Diablo 3 - Monk for WC3 - WIP

[AKAIMAX]

First time I saw it, the model looked good but then he started looking like a child. The monk looks like a child version to me. And he doesn't seem buffed enough. Thats just my opinion. I don't know if its like that ingame.

 

[CloudMax]

First time I saw it, the model looked good but then he started looking like a child. The monk looks like a child version to me. And he doesn't seem buffed enough. Thats just my opinion. I don't know if its like that ingame.

Does this:

Look like a child to you? Did you even look at the face? heh.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Very muscled, beardy, rimpled child


Busy with the animations... soon some samples.


T.

 

[CloudMax]

Very muscled, beardy, rimpled child


Busy with the animations... soon some samples.


T.

Awesome². Cant wait =D
I hope you make animations for the abilities he have in diablo 3.
That would be awesome. Would look cooler that way

 

[FrIkY]

It would be mega awesome if you make the Barbarian, Wizard and Witch Doctor, then all of them would have 1 style, and if Diablo III warcraft team would use all of those models in their map... the map would then be... divine!

 

[dansaDisco]

It would be mega awesome if you make the Barbarian, Wizard and Witch Doctor, then all of them would have 1 style, and if Diablo III warcraft team would use all of those models in their map... the map would then be... divine!

Well, if this model is finished and looks good, you can expect it in the next version

 

[Sheephunter]

Dude, When will it be in the diablo3 Warcraft map?

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Awesome². Cant wait =D
I hope you make animations for the abilities he have in diablo 3.
That would be awesome. Would look cooler that way

I got Run, Stand-1, Stand-2 ( based on the in movie stand ) and attack-1 ( also based on the movie first attack with the stick )

Most of the animations will be in function of his abilities found on the official blizzard site, not sure if I'll be doing all of them though...

I'm not that good at animating, so it takes some time

T.

 

[CloudMax]

I got Run, Stand-1, Stand-2 ( based on the in movie stand ) and attack-1 ( also based on the movie first attack with the stick )

Most of the animations will be in function of his abilities found on the official blizzard site, not sure if I'll be doing all of them though...

I'm not that good at animating, so it takes some time

T.

Hehe, whatever you say =D
You also said that your not a skinning guru, but to me your good enough, and im sure its the same with the animations

Dude, When will it be in the diablo3 Warcraft map?

Wait a few months and you will get your answer.
No, just kidding, i dont know when it will be added... if it will be added.. And you will understand why if you read our forums.
We are planning to start over with a new diablo 3 map, an ORPG map. With more content, quests, options on where you want to go, a main city with way points, vendors, dungeons, leveling areas, new systems, and much much more.. So we might not even keep working on the old map.
Or maybe we will... I have no idea. I guess we will make him since if we makes him for the ORPG, we can just simply add him to the old map aswell

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Hmm this is really great!
However I dunno whether I'm gonna implant him into my map. Unfortunately the Monks skills are most likely impossible to recreate for Wc3 I'm afraid :/

And doing a Wizard and especially Witch Doctor model as well would be great. Something where you can easily attach weapons on ingame. The current Sorceress (the Blizz Model) for example is horrible for this^^

But all up to you

I'm curious about his animations :O

 

[CloudMax]

Hmm this is really great!
However I dunno whether I'm gonna implant him into my map. Unfortunately the Monks skills are most likely impossible to recreate for Wc3 I'm afraid :/

And doing a Wizard and especially Witch Doctor model as well would be great. Something where you can easily attach weapons on ingame. The current Sorceress (the Blizz Model) for example is horrible for this^^

But all up to you

I'm curious about his animations :O

Thats why we made our own wizard and witch doctor model
They are not as pro as this model though.
And its not impossible to make monks spells, it shouldent be hard at all for someone that is good at making spells & that has experience with triggering.
But now lets go ontopic and only talk about the model

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Here are ( after some struggle and help from BlinkBoy to make the gifs )
some of the animations

Note that I will you use ArtTools, so the fact that the mesh does not have mesh deformations is that Art Tools does not support that, so at tjhe end, don't worry, it will be closed

C&C plz

T.

 

[takakenji]

awesome! though, on the first animation, it looks like he's humping air

 

[Callahan]

Nice anim.
Thought his joint seems disconnected.
And why is the walk gif so fast?

 

[FrIkY]

Yeah, his joints should be connected, I can see holes in his body when he's breathing, attacking and standing.

 

[BlinkBoy]

Yeah, his joints should be connected, I can see holes in his body when he's breathing, attacking and standing.

that's because he's working in 3dsmax 5. The joints will unite once he exports the model.

