want the model to fit in with the rest?

 

[BlinkBoy]

But maybe it would be nice to be able to choose.
Maybe you want the model to fit in with the rest?

look at jigrael models they are over 1000 tris and they are the most fitting models this community has to offer.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

What resolution did you use for the texture? Cause the details are very nice. 512x512 or even 1024x1024?

I don't texture like that, I cut up the model and texture them piece by piece, so for the moment the model's texture is about 7 or 8 different textures, and I believe the smallest one is about 128x128, that is for the balls around his neck, so in total I believe it could be something like 2048x2048

I still need to reduce it to 256x256 for the model and 64x128 ( or so ) for the weapon

how many triangles does it have? if it's less than 1,100 tris, then it's fine leave it that way. No need to make him look like those shitty wc3 models.

Without the weapon it is about 800 polys, so that will be ok then I guess


T.

 

[Thyrael]

Ok, cause I use 512x512 texture for my models and simple got shocked about the details in your skin ^^ Too sad, that there will be quality loss by reducing the texture from 2048² to 256². Good luck

 

[Taylor Mouse]

The detail loss, yes, but for the portrait, I will use a different texture so you do not notice too much detail loss... I hope

T.

 

[CloudMax]

The detail loss, yes, but for the portrait, I will use a different texture so you do not notice too much detail loss... I hope

T.

Cant you just use the texture from the portrait on the normal unit aswell then?

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Cant you just use the texture from the portrait on the normal unit aswell then?

Yeah, but that would mean that the normal unit will have 2 x 256*256 textures or 1x 256x512, isn't that abit too much ?

T.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Update Weapon

The weapon

T.

 

[Thyrael]

512² ist around 300 kb. For a really nice and important model that amount of data isn't that much.

 

[HappyTauren]

You're forgetting model and animations, which will take around 200kb. 500kb model really isn't useful.

 

[Thyrael]

If its a hero or maincharacter 500kb is absolutly ok.

 

[redmarine]

Considering that we got extra 4 MB things should be fine.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

4 Meg for a finished textured included model ?

Is that what I'm reading ?

Then I think the texture can be bigger then 256x256

T.

 

[BlinkBoy]

4 Meg for a finished textured included model ?

Is that what I'm reading ?

Then I think the texture can be bigger then 256x256

T.

nah just keep the texture 256*256 and make sure it be exported by art tools, that way it will compress pretty well.

 

[Deolrin]

Taylor, I think that what redmarine meant is that the max B-net map-filesize was increased by 4MB, thus it is 8MB. But quite obviously, you should try and keep the filesize as low as possible.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Taylor, I think that what redmarine meant is that the max B-net map-filesize was increased by 4MB, thus it is 8MB. But quite obviously, you should try and keep the filesize as low as possible.

Ah, ok, my bad, so I'll try to keep it a nice 256 x256 and I'll use Art Tools so that would be Ok

Thnx
T.

 

[bboy-tiger-]

MAKE THE WEAPON AS ATTACHMENT.

I seen that few people wants this model without weapon. So its same with attachment. And for people who wants him without weapons will work as well.

 

[dansaDisco]

Yeah, Please make the model and the weapon separate models, that will increase the usability alot, because then we can make our own weapons if we wish too

 

[CloudMax]

512²... Cant you upload a high ress texture aswell? =D
Would be awesome if you could do that.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

So how do I make this as an attachment weapon ?

Any good Tuts ?
T.

 

[chilla_killa]

Just place the handle to the middle (where these XYZ crosses are).
Thats where it will be holded by left hand or so.
It's nothing special.
You know how to atach weapons to units?

 

[Tauer]

Awesomeness.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Just place the handle to the middle (where these XYZ crosses are).
Thats where it will be holded by left hand or so.
It's nothing special.
You know how to atach weapons to units?

eeeuuh nope anywhere a good tutorial ?

T.

 

[chilla_killa]

Sure:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...o-attach-a-model-or-an-effect-to-a-unit-7314/

 

[CloudMax]

eeeuuh nope anywhere a good tutorial ?

T.

You use dummy abilitys with attachments attached to them to add attachments to units. Its like adding orbs with an orb item for example, but insted you choose to put the attachment in "hand, left" or "hand, right" etc.
And use the weapon model as attachment insted of an orb effect.

If you still need more help read this:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...pon-attachments-with-particle-emitters-65525/
Read this part: Equiping your Weapon

 

[BlinkBoy]

So how do I make this as an attachment weapon ?

Any good Tuts ?
T.

nah, just make the weapon stand alone in the model and animate it with link constraints, then set the weapon to be an attachment point and export the model, afterwards just readd the weapon in WE.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Ok, thanks guys
if I don't succeed ,I'll ask again when I've done all the rest

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Final Texture

Here is the final static model and texture with weapon

Monk model :

• Polys : 792
• Texture : 1 * 256x256

Weapon model :

• Polys : 120
• Texture : 1 * 128x64

Model:

Textures:

Comments plz.

If I post the weapon, can someone test it if it would work as an attachment weapon ?

T.

 

[syltman]

Overkill of awesomeness

 

[CloudMax]

It is more then awesome, it is epic!!!
The only thing im worried about is he's skin, i mean not the texture, but the actual monks skin. It looks wierd somehow.

 

[Deolrin]

Taylor, I bet your model doesn't yet have attachment points. Here's a nice tutorial on how to add those.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

... he's skin, i mean not the texture, but the actual monks skin. It looks wierd somehow.

Can you elaborate on that some more ? Cause i don't seem to understand this, sorry, and i would like to make it look awesome for, you know , most of us

T.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Taylor, I bet your model doesn't yet have attachment points. Here's a nice tutorial on how to add those.

You got me there

does anyone know how to do this in the Art Tools ( haven't checked myself yet though )

T.

 

[Deolrin]

I really see no point, as in Magos model editor it will be a lot faster and easier.

 

[dansaDisco]

I'm not sure if you can do that in Art Tools, I suggest you place "empty" joints where you want attachments, and then you just use the values and make your attachments in magos.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Ok, Magos it is then, thnx guys

T.

 

[CloudMax]

The attachment.
I think that the monks skin looks kind of... unrealistic, it looks somehow wierd if you compare with the skin on he's head.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

The attachment.
I think that the monks skin looks kind of... unrealistic, it looks somehow wierd if you compare with the skin on he's head.

mm.. ok, since I'm not a guru in texturing...

so.. what do you suggest ( you can do a paint over on the model or texture if you like )

T.

 

[CloudMax]

Im not a guru texturer so i cant really help with that myself.
I just thinks that he's body skin looks odd :s

 

[BlinkBoy]

You should read the Art Tools documentation sometimes.

How to add attachment points in Art Tools:

1º Create a simple box or point.

2º Name the point/box the name of the attachment you want. afterwards, add the tag "Ref" at the end of the name. Examples: "Overhead Ref", "Weapon Ref", "Hand Right Ref"

3º Go to Art Tool's user properties tab and roll down to object properties, change it from Mesh object to attachment object.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

I just found out in the art tools docs lol

thnx BlinkBoy

T.