About the animations:

1º the legs are static in stand-1, they need to be a lil bit, and the pelvis should have some slight movement since the spine is breathing.

2º Stand - 2's start is very fast, it won't blend well in game. Insert like 10 frames using dope sheet and make him raise the staff to his shoulder with less desperation.

3º Walk, the feet don't touch the grown correctly. Also, his right arm looks pretty stiff, it's not very natural, it looks like some robotic arm.

4º Remake Stand Ready. The position is bad, his legs are way too open, his arms are badly positioned, the left arm collapses with the chest and the right arm is way too much in the back side. The animation also doesn't blend correctly.

5º The attack animation looks kinda stiff, it has a good amount of motion, but lacks motion in the pelvis. the feet aren't touching the ground correctly and in general they appear like doing tiny circles in their grounding area. Also, the front leg shouldn't go up and down, it should remain stiff and the foreleg and upperleg should bend according the body's movements. Another thing, the arms are collapsing with each other, this shouldn't happen, you should make sure that the arms keep the same relative position to the staff during the whole animation. As an end note, the animation does not blend. You may have to remake it after remaking Stand Ready.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Don't worry about the speed of the animations, it is because I was experimenting with the timeinterval of the gif frames.
About the blend you mean that the there is a glitch between last and first frame ? -> that is because I exported to images with Max and I only took every 2nd or every 3rd frame, so it could that there is missing a important frame in the gif... don't worry in max it blends fine

About the other stuff, I will deffently spend time on checking them

Thnx for the C&C guys

T.

 

[bboy-tiger-]

Use ass when doing stand animation ?
Breath aniamtions has most impact on ass(pelvis or stomach) and chest, then knees and hips, and head, shoulders, arms.

Tho those animations arent finished. Its great.

 

[madqc]

OMG! dude you haxed the blizzard monk and converted it to WC3!!!!

ontopic: Great Job! this has been the best diablo 3 model but now its the best WARCRAFT 3 model eva!!!

anyway whats the filesize of the model whit anims?

MadQc

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Update Run Animation

1. His back has impact when he drops, and raises when he goes with both feet of the ground
2. his arms are nolonger "robotic"
3. his feet now touch on the ground
4. And his hair blows in the wind



Update Idle animation

1. His knees bend, a little
2. The pelvis ( or hip moves )

Hope this is better

T.

 

[Linaze]

There is some odd white shit around him, looks really bad.


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Just kidding, looks awesome to me.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

That white shit bathers me too ... see if I can fix that

Ok, fixed the white border, it was of the Antialiasing in Max and that is what you get in gif format, so I changed it to smaller black, like a line around it.

C&C plz

T.

 

[dansaDisco]

Is that the stand -1 animation?
because it does not look.. like something you'd all the time when you just stand o_o

The run animation looks awesome though

 

[BlinkBoy]

In Stand - 1, he rotates way too much to left. Also if you want to make idle stand be that way you should rotate to the left afterwards, else you break the harmony to the eye. If you stare at it for a while, it will look incomplete.

About New Walk, arms have improved but they are still robotic in a way, I've also noticed that they accelerate suddenly some times like the arm having the staff make a sudden rotation at the end. The body now recieves the hit of the ground but is still incomplete, during the hit the pelvis should go a bit down and the upperleg should try to bend to resist the hit, just a lil bit.

Also are you using FK or IK?

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Naa, just bones... I tried the IK Solver, but that wasted too much time to get some of the bones in the correct spot, in my opinion

thnx for the comments, I try to get it a little better...

T.

 

[Trilogy]

I say bend the knees a biiiiiit more in the stand anim. Most wc3 models do that.

 

[NhazUl]

I say avoid just that. The model is not Warcraftish at all, it's way more realistic. Warcraft-like animations would look well only if you made him look like a crossbreed between a Blademaster and Arnold Schwarzenegger. We don't want that, right?

 

[CloudMax]

Dont complain, even if it doesnt look like a warcraft model, it can be used.
And maybe he wants it to look realistic, with wc3 anims.

BTW, your signature sucks
its like, are we suppost to say "you are bad at his" insted of just "noob" and like, "Rolling on floor laughing" insted of "ROFL". If you dont like chatspeak, then just ignore it
Chatspeak as you call it is just a faster way to say things.
Its like insted of saying
"Looking for more, we need healers and Damage per second players, we are going to do the black temple on Heroic mode. Whisp me!"
when you simply can say
"LFM, Healer & DPS, BT Heroic. /w me!"

 

[bboy-tiger-]

"4. And his hair blows in the wind " what hair ? He's bald !!! haahahahah

 

[NhazUl]

LTGH, I was saying that the model is good (no, it's not good, it's awesome) and making the animations Warcraft-like will ruin it. It is good as it is, that's my point. Please learn to understand people's posts before replying.

About my signature, if you don't like it - ignore it.

 

[CloudMax]

LTGH, I was saying that the model is good (no, it's not good, it's awesome) and making the animations Warcraft-like will ruin it. It is good as it is, that's my point. Please learn to understand people's posts before replying.

About my signature, if you don't like it - ignore it.

Okey i will ignore your signature, if you ignore people that use leetspeak or chatspeak, since your sig is more stupid then that.

Anyway, i think that the model will look good with warcraft-like animations since otherwise it wont fit in with the map, so my point is that It will look better if you make it warcraftish insted of diabloish, it will stand out to much otherwise- Learn to understand my posts before replying to them.

 

[Trilogy]

Can it you two. Finding a good medium between not cartoony and too cartoony is the best solution here.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Ok guys, please think of a nice place, this should be such a fun place not an insulting one....

ZEN
T.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

...
About New Walk, arms have improved but they are still robotic in a way, I've also noticed that they accelerate suddenly some times like the arm having the staff make a sudden rotation at the end. The body now recieves the hit of the ground but is still incomplete, during the hit the pelvis should go a bit down and the upperleg should try to bend to resist the hit, just a lil bit.

ok..

I think, well I hope, I got it this time

I got rid of the acceleration, no more sudden rotation in the end of the staff, the arms look a little more natural, I bended the upperlegs a bit when the feet hit the ground, and I think the total is more fluent and natural... I said I think




so final comments are still welcome, thnks for the C&C stuff BlinkBoy

T.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

In Stand - 1, he rotates way too much to left. Also if you want to make idle stand be that way you should rotate to the left afterwards, else you break the harmony to the eye. If you stare at it for a while, it will look incomplete.
...

And the stand anim ( sorry for the double post didn't know I was gonna end this one asswell.. )
He doesn't turn to the left anymore too much. Also, I added some more swoong to it, so it is not just like an exercise that he is doing, going up and down, it is cut up in several parts...
and I added a little more bending in the knees

here you go, also some final C&C plz

T.

 

[dansaDisco]

I love the stand now. Though that should be Stand - 2 or something, and Stand-1 should just be him breathing pretty much IMO.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Nope, that would be this one -> Big file so be patient



Update on the Stand - 2 animation

C&C plz

T.

 

[BlinkBoy]

well first: Use the EDIT button, no need to make 3 posts. Plus is against the rules.

Anyways, walk looks fine now. Maybe a front view could help.

About Stand -1. Face should look forward, to front. He also bends too much at rotating to left.

 

[HappyTauren]

stand 1 should be just breathing.

 

[BlinkBoy]

stand 1 should be just breathing.

not really Tauren. There are many ways to make it, plus just making a model breath is boring. I made it in my tutorial because it was intended as the first animation to teach(so it had to be VERY simple), but it doesn't mean you have to do it that way.

 

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Stand 1 should just be him standing there, really. It would look better in cutscenes and make him move less.

At the very worst you can just rename the stand anims after you done.

 

[Anarion]

is he going to have any mele animations?

 

[CloudWolf]

I must admit You may have just created the best warcraft 3 model ever made xD The quality of the model, skin and animations is fantastic!

Only thing I can really point out is the stand-1 seems to contain too much body movement But like WILLTHEALMIGHTY said, it still looks good so keep it! maybe just rename it

All in all though, I can tell this is gonna be a top notch model! I look forward to seeing the final version

 

[Dionesiist]

Don't exaggerate, it might be good, but not that good.

 

[CloudMax]

It is that good.
Seriusly, This model is epic, its not often you see a model with a quality like this one.

 

[Xezko]

Dionesiist is jealous. xD
Epic model, T.

after this, you will need to remake every diablo model because all others will looks horrible compared with this. So, you will have a big work there.

 

[Tyranid]

One of the best animations I've seen for custom WC 3 models.

 

[Taylor Mouse]

Thnx guys
also busy with the 1# model competition, so working both now

T.

 

[dansaDisco]

Oh taylor, I just noticed.. the lower body is not moving at all in the Stand -2 animation, perhaps you should fix that?

 

[Taylor Mouse]

?? what do you mean, it moves, I think ...

T.